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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Chris_ on October 12, 2009, 08:09:01 AM
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Fox’s Volley With Obama Intensifying
Attacking the news media is a time-honored White House tactic but to an unusual degree, the Obama administration has narrowed its sights to one specific organization, the Fox News Channel, calling it, in essence, part of the political opposition.
“We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,†said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. “As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.â€
Her comments are only the latest in the volatile exchange between the administration and the top-rated network, which is owned by the News Corporation, controlled by Rupert Murdoch. Last month, Roger Ailes, the chairman of Fox News, and David Axelrod, a senior adviser to President Obama, met for coffee in New York, in what Politico, which last week broke that news, labeled a “Fox summit.â€
While neither party has said what was discussed, some have speculated that a truce, or at least an adjustment in tone, was at issue. (Mr. Ailes and Mr. Obama reportedly reached a temporary accord after a meeting in mid-2008.) But shots are still being fired, which animates the idea that both sides see benefits in the feud.
Fox seems to relish the controversy.
“Instead of governing, the White House continues to be in campaign mode, and Fox News is the target of their attack mentality,†Michael Clemente, the channel’s senior vice president for news, said in a statement on Sunday. “Perhaps the energy would be better spent on the critical issues that voters are worried about.â€
:popcorn: :-)
MORE (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all)
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White House Says Fox Is Not A News Network
"I think what is fair to say about FOX and certainly the way we view it is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party...[When President Obama] goes on FOX, he understands that he is not going on -- it really is not a news network at this point. He's going to debate the opposition."
So said White House communications director Anita Dunn on Sunday's "Reliable Sources" in what appeared to be an extension of her shameful attack on Fox reported by NewsBusters' Lachlan Markay Thursday.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/11/white-house-says-fox-not-news-network
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White House Says Fox Is Not A News Network
"I think what is fair to say about FOX and certainly the way we view it is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party...[When President Obama] goes on FOX, he understands that he is not going on -- it really is not a news network at this point. He's going to debate the opposition."
So said White House communications director Anita Dunn on Sunday's "Reliable Sources" in what appeared to be an extension of her shameful attack on Fox reported by NewsBusters' Lachlan Markay Thursday.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/11/white-house-says-fox-not-news-network
"When he goes on Fox"....... the (http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1040766867845&id=8d4944ae8f5172c46fe051c135549e2a&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.yingswingsthings.com%2fimages%2fchicken.jpg)......won't go on Fox......
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What a joke this administration is. They go after the only voice of unbiased news , simply because Fox is unwilling to bend over for 0Bama like the other networks. Fox is not a news network because they refuse to accept the word of this administration and they look for other sources of information. Maybe it would be different if Hannity or O'Reilly felt a tingle in their leg once in awhile.
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What a joke this administration is. They go after the only voice of unbiased news , simply because Fox is unwilling to bend over for 0Bama like the other networks. Fox is not a news network because they refuse to accept the word of this administration and they look for other sources of information. Maybe it would be different if Hannity or O'Reilly felt a tingle in their leg once in awhile.
So CNN can fact-check a comedy skit on SNL that makes fun of the jug-eared Kenyan, Chrissy Matthews can get all tingly just thinking about Barack Hussein Obama, and MSNBC hosts can refer to him as "sort of God," but Fox is the obviously the problem here. :whatever:
I'm so sick of our country and the Presidential Office being mocked by this baby boy campaigner-in-chief. What a ****ing loser.
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Instead of calling Fox names and trying to make them irrelevant, why not prove them wrong? :uhsure:
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Instead of calling Fox names and trying to make them irrelevant, why not prove them wrong? :uhsure:
They are obviously wrong if they disagree with anything that Lord Zero says.
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Mr. Obama's cult of personality carries on.
Imagine the outrage had President Bush done the same thing to MS-NBC.
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Mr. Obama's cult of personality carries on.
Imagine the outrage had President Bush done the same thing to MS-NBC.
I think Bush just won the election and then tried to run the country. Obama has won the election and is already campaigning for the next one. But his reactions to Fox News are the same reactions all liberals have when someone disagrees. Kinda sad.
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The Administration flacks sense they are in trouble and are lashing out at the biggest, closest target. But, Fox is only responding to what people want, which is less about how many unicorns are on the way from National Barak Channel, PMS-NBC, the All-Barak Channel, See-BS, the Washington Posterboy, and the New York Slimes ('All the news we see fit to print'). Fox would stop in a minute if it wasn't what people wanted to hear, and that fact is why the papers are dying and Fox is kicking the ass of all the broadcast media. The (Comparative) aggressiveness of Fox News and its success are a symptom, not the disease.
Odd that they aren't objecting to all the bias in those other media, innit?
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Odd that they aren't objecting to all the bias in those other media, innit?
It's not bias when it is The Truth according to Dear Leader.
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I think Bush just won the election and then tried to run the country. Obama has won the election and is already campaigning for the next one. But his reactions to Fox News are the same reactions all liberals have when someone disagrees. Kinda sad.
I don't even think he is campaigning for the next, I think he just doesn't know how to do anything other than campaigning and voting "present" between campaigns. Since he can't vote "present" now, it has to be campaign.
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But, Fox is only responding to what people want, which is less about how many unicorns are on the way from National Barak Channel, PMS-NBC, the All-Barak Channel, See-BS, the Washington Posterboy, and the New York Slimes ('All the news we see fit to print').
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Cable News Ratings for Friday, October 9, 2009
Posted on 12 October 2009 by Bill Gorman
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for October 9, 2009
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,397,000 viewers
CNN – 487,000 viewers
MSNBC –393,000 viewers
CNBC – 171,000 viewers
HLN – 283397,000 viewers
5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,588,000 viewers (662,000) (1,191,000)
Situation Room—663,000 viewers (151,000) (259,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—555,000 viewers (174,000) (283,000)
Fast Money—159,000 viewers (a scratch w/50,000) (90,000)
Prime News–285,000 viewers (107,000) (166,000)
6PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report with Bret Baier– 2,038,000 viewers (470,000) (927,000)
Situation Room—521,000 viewers (142,000) (216,000)
Ed Show—566,000 viewers (162,000) (289,000)
Mad Money —145,000 viewers (a scratch w/32,000) (102,000)
Prime News — 241,000 viewers (100,000) (141,000)
7PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The Fox Report w/ Shep –1,854,000viewers (373,000) (721,000)
Lou Dobbs Tonight—532,000 viewers (119,000) (201,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews—597,000 viewers (169,000) (310,000)
Kudlow Report —129,000 viewers (a scratch w/48,000) (81,000)
Issues– 392,000 viewers (122,000) (179,000)
8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 3,125,000 viewers (825,000) (1,334,000)
Campbell Brown – 609,000 viewers (149,000) (224,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 958,000 viewers (304,000) (454,000)
Fast Money– a scratch w/88,000 viewers (a scratch w/31,000) (a scratch w/49,000)
Options Action– a scratch w/72,000 viewers (a scratch w/27,000) (a scratch w/39,000)
Nancy Grace – 703,000 viewers (200,000) (353,000)
9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity –2,066,000 viewers (562,000) (889,000)
Larry King Live —607,000 viewers (181,000) (232,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —896,000 viewers (266,000) (401,000)
The Suze Orman Show. – 187,000 viewers (82,000) (75,000)
Joy Behar- 515,000 viewers (173,000) (233,000)
10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On The Record w/ Greta Van Susteren —1,706,000 viewers (498,000) (809,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 —531,000 viewers (167,000) (250,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 593,000 viewers (249,000) (350,000)
American Greed – 205,000 viewers (108,000) (116,000)
Nancy Grace –480,000 viewers (198,000) (265,000)
11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor —1,554,000 viewers (513,000) (827,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 —464,000 viewers (192,000) (243,000)
Rachel Maddow Show —471,000 viewers (183,000) (246,000)
Mad Money – a scratch w/104,000 viewers (a scratch w/51,000) (79,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 421,000 viewers (212,000) (254,000)
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'Nuff said.
SOURCE (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/12/cable-news-ratings-for-friday-october-9-2009/30247#more-30247)
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Even Fox News "Redeye" is gaining in popularity and getting respectable rating compared with the other cable network news shows.
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I just wish "Redeye" didn't come on so late here on the east coast. 0300? sheesh. But I can catch it on the weekends.
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I just wish "Redeye" didn't come on so late here on the east coast. 0300? sheesh. But I can catch it on the weekends.
I kind of wish they would put together a "Best of Redeye" each week and air it earlier on Saturday or Sunday. Make it an hour or hour and half long.
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I kind of wish they would put together a "Best of Redeye" each week and air it earlier on Saturday or Sunday. Make it an hour or hour and half long.
Yeah what you said
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I am glad FOX is not bowing down to the Zero and standing up and giving a true account of the news
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The ratings speak for themselves.....suck it Bronze boy!
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I think Bush just won the election and then tried to run the country. Obama has won the election and is already campaigning for the next one. But his reactions to Fox News are the same reactions all liberals have when someone disagrees. Kinda sad.
Which stands to reason since most of his staff is Clinton retreads who had Billy Jeff doing the exact same thing for 8 years.
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Lord help us all if we have to deal; with the Zero for 4 more years
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Are you guys for real? Much as I'd prefer a strong President for the country's sake, this blundering idiot is ruining himself at every turn. Potshots at entertainers and news networks? From a sitting President??? :loser:
Say what you want about Bush, the high ground was all his on this front. He never thought to enter the fray in the peanut gallery like the jug-eared Kenyan has done and continues to do. Obama looks like an incompetent, over-zealous egomaniac daily. Let him blubber all he wants about Fox's big bad mouthpiece. You know Fox is loving it all the way to the bank.
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Even Fox News "Redeye" is gaining in popularity and getting respectable rating compared with the other cable network news shows.
I can do without redeye. That show is so homoerotic. I can do without a host who introduces his male guests with suggesting he wants to blow them, has a fruity monologue, and "Male" time.
And I don't care if Greg says he is married, he's obviously a flaming homo or bisexual, along with his newspaper playing co-host.
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PARANOIA ALERT: Journalists have 1st amendment rights.
The WH is running around claiming Fox isn't a journalistic outfit.
Will the WH be seeking to use the FCC/SEC to "regulate" a for-profit non-journalism business venture?
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I can do without redeye. That show is so homoerotic. I can do without a host who introduces his male guests with suggesting he wants to blow them, has a fruity monologue, and "Male" time.
And I don't care if Greg says he is married, he's obviously a flaming homo or bisexual, along with his newspaper playing co-host.
HAve you seen the way he interacts with the women on the show? I doubt that he's gay, but does know how to make fun of people.
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PARANOIA ALERT: Journalists have 1st amendment rights.
The WH is running around claiming Fox isn't a journalistic outfit.
Will the WH be seeking to use the FCC/SEC to "regulate" a for-profit non-journalism business venture?
The worst that the WH could do would be to remove their press credentials, but then that would leave the true biased networks open to the same treatment when a conservative regains the office. There isn't much the FCC can do to a cable network, is there?
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The worst that the WH could do would be to remove their press credentials, but then that would leave the true biased networks open to the same treatment when a conservative regains the office. There isn't much the FCC can do to a cable network, is there?
Well, Obama has already said it refuses to do interviews with Fox for at least the rest of the year so revoking their credentials isn't too out of the realm of possibility.
As for how a conservative president might treat the liberal MSM remember Alinsky's rules for radicals: make the enemy live up to his moral code while you do as you please. In other words, they'll grouse if a conservative president banishes liberal stations while giving Fox the finger.
What this will do is put the rest of the nets on notice that unless Obama gets the coverage the WH wants to see they too could be frozen out.
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What this will do is put the rest of the nets on notice that unless Obama gets the coverage the WH wants to see they too could be frozen out.
Which will mean that there will be even less criticism from the other networks about Dear Leader, and Saturday Night Live will have to drop the sketches making fun of Lord Zero.
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Which will mean that there will be even less criticism from the other networks about Dear Leader, and Saturday Night Live will have to drop the sketches making fun of Lord Zero.
Well, if the other nets decide to tow the line and sing naught but choral praises for fear of excommunication then any criticism that does come from other sources can be waved away as, "pay no heed to those fringe elements, the consensus says I'm right."
We would be fools to assume Obama and his crew are stupid.
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Well, if the other nets decide to tow the line and sing naught but choral praises for fear of excommunication then any criticism that does come from other sources can be waved away as, "pay no heed to those fringe elements, the consensus says I'm right."
We would be fools to assume Obama and his crew are stupid.
You raise a good point, but I also think Obama & Company blew their loads early on that little meme.
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HAve you seen the way he interacts with the women on the show? I doubt that he's gay, but does know how to make fun of people.
Gay men have a way with women. I am positive he is bisexual at the very least. A lot of gay people get married, you would be surprised.
If I'm up at 3am, I gotta turn off fox. I get really grossed out by the endless homoerotic innuendos.
Why are so many people in denial that Greg Gutfeld and his newspaper playing boy toy are not gay?
It's so freakin' obvious. And why does Fox News, a center right news network have a gay show on 3am???
Despite the endless homoerotic innuendos of "packing" and "blowing" his guests, Greg occassionaly talks about his "latin boy toys" that he has at his house. How much more gay proof do people need? "Male time" and rainbow gregalogues?
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Gay men have a way with women. I am positive he is bisexual at the very least. A lot of gay people get married, you would be surprised.
If I'm up at 3am, I gotta turn off fox. I get really grossed out by the endless homoerotic innuendos.
Why are so many people in denial that Greg Gutfeld and his newspaper playing boy toy are not gay?
It's so freakin' obvious. And why does Fox News, a center right news network have a gay show on 3am???
Maybe I'm just not that intolerant of people. I also watch Graham Norton on BBC America. He's a flamer but his show and guests are usually hilarious, much like Redeye is.
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Maybe I'm just not that intolerant of people. I also watch Graham Norton on BBC America. He's a flamer but his show and guests are usually hilarious, much like Redeye is.
oh I'm not homophobic at all. I'm just shocked about the denial people have about greg + partner not being gay.
I've talked about this before on another forum and was amazed how many people were not convinced he was gay.
And I am heterosexual enough to be grossed out by homoerotic content.
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Note to Obama administration...don't pick fights with people who buy their ink by the barrel.
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Which will mean that there will be even less criticism from the other networks about Dear Leader, and Saturday Night Live will have to drop the sketches making fun of Lord Zero.
Was there another SNL sketch last weekend? I caught the opening sketch the week before.
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Was there another SNL sketch last weekend? I caught the opening sketch the week before.
I thought they did one making fun of the Nobel piece Prize. I'm not sure since I haven't watched the show in years.
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I thought they did one making fun of the Nobel piece Prize. I'm not sure since I haven't watched the show in years.
They did. It was pretty funny... Obama won the Powerball lottery.
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They did. It was pretty funny... Obama won the Powerball lottery.
Nice. :evillaugh: I'll have to find it later.
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Nice. :evillaugh: I'll have to find it later.
I get this from youtube when I clicked on the Saturday Night Live Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize video link. http://www.youtube.com/results?orig_query=SNL+nobel&search_query=snl+nobel+peace+prize&orig_query_src=4&ytsession=WMaDPIL0iSB6Qj-2jFyhJreYV8fwUyY5gpNSIMw_EyIYuhgyScefA6sfsAjYCdns4DA3w2n8SYZddlGj3mnAEDrhwvn93YHO_84_j0qo3P6m0IAgh3Lbm0W1SLDf0m4P7R3borSXfLfVr6SAQjVy8wKjtPCAs9MtqjDaMG6rehs-sFelcaCOHBDlY1JaVUtFTs9Qn5Z6MYwq-tF75c7QbJxt9ZMXeem_cRVYV-ORETfUKdz75KZnxqEcJtzE3m--K7ni2qWkFZG1_IO_oCWf_AF-3ZkwO2NXSoUorKv-rIgRm8KFw8ivNOoRaTrDM9pUmVeXiktbI4ku0TStfQYbC0m_EG6ZNC01eiJRy59Lmb5Ni8CBPA9vOKSKwoA91Kmb
This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions.
You can watch it on NBC.com. http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/powerball-cold-open/1165585/
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Gay men have a way with women. I am positive he is bisexual at the very least. A lot of gay people get married, you would be surprised.
If I'm up at 3am, I gotta turn off fox. I get really grossed out by the endless homoerotic innuendos.
Why are so many people in denial that Greg Gutfeld and his newspaper playing boy toy are not gay?
It's so freakin' obvious. And why does Fox News, a center right news network have a gay show on 3am???
Despite the endless homoerotic innuendos of "packing" and "blowing" his guests, Greg occassionaly talks about his "latin boy toys" that he has at his house. How much more gay proof do people need? "Male time" and rainbow gregalogues?
I don't think it's a question of denial....more that those watching, just don't care if Greg is gay or not.
I enjoy the show, but only watch it if I'm up working.
It's on at 3AM because of the content....however, I would not consider it to be a "gay show".
Gay or not....Greg seems to be more politically conservative than liberal.
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Thinking about this today, it really isn't that surprising that he would be lashing out and trying to delegitamize Fox News. Anyone else remember him asking why all the Soldiers were watching Fox, and being told that that's the channel that was chosen for this time slot, he asked "is that the CINC's choice?" I have the feeling that he was worried then about the fact that Fox would be the only outlet that would do their job and he wanted to keep the Soldiers from hearing the truth about him.
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Thinking about this today, it really isn't that surprising that he would be lashing out and trying to delegitamize Fox News. Anyone else remember him asking why all the Soldiers were watching Fox, and being told that that's the channel that was chosen for this time slot, he asked "is that the CINC's choice?" I have the feeling that he was worried then about the fact that Fox would be the only outlet that would do their job and he wanted to keep the Soldiers from hearing the truth about him.
Too late. We already know.
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I don't think it's a question of denial....more that those watching, just don't care if Greg is gay or not.
I enjoy the show, but only watch it if I'm up working.
It's on at 3AM because of the content....however, I would not consider it to be a "gay show".
Gay or not....Greg seems to be more politically conservative than liberal.
I watch it on occasion (it's on earlier here in CA) and I think it is pretty damn funny. I don't care if he is gay or not.