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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on October 26, 2009, 05:42:38 PM
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-26-09 05:12 PM
Original message
Kerry calls for Limiting Expectations in Afghanistan
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON — Calling for a broad, patient war strategy, John Kerry, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Monday that Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the American military commander in Afghanistan, was trying to do too much in a relatively short time.
Senator Kerry, who traveled recently to Afghanistan and Pakistan, said his conversations with General McChrystal covered the importance of a “smart counterinsurgency†approach.
“But I believe his current plan reaches too far, too fast,†Mr. Kerry said at a gathering here of the Council on Foreign Relations, an independent research organization.
While Mr. Kerry did not mention numbers for the troop strength he would like to see in Afghanistan, he seemed to differ, at least implicitly, with General McChrystal, who is believed to be seeking up to 40,000 additional American troops. There are about 68,000 United States troops there now.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/27/world/asia/27kerry.ht...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4119852
There is much stoopidity in this short thread.
mike_c (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-26-09 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
1. I can't tell you how glad I am that Kerry is not president....
Broad, patient war strategy my ass!
Carrying water for war criminals:
Mr. Kerry said the United States was right to begin a military campaign in Afghanistan because the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were spawned there. And the United States is right to persist there now, he said, despite what he called the “gross mishandling†of the effort under the Bush administration.
U.S. out of Iraq and Afghanistan NOW!
beachmom (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-26-09 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. So I guess you hate that Obama is President as well? Because
Obama is NOT going to get out of Afghanistan, I guarantee you.At least not this term, right?
beachmom (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-26-09 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Were the attacks of 9/11 criminal? And was the Taliban government in Afghanistan
criminal for providing safe haven to al Qaeda's leadership and training camps?
No, both were acts of war, not crime.
Flaneur (714 posts) Mon Oct-26-09 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Al Qaeda should have been the target of a policing effort.
It isn't a country, but a criminal network. Invading Afghanistan to get Al Qaeda was stupid, as well as immoral.
Now, eight years after we occupied the country, why are we there? Al Qaeda isn't there, and the Taliban may not be nice guys, but they're hardly a threat to the US.
Yes, the 9/11 attacks were criminal. They should have been treated as crimes, not as acts of war. The Taliban offered to give up Al Qaeda, but we weren't interested. We had to get our war on.
Um, no asshole. They in fact refused to give up Al Qaeda, so they asked for the war.
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It would be difficult for my expectations to be much more limited than they are already.
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It would be difficult for my expectations to be much more limited than they are already.
Or lower for that matter.
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It would be difficult for my expectations to be much more limited than they are already.
Look at it this way--it'll take some extraordinary effort on the behalf of the DUmb****s to be disappointed.
(Not that it doesn't happen, of course--every time.)
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AWH HELL....Did anyone expect anything of a positive nature from Obama?
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AWH HELL....Did anyone expect anything of a positive nature from Obama?
On this board? Not likely. At the DUmp, they were firm believers in Hopey McChamgeycokesnorter.
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Somehow I don't think Herman Munster would be calling for a "patient war strategy" if it were his ass on the line day in and day out being sniped at. In choosing between him and General McChrystal I think I'd go with the latter.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Liberal%20Baiting/Kerry/morph2.gif)
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Somehow I don't think Herman Munster would be calling for a "patient war strategy" if it were his ass on the line day in and day out being sniped at. In choosing between him and General McChrystal I think I'd go with the latter.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Liberal%20Baiting/Kerry/morph2.gif)
He didn't stick around long enough in the Fast Boats to ever truly put his ass on the line. His ass E&E'd out of country as fast as he could.
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So far Obama has exceeded my very lowest expectations with those "Five days in April."
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I don't think we adequately appreciate the sacrifices John F'n has made in service to our country. On top of his self-administered wounds, and all the other scars he brought back from Viet Nam, he now has memories of Afghanistan seared into his mind. You can't doubt the toughness of a man who sacks up with Tuh-raaay-za every night. We could consult no better expert on low expectations.
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Is this the same John Kerry who racked up three purple hearts in 90 days without spending a single day in the hospital...a first in military history. The same John Kerry who was denied his second purple heart application by his commander and who then went around the commander to get it?
The same John Kerry who refused to turn over any of his military medical records during the '2004 presidential election while George Bush was beaten 24/7 to turn over his medical records, which he did. The same John Kerry who held the most liberal voting record in the '2004 senate???
Why would any listen to this moron about tactical military issues??
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Is this the same John Kerry who racked up three purple hearts in 90 days without spending a single day in the hospital...a first in military history. The same John Kerry who was denied his second purple heart application by his commander and who then went around the commander to get it?
The same John Kerry who refused to turn over any of his military medical records during the '2004 presidential election while George Bush was beaten 24/7 to turn over his medical records, which he did. The same John Kerry who held the most liberal voting record in the '2004 senate???
Why would any listen to this moron about tactical military issues??
The "war" "hero". *snicker*.