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Title: primitives discuss geographical propensities of diabetes
Post by: franksolich on October 13, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6763319

Oh my.

The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive:

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cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-13-09 07:03 AM
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Diabetes: A State-by-State Breakdown

Among Americans 30 and older, 13.7 percent of men and 11.9 percent of women have diabetes. Almost one-third of them have never received a diagnosis of the disease.

By applying statistical techniques to two databases, one with numbers gathered at the state level and the other national, researchers have arrived at what they believe are highly accurate estimates of prevalence, both diagnosed and not, in each state.

Colorado, Minnesota, Montana and Vermont have low rates, with Vermont the lowest at 6.1 percent for people 30 to 59 and 19.9 percent for people over 60. Southeastern states have the highest rates, and Mississippi, where 11.4 percent of people 30 to 59 and 27.7 percent of those over 60 are diabetic, has the highest of all.

“Visually it’s very clear what we found — the stark difference between the Southeast and the rest of the country,” said the lead author, Goodarz Danaei, a research fellow in epidemiology at Harvard. “The Southern States have a very dangerous aggregation of risk factors for heart disease: obesity, high blood pressure and diabetes.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/health/13stat.html

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cap (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-13-09 07:10 AM
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2. so... on the national plans, women in the North East are subsidizing the bad health of the folks in the South. Yup... let's do the "opt-out" by state of national health insurance. Go ahead and make my day.

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Kalyke  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-13-09 10:11 AM
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6. Sure... let all us liberal female Southerners just die.
 
When is DU going to learn that in order to convert people, one should talk WITH them, not AT them?

Probably never.

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Maine-ah  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-13-09 07:43 AM
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3. I wonder if any of the rates have something to do with the fact that many older people from the north retire to the south....aka snowbirds.

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TicketyBoo (221 posts)       Tue Oct-13-09 07:53 AM
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4. I wonder if southern cooking has something to do with it, as well as the possibility that people further north may have a higher metabolism due to colder weather.

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watrwefitinfor  (867 posts)      Tue Oct-13-09 10:09 AM
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5. Coca Cola. Pepsi. RC Coca Cola. Orange Crush. Doctor Pepper. Mountain Dew!

Folks down here can't seem to live without 'em. And ALL are full of High Fructose Corn Syrup now.

My 40 something year old family member was diagnosed as diabetic two years ago. Dr. told him he couldn't live without insulin. He finally quit drinking the Pepsi, and within two weeks his blood sugar was normal. Has been ever since.

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Kalyke  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-13-09 10:13 AM
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7. Most of those drinks were invented in the South.

They've been here longer than anywhere else.

That said, I was born and raised in the South and, with the exception of fried chicken and scratch biscuits, I hate Southern food.

I eat like I'm from the Middle East: no pork, lots of spices, fresh v*****s, etc.

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Kalyke  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-13-09 10:17 AM
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9. Not really.

Most people don't have time to cook all those rich Southern foods anymore.

Our biggest problem here is low wages and fast food. Foods that are the least healthy for us are also the cheapest.

And one's metabolism is an individual thing. Sure, you can boost it with diet and exercise, but one's natural metabolism is determined genetically. Location has little to do with it. For example, think of all those large (obese) Soviet citizens who live in the frozen tundra.

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raccoon  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-13-09 10:15 AM
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8. I wonder if hot climate causes diabetes, and if one lives in a cooler climate, one is less likely to develop it?
Title: Re: primitives discuss geographical propensities of diabetes
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 13, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
The "opt out" thing is dumb. We pay for it, just get nothing back.
Title: Re: primitives discuss geographical propensities of diabetes
Post by: DixieBelle on October 13, 2009, 12:01:14 PM
Ruh Roh. When DUmmies collide. :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss geographical propensities of diabetes
Post by: GOBUCKS on October 13, 2009, 12:34:40 PM
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watrwefitinfor  (867 posts)      Tue Oct-13-09 10:09 AM
My 40 something year old family member was diagnosed as diabetic two years ago. Dr. told him he couldn't live without insulin. He finally quit drinking the Pepsi, and within two weeks his blood sugar was normal. Has been ever since.

Sometimes we ignore DUmmies at our own peril. In this case, had you simply written off DUmmy watrwefitinfor as a typical lying DUmmy spinning a lame bouncy tale, you would have missed out on a cure for diabetes.

The for-profit medical industry will probably try to suppress this information.

It will likely be the preferred treatment from your socialist O-doc.
Title: Re: primitives discuss geographical propensities of diabetes
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 13, 2009, 01:48:11 PM
And the southeast has the largest number of dark skinned, foodstamp using, welfare getting bunch of democrat voters in the nation....now the dims want to kill them and you just know who's going to get the blame.

Quota's and affirmative action....I'm all for sharing our darker citizens with the DUmmie blue states and seeing how the numbers stack up then....or we just do the study by individual races.

OK, so I'm soooooooo Racist.....but it makes sense to me.