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Title: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: NHSparky on October 31, 2009, 10:13:21 AM
Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign

LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/31/republican-scozzafava-suspends-new-york-congressional-campaign/)

FOXNews.com
October 31, 2009

The move comes on the heels of a new poll that showed Republican Dede Scozzafava had fallen behind her two competitors in a race too close.

(excerpt)

Republican state Assemblywoman Dierdre Scozzafava has suspended her campaign for upstate New York's 23rd Congressional seat, leaving Democratic nominee Bill Owens and Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman in the race that will conclude Tuesday.

The move comes on the heels of a new poll that showed Scozzafava had fallen behind her two competitors in a race too close.

The Siena College poll has Owens picking up 36 percent of the vote, while Hoffman has 35 percent. Scozzafava has 20 percent, with nine percent of voters undecided.

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How many people feel like the Verizon guy today--CAN YOU HEAR US NOW, RNC/GOP????
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Mr Mannn on October 31, 2009, 10:21:42 AM
Heh. Conservatives rule. RINOs drool.

Ya know maybe its time for a new party. Its time to leave when the GOP says, "Sure she's a liberal, but theres an 'R' next to her name so you HAVE to support her!"

Really. I saw what the party did to Sarah after the election. Thats not my party.
I can only hope the GOP learns a lesson here, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Carl on October 31, 2009, 10:22:29 AM
NY 20 next year!!!!
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Airwolf on October 31, 2009, 10:41:49 AM
The games afoot. Anyone want to bet that the dem is sweating it now that the other lib is gone.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: docstew on October 31, 2009, 10:43:15 AM
the utter death knell of the GOP would be for her to endorse the dem.  given her leanings and history, it might happen.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Odin's Hand on October 31, 2009, 10:44:06 AM
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Scozzafava didn't endorse either of the remaining candidates, opting instead to allow her supporters make their own choice.

Goes to show that endorsing conservative policies and values were never part of the equation with her or her backers.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Airwolf on October 31, 2009, 10:44:53 AM
the utter death knell of the GOP would be for her to endorse the dem.  given her leanings and history, it might happen.

It wouldn't surprise me after hearing about her. It may not be enough to overcome the Obama curse though.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: docstew on October 31, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
but here's a thought:
she only suspended the campaign.  hasn't conceded.  her name will still be on the ballot.

How many RINOs will peel in either direction?  How many uninformed RINOs will vote for her anyway?  Would they go with "the enemy you know"?  Would they listen to Newt et al and keep up the fire on Hoffman?
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: NHSparky on October 31, 2009, 11:05:53 AM
but here's a thought:
she only suspended the campaign.  hasn't conceded.  her name will still be on the ballot.

How many RINOs will peel in either direction?  How many uninformed RINOs will vote for her anyway?  Would they go with "the enemy you know"?  Would they listen to Newt et al and keep up the fire on Hoffman?

The election is 72 hours out.  Her name would have been on the ballot anyway.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 31, 2009, 11:58:33 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/31/breaking-scozzafava-quits-after-siena-poll/

 :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 31, 2009, 12:09:53 PM
Goes to show that endorsing conservative policies and values were never part of the equation with her or her backers.
She ran as a republican but won't endorse a republican. She can't even return the party loyalty she demanded.

Outright pettiness, disloyalty and spite.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Lord Undies on October 31, 2009, 12:10:20 PM
This is series and hugh!
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on October 31, 2009, 12:40:23 PM
Take THAT Newt !   :tongue:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: debk on October 31, 2009, 12:47:57 PM
Fox was reporting an hour or so ago, that Michael Steele has asked "Republicans" to support the "Conservative" candidate.

Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on October 31, 2009, 12:50:59 PM
Fox was reporting an hour or so ago, that Michael Steele has asked "Republicans" to support the "Conservative" candidate.



Hey Mike.....get the message now???

doc
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: debk on October 31, 2009, 12:52:31 PM
Hey Mike.....get the message now???

doc

The street lights might be starting to blink on...
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: GOBUCKS on October 31, 2009, 01:02:44 PM
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts)     Sat Oct-31-09 01:44 PM
8. Karl Rove's big goal was to have the most extreme elements in each party win
That way, nothing could really get done. I am certain Rove is still up to his old tricks.


I think coach's squeeze is repeating pillow talk. Is coach giving away strategy for a little leftward-leaning poon?

Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Splashdown on October 31, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
A classy move by Scozzafava. Let's watch as Hoffman's win is portrayed as the "extreme right" is taking over the party.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on October 31, 2009, 01:13:33 PM
A classy move by Scozzafava. Let's watch as Hoffman's win is portrayed as the "extreme right" is taking over the party.  :whatever:

Based on what I've seen of this woman, classy she ain't........she just got mugged by reality.

Of course it will be portrayed as you suggested, but that is exactly who should be running the party right now......

doc
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: debk on October 31, 2009, 01:15:57 PM
A classy move by Scozzafava. Let's watch as Hoffman's win is portrayed as the "extreme right" is taking over the party.  :whatever:


Based on Steele already telling Reps to support Hoffman.....I would venture a guess that Scozzafava didn't voluntarily step aside. I would say it was strongly suggested to her....
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Splashdown on October 31, 2009, 01:42:02 PM

Based on Steele already telling Reps to support Hoffman.....I would venture a guess that Scozzafava didn't voluntarily step aside. I would say it was strongly suggested to her....

Leave a guy his illusions, wouldja?  :-)
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 31, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
Good news, I hope than most of her supporters will go to Hoffman and not Owens
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: debk on October 31, 2009, 01:48:27 PM
Leave a guy his illusions, wouldja?  :-)


 :blowkiss:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 31, 2009, 09:09:44 PM
Scozzafava is not a RINO. Mark Steyn put it much better. She is a DIABLO - Democrat In All But Label Only.  :rotf:

Go Hoffman.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 31, 2009, 09:32:22 PM
It didn't sound like she actually endorsed him.

Steele needs to resign. Newts just a disgrace.


Sarah Palin will get blamed by the left, their bubble meme that the "Big Tent" is needed is popped... leftists are terrified.... Palin has slain the RINO and the leftists are next we will hear the lamentations of their lesbians... :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: The Village Idiot on November 01, 2009, 11:03:18 AM
Scuzzy is now apparently backing the Democrat in the race.


Wait, didn't Newt say she was the future of the GOP? That we conservatives were the traitors. hhhmmmm
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 01, 2009, 12:05:55 PM
Scuzzy is now apparently backing the Democrat in the race.


Wait, didn't Newt say she was the future of the GOP? That we conservatives were the traitors. hhhmmmm

To be fair to Scuzzy(?), there was a piece on RedState maybe a week or so ago to the effect that she was considering defecting to the Dems anyway.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Duke Nukum on November 01, 2009, 02:20:18 PM
SCOZZAFAVA THROWS SUPPORT TO OWENS (http://watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091101/NEWS09/911019992)
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 01, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
SCOZZAFAVA THROWS SUPPORT TO OWENS (http://watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091101/NEWS09/911019992)


Color me surprised; nay, shocked, I tell you.
(http://www.thecardioblog.com/images/2005/04/sanford.jpg)
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 01, 2009, 02:33:23 PM
What a piece of feces.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: docstew on November 01, 2009, 02:36:15 PM
SCOZZAFAVA THROWS SUPPORT TO OWENS (http://watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091101/NEWS09/911019992)


sure am glad that Newt told us to support the person with the R, even though it seems to me like the Dems had two candidates in this race.

Everybody go home, Newt just puked in the fish tank.  This party is dead. 
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Splashdown on November 01, 2009, 02:38:04 PM
I hereby retract my "classy" statement upthread.  :thatsright:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Carl on November 01, 2009, 03:56:42 PM
She can throw support to the dem but don`t think that will amount to much.

Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: TheSarge on November 01, 2009, 03:57:21 PM
Color me shocked.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: thundley4 on November 01, 2009, 03:59:17 PM
I'm waiting for Newt to say he was wrong in backing her over the real conservative in the race
.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: TheSarge on November 01, 2009, 04:03:45 PM
I'm waiting for Newt to say he was wrong in backing her over the real conservative in the race
.

You might be waiting awhile.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Airwolf on November 01, 2009, 04:30:08 PM
Well at least Newt has finally realized that Hannity was right when he said Obama was evil.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: thundley4 on November 01, 2009, 04:34:31 PM
You might be waiting awhile.

I predict he will admit it on the 12th of Never.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on November 01, 2009, 04:39:02 PM
Newt's stock just fell 100 points. In fact, his endorsement of Scuzzy makes me question him seriously.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: d206s on November 01, 2009, 04:49:38 PM
It's almost pathetic how long it took the establishment Republicans to get the message.
I'm finished with Newt, Ridge, etc ...........
Time for them to retreat to their Country Clubs and play golf with 'the one'.

Regards
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 01, 2009, 04:55:59 PM
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Party leaders — including Mr. Steele and Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker — had argued that local parties should be permitted to pick candidates that most closely mirror the sentiments of the district, even if those candidates vary from Republican orthodoxy on some issues.

“This makes life more complicated from the standpoint of this: If we get into a cycle where every time one side loses, they run a third-party candidate, we’ll make Pelosi speaker for life and guarantee Obama’s re-election,” said Mr. Gingrich, who had endorsed Ms. Scozzafava.

“I felt very deeply that when you have all 11 county chairman voting for someone, that it wasn’t appropriate for me to come in and render my judgment,” he said. “I think we are going to get into a very difficult environment around the country if suddenly conservative leaders decide they are going to anoint people without regard to local primaries and local choices.”

I agree with Newt. I'd rather control the House and Senate, however it's done. If you want to influence who the candidate is, go after those 11 county chairmen's seats, don't attack the party's candidate. What's been done has been effective, and Hoffman may be the better candidate, but it was a reactionary and lazy way to get it done.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: thundley4 on November 01, 2009, 04:59:35 PM
I agree with Newt. I'd rather control the House and Senate, however it's done. If you want to influence who the candidate is, go after those 11 county chairmen's seats, don't attack the party's candidate. What's been done has been effective, and Hoffman may be the better candidate, but it was a reactionary and lazy way to get it done.

Maybe, just maybe those 11 will be voted out next time.  Did all eleven choose Scozzafava, or was there a split vote?  Then again, maybe in a primary the voters would have picked Hoffman to start with.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Odin's Hand on November 01, 2009, 05:04:47 PM
I agree with Newt. I'd rather control the House and Senate, however it's done. If you want to influence who the candidate is, go after those 11 county chairmen's seats, don't attack the party's candidate. What's been done has been effective, and Hoffman may be the better candidate, but it was a reactionary and lazy way to get it done.

For her to stab the party in the back and endorse the Democrat, it seems that they didn't have the reins on her in the least and she is just looking for the most $$$ from anyone who'll pay her it for her signet stamp.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: bkg on November 01, 2009, 06:51:03 PM
This is what happens when you throw your energy into a party rather than an ideology.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Duke Nukum on November 01, 2009, 10:21:31 PM
I agree with Newt. I'd rather control the House and Senate, however it's done. If you want to influence who the candidate is, go after those 11 county chairmen's seats, don't attack the party's candidate. What's been done has been effective, and Hoffman may be the better candidate, but it was a reactionary and lazy way to get it done.
It was lazy to not hold a primary and just do a backroom deal.  Actually there was a lot of laziness all the way around in the Republican Establishment and the Conservative Party did what it was set up to do when that happens.

It's like what happened in Honduras which the mainstream media insists on calling a coup when what happened is what was set up to happen when certain circumstances were met.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: NHSparky on November 02, 2009, 06:22:47 AM
I agree with Newt. I'd rather control the House and Senate, however it's done. If you want to influence who the candidate is, go after those 11 county chairmen's seats, don't attack the party's candidate. What's been done has been effective, and Hoffman may be the better candidate, but it was a reactionary and lazy way to get it done.

Horseshit.  We let the party leadership in NH pick the candidates, and all they did was put up limp-dick RINO's instead of conservatives who got their heads handed to them.  We're now basically North Massholistan, and Fergus the Mouth-Breather got thrown out on his ass, to be replaced by John "Papa Doc" Sununu.  We'll see if he listens.  So far, the signs (Kelly Ayotte for Judd Gregg's Senate seat, Frank Gunita for Che's 1CD seat) are promising, but I want to see what they're going to do on the LOCAL (state Rep and Senate) level.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: ReardenSteel on November 02, 2009, 12:16:18 PM
Scozzafava now appearing at Owens rallies (Hat Tip to Hot Air for link)
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091102/NEWS05/311029955

What next? Making sure Owens gets Scozzafava's fraudulent ACORN votes?  :p
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 02, 2009, 12:29:55 PM
Scozzafava now appearing at Owens rallies (Hat Tip to Hot Air for link)
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091102/NEWS05/311029955

What next? Making sure Owens gets Scozzafava's fraudulent ACORN votes?  :p

Probably.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: TheSarge on November 02, 2009, 03:43:38 PM

What next? Making sure Owens gets Scozzafava's fraudulent ACORN votes?  :p

Not quite...but almost as bad:

Quote
With this in mind, one has to wonder how media are going to report the news that Scozzafava has actually recorded a "robocall" for Democrat candidate Bill Owens

Hi, this is Dede Scozzafava calling on behalf of Bill Owens.  And I wanted to let you know that I am supporting Bill for Congress.

Since beginning my campaign I have said that this election is not about me, it’s about the people of this district.  It’s not in the cards for me to be your representative but I strongly believe Bill Owens is the only candidate who can build upon John McHugh’s lasting legacy in Congress.

In Bill Owens I see a sense of duty and integrity.  He will be an independent voice, devoted to doing what is right for New York.  To address the tough challenges ahead we must rise above partisanship and politics, and work together.

Please join me in voting for Bill Owens on Tuesday.


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/02/what-will-media-think-scozzafavas-robocall-owens


Hey Newt...how'd that endorsement thing work out for you?
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: BadCat on November 02, 2009, 04:00:48 PM
I'd really like to know how much $$ she got from the RNC for her campaign.

Mr. Steele, this is why the Republican Party no longer gets any $$ from me.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: thundley4 on November 02, 2009, 04:05:42 PM
I'd really like to know how much $$ she got from the RNC for her campaign.

Mr. Steele, this is why the Republican Party no longer gets any $$ from me.

Almost $900,000 according to RedState.  http://www.redstate.com/  on the bottom half of the page.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: TheSarge on November 02, 2009, 04:10:50 PM
Almost $900,000 according to RedState.  http://www.redstate.com/  on the bottom half of the page.

If the RNC had a pair...they'd demand it back from her.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 02, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
If the RNC had a pair...they'd demand it back from her.

Except, you know the RNC leadership is behind the scenes saying, "better luck next time, Dede".  :therock:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 02, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Mr. Steele, this is why the Republican Party no longer gets any $$ from me.

Me either.....for a while.....

doc
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: zeitgeist on November 02, 2009, 05:07:34 PM
There are some great comments on newly Neutered's web page in response to his "I'm endorsing Hoffman" moment,

Quote

By Anonymous @ Monday, November 02, 2009 5:01 PM 
"It's time to nut up, or shut up". 
 
 


More here> (http://newt.org/EditNewt/FeaturedBloggersDB/tabid/193/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4629/I-Am-Endorsing-Doug-Hoffman.aspx?GroupId=0)
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 02, 2009, 05:33:30 PM
There are some great comments on newly Neutered's web page in response to his "I'm endorsing Hoffman" moment,

More here> (http://newt.org/EditNewt/FeaturedBloggersDB/tabid/193/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4629/I-Am-Endorsing-Doug-Hoffman.aspx?GroupId=0)

I loved this one.....

"Want some ketchup with that crow, Noot?

Go clean out your desk, has-been. The grownups are pulling into the driveway."


doc

Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Rebel on November 02, 2009, 06:40:44 PM
Does it honestly surprise anyone who scuzzawhatever threw her support behind? Never let a leftist fruitbat tell you, "You know who you guys should run is ______," or, "Yeah, run Palin, we'll have a field day with her". Really? I guess that's why the morons spent almost all of their time running against her than McCain. I guess that's why they're so threatened by her. I guess that's the reason they're trying tirelessly to take her down, to no avail.

Being an independent conservative, I will always vote for the fiscal conservative. If they throw a RINO up at me again, I'll go 3rd party. Screw it. We need some men and women with some balls to get this beast that is the fed back on a damn leash.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: thundley4 on November 02, 2009, 06:45:24 PM
Does it honestly surprise anyone who scuzzawhatever threw her support behind? Never let a leftist fruitbat tell you, "You know who you guys should run is ______," or, "Yeah, run Palin, we'll have a field day with her". Really? I guess that's why the morons spent almost all of their time running against her than McCain. I guess that's why they're so threatened by her. I guess that's the reason they're trying tirelessly to take her down, to no avail.

Being an independent conservative, I will always vote for the fiscal conservative. If they throw a RINO up at me again, I'll go 3rd party. Screw it. We need some men and women with some balls to get this beast that is the fed back on a damn leash.

The New York Slimes did back McCain for the GOP spot didn't they? 
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 02, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
The New York Slimes did back McCain for the GOP spot didn't they? 

In any REAL world, that should have been our first clue that something was VERY WRONG with the McLame nomination.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: Chris_ on November 03, 2009, 03:00:08 PM
Does it honestly surprise anyone who scuzzawhatever threw her support behind? Never let a leftist fruitbat tell you, "You know who you guys should run is ______," or, "Yeah, run Palin, we'll have a field day with her". Really? I guess that's why the morons spent almost all of their time running against her than McCain. I guess that's why they're so threatened by her. I guess that's the reason they're trying tirelessly to take her down, to no avail.

Being an independent conservative, I will always vote for the fiscal conservative. If they throw a RINO up at me again, I'll go 3rd party. Screw it. We need some men and women with some balls to get this beast that is the fed back on a damn leash.

I'm the same way.....I've identified myself less and less with the Republican party, beginning about the second year of GWB's second term......

doc
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: crockspot on November 03, 2009, 04:52:11 PM
I was in Rouses Point and Champlain NY this morning.. I didn't see any congressional campaign yard signs other than for Hoffman.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: paladin0 on November 03, 2009, 08:53:07 PM
He needs the help, early returns has him behind.

Paladin0
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: jinxmchue on November 03, 2009, 11:53:59 PM
Hoffman has conceded.  Looks like the bitch's endorsement of her former political opponent (seriously, who does that?) worked.
Title: Re: Republican Scozzafava Suspends New York Congressional Campaign
Post by: docstew on November 04, 2009, 07:02:48 AM
Good job Newt, another vote for 0bamacare.