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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 05, 2009, 03:34:29 PM
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Mostly OK but when they decide to piss you off they pull out all the stops.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4133901
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Oh good lord they are debating that the USA is the most violent country in the world. :whatever:
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Electric Monk (219 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Nov-05-09 03:29 PM
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19. How's that argument go again? If only there were other people with guns there
they could have stopped the rampage before it got serious?
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
What an idiot arms are strictly and I do mean strictly controlled on a military installation. It's not like we carried our 16's fully loaded on a regular basis.
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Dear DU, please die. Hugs and kisses, mamacags
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LuvNewcastle (781 posts) Thu Nov-05-09 05:10 PM
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8. Malik Hasan is his name, according to ABC.
They said he was a convert to Islam.
From Ace of Spades:
MSNBC says captured man is an Army major "with an Arabic sounding name".
RT @chucktodd NBC's Pete Williams: US official says early reports are the man in custody is in the military, late 30s, with officer rank.
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The suspected gunman was identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. He was killed and two other suspects have been apprehended, Lt. Robert W. Cone said
from ABC News.
Now...
What is going to happen if the other two turn out to be recent or not so recent Islamic converts.
Remember the attack on the recruiting station?
Remember Fort Dix?
yeah....
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A different thread... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6936290
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:41 PM
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Ft Hood and some speculation so take this with a grain of salt
This could be a terrorist attack...
No, not foreign, but domestic.
The US Military relaxed its recruitment standards quite a bit over the course of the last few years because of a couple of wars you all know about This relaxation meant that recruiters actually allowed Militia members to join and get that first rate military training. Not saying that this was a militia, but you can bet your sweet potatoes that right now somewhere in the bowels of DOD a poor shmuck is taking those files out and started a process called a top down review.
Now if these guys happen to have any ties to the militias... this in my view is indeed the other shoe started to drop... the other shoe I have feared for years now.
Now I will say this, the POSSIBILITY that this is indeed terrorism is not that wild... just that this terrorism is not exactly coming from abroad ok. But I will use the word if and when we do get the confirmation (other shoe dropping)...
Oh and as Frenchie Cat pointed out, this is a year after the election of Obama. This is the first full day of that election...
So there you have it... and no, I suspect as more details emerge that this is not just about a deployment, or PTSD, as horrible as both can and are...
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:59 PM
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28. So you think the US has never ever had internal terrorism?
Does I don't know Oklahoma City ring a bell.
And yes the US Military has allowed Militia AND Gang members to join its ranks in greater numbers. THAT my dear IS A FACT.
This is not political... but speculation based on FACTS... you know those things Right Wingers ALSO hate?
Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:53 PM
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23. It's Also The Day Tea Baggers "Stormed" The Capitol
Just sayin'.
I will go out on a limb and predict these were rightwing anti-Obama nutbags.
Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:55 PM
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25. can we send ALL THESE PEOPLE TO JAIL
RIGHT NOW?? Lord! what is going on!!. if presiden tobama doent' denounce these ppl and continue to ignore them like if they are no problem to society, we are in big doodo!...
that is exactly how hitler took power, being ignored and protected by right wing radio..
Now numerous threads on the island trying to downplay the fact that one of the apprehended has an arabic name. :bird:
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:27 PM
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188. Or a group of soldiers was stealing equipment, somebody caught them, and a firefight ensued.
Or these three people were smuggling drugs. Or other possibilities. One way or another, three guys in military uniforms shooting up an Army base doesn't exactly match the normal profile for other sorts of crimes.
WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:01 PM
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105. Could be some PTSD troops who have seen "V for Vendetta" too many times
Today is Guy Fawkes' Day.. remember, remember the 5th of November.
Perhaps some soldiers who are trying to avenge something???? Just a thought.
Xenotime (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:03 PM
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114. Are they still fighting for Bush?
What a ****ing bunch of idiots...
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Ok you lurking DUchebags...the dead shooter is a convert to Islam from Virginia.
He was pissed about being deployed to Iraq.
That's all I trust myself to say on a DUmp thread right now.
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-05-09 04:38 PM
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216. makes ya wonder if Blend Geck's fans got riled up by his & other rethugs calls of resistance against
our govt, and their calling of Obama a racist/foreign, etc.
Won't be surprised if you get whined at for putting unconfirmed info up like others have. If others don't want to talk about what might be going on, or why, why would anyone be in this thread!
Anyhow, being the 5th of November, and thinking about all the crazed comments from Beck & the teabaggers, this wouldn't surprise me IF it is an act of treason.
:censored:
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lobodons (50 posts) Thu Nov-05-09 05:35 PM
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311. More Blood on Bush's hands.
The blood just keeps flowing. Whether Obama gets the US out or not, all blood is on Bush's hands. It was that bastard Bush who mishandled the war in Afghanistan in the beginning and it was Bush who invaded a sovereign country who posed no threat the the US. Today's blood bath at Ft. Hood is a continuation of Bush's bungling and thirst for blood.
I'm out. these people are ****ing pissin me off too badly
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I can't read anymore either. I seriously want to just beat the ever living shit out of them right now.
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Bring back Pinochet from the dead to deal with the DUmmies in a harsh and brutal manner.
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Bring back Pinochet from the dead to deal with the DUmmies in a harsh and brutal manner.
Can we at least unleash Darth Cheney and Emperor Rove on them?
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Can we at least unleash Darth Cheney and Emperor Rove on them?
I am cool with that.
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Can we at least unleash Darth Cheney and Emperor Rove on them?
I'll work up a message to VRWC HQ.
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-06-09 02:50 AM
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I have a feeling this Ft Hood shooting is a new 9/11, and maybe bigger.
Advertisements [?]I fear our all volunteer army has become an army of sub militias, skin heads, drug cartels, religious nutters, and sleeper taliban cells, and known unknowns.
Anyone else as worried about this as I am? A rogue army......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8735448&mesg_id=8735448
:banghead: <-- not my head, the DUmmies
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All hail Lord Rove...... :bow:
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-06-09 02:50 AM
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I have a feeling this Ft Hood shooting is a new 9/11, and maybe bigger.
Advertisements [?]I fear our all volunteer army has become an army of sub militias, skin heads, drug cartels, religious nutters, and sleeper taliban cells, and known unknowns.
Anyone else as worried about this as I am? A rogue army......
A rogue army of muslims and their dhimmi puppets
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These people are too stupid to live.... :mental:
They don't have enough mental capacity to breathe on their own without having to be reminded.... :hammer:
You could count the entire collective's active brain cells on one hand.... :banghead:
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These people are too stupid to live.... :mental:
They don't have enough mental capacity to breathe on their own without having to be reminded.... :hammer:
You could count the entire collective's active brain cells on one hand finger.... :banghead:
Fixorated... :uhsure:
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My GOD, now I am beginning to understand why Polosi, Reid and crew are pushing so hard for the health care bill...these people are in serious need of psychiatric help, and since they almost all live in their mama's basements, someone else has to pay for it.