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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Attero Dominatus on March 01, 2008, 12:26:40 PM
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 11:53 AM
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Where were you when we invaded Iraq?
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I couldn't even tell you what time of year or what year without looking it up. I've had a busy few years - rough job, out of work, working nights forever, out of work again - so it all tends to blur. I do remember this:
- Watching the war get approved with no visible opposition. I remembered the fight over George Bush Senior's war and was appalled at the fact that George Junior got his war so easily.
- Wondering why no one was paying attention to the people asking what we were going to do with Iraq if we "won"
- Watching in horror as the US Army went in on a front 4 lanes wide and 300 miles long. I probably have the distances wrong, but the mad dash to Baghdad looked like a perfect set-up for getting troops cut off, surrounded and cut to pieces
- Watching the triumph when we took Baghdad, followed by where-in-the-world is Saddam? combined with labeling Iraqi patriots as insurgents.
-Watching as no WMD ever turned up, but horribly burned and mutilated people, both military and civilian, did.
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**** you, you al queda-loving piece of scum.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 11:59 AM
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1. Just as with the assassination of JFK I will always remember exactly Updated at 5:02 PM
where I was and what I was doing. At my desk, posting at DU.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:04 PM
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3. We had the worst blizzard in CO that we'd seen in decades. The roof at DIA started ripping open,
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 12:04 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
the city was buried, with more roofs collapsing on buildings everywhere.
However, I was still upset that we preemptively attacked another county and I still remember my horrified disgust at the looting, especially the Museum of the Antiquities, whose curators had begged that they receive some protection were the troops to come into Baghdad.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:07 PM
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4. I forgot about the looting. It didn't make sense to be told that we were in charge
when museums were being looted.
One thing I've never figured out is this: Given how fast we advanced, how much of the infrastructure did we blow up and why?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:09 PM
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5. watching the "shock and awe" on the TV
live... thinking about how many are "dead", and thinking how different it was from GWI... the Iraqis couldn't defend themselves at all. It was like watching the neighborhood bully beat up on the crippled guy in the wheel chair. I felt sick.
And all the while I was thinking "why are we doing this?" I figured that if there were any WMDs, they would be leftovers from the 1980s, and that Saddam would never admit that he DIDN'T have them, because that would not be "macho". And I remember thinking that this was going to be bad. That the Shia would take decades of persecution out on their Sunni neighbors...
And I knew also that the 9/11 attackers didn't come from Iraq. I kept thinking "why this place? why now?".
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:24 PM
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9. Do you remember the Highway of Death from the first Gulf War?
I thought that burning up retreating troops like that was a war crime. I say "burning" because I think we mostly used incendiary bombs on them.
I also seem to be the only one who ever noticed that we kept bombing Iraq back during the CLinton administration.
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The people we bombed in the "Highway of Death" were monsters who raped, pillaged, plundered and murdered people in Kuwait.
LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM
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15. The Basra Highway massacre was a heinous war crime committed by the US & UK.
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM by LynnTheDem
Equally as sickening a war crime was the US burying lines of Iraqi troops alive.
Funny how most Americans don't know anything about these facts. Most also don't know that the vote for Poppa bUsh's war passed by 3 votes...all due to the absolutely sick lie of the "incubator babies".
Ya really wonder why they hate us, America??!
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:18 PM
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7. I remember the run up to the war
Sitting in my neighborhood bar, half drunk, loudly complaining to everyone in the bar that Bush was a liar, there were no WMD, and invading Iraq would lead us into a quagmire lasting years.
So how come a half-drunk, uninformed peon like me could get it right from the beginning, but all the political elites and politicians got it completely wrong?
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At least try to put a little more effort into your bouncies.
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:49 PM
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12. I was standing on a street corner with a sign Updated at 11:23 AM
that said "No blood for oil," dodging missiles thrown from passing cars and trucks, and smiling and waving at guys screaming "We need war!" as they drove by. There were also plenty of people who ducked their heads at the red light, then flashed a quick peace sign as they quickly drove away.
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Zero bongs.
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when museums were being looted.
The museum looting in Iraq was a false rumor, much like the rape gangs of the Superdome.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 11:53 AM
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Where were you when we invaded Iraq?
Sitting in a barracks room at Ft. Riley, Kansas wishing like HELL I was there thinking of all the killer video I was missing out on.
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I was watching the news when Ari announced our attempt to take out the leadership the first evening.
My exact thoughts I don`t remember other then being glad we were finally taking steps to help establish a pro western,pro humanity country in the middle east.
It won`t be quick or perfect but it still is better then the alternative of throwing our hands up saying "they don`t want democracy" crap that has allowed centuries of inhumanity and despotisim to reign.
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Here is an all time fav from the past.
LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM
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15. The Basra Highway massacre was a heinous war crime committed by the US & UK.
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM by LynnTheDem
Equally as sickening a war crime was the US burying lines of Iraqi troops alive.
Funny how most Americans don't know anything about these facts. Most also don't know that the vote for Poppa bUsh's war passed by 3 votes...all due to the absolutely sick lie of the "incubator babies".
Ya really wonder why they hate us, America??!
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How can anyone be so retarded? Those Iraqi troops were given plenty of notice when the leaflets dropped telling them to surrender days befor the invasion of Kuwait kicked off. Anyone stupid enough to sit in a bunker or foxhole while a tank rolls over them needed to be weeded out of the gene pool.
The Basra Highway wasn't planned to happen. It was just something that happened alot of those vehicles were stolen from their owners in Kuwait along with the cargo inside of them. The Iraqis made their graves they should live with the consequnce of their desicion to invade with I believe was helped along by some female left leaning Diplomant that made her own decision to tell Saddam that we would not stop him from taking over Kuwait. Sorry Lynn the Dumbass but as usual your facts and your ass are stuck in the same location
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It should also be noted that it was President Bush 41 that halted military actions in the first gulf war becuase it had become a killing field where the soldiers had surrendered while the government (Sadaam) had not.
He wouldn`t slaughter them.
What is the thanks he gets from DUmmies....attacks for not finishing the battle (how ironic that one) and leaving Sadaam in power (honoring a sacred UN requirement).
These people are never to be trusted.
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It should also be noted that it was President Bush 41 that halted military actions in the first gulf war becuase it had become a killing field where the soldiers had surrendered while the government (Sadaam) had not.
He wouldn`t slaughter them.
What is the thanks he gets from DUmmies....attacks for not finishing the battle (how ironic that one) and leaving Sadaam in power (honoring a sacred UN requirement).
These people are never to be trusted.
Its their ignorant thoughts that should serve as an example to anone as to why they can't be trusted with anything more important then a lemonade stand.
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I was sitting in front of a huge TV screen at the OTB Teletheater in Albany NY, with my coworkers from my lab, as it was the first day of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. We had the games on the little screens around the movie-theater sized main screen, which had the live feed from Baghdad. The sound on the main one was up, too. We had near-IMAX sound.
That was the year that Syracuse won the whole thing, making me think that The End Days were near. (My wife picked them in the pool I ran, too, and she still hasn't let me forget it.)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Mar-01-08 12:49 PM
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12. I was standing on a street corner with a sign Updated at 11:23 AM
that said "No blood for oil," dodging missiles thrown from passing cars and trucks, and smiling and waving at guys screaming "We need war!" as they drove by. There were also plenty of people who ducked their heads at the red light, then flashed a quick peace sign as they quickly drove away.
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They are sooooo brave. :whatever:
KC
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The loser wolf primative proves my theory that the DUmmies won't stop protesting what our military is doing if the troops leave Iraq.
If this jackass was standing on a street corner with that sign on the night we crossed the berm into Iraq...the logical conclusion is his protest before the moment combat began in Iraq...was against our actions in Afghanistan.
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The loser wolf primative proves my theory that the DUmmies won't stop protesting what our military is doing if the troops leave Iraq.
If this jackass was standing on a street corner with that sign on the night we crossed the berm into Iraq...the logical conclusion is his protest before the moment combat began in Iraq...was against our actions in Afghanistan.
It all depends on the letter after the name of the occupant in the White House.
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Waiting for an alert order to go help invade Iraq.
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Where were you when we invaded Iraq?
MCAS New River, having just returned from Afghanistan. By 2004, I was invading Iraq, too. Crushing my enemies and driving them before me, and reveling in the lamentations of their women. :cheersmate:
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I remember being really nervous that day, nervous that the umbrella-carrying appeasers would at the last minute stop a job that had to be done, and a job that should have been started months and months earlier.
I recall that the standard Democrat, liberal, and primitive complaint was about "rushing into war."
I dunno.
September 11, 2001 was September 11, 2001.
The liberation of Iraq began in March 2003.
That was, what, a year and a half "rushing" into war?
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I remember being really nervous that day, nervous that the umbrella-carrying appeasers would at the last minute stop a job that had to be done, and a job that should have been started months and months earlier.
I recall that the standard Democrat, liberal, and primitive complaint was about "rushing into war."
I dunno.
September 11, 2001 was September 11, 2001.
The liberation of Iraq began in March 2003.
That was, what, a year and a half "rushing" into war?
Frank the sad fact is...that there is not a set time that the Dummies wouldn't say is rushing into war.
We could have just kicked off the invasion last month to oust Saddam and they STILL would have said we were rushing things.
These were the same people that said we should look inward for the causes of 9/11 before we made a snap judgement and attacked Afghanistan.
When it boils down to it...these type of people are more interested in defending the bad people of the world than they are the safety of their fellow citizens.
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Taking advice from the loser lefties over at the DUmp on military matters would have any sane person give pause enough to question the intellegence of the person seeking their help. We already know that its fruitless for them to be talking about the military since they have no idea WTF they are saying and even when they try it's filled with lies and distortions. If they truely cared about the trops they could as least push for victory and whine about the cost,causes later.
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And another thing, DUchebags . . . according to the bogus NIE that was released not too long ago, Iran stopped their nuclear program in May of 2003. I wonder why . . . :thatsright:
Not to mention, Libya, who came clean on their nuclear program (which no one, not even the Egyptians, knew about), had its nuclear materials sent to Oak Ridge TN.
Two nuclear programs (well, one, actually) stopped by the invasion of Iraq. And, it was accidentally disclosed by the New York Times in late 2006, in an attempt to discredit President Bush, that Saddam's nuclear program could build a nuclear weapon within a year of being restarted.
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And another thing, DUchebags . . . according to the bogus NIE that was released not too long ago, Iran stopped their nuclear program in May of 2003. I wonder why . . . :thatsright:
Not to mention, Libya, who came clean on their nuclear program (which no one, not even the Egyptians, knew about), had its nuclear materials sent to Oak Ridge TN.
Two nuclear programs (well, one, actually) stopped by the invasion of Iraq. And, it was accidentally disclosed by the New York Times in late 2006, in an attempt to discredit President Bush, that Saddam's nuclear program could build a nuclear weapon within a year of being restarted.
Those are incovenient little facts neighbor.
Primitives can`t be bothered with stuff like that,it might get in the way of their beliefs.
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I was eating lunch at the club at Moody AFB