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Title: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 03, 2009, 11:06:05 AM
There are no boundaries to Obama's radicalism.  He is now trying to elevate Judge David Hamilton to the 7th circuit court of appeals.  Hamilton should have been impeached off the bench years ago.

Hamilton is such an in-your-face leftist that he openly advocates the right of judges to "amend" the constitution...calls it, "writing footnotes to the constitution."

Further, he is an unabashed christian-basher.  While he is nortorious for extreme hostility toward religious expression(aka christianity), he has no problem with prayers that mention "Allah" by name.

Keep your powder dry...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/03/jesus-no-but-yes-to-allah/
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: BadCat on November 03, 2009, 11:09:32 AM
Nothing I didn't expect from Obumble.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 03, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
An unabashed basher?

That's quite the rhetorical flourish.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Chris_ on November 03, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
Did anyone expect anything less from the Zero?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 03, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
An unabashed basher?

That's quite the rhetorical flourish.

Actually it was "unabashed CHRISTIAN-basher"...no rhetoric...just a fact. 
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 03, 2009, 12:09:32 PM
Actually it was "unabashed CHRISTIAN-basher"...no rhetoric...just a fact. 

sounds like hearsay to me.  :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 03, 2009, 12:29:52 PM
sounds like hearsay to me.  :rotf: :rotf:

That you don't know the difference between hearsay and documented fact with quotes & cites is to be expected as you have been demonstrating for days now.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 03, 2009, 12:45:52 PM
That you don't know the difference between hearsay and documented fact with quotes & cites is to be expected as you have been demonstrating for days now.

Go for it. Cite the sources. All of them. And make damn sure they don't include any informatoin gathered from phone calls, face to face intereviews that weren't recorded...

thx.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 03, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
Go for it. Cite the sources. All of them. And make damn sure they don't include any informatoin gathered from phone calls, face to face intereviews that weren't recorded...

thx.


The desparate cry of a gutted opponent in his death throws.  Now denying all my links, cites and sources as though somehow they just don't exist, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...you'd do well on a leftist website...a carbon copy.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: BadCat on November 03, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
The desparate cry of a gutted opponent in his death throws.  Now denying all my links, cites and sources as though somehow they just don't exist, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...you'd do well on a leftist website...a carbon copy.

You believe everything you read on the internet?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Chris_ on November 03, 2009, 03:56:55 PM
You believe everything you read on the internet?

If prior posts are to be believed, it believes ONLY what it reads on the internet.  You can't run a url link to it, it didn't happen.   :mental:
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 03, 2009, 05:40:32 PM
The desparate cry of a gutted opponent in his death throws.  Now denying all my links, cites and sources as though somehow they just don't exist, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...you'd do well on a leftist website...a carbon copy.

So... you aren't going to cite all those sources?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: docstew on November 04, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
An unabashed basher?

That's quite the rhetorical flourish.


Actually it was "unabashed CHRISTIAN-basher"...no rhetoric...just a fact. 

Ok, i'm going to break this down for you.  MSB was making a comment about your turn of phrase, specifically the use of "bash" in words in close proximity.  You then proceeded to fly off the handle, attacking everything in sight.  Seek Help, you have obvious anger issues.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 10:28:41 AM
That you don't know the difference between hearsay and documented fact with quotes & cites is to be expected as you have been demonstrating for days now.
And you don't know when people are yanking your chain just to see you spin in circles.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 10:35:28 AM
You believe everything you read on the internet?

I use legitimate recognized sources e.g. Heritage Foundation, The Washington Times, Cato, Wall St Journal, etc as my links show!  That is not an example of believing everything I read on the net.

Where are your sources and links?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 10:38:12 AM
Keep your powder dry...

Who the **** are you going to shoot you *****?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
So... you aren't going to cite all those sources?

First, since I've been here I've not seen you bring a single link, source, fact, etc. to the table.  You're nothing but the typical board troll jumping in and out of threads blowing gas.

Second, every one of my threads(REAL HARD TO FIND SINCE VIRTUALLY ALL ARE NEW OR VERY RECENT) start with a link or a souce or a cite or some combination thereof.  Take your lazy ass to any of my threads and see them for yourself...I'm not going to post them a second time for a loser like you.

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 04, 2009, 10:42:56 AM
First, since I've been here I've not seen you bring a single link, source, fact, etc. to the table.  You're nothing but the typical board troll jumping in and out of threads blowing gas.

Second, every one of my threads(REAL HARD TO FIND SINCE VIRTUALLY ALL ARE NEW OR VERY RECENT) start with a link or a souce or a cite or some combination thereof.  Take your lazy ass to any of my threads and see them for yourself...I'm not going to post them a second time for a loser like you.



You sure told me. I bet your mommy is proud.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 10:45:45 AM

Ok, i'm going to break this down for you.  MSB was making a comment about your turn of phrase, specifically the use of "bash" in words in close proximity.  You then proceeded to fly off the handle, attacking everything in sight.

Take a hike!  He was being a smartass and I called him on it.  Here is what he said which was (1) not necessary and (2) did nothing to develop the issue of the thread:

" An unabashed basher?

That's quite the rhetorical flourish."

That's YOUR BOY being a smartass...deal with it.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 10:46:52 AM
You sure told me. I bet your mommy is proud.

Still waiting to see your links & sources?  I can't find them.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 10:48:29 AM
Take a hike!  He was being a smartass and I called him on it.  Here is what he said which was (1) not necessary and (2) did nothing to develop the issue of the thread:

" An unabashed basher?

That's quite the rhetorical flourish."

That's YOUR BOY being a smartass...deal with it.
Mere hearsay.

Or is it Hear mere-say?

*shrugs*
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 04, 2009, 10:49:43 AM
Still waiting to see your links & sources?  I can't find them.

I've made no claims therefore need cite nothing. You've made a claim about a persons thoughts and character. I expect that you will back that up. Your decision to cite only right-leaning sights (Heritage) will be easily dismissed by anyone who doesn't agree with your assessments or claims. So while you'll find agreement amongst conservatives, you'll find just as many who are not conservative who will disagree with your assessment or your sources assessment.

So I'll continue to wait for you to cite sources proving your claim... w/o hearsay.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 10:54:01 AM
Let's note that we have the same cast of low forehead characters that we see in my other threads ignoring the topic of this thread to attack me.  We can rightly assume that these dullards are incapable of addressing the topic so they do what dullards do...stir the pot.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
Mere hearsay.

Or is it Hear mere-say?

*shrugs*

I've reduced them to trolls...
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Chris_ on November 04, 2009, 10:55:32 AM
Let's not that we have the same cast of low forehead characters that we see in my other threads ignoring the topic of this thread to attack me.  We can rightly assume that these dullards are incapable of addressing the topic so they do what dullards do...stir the pot.

Look in the mirror much, Felcher?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 04, 2009, 11:00:12 AM
I've reduced them to trolls...

Go to the dictionary site you've been using and look up the word "irony."
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
I've made no claims therefore need cite nothing.

I busted your "mandate" claim and your "hearsay" claim.  You've been pounding on those to days now...so where in the hell are your links, etc to back up your mouth?

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So I'll continue to wait for you to cite sources proving your claim... w/o hearsay.

You can't find my threads?  They are all new/recent!  I'm not going to repost them for you.  There's a link in this thread that supports my statement as in all my threads...you cant see it??  

I think I'm going to let YOU make YOU my punching bag.  I've never see such a piece of sad flesh walk up stick out his chin and say hit me like you do, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...what a mauling, ha,ha,ha,ha,..
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 11:03:10 AM
Go to the dictionary site you've been using and look up the word "irony."

You'd better take a look at the word "pathetic," and the term "out-classed."
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 04, 2009, 11:05:36 AM
I busted your "mandate" claim and your "hearsay" claim.  You've been pounding on those to days now...so where in the hell are your links, etc to back up your mouth?

You can't find my threads?  They are all new/recent!  I'm not going to repost them for you.  There's a link in this thread that supports my statement as in all my threads...you cant see it??  

I think I'm going to let YOU make YOU my punching bag.  I've never see such a piece of sad flesh walk up stick out his chin and say hit me like you do, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...what a mauling, ha,ha,ha,ha,..

You've busted nothing. You've just shown that you can't follow logic and don't understand how this will be argued by the left and how SCOTUS could rule. You're more intent on winning than being correct.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
I've reduced them to trolls...
Actually I commented on your writing style or rather lack thereof.

For someone that invests so much of his ego into his online persona one would think you'd spend more time and consideration on your writing skills.

The preacher once told me he could take away my sins I replied, "but I've put so much time and effort into them." You should go back to preaching to your congregation of mirrors; they're the only ones that like you. You are neither needed nor wanted here. You aren't going to teach us anything because we are already solid in our conservative beliefs and we don't need some self-anointed annoyingly unabashed basher trying to phone homos with his homophones.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 11:22:39 AM
You've busted nothing. You've just shown that you can't follow logic and don't understand how this will be argued by the left and how SCOTUS could rule. You're more intent on winning than being correct.

At this point, you've made NINE posts in this thread: eight insults and one off-topic rant.  This has been your contribution to the issue of this thread.  You have argued NOTHING on the issue as usual.

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Chris_ on November 04, 2009, 11:26:40 AM
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Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: NHSparky on November 04, 2009, 11:28:13 AM
Yes.  He no longer amuses me.  Off with his head.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 11:30:21 AM
At this point, you've made NINE posts in this thread: eight insults and one off-topic rant.  This has been your contribution to the issue of this thread.  You have argued NOTHING on the issue as usual.


No one here likes Obama or his appointees. We were all over Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Jones, Dunn, Susstein, ACORN, Sotomayor, the SEIU et al long before you got here and will be after you've gone...and we're just drooling over the prospect of demonstrating that last part.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 11:32:31 AM
Actually I commented on your writing style or rather lack thereof.

Be sure to point this out to your dumbass friend who just posted on your behalf that you were only making nice in trying to point out how close I put the words bashed and unbashed to each other.  He stupidly thinks you were being sincere as opposed to being an ass as I pointed out to him.

When you reduce someone from debating/discussing the issue to whining about writing style that's called a WIN!  This happens when your opponent is intellectually out of gas.

I note that you call my bringing of facts, cites and sources and discussing them "preaching."  Why are you bashing the unbashed facts I link and source?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 11:36:54 AM
No one here likes Obama or his appointees. We were all over Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Jones, Dunn, Susstein, ACORN, Sotomayor, the SEIU et al long before you got here and will be after you've gone...and we're just drooling over the prospect of demonstrating that last part.

This is not about Wright, Ayers et al!  It's about a NEW judicial appointee!  You can read the title, right??  How about the link with the story??  Need any help reading any of that?? 

 
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 11:41:01 AM
Be sure to point this out to your dumbass friend who just posted on your behalf that you were only making nice in trying to point out how close I put the words bashed and unbashed to each other.  He stupidly thinks you were being sincere as opposed to being an ass as I pointed out to him.

When you reduce someone from debating/discussing the issue to whining about writing style that's called a WIN!  This happens when your opponent is intellectually out of gas.

I note that you call my bringing of facts, cites and sources and discussing them "preaching."  Why are you bashing the unbashed facts I link and source?

But I was being sincere. I sincerely think your writing style sucks.

I wasn't going for WIN.

This is not about Wright, Ayers et al!  It's about a NEW judicial appointee!  You can read the title, right??  How about the link with the story??  Need any help reading any of that?? 
Who the **** cares about your idiotic thread? ALL of Obama's nominees/appointees hate America, judicial or otherwise.

More to the point we don't need your dumbass to know that and oppose it.

Go fellate a chainsaw.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: BadCat on November 04, 2009, 11:54:46 AM
I use legitimate recognized sources e.g. Heritage Foundation, The Washington Times, Cato, Wall St Journal, etc as my links show!  That is not an example of believing everything I read on the net.

Where are your sources and links?

I don't need any.
I haven't said jackshit to you directly and I have no interest in discussing issues with you. 

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 12:05:03 PM
But I was being sincere. I sincerely think your writing style sucks.

As I pointed out before, when you reduce them to whining about writing style you own them.

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Who the **** cares about your idiotic thread?

Then get out of it, right?  Takes a real moron to whine about a thread he posting in but claims he doesn't care about the issue, right?

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 12:25:21 PM
As I pointed out before, when you reduce them to whining about writing style you own them.
got a link to prove that rule?

Obviously you ignore my comments elsewhere in this thread dealing with the OP. I guess that demonstrates your weakness of mind.

Yes, I commented on your writing style because I was specifically drawing attention to how your ego is undeserved. This entire thread is about your ego because you bring nothing new to this forum except your ego. As I've stated--in this thread--we don't need you to understand how much Obama's appointees and nominees suck.

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Then get out of it, right?  Takes a real moron to whine about a thread he posting in but claims he doesn't care about the issue, right?

Then get out of our forum; all you do is complain about us.

On your own pitard, dumbass.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 01:01:11 PM
I don't need any.

Yes you do if you attack others for bringing them as you did.

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I haven't said jackshit to you directly

So you didn't say this..."You believe everything you read on the internet?" above???

Is that not YOU saying "jackshit"(your word) to me???  Is that not you being a smartass about my bringing legitimate sources and links to this site???

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I have no interest in discussing issues with you. 
 

So you just want to jump into my threads with insults...got it.

 

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
got a link to prove that rule?

Don't need link...your posts prove it just fine.

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Obviously you ignore my comments elsewhere in this thread dealing with the OP. I guess that demonstrates your weakness of mind.

I've addressed you posts just as I am doing now...read much?

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Yes, I commented on your writing style because I was specifically drawing attention to how your ego is undeserved.

Oh so now we go from writing style to ego...yep, I own you.

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 01:21:10 PM
Hey, Mr Super Special Reading Type Special Kinda Guy...I said nobody cares about your thread I never said I didn't care about the issue. One would think someone if you spend so-o-o-o-o much time arguing semantics and implied context someone as smart as you wouldn't make such an elementary mistake.

But that's neither here nor there.

If you said, "Then get out of it, right?  Takes a real moron to whine about a thread he posting in but claims he doesn't care about the issue, right?" why are you still at this forum?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: DixieBelle on November 04, 2009, 01:26:12 PM
A fire deprived of oxygen surely dies people. So does a DUmmie but.... :rofl:
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Chris_ on November 04, 2009, 01:27:23 PM
A fire deprived of oxygen surely dies people. So does a DUmmie but.... :rofl:

I've never been more happy that the board has an <IGNORE> button, lemme tell ya.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: BadCat on November 04, 2009, 01:32:33 PM
Yes you do if you attack others for bringing them as you did.

So you didn't say this..."You believe everything you read on the internet?" above???

Is that not YOU saying "jackshit"(your word) to me???  Is that not you being a smartass about my bringing legitimate sources and links to this site???
 

So you just want to jump into my threads with insults...got it.


You're a gullible little freak.

No one here gives a flying **** at a rolling doughnut about your opinion on anything.
You ****ed up any chance of any meaningful conversation here with your first three posts.
You look so familiar...didn't I know you over at CU?  Weren't you a libtard socialist scum in your incarnations over there?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 01:43:21 PM
You're a gullible little freak.

No one here gives a flying **** at a rolling doughnut about your opinion on anything.
You ****ed up any chance of any meaningful conversation here with your first three posts.
You look so familiar...didn't I know you over at CU?  Weren't you a libtard socialist scum in your incarnations over there?

Oh...look...I nailed this clown with his own words and now he has gone off on a tantrum, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...it don't get no funnier than this, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...

No...I'm no socialist.  I'm a hardcore conservative!  Far more hardcore than what I have seen at this site.  I stomp leftists...it's what I do...and I do it with facts which absolutely pissess them off something awful.  Ring any bells?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: BadCat on November 04, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
Oh...look...I nailed this clown with his own words and now he has gone off on a tantrum, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...it don't get no funnier than this, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...

No...I'm no socialist.  I'm a hardcore conservative!  Far more hardcore than what I have seen at this site.  I stomp leftists...it's what I do...and I do it with facts which absolutely pissess them off something awful.  Ring any bells?

Can you spell?
You're a ****ing idiot.  Flunk second grade punctuation, did you?

Yeah, you're someone we've seen before, and we didn't like you in that incarnation either.

Your time here will be short, enjoy your trolling.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 04, 2009, 02:22:44 PM
Can you spell?
You're a ******* idiot.  Flunk second grade punctuation, did you?

Yeah, you're someone we've seen before, and we didn't like you in that incarnation either.

Your time here will be short, enjoy your trolling.


Still on your rant, I see.  Really pissed you off that I rammed your own words down your throat, huh??  Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...temper, temper...did I misssspell anything?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: BadCat on November 04, 2009, 02:41:06 PM
Still on your rant, I see.  Really pissed you off that I rammed your own words down your throat, huh??  Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...temper, temper...did I misssspell anything?

I'm not pissed off at all, I just think you're an uneducated, ranting idiot.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on November 05, 2009, 07:52:58 AM
Still on your rant, I see.  Really pissed you off that I rammed your own words down your throat, huh??  Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha...temper, temper...did I misssspell anything?
Yes! :-)
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Eupher on November 05, 2009, 12:25:46 PM
deportliberals -

Are you even halfway aware of the right-wing bias that The Washington Times clearly has?

An op-ed to boot?

Yeah, okay. Kinda makes me wish that I had posted a link to The Boy Scout Handbook when I was talking about building a campfire. IOW, BFD.

More to the point, Hamilton is a whacko, lunatic lib judge. Just the kind that will rebuild America - in Lord Zero's image, of course.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 10, 2009, 02:01:47 PM
deportliberals -

Are you even halfway aware of the right-wing bias that The Washington Times clearly has?

An op-ed to boot?

Never seen right wing bias in the Times...just facts.

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More to the point, Hamilton is a whacko, lunatic lib judge.

Yep...as noted in my link and my statement.  Another constitution-hater from the left.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Eupher on November 10, 2009, 03:11:17 PM
Never seen right wing bias in the Times...just facts.


Okay, let's take an article out of the Washington Times - a professed news article - and let's see if you can see some right-wing bias:

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'Fuzzy math' could drive health bill cost higher

The official $1.1 trillion price tag for the House Democrats' health care bill excludes dozens of unfunded programs that could drive up costs when future congresses look to fund them.

Republicans said the health care bill includes two dozen programs whose funding is listed as "such sums as may be necessary." That amounts to legislative jargon, they said, for "We'll bill you later."

The list of projects ranges from the "No child left unimmunized against influenza" project to 10 programs in the Indian health care system. There are also programs to encourage people to go into nursing and to spur states to restrain medical-malpractice lawsuits.

The tactic is far from new and has been used for years by Republicans and Democrats alike. The health reform examples are just the latest of what has become known as "fuzzy math" - the sort of budgeting that has been drawing extra scrutiny as the economy sputters, federal spending balloons and deficits deepen.

Republican leaders said leaving appropriations for a later date meant lawmakers were voting blind this weekend on health reform in the House. "How can members of Congress cast informed votes on a bill when there is no way to know the true cost to the American taxpayer?" said Rep. Jerry Lewis of California, the top Republican on the House Appropriations Committee.

But Democrats said leaving spending decisions up to future congresses is standard operating procedure under both parties and is the only way to let the appropriations committees weigh priorities. They said authorizing a program doesn't mean it will get money, and they pointed to a host of programs that have never gotten off the ground because Congress has never funded them properly.

"If you're calling these fuzzy math, then every authorization bill is fuzzy math," said a Democratic aide, who requested anonymity. "It's not fuzzy math at all. It's not math. That's the way Congress works. You authorize a program, and the appropriators appropriate for it."

Until Saturday's late-night health vote, much of the criticism for fuzzy calculations has been aimed at the administration's calculation of jobs "saved or created" by the $787 billion stimulus package.

Late last month, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed to stumble over the math, touting that 1 million jobs have been created so far - but immediately adding that those calculations can't be expected to be "100 percent accurate."

The official tally is 650,000 jobs saved or created by stimulus investment, but Mr. Biden said the indirect effect of the spending means the real number is much higher.

...snip...

Wash. Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/10/fuzzy-math-could-boost-health-care-bills-hefty-cos/)

This article is one that I pretty much grabbed at random - without doing any research at all. Just grabbed the first news article I saw.

Note that this is a "news article" and not an op-ed.

I'd say that terms like "fuzzy math" are deliberate attempts by the editors to sway the reader negatively away from the Dem-controlled Congress.

Furthermore, comments like these:

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Late last month, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. seemed to stumble over the math...

tend to paint "Plugs" as being an idiot.

While I tend to agree with any assessment that depicts "Plugs" as being an idiot, I'm reasonably sure that most of the people of Delaware don't think of him that way. Say what you will, "Plugs" occupied a seat in the Senate for a very long time and managed to "stumble" his way to the Veep gig. It could be argued that stupid people don't generally make it to that level of government if they're truly stupid, but I think we've had more than a few instances where we've had idiotic Veeps in the government throughout our history.

Bottom line is, within just a few short paragraphs (the story goes on over two pages), I've pulled up two examples of what I believe the Washington Times shows its right-wing bias.

For the record, I have no problem with bias of any type because within the media - irrespective of which end of the political spectrum it favors - there will ALWAYS be bias.

To say that any one news source reports only "facts" is nothing short of astounding. Should a person continue to believe that kind of nonsense shows me that the person is either naive, delusional, or just plain uninformed.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 11, 2009, 08:29:28 AM
Okay, let's take an article out of the Washington Times - a professed news article - and let's see if you can see some right-wing bias:

Note that this is a "news article" and not an op-ed.

I'd say that terms like "fuzzy math" are deliberate attempts by the editors to sway the reader negatively away from the Dem-controlled Congress.

Next time your local community college offers remedial reading 01 sign up!  First, I don't know what your problem is with Op-eds??  As long as they contain documented sourcable facts that will support the author's opinion IT IS FACT!  That's called "research"!!!

For the Times to point out that unbudgeted, unfunded mandates are in this bill and that both republicans and democrats do this is NOT bias!  If the Times had spun that point to exclude republicans THEN that would be bias...Times didn't do that. Further, the CBO agrees with the Times on this point.

Regarding the utterly immature moronic "created/saved jobs" nonsense, the Times has an obligation to its readers to take on that issue.   There is no such thing as a saved job measure anywhere in the Dept of Labor or Bureau of Labor Stats or jargon.  Such terms are white house inventions using fuzzy math and the Times is not being biased to expose this fact.

What is biased is the lying leftist mainstream media refusing to cover/address the above issues properly or spiking the stories all together.

Wanna try again? 

Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: NHSparky on November 11, 2009, 08:33:49 AM
Perhaps if you expanded the phrase "Op-Ed" to its full verbage you'd understand the point.

What is it about OPINION-EDITORIAL that confuses you?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 11, 2009, 09:38:10 AM
Perhaps if you expanded the phrase "Op-Ed" to its full verbage you'd understand the point.

What is it about OPINION-EDITORIAL that confuses you?

Oh...so you can no longer defend your example of Times' bias after I took you apart on that one so you're now trying the generic Op-ed angle.  Again, as long as the FACTS/sourcable FACTS support the author's view there is NO bias!  Bias occurs when the author strays from the facts or omits facts and that did NOT happen in the Op-Ed I brought...deal with it.

Next? 
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: asdf2231 on November 11, 2009, 10:44:39 AM
Let's note that we have the same cast of low forehead characters that we see in my other threads ignoring the topic of this thread to attack me.  We can rightly assume that these dullards are incapable of addressing the topic so they do what dullards do...stir the pot.

Why don't you go outside and play a nice game of Hide And Go **** Yourself?  Mmmm'kay?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: deportliberals on November 11, 2009, 11:01:10 AM
Why don't you go outside and play a nice game of Hide And Go **** Yourself?  Mmmm'kay?


Another low forehead chimes in and demonstrates that IT is not intellectually capable of addressing the topic of thread or the issue of "bias."
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: AllosaursRus on November 11, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
sounds like hearsay to me.  :rotf: :rotf:

I was thinking this judge's views sound more like horseshit than hearsay.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: AllosaursRus on November 11, 2009, 11:20:03 AM
I use legitimate recognized sources e.g. Heritage Foundation, The Washington Times, Cato, Wall St Journal, etc as my links show!  That is not an example of believing everything I read on the net.

Where are your sources and links?

Wow! Little touchy are we? Why not just post the background you believe is relevent?
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: asdf2231 on November 11, 2009, 11:22:17 AM
Another low forehead chimes in and demonstrates that IT is not intellectually capable of addressing the topic of thread or the issue of "bias."

I'm sorry.  I made a comment that wasn't relevant and you had to take time out of your incredibly important schedule of arguing like some screaming fairy on the internet in between surfing anime midget furry porn vids to address it.  People should be more respectful of your time.

That's because it stopped being about the stupid Op-Ed piece you dragged in here and started to become about what a massive unlikable douche-bag YOU are.  You should be happy! It's ALL ABOUT YOU.

Because YOU personally are a wholly and completely unlikable prick.  The kind of guy that would get used in prison and not offered a reach-around. A total spasmoidal, spastic, bleeding hemorrhoid of a personality. The kind of person Lassie would piss on before running home and NOT telling Tommy that you fell down the well and need insulin. Someone who OTHER internet assholes look at and shake their heads in awed amazement and pity over how generally idiotic and self important you are. A ****ing wanker with a capitol "wank". The Paris Hilton of intelectual endeavors. A total zero.

Jesus Christ on a rocket powered pogo stick, I always wondered what happened to the kid that used to get flung by his atomic wedgied underoos into a dumpster or shunned by the cute girls. Nice to see you found a vocation. Kudos on ya.

 :whatever:
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: NHSparky on November 11, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
Another low forehead chimes in and demonstrates that IT is not intellectually capable of addressing the topic of thread or the issue of "bias."

He says as he wipes his chin off after blowing the Washington Times editorial staff.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: AllosaursRus on November 11, 2009, 11:29:16 AM
Don't need link...your posts prove it just fine.

I've addressed you posts just as I am doing now...read much?

Oh so now we go from writing style to ego...yep, I own you.



I'm not thru the whole thread yet, but isn't this getting close to calling out the Viking Kitties on this whack job? Oh, sorry, wrong forum!

Anyway, it's pretty rare we get somebody who claims to agree with us that is this "self appointed important"!
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Eupher on November 11, 2009, 11:38:44 AM
Next time your local community college offers remedial reading 01 sign up!  First, I don't know what your problem is with Op-eds??  As long as they contain documented sourcable facts that will support the author's opinion IT IS FACT!  That's called "research"!!!

For the Times to point out that unbudgeted, unfunded mandates are in this bill and that both republicans and democrats do this is NOT bias!  If the Times had spun that point to exclude republicans THEN that would be bias...Times didn't do that. Further, the CBO agrees with the Times on this point.

Regarding the utterly immature moronic "created/saved jobs" nonsense, the Times has an obligation to its readers to take on that issue.   There is no such thing as a saved job measure anywhere in the Dept of Labor or Bureau of Labor Stats or jargon.  Such terms are white house inventions using fuzzy math and the Times is not being biased to expose this fact.

What is biased is the lying leftist mainstream media refusing to cover/address the above issues properly or spiking the stories all together.

Wanna try again? 


 :rotf: :lmao:

I'm still laughing at asdf's rather apt description of you, DL. Wanker, indeed.  :lmao: Asdf, one minor correction if you don't mind - Lassie's little buddy was Timmy, not Tommy. But that's okay since Lassie wouldn't be seen in the same room as our resident alien here.

DL, others have chimed in with what they see as a clear demonstration as to what bias is and isn't. You would be laughed out of a debate or courtroom or other venue where facts are to be presented if you actually present some guy's op-ed as "fact." That you don't see that as the incredible folly it is clearly shows your own level of incompetence and incomprehension.

Why don't you address the two specific examples? You'll note that I didn't state the ENTIRE article was full of bias - merely that bias exists. Let me remind you that you made this immature and completely ludicrous and moronic statement:

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Never seen right wing bias in the Times...just facts.

You type so fast you don't think. That's yet another sign of immaturity and lack of reason, not to mention the hair trigger you've got.

Op-ed. Sparky posted it. You may want to increase your own vocabulary and look up the meaning. Then come back and give us all a report on what it means to you.

You have shown an incredible level of anger, brimming and simmering just beneath your personality's shallow surface. You think you are enlightening the world with your wit and wisdom when, in fact, those who have seen more and done more on this planet than you could possibly have see something else entirely - an unhappy, spoiled, and pathetic young man who is bent on showing not just the crack of his ass, but the rest of it too.

Plumber's pants won't work for you, my friend. You're too far gone.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Chris_ on November 11, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
I'm sorry.  I made a comment that wasn't relevant and you had to take time out of your incredibly important schedule of arguing like some screaming fairy on the internet in between surfing anime midget furry porn vids to address it.  People should be more respectful of your time.

That's because it stopped being about the stupid Op-Ed piece you dragged in here and started to become about what a massive unlikable douche-bag YOU are.  You should be happy! It's ALL ABOUT YOU.

Because YOU personally are a wholly and completely unlikable prick.  The kind of guy that would get used in prison and not offered a reach-around. A total spasmoidal, spastic, bleeding hemorrhoid of a personality. The kind of person Lassie would piss on before running home and NOT telling Tommy that you fell down the well and need insulin. Someone who OTHER internet assholes look at and shake their heads in awed amazement and pity over how generally idiotic and self important you are. A ******* wanker with a capitol "wank". The Paris Hilton of intelectual endeavors. A total zero.

Jesus Christ on a rocket powered pogo stick, I always wondered what happened to the kid that used to get flung by his atomic wedgied underoos into a dumpster or shunned by the cute girls. Nice to see you found a vocation. Kudos on ya.

 :whatever:

Best damn rant I've read....kudos!
 :bow:

doc
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: Airwolf on November 12, 2009, 12:07:39 AM
What a DDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DL had certainly wasted enough time and effort that could have been better spent looking at gay quadriplegic midget porn.
Title: Re: Obama Nominates Another America Hater To The Bench
Post by: bkg on November 13, 2009, 11:48:02 AM

This guy is still around? Damn - he's more myopic and arrogant than anyone in the current administration.