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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Thor on November 04, 2009, 01:09:25 PM
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City proposes storm water fee
Under a proposed storm water utility fee the city is looking to impose, owners of single-family homes would be charged an annual fee of $43.84 for the storm water that runs off their properties, and businesses would be charged nearly $250 per acre
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UnF'n believable!!! How in the hell can an entity TAX someone because rain water drains off of their property and legally justify this?!?!?!?!? Is snow runoff going to be taxed, too??
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https://secure.forumcomm.com/hastings/
UnF'n believable!!! How in the hell can an entity TAX someone because rain water drains off of their property and legally justify this?!?!?!?!? Is snow runoff going to be taxed, too??
Not much difference than some country wanting to tax people for their wells.
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The ol' Colorado Shuffle:
It ain't a tax, it's a fee.
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The ol' Colorado Shuffle:
It ain't a tax, it's a fee.
Don't forget the other side of that coin:
There are cities here that will fine you if you build cisterns on your property to collect storm water or gresy water, because according to them , you're only leasing the license to one use of that water (grey water) or, you don't own the rights to that water (storm water). :mental:
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Stormwater fees (aka Impervious Surface fees) have been around for years. At its core it's nothing more than a tax on human activity.
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Don't forget the other side of that coin:
There are cities here that will fine you if you build cisterns on your property to collect storm water or gresy water, because according to them , you're only leasing the license to one use of that water (grey water) or, you don't own the rights to that water (storm water). :mental:
In a porn film it's called getting spit-roasted.
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Don't forget the other side of that coin:
There are cities here that will fine you if you build cisterns on your property to collect storm water or gresy water, because according to them , you're only leasing the license to one use of that water (grey water) or, you don't own the rights to that water (storm water). :mental:
Yup. And here's the most asinine thing about these fees:
Municipalities and counties generally require developers to provide stormwater detention facilities that ensure post-development site run-off be equal to or less than pre-development site run-off values. These facilities take the form of detention and retention ponds or underground storage and release units. This comes at great cost to the developer, both in loss of land use and actual expense. "But hey," says the local government, "they can afford it, they're making a ton of money." That same local government then turns around and says to each homeowner, "You have 1300 sq ft of gravel driveway, 250 sq ft of concrete/brick walkway, and 1800 sq ft of asphalt roofing. You owe us X$/sq ft of that impervious surface, per year." The reasoning is that the human activity of developing the lot increases the stormwater run-off, which is detrimental to the environment. But it isn't! The developer has already been required to handle that additional run-off! Even beyond that, said local government does nothing with that money to mitigate any of the environmental damage they're basing their reasoning on. They just use it to fund their operations. ::)
It's bullshit, to put it simply.