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Title: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 07, 2009, 09:43:34 PM
BOHICA


About to happen
Title: Re: Obama Care
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 07, 2009, 09:46:24 PM
And at least one Republican will vote for it making it bi-partisan
Title: Re: Obama Care
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 07, 2009, 10:00:50 PM
They are voting now

Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 07, 2009, 10:11:05 PM
And as predicted onne republican voted for it making it bi-bartisan
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Odin's Hand on November 07, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
They just granted themselves dominion over our bodies.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: bkg on November 07, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
If the senate passes, this economy country will crumble. :(
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Hawkgirl on November 07, 2009, 11:42:22 PM
This country is going to crumble from within.  I hope the 2010 and 12 elections save us.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: bkg on November 07, 2009, 11:43:27 PM
This country is going to crumble from within.   I hope the 2010 and 12 elections save us.

Predicted by man a Russian.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Alpha Mare on November 08, 2009, 12:50:56 AM
Bombard your Senators with calls and emails.  If your Representative voted "YES", let them know it will be reflected at the next election. Tell everyone you know to do the same. Don't wait until 2010, start now and keep it up. 












Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: NHSparky on November 08, 2009, 07:06:01 AM
Bombard your Senators with calls and emails.  If your Representative voted "YES", let them know it will be reflected at the next election. Tell everyone you know to do the same. Don't wait until 2010, start now and keep it up. 

Already done.  But I think I'm already PNG on her e-mail/Christmas card list.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: hutch1983 on November 09, 2009, 06:43:35 PM
So I have to pay for poverty sticken blacks, muslims, illegals to get the same health care as me?  What has this world come to?  We should let them DIE!!!

Ok, If you were about to agree with me - I want you to know that it was a joke.  I think we should take care of our own - men, women, children - regardless of their race, background, or religious preference.  But all I see conservatives saying is how they have to pay for everyone else because "they don't work hard enough."  I suspect most conservatives are arguing to argue.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: DixieBelle on November 09, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
^Stick around. I think you'll find your assumptions about conservatives opposing Obama care are wrong.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: hutch1983 on November 09, 2009, 07:19:31 PM
I hope I am able to stick around - I'd love to hear rational opposition.  I hope the administrators don't throw me off because I have different opinions than some.  The truth is, I value many conservatives opinions.  Problem is - I think their opposition to Health Reform is simply another reason to oppose dems and libs.  The constitution states we have a right to life.  Not "We have a right to life unless you get cancer when laid off or on hard times.  In that case, you have a right to life until the disease kills you - 'cause we're not operating without a valid Blue Cross Blue Sheild Policy."
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: NHSparky on November 09, 2009, 07:21:57 PM
So I have to pay for poverty sticken blacks, muslims, illegals to get the same health care as me?  What has this world come to?  We should let them DIE!!!

Ok, If you were about to agree with me - I want you to know that it was a joke.  I think we should take care of our own - men, women, children - regardless of their race, background, or religious preference.  But all I see conservatives saying is how they have to pay for everyone else because "they don't work hard enough."  I suspect most conservatives are arguing to argue.

Try again, noob.  Look at some of the more insidious details hidden in that 2000 pages of horseshit called a bill.

Stuff like:
--Removing the inflation indexing of income for tax brackets.
--Taxing of medical devices.
--NO TORT REFORM.
--Reduction of medicare/medicaid for the elderly and those who supposedly need it most.
--And much, much more!
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 09, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
I hope I am able to stick around - I'd love to hear rational opposition.  I hope the administrators don't throw me off because I have different opinions than some.  The truth is, I value many conservatives opinions.  Problem is - I think their opposition to Health Reform is simply another reason to oppose dems and libs.  The constitution states we have a right to life.  Not "We have a right to life unless you get cancer when laid off or on hard times.  In that case, you have a right to life until the disease kills you - 'cause we're not operating without a valid Blue Cross Blue Sheild Policy."

Get a clue soon.............PLEASE!

Also if you value others opinions then maybe you should first listen to them instead of using broad brush smears as you seem to have done in every post you made.........have some damn manners
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: NHSparky on November 09, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
I hope I am able to stick around - I'd love to hear rational opposition.  I hope the administrators don't throw me off because I have different opinions than some.  The truth is, I value many conservatives opinions.  Problem is - I think their opposition to Health Reform is simply another reason to oppose dems and libs.  The constitution states we have a right to life.  Not "We have a right to life unless you get cancer when laid off or on hard times.  In that case, you have a right to life until the disease kills you - 'cause we're not operating without a valid Blue Cross Blue Sheild Policy."

You have a right to life--yet the libs are so ****ing adamant about protecting the "right" of a woman to kill her unborn child.

Disconnect?  You betcha!

And you do NOT have a right to the fruits of my labor because you made bad choices.  Your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness only extends so long as it doesn't interfere with my rights.

Oh, and you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.  You better brush up and come correct, or your stay here will be short and painful.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: hutch1983 on November 09, 2009, 07:29:17 PM
Hmmm....  Again sounds like an excerpt from Hannity today.  And yes, I listen to Rush, Hannity, and the very crazy Levin EVERYDAY.

Have the bill in front of you?  Please list the page in which it states cuts will be made in Medicare and Medicaid I would love to review.  The problem with your statement is it lacks sufficient evidence.  Your favorite radio personality simply said it - so you buy it.  I have heard all this before and in the end, it always seems that Rush / Sean misinterpreted something.  Or, chose to interpret it the way they thought would work best for today's spin.

By the way, do any of you guys like O'Reily?  He actually like the bill!  Shocking but true.  At least he is willing to admit when a Dem makes a good move.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 09, 2009, 07:31:13 PM
By the way, do any of you guys like O'Reily?  He actually like the bill!  Shocking but true.  At least he is willing to admit when a Dem makes a good move.

That's because he's as much a dem as a dem
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: hutch1983 on November 09, 2009, 07:32:16 PM
I thought you guys like O'Reily?  He is on Fox afterall
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: NHSparky on November 09, 2009, 07:33:08 PM
I'm putting the troll's lifespan at 25 posts.  Any takers on the over/under?
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: TheSarge on November 09, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
Hmmm....  Again sounds like an excerpt from Hannity today.

If you say so troll.  I work during the times they are on.  So I wouldn't know.


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And yes, I listen to Rush, Hannity, and the very crazy Levin EVERYDAY.

Sure you do.   :whatever:

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Have the bill in front of you?  Please list the page in which it states cuts will be made in Medicare and Medicaid I would love to review.  The problem with your statement is it lacks sufficient evidence.  

Really?

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ObamCare would cut payments to private insurers that contract with the federal government to provide insurance to about 10 million seniors on Medicare through the Medicare Advantage program. The bill also would cut about $200 billion in Medicare payments to hospitals, nursing homes and other providers by adjusting the formulas that the program uses to pay these providers.

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Your favorite radio personality simply said it - so you buy it.  I have heard all this before and in the end, it always seems that Rush / Sean misinterpreted something.  Or, chose to interpret it the way they thought would work best for today's spin.

You've engaged the wrong person on this one troll.  See I actually do research...unlike you and the Libtards in Congress.  

Remind me...which one of your favorite Libtard Congress Critter has read the bill?  Oh yeah that's right...they haven't.

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By the way, do any of you guys like O'Reily?  He actually like the bill!  Shocking but true.  At least he is willing to admit when a Dem makes a good move.

O'Reilley...like you...is a bloviating jack@ss.  No wonder you admire him.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: TheSarge on November 09, 2009, 07:37:39 PM
I thought you guys like O'Reily?  He is on Fox afterall

Again...that's what you get for forming your opinions of Conservatives over at Kos and HuffPo
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 09, 2009, 07:38:04 PM
I thought you guys like O'Reily?  He is on Fox afterall

Who gives a damn what channel he is on.........he's a dumbass
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: Mike220 on November 09, 2009, 08:03:03 PM
I'm putting the troll's lifespan at 25 posts.  Any takers on the over/under?

Over. Maybe 35 posts.
Title: Re: Obama Care Passes
Post by: USA4ME on November 09, 2009, 08:04:58 PM
The constitution states we have a right to life.

That doesn't mean you have the right to healthcare.  In order to live you need food.  Does that mean the gov't should oversee making sure you receive food, or is that your responsibility?

When the Founding Fathers said we have a right to "life," had they meant the gov't should provide for all citizens healthcare they would have enacted national healthcare back in 1789 or shortly thereafter.  Did they?

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