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Title: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 20, 2009, 12:33:25 PM
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For months NewsBusters has been reporting how the media aided and abetted the creation of Barack Obama's Cult of Personality leading to his eventual election as the 44th President of the United States.

Eight days before his inauguration, Obama's Fox News-hating communications director Anita Dunn and his digital strategist Ben Self, while at a conference in the Dominican Republic hosted by the Global Foundation for Democracy and Development, confirmed the allegation in a tutorial they gave to President Leonel Fernandez and other government officials and guests on how to turn an unknown politician into a messiah.

On Sunday, World News Daily uncovered one of the nine videos recorded that day which gave clues as to how the Obama campaign successfully manipulated

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/candance-moore/2009/10/20/-anita-dunn-how-we-created-obama%27s-cult-of-personality
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Carl on October 20, 2009, 12:39:15 PM
I don`t know,seems like they are making complicated what was an easy thing.

A young black man with an empty record where any criticism would be deflected by charging racism.
The MSM didn`t need any tutorials for that.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Reeanna on October 20, 2009, 01:52:01 PM
I still feel really, really frustrated when I hear  "breaking news" about President Obama and how manipulative his campaign was.  As soon as I knew that he was a serious candidate and checked his background, it was painfully clear that he had no substantive resume and that he was clearly a Marxist.  At heart, he does not have American values and is taking this country in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
I still feel really, really frustrated when I hear  "breaking news" about President Obama and how manipulative his campaign was.  As soon as I knew that he was a serious candidate and checked his background, it was painfully clear that he had no substantive resume and that he was clearly a Marxist.  At heart, he does not have American values and is taking this country in the wrong direction.


Yep.


I can't help but think that Anita Dunn is going to be another nail in the Obama administration coffin.

She is basically coming right out and saying "the media is dumb, we manipulated them to do what we wanted them to do....and they did it."

While MSM might admit to a few mistakes.....they don't want it thrown up into their collective faces that they have been used, manipulated, abused.....by someone else.

They want to think that they are the ones doing the using, manipulating and abusing.

They want the general public to be the dumb ones....not themselves.

Anita Dunn may have been more effective than we are giving her credit.

She, and through her....the Obama administration.... may have just really pissed off the MSM....as it has now been blatantly admitted by Dunn  that they certainly pissed on the MSN.

No "reporter" ever wants to have to admit they have been duped....let alone have it known by anybody else.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: NHSparky on October 20, 2009, 02:35:44 PM
The MSM reminds me of a bull.  Usually pretty lethargic, not too terribly bright, but God help you if you've pissed them off.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Eupher on October 20, 2009, 02:48:10 PM

Yep.


I can't help but think that Anita Dunn is going to be another nail in the Obama administration coffin.

She is basically coming right out and saying "the media is dumb, we manipulated them to do what we wanted them to do....and they did it."

While MSM might admit to a few mistakes.....they don't want it thrown up into their collective faces that they have been used, manipulated, abused.....by someone else.

They want to think that they are the ones doing the using, manipulating and abusing.

They want the general public to be the dumb ones....not themselves.

Anita Dunn may have been more effective than we are giving her credit.

She, and through her....the Obama administration.... may have just really pissed off the MSM....as it has now been blatantly admitted by Dunn  that they certainly pissed on the MSN.

No "reporter" ever wants to have to admit they have been duped....let alone have it known by anybody else.

Bingo, Deb. Excellent post. Why this critter would deliberately antagonize the entities that are literally providing her career is a real puzzler. One can rack it up to just plain stupidity, but I'm not buying that. Say what you want about the present administration, they are collectively not stupid people. So if they're not stupid, and they're saying incredibly harmful things (potentially) to their cause, do they say these things because they've grown de-sensitized to the amount of media attention that they command, simply for being part of the administration?

In other words, are these mistakes from rookies that are happening with 9 months under their belts? Or is there a different agenda?  :confused:
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Carl on October 20, 2009, 02:51:14 PM
Bingo, Deb. Excellent post. Why this critter would deliberately antagonize the entities that are literally providing her career is a real puzzler. One can rack it up to just plain stupidity, but I'm not buying that. Say what you want about the present administration, they are collectively not stupid people. So if they're not stupid, and they're saying incredibly harmful things (potentially) to their cause, do they say these things because they've grown de-sensitized to the amount of media attention that they command, simply for being part of the administration?

In other words, are these mistakes from rookies that are happening with 9 months under their belts? Or is there a different agenda?  :confused:

I suppose could be more of case of the extreme arrogance that they have as well as taunting the media letting them know they own them.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: bkg on October 20, 2009, 03:13:21 PM

I've grown cynical. I think the cult of personality is exactly what a lot of people want in a President. Amazing what you can accomplish in < 40 years when you take over the educational system, eh? :(
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 03:20:49 PM
I suppose could be more of case of the extreme arrogance that they have as well as taunting the media letting them know they own them.

I think you are right Carl, it's extreme arrogance.

As things stand right now....there is nothing....nothing....that has been done in the last 9 months to give cause for impeachment.

Nor do I think there will be anything in the future.

Obama and his Merry Band of Idiots....will walk a very fine line to keep from stepping over the line to give the American Public any reason to impeach him.

Under those circumstances.....O and his MB of I WILL be able to continue on, just as they are, for the next 3 YEARS AND 3 MONTHS!!!!

As long as no one can PROVE any laws are broken....

THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE.....including rubbing the nose of MSM into the fact that they have been had.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Chris_ on October 20, 2009, 03:27:16 PM
Bingo, Deb. Excellent post. Why this critter would deliberately antagonize the entities that are literally providing her career is a real puzzler. One can rack it up to just plain stupidity, but I'm not buying that. Say what you want about the present administration, they are collectively not stupid people. So if they're not stupid, and they're saying incredibly harmful things (potentially) to their cause, do they say these things because they've grown de-sensitized to the amount of media attention that they command, simply for being part of the administration?

In other words, are these mistakes from rookies that are happening with 9 months under their belts? Or is there a different agenda?  :confused:

You've heard that the WH has leaked that Anita will be gone by the end of the year........she is out there as a sacrificial lamb for the most part, as the admministration will be able to dismiss her credibility.....pretty shrewd in my opinion......

She will likely then get a big contract as a pundit on CNN.......

doc
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Eupher on October 20, 2009, 03:29:07 PM
You've heard that the WH has leaked that Anita will be gone by the end of the year........she is out there as a sacrificial lamb for the most part, as the admministration will be able to dismiss her credibility.....pretty shrewd in my opinion......

She will likely then get a big contract as a pundit on CNN.......

doc

No, I hadn't heard that but it makes perfect sense. Thanks for the heads-up.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 03:29:38 PM
You've heard that the WH has leaked that Anita will be gone by the end of the year........she is out there as a sacrificial lamb for the most part, as the admministration will be able to dismiss her credibility.....pretty shrewd in my opinion......

She will likely then get a big contract as a pundit on CNN.......

doc


I heard something to that effect yesterday.

Even though the WH while try to dismiss her credibility...I wonder if the MSM will become hyper-vigilant to see if they are still being led by the nose?
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Chris_ on October 20, 2009, 03:42:55 PM

I heard something to that effect yesterday.

Even though the WH while try to dismiss her credibility...I wonder if the MSM will become hyper-vigilant to see if they are still being led by the nose?

You are kidding of course.......our MSM vigilant.....to this administration?

I suppose that it is possible, considering that they had to eventually even turn on Clinton........but it took them a year of making excuses for him and charges of impeachment for them to do so, so I don't expect them to turn on Obama anytime soon.

After all, he IS their messiah.....

doc
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 20, 2009, 03:53:45 PM
In all the coverage of Glenn Beck boycotts and the Limbaugh thing, never did the media mention Obama's 20-year membership in a racial hate group as an acolyte of the jeremiah Wright. It must have been written out of history already.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 04:08:34 PM
You are kidding of course.......our MSM vigilant.....to this administration?

I suppose that it is possible, considering that they had to eventually even turn on Clinton........but it took them a year of making excuses for him and charges of impeachment for them to do so, so I don't expect them to turn on Obama anytime soon.

After all, he IS their messiah.....

doc

No one has ever so blantantly said that their administration set out to control the press either.

While Clinton may have been the MSM's fair-haired boy.....and his people may have snowed the MSM on a regular basis....

NO ONE from Clinton's admin ever (that I can remember) publicly threw in the face of the MSM...that they'd been played almost from Day 1 of campaigning.

Dunn basically patted the MSN on the top of their pointy little heads and said "good boys and girls".....and stomped on their collective pride.

Might end up being just be like hitting the tail of a lion with a sledge hammer....
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Chris_ on October 20, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
No one has ever so blantantly said that their administration set out to control the press either.

While Clinton may have been the MSM's fair-haired boy.....and his people may have snowed the MSM on a regular basis....

NO ONE from Clinton's admin ever (that I can remember) publicly threw in the face of the MSM...that they'd been played almost from Day 1 of campaigning.

Dunn basically patted the MSN on the top of their pointy little heads and said "good boys and girls".....and stomped on their collective pride.

Might end up being just be like hitting the tail of a lion with a sledge hammer....

Well, the MSM are, in a very real sense "prostitutes"........you don't get much of a rise out of a whore by calling her one usually do you??

doc
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Eupher on October 20, 2009, 04:16:10 PM
Well, the MSM are, in a very real sense "prostitutes"........you don't get much of a rise out of a whore by calling her one usually do you??

doc

 :rotf: :lmao:

Beeee-yooooo-teeeee-fulllllllllll!!!111!!!
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
Well, the MSM are, in a very real sense "prostitutes"........you don't get much of a rise out of a whore by calling her one usually do you??

doc


Never thought of it that way....but then I don't think I've ever spoken to a prostitute.

I have however....spoken with several women who have been "trophies"....they don't really like having it pointed out to them... :uhsure:
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Chris_ on October 20, 2009, 04:33:33 PM

Never thought of it that way....but then I don't think I've ever spoken to a prostitute.

I have however....spoken with several women who have been "trophies"....they don't really like having it pointed out to them... :uhsure:

Methinks that you are assuming that members of the media labor under some standards of ethics and professionality........take it from someone that was in the TV business for a number of years........they have neither......

What kind of people would shove a camera and mic in the face of a grieving family that just lost a child to a drive-by.........I had a number of this type of scum in various stations that I've managed over the years, and generally fired them all........got me crappy ratings right along with it.......

Right at the top of the list of reasons why I am retired......

You shouldn't endow the MSM with the same standatds that you and I adhere to in our daily lives,  the definition of projection.

doc
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 04:38:18 PM
Methinks that you are assuming that members of the media labor under some standards of ethics and professionality........take it from someone that was in the TV business for a number of years........they have neither......

What kind of people would shove a camera and mic in the face of a grieving family that just lost a child to a drive-by.........I had a number of this type of scum in various stations that I've managed over the years, and generally fired them all........got me crappy ratings right along with it.......

Right at the top of the list of reasons why I am retired......

You shouldn't endow the MSM with the same standatds that you and I adhere to in our daily lives,  the definition of projection.

doc

Probably so.

But have you ever known a "screwer" to find out that they've been the "screwee"....and they just accepted it?

Let alone accept it when they find out that the one who made them the "screwee" ....told everyone else at the same time they let the "screwee" know it?
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 20, 2009, 04:40:32 PM
Keith Olberman made a joke about this yesterday.  He said "if FOX news is not really a news organization according to the Obama administration..then that means we're Number 1...YES WE CAN"
It was obvious sarcasm.  I wonder if KEIF will turn on them as well.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 20, 2009, 04:41:24 PM
Oh about 75 or 80 years ago some dude in Germany did pretty much the same thing for his leader.....left a pretty good mark on world history.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Chris_ on October 20, 2009, 04:45:35 PM
Probably so.

But have you ever known a "screwer" to find out that they've been the "screwee"....and they just accepted it?

Let alone accept it when they find out that the one who made them the "screwee" ....told everyone else at the same time they let the "screwee" know it?

Yeah.....been there, done that,,,,,,got the T-shirt, collected my paycheck, and went home.   Happens all the time.......

You have to understand that you are expecting a human reaction from a group of people that have no pride to begin with........if they get "used" by Obama, they consider it to be an enhancement to their collective resume'

It is just "airtime" to them.......

doc
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 20, 2009, 04:52:25 PM
Yeah.....been there, done that,,,,,,got the T-shirt, collected my paycheck, and went home.   Happens all the time.......

You have to understand that you are expecting a human reaction from a group of people that have no pride to begin with........if they get "used" by Obama, they consider it to be an enhancement to their collective resume'

It is just "airtime" to them.......

doc


Guess you have figured out it's not in my nature to be dishonest or a user...... :uhsure:
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Ptarmigan on October 20, 2009, 06:46:08 PM
Government media complex and divine rights of kings.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 20, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
No one has ever so blantantly said that their administration set out to control the press either.

While Clinton may have been the MSM's fair-haired boy.....and his people may have snowed the MSM on a regular basis....

NO ONE from Clinton's admin ever (that I can remember) publicly threw in the face of the MSM...that they'd been played almost from Day 1 of campaigning.

Dunn basically patted the MSN on the top of their pointy little heads and said "good boys and girls".....and stomped on their collective pride.

Might end up being just be like hitting the tail of a lion with a sledge hammer....

I think the one mistake everyone is making...is believing that the MSM was some how duped or tricked or manipulated in all of this.

I say it's actually quite the contrary.  They were/are willing accomplices in this whole mess.

The media and Liberals...and the ultra-leftists in this administration are fellow travelers all striving towards the same goal.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 20, 2009, 08:25:24 PM
Tapper: It’s escaped none of our notice that the White House has decided in the last few weeks to declare one of our sister organizations “not a news organization” and to tell the rest of us not to treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one –

(Crosstalk)

Gibbs: Jake, we render, we render an opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness that, the fairness of that coverage.

Tapper: But that’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they are “not a news organization.” How are they any different from, say –

Gibbs: ABC -

Tapper: ABC. MSNBC. Univision. I mean how are they any different?

Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight. Or 5 o’clock this afternoon.

Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programming or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying thousands of individuals who work for a media organization, do not work for a “news organization” -- why is that appropriate for the White House to say?

Gibbs: That’s our opinion.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/20/tapper-asks-gibbs-why-its-appropriate-white-house-decide-whos-news-or
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: USA4ME on October 20, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
I'd love to believe the press would be upset they were manipulated, but more than likely they'll just be in awe of how Dear Leader was able to force their willing hand to report the way he wanted them to report.  Cult followers like the MSM don't get upset when they've been used by those they like.

.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Duke Nukum on October 20, 2009, 10:28:04 PM
Tapper: It’s escaped none of our notice that the White House has decided in the last few weeks to declare one of our sister organizations “not a news organization” and to tell the rest of us not to treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one –

(Crosstalk)

Gibbs: Jake, we render, we render an opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness that, the fairness of that coverage.

Tapper: But that’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they are “not a news organization.” How are they any different from, say –

Gibbs: ABC -

Tapper: ABC. MSNBC. Univision. I mean how are they any different?

Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight. Or 5 o’clock this afternoon.

Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programming or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying thousands of individuals who work for a media organization, do not work for a “news organization” -- why is that appropriate for the White House to say?

Gibbs: That’s our opinion.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/20/tapper-asks-gibbs-why-its-appropriate-white-house-decide-whos-news-or
If it is the Obama Administrations opinion that FNC isn't a news organization, it is my opinion that the Obama Administration isn't and American organization.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Ree on October 20, 2009, 10:28:06 PM
This admin reminds me of children...They can't help but brag of all the shit they pulled...
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Airwolf on October 21, 2009, 12:18:30 AM
As crude and as rude as this saying is it fits 99% of the MSM.

"You can't rape the willing".
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Splashdown on October 21, 2009, 04:43:22 AM
It bothers and worries me that a member of this administration would say something so blatant. Why isn't anyone there worried about any public outcry?
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: NHSparky on October 21, 2009, 06:07:02 AM
It bothers and worries me that a member of this administration would say something so blatant. Why isn't anyone there worried about any public outcry?

Because they know the MSM won't carry it, and the majority of people in this country are sheep who still trust the media to tell the truth.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: ironhorsedriver on October 21, 2009, 07:52:46 AM
I would believe the MSM would be upset except for what happened just the other day. If you remember the duping of the media by the guy who said he represented the Chamber of Commerce and set up a press conference. He claimed the chamber was on board with Obama, blah, blah. Any how, the real Chamber showed up, showed the guy to be a fake, and invited those reporters to ask him or contact the chamber directly for the proper responses from the chamber. On tape, unbelievably, one of the reporters told the real guy to shut up, he had a deadline, so he was running with the fake story.
 These are the morons we get our news from.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: crockspot on October 21, 2009, 08:19:30 AM

Yep.


I can't help but think that Anita Dunn is going to be another nail in the Obama administration coffin.

She is basically coming right out and saying "the media is dumb, we manipulated them to do what we wanted them to do....and they did it."

While MSM might admit to a few mistakes.....they don't want it thrown up into their collective faces that they have been used, manipulated, abused.....by someone else.

They want to think that they are the ones doing the using, manipulating and abusing.

They want the general public to be the dumb ones....not themselves.

Anita Dunn may have been more effective than we are giving her credit.

She, and through her....the Obama administration.... may have just really pissed off the MSM....as it has now been blatantly admitted by Dunn  that they certainly pissed on the MSN.

No "reporter" ever wants to have to admit they have been duped....let alone have it known by anybody else.

You're giving the media too much credit. During that fake Chamber of Commerce press conference, the REAL spokesman for the Chamber of Commerce interrupted and tried to shut it down, and the reporters told him to shut up because they had a deadline to meet.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: dandi on October 21, 2009, 08:23:55 AM
Q:  What is the difference between a toilet and a Beltway "reporter"?

A:  The toilet won't follow you around after you've used it.


The useless media will never turn on THEIR messiah.  They made him too big to fail and they'll make sure that he doesn't, even if it means they lose everything.  If they turned on him, they'd have to admit they screwed the pooch and didn't do their "job"; just like they had to do with the Breck Girl.  None of these arrogant clowns will admit that.

To expect any different is to put traits on these whores that don't exist - honor, integrity, and dignity.  Those are things that are expected of the peons they preach at, not for them.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 21, 2009, 08:36:57 AM
I would believe the MSM would be upset except for what happened just the other day. If you remember the duping of the media by the guy who said he represented the Chamber of Commerce and set up a press conference. He claimed the chamber was on board with Obama, blah, blah. Any how, the real Chamber showed up, showed the guy to be a fake, and invited those reporters to ask him or contact the chamber directly for the proper responses from the chamber. On tape, unbelievably, one of the reporters told the real guy to shut up, he had a deadline, so he was running with the fake story.
 These are the morons we get our news from.

and they attack the internet for its lack of "gatekeepers"
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Eupher on October 21, 2009, 09:39:59 AM
Q:  What is the difference between a toilet and a Beltway "reporter"?

A:  The toilet won't follow you around after you've used it.


The useless media will never turn on THEIR messiah.  They made him too big to fail and they'll make sure that he doesn't, even if it means they lose everything.  If they turned on him, they'd have to admit they screwed the pooch and didn't do their "job"; just like they had to do with the Breck Girl.  None of these arrogant clowns will admit that.

To expect any different is to put traits on these whores that don't exist - honor, integrity, and dignity.  Those are things that are expected of the peons they preach at, not for them.

I'm a firm believer in the old adage, "Nobody is irreplaceable." While I agree with you that the MSM helped create Lord Zero's image, they weren't the only entities involved in that process.

The media, like all organizations, exists for and preserves itself first. Nothing is more important to the MSM than itself. And that includes Barack Hussein Obama.

These traits that you mention - honor, integrity and dignity - are not part and parcel to self-preservation. In fact, most of those traits dissipate when it's time to save one's ass.

The MSM turned on Slick Willie. I can see the same sort of thing happening. The degree to which the MSM turns on Lord Zero is a matter of debate, however.

Bottom line is, I've certainly read some disgruntled opinions from a number of people who otherwise worship Lord Zero. That's how it starts. I think it'll snowball and cascade, sort of like shit running downhill.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: dandi on October 21, 2009, 11:16:06 AM
The media, like all organizations, exists for and preserves itself first. Nothing is more important to the MSM than itself. And that includes Barack Hussein Obama.

These traits that you mention - honor, integrity and dignity - are not part and parcel to self-preservation. In fact, most of those traits dissipate when it's time to save one's ass.

I would be inclined to agree with you but the lamestream media has demonstrated time and again that they have no real interest in maintaining a business.  Any business model that operates on the basis that the consumer is too stupid to understand what is being sold will not operate forever.  When the lamestream media decides that business over idealogy is preferable, figures out the difference between reporting and opining, and how to do actual research then I may be more inclined to believe they are interested in self preservation.

Until then they will continue to push their crap at us, carry out hit jobs on any non-liberal opponent, lie, distort, propagandize, and tell us we're too dumb to "get it".  Same as it ever was until they finish cutting their own throats.

Honor, integrity, and dignity are actually very good business traits.  Smart consumers will only be lied and talked down to once.  Most businesses survive on repeat business and the only way to keep them coming back is to deal with people honestly and give them what they want.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: thundley4 on October 21, 2009, 11:19:28 AM
I would be inclined to agree with you but the lamestream media has demonstrated time and again that they have no real interest in maintaining a business.  Any business model that operates on the basis that the consumer is too stupid to understand what is being sold will not operate forever.  When the lamestream media decides that business over idealogy is preferable, figures out the difference between reporting and opining, and how to do actual research then I may be more inclined to believe they are interested in self preservation.

Until then they will continue to push their crap at us, carry out hit jobs on any non-liberal opponent, lie, distort, propagandize, and tell us we're too dumb to "get it".  Same as it ever was until they finish cutting their own throats.

Honor, integrity, and dignity are actually very good business traits.  Smart consumers will only be lied and talked down to once.  Most businesses survive on repeat business and the only way to keep them coming back is to deal with people honestly and give them what they want.

You may be right. The newspapers were just the first indication of a growing dislike for news having a bias.  We're seeing it more and more with the Big Three network news.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Eupher on October 21, 2009, 01:39:59 PM
I would be inclined to agree with you but the lamestream media has demonstrated time and again that they have no real interest in maintaining a business.  Any business model that operates on the basis that the consumer is too stupid to understand what is being sold will not operate forever.  When the lamestream media decides that business over idealogy is preferable, figures out the difference between reporting and opining, and how to do actual research then I may be more inclined to believe they are interested in self preservation.

Until then they will continue to push their crap at us, carry out hit jobs on any non-liberal opponent, lie, distort, propagandize, and tell us we're too dumb to "get it".  Same as it ever was until they finish cutting their own throats.
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You may be right in the sense that most of the MSM is part of a larger conglomerate - i.e., the alphabet soup of "primetime news broadcasts", Slime Warner, Newsweak (owned by the WaPo). They can run their "businesses" in virtually any fashion they like as long as the losses can be diluted through the larger balance sheets.

The same conglomerate leadership also is responsible to the shareholders. If the shareholders are perfectly fine with turds like MSNBC dropping into the toilet, then business performance doesn't really matter. They'll absorb the loss and continue to look like idiots.

Now that you mention it, liberal ideologies completely transcend sound business acumen.

Silly me.  :thatsright:   
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 21, 2009, 04:22:54 PM
You're giving the media too much credit. During that fake Chamber of Commerce press conference, the REAL spokesman for the Chamber of Commerce interrupted and tried to shut it down, and the reporters told him to shut up because they had a deadline to meet.

Not only that, but CNN invited the FAKE reporter the next day to promote his Global Warming bs.

I've watched CNN in the past, occasionally.  I never do anymore because THEY are not a credible news-source.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 22, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
Pres. Obama has described Fox News as "operating basically as a talk-radio format" rather than as a "news outlet."

When NBC's Savannah Guthrie raised [in a segment of her extended interview of the president aired on Today this morning] the issue of White House attacks on Fox News, PBO first tried to play the statesman, resorting to the old dodge about "the American people" being more interested in jobs and the situation in Afghanistan.

But when politely pressed, PBO didn't hesitate to fustigate Fox.

SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Another issue in the news is the news: we asked the president what he thinks about some of his advisers saying Fox News--known for conservative opinion--isn't really a news organization.

GUTHRIE: So you think it's appropriate for the White House to say what is and what is not a news organization?

BARACK OBAMA: I think the American people are a lot more interested in what we're doing to create jobs or handling the situation in Afghanistan.

GUTHRIE: Fair enough, but your advisers raised this issue.

OBAMA: Well, no, I think that what our advisers have simply said is that we are going to take the media as it comes. And if media is operating basically as a talk-radio format, then that's one thing, and if it's operating as a news outlet, then that's another.  But it's not something I'm losing a lot of sleep over.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/10/22/obama-fox-not-news-outlet
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 22, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
Pres. Obama has described Fox News as "operating basically as a talk-radio format" rather than as a "news outlet."

When NBC's Savannah Guthrie raised [in a segment of her extended interview of the president aired on Today this morning] the issue of White House attacks on Fox News, PBO first tried to play the statesman, resorting to the old dodge about "the American people" being more interested in jobs and the situation in Afghanistan.

But when politely pressed, PBO didn't hesitate to fustigate Fox.

SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: Another issue in the news is the news: we asked the president what he thinks about some of his advisers saying Fox News--known for conservative opinion--isn't really a news organization.

GUTHRIE: So you think it's appropriate for the White House to say what is and what is not a news organization?

BARACK OBAMA: I think the American people are a lot more interested in what we're doing to create jobs or handling the situation in Afghanistan.

GUTHRIE: Fair enough, but your advisers raised this issue.

OBAMA: Well, no, I think that what our advisers have simply said is that we are going to take the media as it comes. And if media is operating basically as a talk-radio format, then that's one thing, and if it's operating as a news outlet, then that's another.  But it's not something I'm losing a lot of sleep over.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/10/22/obama-fox-not-news-outlet


I saw this on Hannity's and Greta's repeats last night....

I thought he seemed incredibly arrogant....
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 22, 2009, 11:51:50 AM

I saw this on Hannity's and Greta's repeats last night....

I thought he seemed incredibly arrogant....

Seemed?  Everyday that goes by remoevs any remaining doubt about that IMHO
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 22, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
Seemed?  Everyday that goes by remoevs any remaining doubt about that IMHO


Uh...I was trying to be polite?  :innocent:
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 22, 2009, 12:18:18 PM

Uh...I was trying to be polite?  :innocent:

True.  I guess I need to try and be more that way myself.
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: debk on October 22, 2009, 12:29:46 PM
True.  I guess I need to try and be more that way myself.

I figure if some guy's getting arrested for making a comment at a coffee cart.... :uhsure:
Title: Re: Anita Dunn: How We Created Obama's Cult of Personality
Post by: TheSarge on October 22, 2009, 01:39:06 PM
I figure if some guy's getting arrested for making a comment at a coffee cart.... :uhsure:

LOL! Yeah it might very well be me  :-)