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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: BlueStateSaint on October 06, 2009, 05:30:33 AM
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This showed up in Sunday's Washington Times.
The coming war with Iran
Real question is not if, but when
By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
War with Iran is now inevitable. The only question is: Will it happen sooner or later? Tehran's recent missile tests and war games suggest that the apocalyptic mullahs have reached the same conclusion.
Iran is on the march. Their medium-range Shahab-3 and Sajjil missiles can reach Israel, the entire Middle East and parts of Europe. Tehran is slowing expanding its regional sphere of influence. It has backed insurgency groups in Iraq, which have killed U.S. soldiers. It sponsors Hamas and Hezbollah. It has transformed Syria into a political vassal. It has forged an alliance with Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. It has purchased key air defense systems from Vladimir Putin's Russia.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust-denier and virulent anti-Semite. He is a Persian Nazi strongman who vows to wipe Israel "off the map." He is a revolutionary Shi'ite. He believes the Jews must be extinguished in order to usher the coming of the Shi'ite Messiah, the so-called "Hidden Imam."
For years, the fascist theocracy has invested considerable resources into developing a clandestine nuclear weapons program. Mr. Ahmadinejad insists Tehran only wants atomic energy for "peaceful purposes." Yet, he cannot answer one simple question: Why does a country with the world's second-largest natural gas reserves and third-largest oil supply need domestic nuclear power?
Moreover, Mr. Ahmadinejad is a congenital liar. He repeatedly insists that Iran is a "democracy." Rather, it is a brutal police state based on rigged elections and the torture and murder of dissidents. He claims that Iran has "no homosexuals" and that women are treated "fairly." In fact, the Islamist regime routinely executes gays and subjugates women. He says Iran has "nothing to hide" about its nuclear program. The West, however, recently discovered a hidden, underground facility near the holy city of Qom capable of producing highly enriched uranium for weapons-grade nuclear material.
It's heady stuff, but nothing that we already didn't know.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/04/the-coming-war-with-iran/#
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What will Obama do when Ahmadinejad attacks Israel? Take a few weeks to think it over?
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What will Obama do when Ahmadinejad attacks Israel? Take a few weeks to think it over?
No he is going to blame it on Bush don't you know EVERYTHING is his fault? :sarcasm:
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What will Obama do when Ahmadinejad attacks Israel? Take a few weeks to think it over?
It would not surprise me if Obama issued orders to the American forces in Iraq to actively resist any Israeli attack on Iran. Whether or not the commanders actually follow said orders--well, they're professionals, but I'm sure that they could find something "to the letter" and not "to the spirit" of the orders.
'Course, then what we have is a situation where a coup could take place. :o :o :o
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Obama would condemn Israel, if he's true to form. it will take being shamed, to get anything from him. Then he'll say he had to take time to think it through properly.
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Obama would condemn Israel, if he's true to form. it will take being shamed, to get anything from him. Then he'll say he had to take time to think it through properly.
I was going to say the exact same thing!
ironically that when it comes to anything but domestic terrorism (what I believe this administration is committing, economically at least), he doesn't need to think through anything... "The time to act is NOW!" :whatever: :whatever:
I'm not big on applying Revolations to modern times... but damn if some of this crap isn't spooky.
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It would not surprise me if Obama issued orders to the American forces in Iraq to actively resist any Israeli attack on Iran. Whether or not the commanders actually follow said orders--well, they're professionals, but I'm sure that they could find something "to the letter" and not "to the spirit" of the orders.
'Course, then what we have is a situation where a coup could take place. :o :o :o
I don't think Obama would have our troops fight Israeli troops. He's not that insane. He's not that insane he's not that insane oh god how I hope he's not that insane.
American soldiers refusing orders would pretty much destabilize our entire country. If the military suddenly decided they're in charge, we've got a dictatorship on our hands ousting a democratically elected president. I would seriously flee the country. It would only be a matter of time before nukes started flying. The government would do whatever it takes to maintain power.
I think the most likely scenario is that Israel finally gets fed up with Iran and starts launching airstrikes. Iran starts to retaliate against Israel, Europe, and American troops in Iraq, so America joins in on the ass-kicking. A land invasion is doubtful, we lack the troop capacity to invade and occupy yet another country, and this one is more densely populated than Iraq. We just don't have the manpower for another full scale conflict.
I seem to remember a fairly recent president cutting back the military a lot... just can't seem to remember which party he belonged to. :banghead:
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We're not a democracy.
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We're not a democracy.
We never have been, and hopefully never will be.
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Oh I have no problem remembering who gutted the military. I'll lay odds the Hildabeast doesn't either!
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Oh I have no problem remembering who gutted the military. I'll lay odds the Hildabeast doesn't either!
I sit here with the rain pounding on the windows. My cupboards are full of food and the oil tank filled------WHAT ME WORRY
Looking around my home I find things never imagined in my parents time as a kid, microwave. huge TV screen, Cable and PC. I have 2 cars in the yard and a dishwasher.
I have medical insurance that has saved my life a few times, I have heat or cooling at the touch of a button.
So I have worked in factory's and for subcontractors for the military or in Nursing my whole life, all ways started at minimun wage and worked up. Some how in the past 20 some odd years life and savings gave us a few toys, an incentive to work harder.
There was all ways the incentive to work harder and longer, stash away extra money in 401K and savings accounts. Pay off the credit cards a week after using and have a dream of future travels and the good life.
For me this is all gone. Out of the blue I now have a medical problem that means I must stop working at what I was trained for, Somewhere along the line without me noticing I got older, everyone around me became younger by 10 years or even 20.
The Police Men became very young, my doctor didn't look a day over 25, I found that a night on the town I was the eldest in any bar or dance club.
A war with Iran is not the biggest problem I have as an old lady. Wars have come and gone in my life time, the Korean war that at no time interfeared in my life, Nam that took the lives of my class mates, all the other not called wars that took out a few in my family.
Adapt or die is told to us in school. So I am trying to learn enough Spanish to know what is going on when I am in a nursing home. I am trying to get to know the woman of Islam to have some idea what will happen before I go into HAPPY VALLEY.
Unfortunately it is difficult to adapt to this new America that is in need of a good dose of Viagra. I was raised in a world of male hormones, men who went with the protective mode.
Today the males are getting their balls from a pill and it wears off too soon for them to become the men they were.
We have to face the fact that with woman's lib we have taken the men who go to war, protect us and help us raise their children into a zone where they run from us and kids in fear.
Iran is a different matter, the Muslams are family oriented and have few needs for man hood from a pill. While the American men run from their responsibility's of raising their children, those in Iran are talking to and teaching their children in their heritage.
Big problem here, can a society that allows and encourages parents to walk away from their children be as powerfull as a society that demands the parents to teach their children and obey the law.?
Don't forget these kids of Iran will grow up to follow the footsteps of their parents while our kids learn to run for the hills when life gets a bit hard for them.
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You need to ask yourself why American men, on the whole, need to get their "balls" from a pill. I have my suspicions as to the "WHY". There are a few major reasons, IMO.
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It would not surprise me if Obama issued orders to the American forces in Iraq to actively resist any Israeli attack on Iran. Whether or not the commanders actually follow said orders--well, they're professionals, but I'm sure that they could find something "to the letter" and not "to the spirit" of the orders.
'Course, then what we have is a situation where a coup could take place. :o :o :o
Works for me.
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Don't forget these kids of Iran will grow up to follow the footsteps of their parents while our kids learn to run for the hills when life gets a bit hard for them.
You really don't know much about what you call "Red Neck Land", or the "Red States", do you, butt nugget?
My kids were never taught to run! They were taught to fight! Right along with 98% of the parents who live around me. You're talking about worthless liberal asshats like yourself. Never, and I mean never, lump our children in with the scum that inhabit your flimsy little world!
If it weren't for the "Red Necks" as you call them, America would have died during the Nam protest era. It's fish like you that are willing to go belly up at the first sign of adversity that will kill this country! You just keep thinking the same way, butt nugget. Sooner or later you are going to find out why America was founded and learn of the Patriots willing to keep her alive! As long as you leave us alone, and don't tax us into oblivion, we're a pretty mellow bunch. Piss us off, and you will get the hot end of the iron!
I've seen you post half intelligent, Red Blooded American rhetoric on this forum, then you go and blow every bit of cred you gained by making some ridiculous piece of trash comment. What the hell, are you bi-polar or what?
ESAD you un-American POS!
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