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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Airwolf on November 08, 2009, 01:29:35 AM
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Read it and weep everyone. We are on the way to Communisum.
House narrowly passes landmark health care bill
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Nov 8, 12:18 AM (ET)
By DAVID ESPO
WASHINGTON (AP) - In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation Saturday night to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry. Republican opposition was nearly unanimous.
The 220-215 vote cleared the way for the Senate to begin debate on the issue that has come to overshadow all others in Congress.
A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi likened the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later.
"It provides coverage for 96 percent of Americans. It offers everyone, regardless of health or income, the peace of mind that comes from knowing they will have access to affordable health care when they need it," said Rep. John Dingell, the 83-year-old Michigan lawmaker who has introduced national health insurance in every Congress since succeeding his father in 1955.
In the run-up to a final vote, conservatives from the two political parties joined forces to impose tough new restrictions on abortion coverage in insurance policies to be sold to many individuals and small groups. They prevailed on a roll call of 240-194.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091108/D9BR59EO0.html
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I can't even see straight, I'm so pissed over this. And of course, my moonbat Rep voted for this.
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Let's look at Andrew Breitbart's take on this . . .
House Passes PelosiCare
by Publius
Just after 11pm EST, the House of Representatives passed the 2,000+ page Pelosi Health Care bill by a vote of 220-215. 39 Democrats were given the opportunity to vote no, in what will go down in history as the most ’structured’ roll call of all time. (1 GOP member, Rep. Cao from New Orleans voted with the Democrats.) The Senate is unlikely to take up any health care reform legislation this year. With unemployment expected to stay above 10% through at least the early part of next year, it isn’t certain the Senate will ever take it up.
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/07/house-passes-pelosi-care/#more-27190
And, if they do, well, Sen. Tom Coburn is ready for that . . .
Why We Love Sen. Coburn, Reason #325: Dr. No Threatening to Have Bill Read on Senate Floor
by Publius
From Politico:
Sen. Tom Coburn, the Oklahoma Republican who developed a close friendship with President Obama when they served together in the Senate, is threatening to have the entire health care bill read on the Senate floor.
Senior Senate Democratic aides had heard Coburn was considering having potentially thousands of pages read aloud in effort to stall passage. “If he did this it would be even outrageous for a guy who’s become known as Dr. No around here,†one of them told POLITICO.
Coburn’s office confirmed that he is indeed thinking about having the bill read.
“That’s a possibility,†Coburn spokesman John Hart said. “He wants to make sure everyone has a chance to read the bill.â€
Coburn, who has a reputation for using procedural rules to block and delay legislation, has been an outspoken critic of the president’s health care overhaul. He recently told the New York Times: “My mission is to frame this health care debate in terms of the fiscal ruin of this country. … I have instructed my staff to clear my schedule for every minute that bill is on the floor.â€
I quoted the entire post, because the important parts were in the last paragraph. That link is at:
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/06/why-we-love-sen-coburn-reason-325-dr-no-threatening-to-have-bill-read-on-senate-floor/
The Dems really think that destroying this country financially is the way to go, don't they? :whatever: :hammer:
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Thanks for that, Saint.
My brand spanking new moonbat creep Owens also voted for it. Not only that, he voted against the abortion amendment. Hmmm did he have a chance to read the 2000 pages? In a district with at least 45% conservative? OK this is war.
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Read it and weep everyone. We are on the way to Communisum.
On the way to communism?..... hell.....We're almost there.
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ROLL CALL:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/11/08/us/politics/AP-US-House-RollCall-Health-Care.html
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Although I am disappointed by this result, I was expecting it - However, the narrow passage in the house is heartening. It will probably die in the Senate.
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On the way to communism?..... hell.....We're almost there.
Yeah man, almost to communism, I cant leave my country anymore, all books, movies and internet sites as well as the news organizations have been censored. Man this sure sucks its just like red china, we dont even get to vote anymore. oh wait we did VOTE, we voted our representives in and they voted to reform healthcare. Weird, and here I was thinking we were communist this whole time.
:clueless:
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I see we have a new resident asshat....
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Oh goody....
New new chew toy.
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I see we have a new resident asshat....
I see if you have a diffrence of opinion on this site you are labeled an "asshat". it this one of those sites were everyone gets together and strokes eachother's conservative ego's?
Conservative #1 "Did you watch Glenn Beck last night, he said that Obama want's health-care reform because of reperations."
Conservative #2 "That sounds kinda stupid, but Glenn Beck said it, so I guess its true"
Conservative #1 "Of course its true, Glenn is on Fox News and they are always right"
Conservative #2 " Your'e right, I should'nt have questioned it. Conservative Power"
Conservative #1 "Conservative Power brother!!!!!!!!!"
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Yeah man, almost to communism, I cant leave my country anymore, all books, movies and internet sites as well as the news organizations have been censored. Man this sure sucks its just like red china, we dont even get to vote anymore. oh wait we did VOTE, we voted our representives in and they voted to reform healthcare. Weird, and here I was thinking we were communist this whole time.
:clueless:
sure, we voted, and so did they. but the difference is: it's their job to REPRESENT us in congress, not vote however the hell they want. That's why the title is REPRESENTATIVE.
Over 50% of the nation doesn't want this bill, but they chose to shove it down our throats anyway. That's not representation. In fact, with the higher burden that this will place on the average taxpayer (not that you would know, because I doubt you have a job to pay taxes from), this bill is morally tantamount to strongarm robbery.
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sure, we voted, and so did they. but the difference is: it's their job to REPRESENT us in congress, not vote however the hell they want. That's why the title is REPRESENTATIVE.
Over 50% of the nation doesn't want this bill, but they chose to shove it down our throats anyway. That's not representation. In fact, with the higher burden that this will place on the average taxpayer (not that you would know, because I doubt you have a job to pay taxes from), this bill is morally tantamount to strongarm robbery.
Don't confuse the chew toy with actual facts, it makes their head hurt and upsets their stomach
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I see we have a new resident asshat....
I see if you have a diffrence of opinion on this site you are labeled an "asshat". it this one of those sites were everyone gets together and strokes eachother's conservative ego's?
Conservative #1 "Did you watch Glenn Beck last night, he said that Obama want's health-care reform because of reperations."
Conservative #2 "That sounds kinda stupid, but Glenn Beck said it, so I guess its true"
Conservative #1 "Of course its true, Glenn is on Fox News and they are always right"
Conservative #2 " Your'e right, I should'nt have questioned it. Conservative Power"
Conservative #1 "Conservative Power brother!!!!!!!!!"
Get lost you ignorant troll.
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Although I am disappointed by this result, I was expecting it - However, the narrow passage in the house is heartening. It will probably die in the Senate.
And the fact that 39 democrats voted against this bill just demonstrates the strong arm tactics (and possibly threats) from the Pelosi team didn't work on everyone.
There will indeed be a bloodbath in 010. Most districts, with the exception of liberal strongholds, will go R.
I watched Randi Rhodes on the Joy Behar show....she said the only reason McConnell and Christie won over their democrat counterpart is because they were moderates and didn't run on social issues. I didn't follow their campaigns, is any part of this true?
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Yeah man, almost to communism, I cant leave my country anymore, all books, movies and internet sites as well as the news organizations have been censored. Man this sure sucks its just like red china, we dont even get to vote anymore. oh wait we did VOTE, we voted our representives in and they voted to reform healthcare. Weird, and here I was thinking we were communist this whole time.
:clueless:
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–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
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Landslide GOP wins in 2010 -- this bill doesn't take effect until 2014? Plenty of time to undo this disaster if the Senate actually commits political suicide and tries to pass this.
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Landslide GOP wins in 2010 -- this bill doesn't take effect until 2014? Plenty of time to undo this disaster if the Senate actually commits political suicide and tries to pass this.
Uh huh...
When is the last time you ever saw that sort of thing happen?
I can't recall it ever happening.
But I hope you are correct.
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–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
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BillyDontTouchMyNumbSpot isn't worth your attention.
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No, Bill--we have a great variance of opinions here, some even liberal. No, only people who shit in the punchbowl within their first five posts (and congratulations, you managed on your very first one!) are given the time-honored moniker of asshat.
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Uh huh...
When is the last time you ever saw that sort of thing happen?
I can't recall it ever happening.
But I hope you are correct.
http://www.google.com/search?q=congress+overturn+legislation+history&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS332US332&sa=X&tbo=p&tbs=tl:1&num=100&ei=eNn2SvPSCcfi8QammfDzCQ&oi=timeline_navigation_bar&ct=timeline-navbar&cd=3&ved=0CBYQywEoBA
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http://www.google.com/search?q=congress+overturn+legislation+history&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS332US332&sa=X&tbo=p&tbs=tl:1&num=100&ei=eNn2SvPSCcfi8QammfDzCQ&oi=timeline_navigation_bar&ct=timeline-navbar&cd=3&ved=0CBYQywEoBA
Interesting.....
Here's hoping they do it again with this health care crap.
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Well, on the bright side, at least we now know who to throw out of office next year.
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Anyone else catch this from the FNC story:
A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi likened the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later — and Obama issued a statement saying, “I look forward to signing it into law by the end of the year.â€
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care/
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Yeah man, almost to communism, I cant leave my country anymore, all books, movies and internet sites as well as the news organizations have been censored. Man this sure sucks its just like red china, we dont even get to vote anymore. oh wait we did VOTE, we voted our representives in and they voted to reform healthcare. Weird, and here I was thinking we were communist this whole time.
:clueless:
Sniff sniff...
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6679/trollzal.jpg)
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Anyone else catch this from the FNC story:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/house-passes-health-care/
And both programs are either insolvent or soon will be. Yay, Nancy.
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And the fact that 39 democrats voted against this bill just demonstrates the strong arm tactics (and possibly threats) from the Pelosi team didn't work on everyone.
There will indeed be a bloodbath in 010. Most districts, with the exception of liberal strongholds, will go R.
I watched Randi Rhodes on the Joy Behar show....she said the only reason McConnell and Christie won over their democrat counterpart is because they were moderates and didn't run on social issues. I didn't follow their campaigns, is any part of this true?
McConnell won because Deeds was a creep a-hole who openly admitted on tape that he had the most pork in Richmond. People chose McDonnell in spite of the negative campaign against him that dredged up his old college paper that talked about women in a less than enlightened way.
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I wonder when we will sell Alaska to China to get out of debt.
I don't mean that rhetorically.
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So I guess the "teabaggers" meme worked. Democrats felt that they could ignore the majority of Americans who did not want this bill because "they're just teabaggers."
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And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!â€
Solzhenitsyn--The Gulag Archipelago
Molon Labe, ****ers.
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I see we have a new resident asshat....
Did this boob even introduce himself?
Hey noob. There are rules of etiquette on a forum just as in life.
1. Introduce yourself
2. Apologise when you do or say something wrong
3. Fill out the profile section, so that people know who you are
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sure, we voted, and so did they. but the difference is: it's their job to REPRESENT us in congress, not vote however the hell they want. That's why the title is REPRESENTATIVE.
Over 50% of the nation doesn't want this bill, but they chose to shove it down our throats anyway. That's not representation. In fact, with the higher burden that this will place on the average taxpayer (not that you would know, because I doubt you have a job to pay taxes from), this bill is morally tantamount to strongarm robbery.
I think that it's more like 80% that DO NOT want this public health care option ESPECIALLY with the potential for fines and imprisonment. Quite honestly, I would like to see a public referendum on this legislation. It's obvious that our Representatives no longer represent their constituents. IF the US is going to go a further 1½ TRILLION in debt, I THINK that it's citizens really ought to have a say in the matter.
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Our last hope is for this to die in the senate if not kiss the USA that we all knew and loved goodbye.
What galls me is if the DUmmies didn't worship lord O they would realize that this isn't even what they want.
This free pony is being delivered COD and we don't have the option of sending it back.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Our last hope is for this to die in the senate if not kiss the USA that we all knew and loved goodbye.
What galls me is if the DUmmies didn't worship lord O they would realize that this isn't even what they want.
This free pony is being delivered COD and we don't have the option of sending it back.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Just because we've been given a load of horseshit to eat doesn't mean there's a pony in there anywhere.
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I think this is a violation of state's rights. Massachusetts already has universal healthcare. Don't take this I am for this because I am opposed to it.
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I think this is a violation of state's rights. Massachusetts already has universal healthcare. Don't take this I am for this because I am opposed to it.
Worse than that, it is a violation of personal rights.
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Worse than that, it is a violation of personal rights.
Oh yeah that too. Forgot! :doh:
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Worse than that, it is a violation of personal rights.
Only true if you're smart enough to take care of yourself, which we know you, and all but 545 people in DC, cannot. :tongue:
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Only true if you're smart enough to take care of yourself, which we know you, and all but 545 people in DC, cannot. :tongue:
LOL
Bite me.
:lmao:
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Yeah man, almost to communism, I cant leave my country anymore, all books, movies and internet sites as well as the news organizations have been censored. Man this sure sucks its just like red china, we dont even get to vote anymore. oh wait we did VOTE, we voted our representives in and they voted to reform healthcare. Weird, and here I was thinking we were communist this whole time.
:clueless:
Yep, ya asshat! Our Congress Critters have heard from the majority and still vote for this shit! Like you or them give a rusty!
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Well, at least I have a ray of sunshine in my district....
My dimrat rep, who is FOR cap and trade (here in the heart of coal country), was one of the 39 that said NO to government health care....
Go figure.... :mental:
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This whole health care bill goes against the entire Constitution and Sammy Slapnuts is either to stupid to breath air without adult supervision or hes as communist as the asslickers that passed this in the House. The Government has no right to force anyone to get insurance. It is not a power invested to them to do so you stupid widow licking freak. .