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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 14, 2009, 06:45:56 AM
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Oh my.
walnutpie (91 posts) Tue Oct-13-09 05:15 PM
Original message
Apartment residents told to take down U.S. flags
ALBANY, Ore. - At the Oaks Apartments in Albany, the management can fly their own flag advertising one and two bedroom apartments - but residents have been told they can't fly any flags at all.
Jim Clausen flies the American flag from the back of his motorcycle. He has a son in the military heading back to Iraq, and the flag - he said - is his way of showing support.
"This flag stands for all those people," said Clausen, an Oaks Apartment resident. "It stands for the people that can no longer stand - who died in wars. That's why I fly this flag."
Resident we talked to who had been approached to take down their flags all told us the same thing: that management told them the flags could be offensive because they live in a diverse community.
Read more: www.katu.com/news/local/64059697.html
Doug's ex-wife:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #3
38. I wonder if no flags, no signs in public areas, on windows, etc., is simply in the lease as it is in many apartment buildings and if the managers of this building just aren't very good at talking to reporters. Because that's what this story sounds like to me, a whole lotta nothing + two inarticulate people.
imdjh (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
45. I've lived in places that required only white curtain backings (liners whatever) and no personal...
... expression whatsoever on the building. You couldn't even dry beach towels on your deck or have an oil stain on your driveway.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. Exactly. I bet it's one of those deals but the reporter needed a "story".
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. Yeah, it sounds like the typical rightwing BS one hears in the DFW metroplex: here are some clues:
"McLucas said the supervisor who complained .. is .. from Africa"
"what other freedoms will I lose before all is said and done?"
"It's just restored my faith in the American people"
I've never been in a shared work space where one person put up their own fifteen square foot display. Usually, one tries to share the available space
drm604 (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 05:24 PM
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10. I smell bullshit also.
This is just too ridiculous. They can't fly the flag because they live in a diverse community? I suspect there's more to this story.
If it is true then it's probably just one wacky complex manager, but you can bet the right will make a huge deal out of this and try to paint the entire left with this one oddball incident.
democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. Read the story from the KATU website. That's exactly what it says & people in complex confirm.
Oregone (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. Flags are sometimes a bit tacky
So colonial looking
totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 05:43 PM
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22. The thing is, since President Obama I want to fly the flag again.
I didn't fly it during the shrub era.
ProudDad (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-14-09 01:37 AM
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59. Hey, it's their property, they can say what one can do with it if they wish...
Too damn many flags flying in the USAmerikan Empire anyway...
It's not like that in the civilized world...
mrbarber (491 posts) Wed Oct-14-09 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #59
62. WTF does that even mean? "Civilized world"?
Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-14-09 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. I read it as meaning that part of the world that has universal healthcare systems
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Well, I came to the end of that thread and what did I say? Oh for Christ's sake! I can offer no other comment.
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. Flags are sometimes a bit tacky
So colonial looking
Ah, it needs to be updated- like the Constitution.
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-14-09 01:37 AM
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59. Hey, it's their property, they can say what one can do with it if they wish...
Too damn many flags flying in the USAmerikan Empire anyway...
It's not like that in the civilized world...
I'm sure the DUmmy means places like Communist China.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3230289622_f4cd0f3cd7.jpg)
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His son is going back to Iraq for the THIRD time for **** sakes! The flag is flying from his damn VEHICLE not his apartment. It's not even there 24/7 because he uses his vehicle for transportation. Reporters in OR aren't exactly flag wavers. This isn't a reporter "looking" for a story. They do, however, love controversy (like most news in other places) and love these "little guy against the evil corporate overlords" kind of stories but the guy had to go to them. It's not like some reporter happened to be driving by while the guy was arguing with the manager. If the guy had the flag waving on his balcony or outside his front door I could see his point, but it's on his motorcycle. Besides, if their "diverse" tenants are that offended by seeing the flag of the country they happen to be living in (some probably actually sponging off of), perhaps they should consider moving to Venezuela or Cuba. Or maybe just head back to Mexico.
Cindie
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-13-09 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. Yeah, it sounds like the typical rightwing BS one hears in the DFW metroplex:
Uh, where are YOU hanging out?
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The DUchebags would be up in arms if they banned obama flags or that soviet style HOPE poster.
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The landlord people backed down. Turns out these actions are not legal. They also had to have their phone number cancelled.
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That thread over there made a turn toward the ludicrous. Apparently, two or more people have put each other on ignore, yet are trying to decipher what is being said by the others. A mild spat ensued. Silly primitives.
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This is a typical DUmp conversation:
Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-14-09 01:49 AM
61. SOMEONE TELL THE SECOND IGNORED PERSON
that I am still ignoring the first ignored person, if they are not ignoring this person themselves. Or something.
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This is a typical DUmp conversation:
great job of ignoring someone...