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Title: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: thundley4 on November 04, 2009, 01:37:20 PM: (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/11/03/WOMENCRIMES.jpg)
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BEDFORD, Pa. â€” In exchange for jail time, a woman and her adult daughter have agreed to stand outside a courthouse holding signs saying they stole a gift card from a 9-year-old girl on her birthday.

Fifty-six-year-old Evelyn Border and 35-year-old Tina Griekspoor stood outside the court for 4 1/2 hours Tuesday. They held signs that read: â€œI stole from a 9-year-old girl on her birthday! Donâ€™t steal or this could happen to you!â€

Because the women agreed to hold the signs, Bedford County District Attorney Bill Higgins says heâ€™ll ask for probation instead of jail when they plead guilty to the theft.
Pennsylvania (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/11/03/11621421-ap.html)

I don't see much difference here than what a captured flag burner got some months ago.
Title: Re: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 01:56:04 PM: Quote from: thundley4 on November 04, 2009, 01:37:20 PM
(http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/11/03/WOMENCRIMES.jpg) Pennsylvania (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/11/03/11621421-ap.html)

I don't see much difference here than what a captured flag burner got some months ago.
It wasn't a judge that snatched-up the flag burner.

I think what these people did was reprehensible but the judge was absolutely wrong to step outside the law. We have legislators to sort out what a legal penalty should be and they are accountable to us, judges are not.

I oppose judicial activism of all sorts. If we don't stop judges from writing their own law we will pay dearly with our liberties.
Title: Re: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: thundley4 on November 04, 2009, 02:15:48 PM: It is sort of being an activist judge, but if the prosecutor had suggested it as part of plea deal, it would have been better.

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Because the women agreed to hold the signs, Bedford County District Attorney Bill Higgins says heâ€™ll ask for probation instead of jail when they plead guilty to the theft.
Title: Re: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 02:47:22 PM: Quote from: thundley4 on November 04, 2009, 02:15:48 PM
It is sort of being an activist judge, but if the prosecutor had suggested it as part of plea deal, it would have been better.

Same argument as before only this time its the executive branch overstepping instead of the judicial.

Executive activism gives us things like Obama's czars.
Title: Re: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: thundley4 on November 04, 2009, 02:49:25 PM: Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Same argument as before only this time its the executive branch overstepping instead of the judicial.

Executive activism gives us things like Obama's czars.

Prosecutors offer all kinds of plea deals all the time. Granted in this case it would involve a punishment not outlined in the law.
Title: Re: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 02:52:00 PM: Quote from: thundley4 on November 04, 2009, 02:49:25 PM
Prosecutors offer all kinds of plea deals all the time. Granted in this case it would involve a punishment not outlined in the law.
Pleas deals I can understand and those are legally accounted for but this creative sentencing crap is going to get ugly some day.

Another point: when the **** do criminals, duly convicted, get to pick their penalties? If these assbags were possessed of sound judgment they wouldn't have ripped-off a little girl in the first place but now we're going to let THEM mitigate their own penalties based solely on what THEY prefer?

**** that shit, that just doubles the outrage for me.
Title: Re: Judge orders women to hold signs admitting crime
Post by: Chris_ on November 04, 2009, 04:45:47 PM: I was always taught you do the crime you do the time. Looks like they were given what they deserved :uhsure: