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The Bar => Sports => Topic started by: ReardenSteel on February 29, 2008, 05:13:29 PM
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Yeah woo!
Football is back. Well, sort of. It's free agency time folks and that's the most excitement we can expect till April's draft.
Link to Philly's big move...
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The Eagles have signed free-agent cornerback Asante Samuel.
The Eagles agreed to a six-year contract on Friday with Samuel, who spent the last five seasons with New England and had 16 interceptions the last two years.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7856010/Eagles-sign-free-agent-CB-Samuel-to-6-year-deal
Here is some general FA blogging...
Free-Agent Blog: The latest buzz(by Alex Marvez)
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7852370
- FOXSports.com has confirmed the Bengals acquired nose tackle Shaun Rogers in a Friday trade with Detroit. Compensation wasn't immediately known.
- The Dallas Morning News reported that the Cowboys have traded defensive tackle Jason Ferguson to Miami.
- FOXSports.com has learned Oakland's Josh McCown has agreed to a two-year, $6.25 million contract with the Dolphins. McCown will receive a $2.5 million signing bonus.
- FOXSports.com has learned that Carolina traded the defensive tackle (Kris Jenkins) to the New York Jets for third- and fifth-round draft picks.
- Redskins re-sign QB Collins
There are also rumors and news about who is visiting whom and when and why. (see the link)
My Seahawks got a big visit from TE Alge Crumpler and could really use him. Sadly, they are in at least a 3 way race and a tight cap. (since they franchised Trufant for a 9.5M hit)
Hey good luck all. May your teams get better. Are you ready for some football!!!! :hyper: (talk) :-)
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Anderson, Browns agree on deal
Cleveland Browns quarterback Derek Anderson wasn't a free agent for long.
Anderson has agreed to a multiyear contract to stay with the Browns...
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7854312/Anderson,-Browns-agree-on-deal
Jags sign Porter, trade for Williamson
The Jaguars signed free agent Jerry Porter to a six-year, $30 million deal Friday and completed a trade for former first-round draft pick Troy Williamson.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7855764/Jags-sign-Porter,-trade-for-Williamson
Vikes add two players, woo Berrian
EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) - The Minnesota Vikings had an active first day in free agency on Friday, agreeing to terms on contracts with fullback Thomas Tapeh and safety Madieu Williams and hosting wide receiver Bernard Berrian for an official visit.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7855814/Vikes-woo-Berrian,-add-FB-Tapeh-and-S-Williams
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AAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! :censored:
Dome Improvement: Brown Signs With Rams
In a move speculated since Friday morning and confirmed by the team’s official website, the St. Louis Rams, Seattle’s key division rival, have signed free agent kicker Josh Brown to a contract. Terms are undisclosed at this time.
http://sea.scout.com/2/733287.html
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I had heard from the resident Buffalo Bills nut, where I work, that they made some move (signing an FA), but I'm too lazy to look it up . . .
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I had heard from the resident Buffalo Bills nut, where I work, that they made some move (signing an FA), but I'm too lazy to look it up . . .
Bills reach deal with free-agent LB Mitchell
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) - Linebacker Kawika Mitchell signed a five-year contract with the Buffalo Bills on Friday, cashing in on the first day of NFL free agency after playing for the Super Bowl champion New York Giants.
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That Shaun Rogers signing may keep Justin Smith from packing it up.
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That Shaun Rogers signing may keep Justin Smith from packing it up.
I spoke to soon. :banghead:
Cincy deal fizzles...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/29/rogers.trade.ap/index.html
DETROIT (AP) -- The Detroit Lions traded Shaun Rogers to the Cleveland Browns instead of dealing him to the Cincinnati Bengals, a person familiar with the moves told The Associated Press.
The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity Friday night because the Lions and Browns were not commenting on the trade, said Detroit acquired cornerback Leigh Bodden and a third-round pick from Cleveland after the deal with Cincinnati fell through.
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I had heard from the resident Buffalo Bills nut, where I work, that they made some move (signing an FA), but I'm too lazy to look it up . . .
Bills reach deal with free-agent LB Mitchell
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) - Linebacker Kawika Mitchell signed a five-year contract with the Buffalo Bills on Friday, cashing in on the first day of NFL free agency after playing for the Super Bowl champion New York Giants.
Thank you, RS. (Oh--said Bills nut is also a borderline moonbat, but he's fun to mock--and he taught me a lot about real estate appraisal, so I do have to put up with his Bills rants.)
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Lito Sheppard is available for anyone who wants to trade us a receiver. :popcorn:
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We just got ourselves a good pass rusher, too. :popcorn:
Eagles sign defensive end Chris Clemons
COMPILED BY THE INQUIRER STAFF
The Eagles today signed free agent defenseive end Chris Clemons to a five-year contract.
The 26-year-old Clemons registered a career-high eight sacks for the Oakland Raiders in 2007 despite being on the field for just 37 percent of the team's defensive plays. His sack total tied for the team lead with Derrick Burgess. Clemons, who played in all 16 games (two starts) for Oakland, also added 20 tackles, 13 knockdowns, 8 hurries, and two forced fumbles.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080301_Eagles_sign_defensive_end_Chris_Clemons.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080301_Eagles_sign_defensive_end_Chris_Clemons.html)
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We just got ourselves a good pass rusher, too. :popcorn:
Eagles sign defensive end Chris Clemons
COMPILED BY THE INQUIRER STAFF
The Eagles today signed free agent defenseive end Chris Clemons to a five-year contract.
The 26-year-old Clemons registered a career-high eight sacks for the Oakland Raiders in 2007 despite being on the field for just 37 percent of the team's defensive plays. His sack total tied for the team lead with Derrick Burgess. Clemons, who played in all 16 games (two starts) for Oakland, also added 20 tackles, 13 knockdowns, 8 hurries, and two forced fumbles.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080301_Eagles_sign_defensive_end_Chris_Clemons.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080301_Eagles_sign_defensive_end_Chris_Clemons.html)
Now all you need is a good QB, RB, o-line, d-line and DBs.
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We just got ourselves a good pass rusher, too. :popcorn:
Eagles sign defensive end Chris Clemons
COMPILED BY THE INQUIRER STAFF
The Eagles today signed free agent defenseive end Chris Clemons to a five-year contract.
The 26-year-old Clemons registered a career-high eight sacks for the Oakland Raiders in 2007 despite being on the field for just 37 percent of the team's defensive plays. His sack total tied for the team lead with Derrick Burgess. Clemons, who played in all 16 games (two starts) for Oakland, also added 20 tackles, 13 knockdowns, 8 hurries, and two forced fumbles.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080301_Eagles_sign_defensive_end_Chris_Clemons.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20080301_Eagles_sign_defensive_end_Chris_Clemons.html)
Now all you need is a good QB, RB, o-line, d-line and DBs.
:bawl: Maybe one day we'll have a Pro-Bowler.
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- San Francisco has agreed to terms with defensive end Justin Smith on a six-year deal.
- Bills acquire DT Stroud in trade with Jacksonville
- Jets, free-agent left guard Alan Faneca agree to terms on 5-year, $40 million deal
- The Vikings have come to terms on a six-year deal with Bernard Berrian
FWIW, I getting this stuff from mostly two pages...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/wires/
and
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7855498/Free-Agent-Central:-Who's-leaving,-who's-staying?
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- Briggs agrees to $36 million, 6-year deal with Bears
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- Browns sign Ex-Pat WR Stallworth to seven-year deal (3y, 24M)
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10679485
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- Michael Turner, considered perhaps the top running back available in free agency, has agreed to a six-year deal with the Atlanta Falcons. (Fox Sports) *on edit- Warrick Dunn was released
- Randall Gay to sign with Saints (Sports Illustrated)
- Saints sign DE McCray to 5-year deal (Fox Sports)
- (rumor) some dude at the Seahawks board I go to says FA TE Alge Crumpler signed with the Titans over my Hawks. :bawl: Well, there's always the draft. :p
Well we are getting down to it. Lots of stars are gone and it's a pretty small year anywho FA talent-wise. (teams are getting better at keeping their own talent with the rise of the salary cap each year) There are still trades and deals to be worked out for franchise tagged players and Big Dog WR Randy Moss and the Pats have yet to make a deal. Still, I expect things to slow down some.
Bring on the draft!
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Granted this in not free agency news per se, but it's big news about a "Big" ($100M big) QB who will not be a FA till 2015.
Steelers give Big Ben $102M extension
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7866918/Steelers-give-Big-Ben-$102M-extension
Congrats Ben.
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Granted this in not free agency news per se, but it's big news about a "Big" ($100M big) QB who will not be a FA till 2015.
Steelers give Big Ben $102M extension
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7866918/Steelers-give-Big-Ben-$102M-extension
Congrats Ben.
Pittsburghers do love them their Ben.
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Granted this in not free agency news per se, but it's big news about a "Big" ($100M big) QB who will not be a FA till 2015.
Steelers give Big Ben $102M extension
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7866918/Steelers-give-Big-Ben-$102M-extension
Congrats Ben.
Pittsburghers do love them their Ben.
No doubt. As a Seahawks fan who watched Pitt beat my guys in the SB and a Cincinnati dwelling Bengals supporter I've always loved to hate the Steelers myself, lol.
But I do love football and football history so I hate to report some sad news for Pittsburgh fans. (really all football fans) Broadcaster of 35 years, Myron Cope has passed on. Cope invented "The Terrible Towel'', and was a writer too. RIP sir and prayers to the family.
Here is Peter King on Myron Cope from his "10 things I think I think" weekly...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/03/02/cleveland/3.html
5. I think what made the late Pittsburgh legend Myron Cope so special was his skill as a writer, as a broadcaster and as a charismatic teller of tales. I'm so sad he's dead. I can't tell you how many times our night at my in-laws in Dormont, a Pittsburgh suburb, would center around Myron's talk show, when he'd greet callers with, "What's on your cranium?''
He'd say two or three things nightly that taught you something you didn't know, that made you laugh out loud and that caused me to think how lucky my in-laws were to hear this genuine person every night FOR FREE! He'd bring out his shirtpocket notes (his words for newsgathering), and talk about the Clevebronnies (the Cleveland Browns), the Cincy Bungles (you can figure that one out) or Emperor Chaz (Chuck Noll), and if he didn't agree with a caller to his show, he'd label the opinion "gorgonzola'' and move on.
When I started covering football games in Pittsburgh, I made sure I packed a small radio each time I had a Steeler assignment. I wasn't a very hospitable neighbor in the Three Rivers press box, because I put my headphones on and listened to every word of the radio team -- lasting even to the time when I'd walk to my car and want to know what Myron was saying postgame. This happened occasionally in press boxes, but it was an every-time occurrence when I had the Steelers at home.
Dan Rooney used to get a great kick out of it when I'd tell him my father-in-law had two traditions on Sunday afternoons: 1) the Terrible Towel would find its way to the rabbit ears on his TV (Cable? We don't need no stinkin' cable) for every game, for luck, and 2) Myron on the radio would be turned up and the TV voices would be turned down ... EVERY week.
I firmly believe there was no voice as identifiable with his team as Cope was with the Steelers, ever -- not Vin Scully, not Ernie Harwell, not Mel Allen, not Johnny Most.
Finally, the man could write, and he was most proud of that. The managing editor who hired me at Sports Illustrated, Mark Mulvoy, also loved Myron's writing and he told me Saturday night: "What I liked about Myron the most was he wrote like he talked." How many people can you say that about? That's a hell of a gift. It was not the most elegant prose, but it was pointed and meaningful. He was the voice of Pittsburgh, and so few cities had a voice as distinctive as him.
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oops, the rest from page two.
Peter King cont...
I wrote the forward for an SI book, "Great Football Writing,'' a couple of years ago, and was wowed by the vivid simplicity of Myron's writing. Upon visiting Slingin' Sammy Baugh at his Texas ranch in 1969, Cope wrote:
"He came to the door wearing blue jeans and a Western-style shirt of country-store quality. There was a Gary Cooper flavor to his appearance. Six-feet-two and rawboned, he was a leathery man with hips that were remarkably lean. At 55, he weighed only 170 pounds -- at least five pounds under his playing weight. But incongruously -- and perhaps partly because he wore bedroom slippers -- he walked with the sort of swishing gait associated with chorus boys.''
How good is that? In September 2006, a year after retiring, he wrote me a handwritten two-page letter after I'd written in a preface to an SI football anthology, "Boy, could Myron write!'' His note, in part, read:
"Dear Pete,
"Please forgive my longhand. Health issues have made it difficult to keep punching the Hermes 3000 [typewriter], which served me well for more than 40 years.
"Anyhow, Dr. King, the best medicine I have received was coming upon your verdict in the SI anthology intro: ' ... boy, could he write.' What a rush! Thanks ever so much.
"... Again, thanks. Occupants of Cloud Nine had to make room for me.''
Now they're really making room for him.
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Falcons sign Michael Turner....
Falcons sign prized RB Turner
Former Chargers rusher gets six-year deal
By STEVE WYCHE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/02/08
The Falcons signed Michael Turner, a free-agent running back from San Diego, to a six-year contract Sunday. In doing so, they landed the player it desperately sought to bolster their running game. Atlanta also signed Tennessee free-agent tight end Ben Hartsock to a four-year, $9 million contract with $2.25 guaranteed.
The Falcons have signed their five immediate targets since free-agency began Friday. Quarterback Chris Redman re-signed for two years and defensive backs Erik Coleman (N.Y. Jets) and Von Hutchins (Houston) signed four-year deals.
Turner, though, was the biggest catch. The 5-foot-10, 237-pounder was considered the best free-agent running back available. His age (26), experience (four years), bruising style and game-breaking speed fit what the new coaching staff desires.
"Given coach [Mike] Smith's and [offensive coordinator] Mike Mularkey's system, as far as being very strong up the middle, we believe that Michael Turner was the best fit to add that one-two punch with Jerious Norwood," first-time general manager Thomas Dimitroff said. "We felt this big back, at 230-pounds plus, would offer us the opportunity to pound it inside and be a very nice complement to Norwood."
For the first time in a while, they act like they want to build a winner. :hyper:
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Falcons sign Michael Turner....
For the first time in a while, they act like they want to build a winner. :hyper:
I'm curious what they will do with the 3rd pick in the draft. I bet the Cowboys would trade up to grab McFadden and the Falcons could get two first round picks. (they have the holes to fill, lol)
Also here to report (though for the record I had already noted the Turner signing :uhsure: ) that Moss has agreed to a 3 year deal with the Pats and may sign today. Brady's a happy guy.
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story?id=09000d5d807016ab&template=without-video&confirm=true
The Patriots and free agent wide receiver Randy Moss agreed to a three-year, $27 million contract on Monday, reports NFL Network's Adam Schefter.
The two sides are reviewing the contract, which is expected to be signed today.
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Moss did sign today. (F'in Pat's, lol)
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/wires/
- Jets stay busy by signing linebacker Calvin Pace and offensive lineman Damien Woody
Pace, Arizona's first-round pick in 2003, signed a six-year, $42 million deal that included a $20 million signing bonus. The deal for Woody, also a former first-rounder of New England, is reportedly for five years, $25 million.
- Broncos sign 2 free agents, agree to deal with DE Ekuban
DENVER (AP) -The Denver Broncos didn't take long to fill the spots left by the releases of Javon Walker and Ian Gold, signing receiver Keary Colbert and linebacker Niko Koutouvides to deals Monday.
The team also re-signed defensive end Ebenezer Ekuban, who missed all of last season after rupturing his right Achilles' tendon in a preseason game against Dallas.
- Defensive end joins Bengals for 5-year, $29.5 million deal
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -Defensive end Antwan Odom signed a five-year deal worth $29.5 million Monday night with the Cincinnati Bengals, according to his agent.
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- Raiders agree to deal with WR Walker
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7875822/Report:-Raiders-agree-to-deal-with-WR-Walker-
Oakland has reportedly agreed to a deal with former Packer and Bronco receiver Javon Walker, according to a report on the San Francisco Chronicle's Web site.
The report cites league sources, and says the deal is for six years and $55 million, including $16 million in guaranteed money.
- Seahawks Sign T.J. Duckett
http://sea.scout.com/2/734575.html
Michael David Smith of Football Outsiders, AOL and Pro Football Talk is a longtime Lions fan. He had this to say about Mr. Duckett:
Duckett played very well in the Mike Martz offense. Although he's known as a 250-pound bruiser, I was impressed with his quickness as well as his power. He showed good vision for finding holes and was faster in the open field than I had expected him to be. I don't think Duckett is ever going to be a 20-carry-a-game featured back, but for five or 10 carries a game, I like him a lot.
- Seahawks sign TE Jeb Putzier
:yawn:
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Seahawks signed Julius Jones. That is good for the Cowboys to have that tackling dummy out of the backfield to make room for more of Marion the Barberian.
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Seahawks signed Julius Jones. That is good for the Cowboys to have that tackling dummy out of the backfield to make room for more of Marion the Barberian.
I'm OK with the move, not thrilled.
I do feel a lot better about Seattle's run game this comming season as a whole though. New RG Wahle, new RB TJ Duckett for the short yardage they can't seem to convert since Hutchenson left, and the new O-line coach they grabbed from KC. Julius Jones though? Meh. There is some positive news there. Jones and Alexander, I think are about equal (these days anyway) as far as pure running goes. (tackling dummy is a pretty fair synopsis) But, Jones is younger, way cheaper and can catch out of the backfield better than Shaun so I gotta like that. (what with Seattle missing out on Crumpler)
Russert has set up the Hawks to draft the "Best Player Available" with good depth at O-line, stop gap TE and RB's TJ, Julius and MoMo. Dallas on the other hand must grab a RB on day one of the draft for depth. (which is fine for them as it's a deep RB pool and I think they have an extra pick anywho) I'd call that a win/win.
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Seahawks signed Julius Jones. That is good for the Cowboys to have that tackling dummy out of the backfield to make room for more of Marion the Barberian.
I'm OK with the move, not thrilled.
I do feel a lot better about Seattle's run game this comming season as a whole though. New RG Wahle, new RB TJ Duckett for the short yardage they can't seem to convert since Hutchenson left, and the new O-line coach they grabbed from KC. Julius Jones though? Meh. There is some positive news there. Jones and Alexander, I think are about equal (these days anyway) as far as pure running goes. (tackling dummy is a pretty fair synopsis) But, Jones is younger, way cheaper and can catch out of the backfield better than Shaun so I gotta like that. (what with Seattle missing out on Crumpler)
Russert has set up the Hawks to draft the "Best Player Available" with good depth at O-line, stop gap TE and RB's TJ, Julius and MoMo. Dallas on the other hand must grab a RB on day one of the draft for depth. (which is fine for them as it's a deep RB pool and I think they have an extra pick anywho) I'd call that a win/win.
Yep, I think Felix Jones just got a lot more realistic in the 2nd Round for the Cowboys.
ETA: Wahle should be able to sure up that leftside a bit which has lacked since Hutch became a Viking.
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Seahawks signed Julius Jones. That is good for the Cowboys to have that tackling dummy out of the backfield to make room for more of Marion the Barberian.
I'm OK with the move, not thrilled.
I do feel a lot better about Seattle's run game this comming season as a whole though. New RG Wahle, new RB TJ Duckett for the short yardage they can't seem to convert since Hutchenson left, and the new O-line coach they grabbed from KC. Julius Jones though? Meh. There is some positive news there. Jones and Alexander, I think are about equal (these days anyway) as far as pure running goes. (tackling dummy is a pretty fair synopsis) But, Jones is younger, way cheaper and can catch out of the backfield better than Shaun so I gotta like that. (what with Seattle missing out on Crumpler)
Russert has set up the Hawks to draft the "Best Player Available" with good depth at O-line, stop gap TE and RB's TJ, Julius and MoMo. Dallas on the other hand must grab a RB on day one of the draft for depth. (which is fine for them as it's a deep RB pool and I think they have an extra pick anywho) I'd call that a win/win.
THERE YOU ARE STEEL !!!...
man I missed you playoff time & now w/ F/A !!!
well, remember when I told you signing Alexander for everything & the kitchen sink was a mistake 2 years ago...
what do you say now ??.....
and yeah, adding duckett & jones won't do a thing for your offense, unless you get better blocking & a deep passing threat.... ....
alexander will get traded to the broncos, chargers or chiefs perhaps??
and yeah, next year could be the cowboys year since they'll have two 1st round picks & theres at least 5 top running backs in their reach.....(mcfadden paired up w/ Barber is downright scary)
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as to the Pats dumping assante samuel ...
things to know about samuel:
#1. he was a mini T.O. & heldout last year, missing all of training camp & preseason...
#2. he DROPPED the game winning INT in the superbowl
#3. only 1 of his 8 INTs last season came from a real good team & that was against the hobbled chargers in the AFC championship ...all the rest came from backup QB's from the likes of the Bills & Eagles, plus the bengals, redskins & browns....
#4. the pats philosophy on defense, is pay the guys from the LOS on back, so their money/focus is on their Dline first....same goes for the Giants & their 2ndary SUCKED ....
bottomline is, the Pats will be as good or better next year w/out samuel, whereas the iggles just screwed the pooch because their problem wasn't really defense, but is offense... & now they're 60 million more in the hole
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THERE YOU ARE STEEL !!!...
man I missed you playoff time & now w/ F/A !!!
Yeah! Long time no see. Always love the sportstalk man. Welcome.
well, remember when I told you signing Alexander for everything & the kitchen sink was a mistake 2 years ago...
No.
what do you say now ??.....
You were right. :lmao: (I do remember talking about Shaun's contract in the past some now that ya mention it)
and yeah, adding duckett & jones won't do a thing for your offense, unless you get better blocking & a deep passing threat.... ....
We will have better blocking. Wahle was a good signing as was keeping locklear on the team. New O-line coach will help too. We are hurting at WR but Hass keeps getting better every year.
alexander will get traded to the broncos, chargers or chiefs perhaps??
IF he restuctures his contract, LOL. In his defense the line has been troubled for 2 years and he's been hurt each of the last 2 years as well. He might still be pretty good, at least for another year or two. (though never 2005 good, and not "worth his contract" good)
and yeah, next year could be the cowboys year since they'll have two 1st round picks & theres at least 5 top running backs in their reach.....(mcfadden paired up w/ Barber is downright scary)
They need another RB for sure. As well as help at CB and some youth at WR. But yeah, they will be good and good in a tough as Hell division too.
JCC- "as to the Pats dumping assante samuel ..."
Pats will be great again but better? No way. (though their div. is crap so... playoff bound)
I agree D starts up front but Samuel has been pretty good for years. He's not "shutdown" but he is elite. NE's secondary will suffer w/o him. Meh, who cares when you play the Bills, Dolphins and Jets twice a year. :-)
Your right about the market for CB's though. (f'n 9ers and their Clements deal) On that note will someone please tell Seattle's Marcus Trufant that he is not Champ Bailey or Darell Green!
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the Pats will be better, heres why:
#1. their 1st dound draft choice is gonna be a GAME CHANGING defensive end. Add Cedric Ellis, Chris Long, Vernon Gholston or Glenn Dorsey to their wilfork, seymour, warren, green rotation, and IT WILL NOT MATTER WHO IS in THEIR 2ndary... their 2ndary will stil lbe good because of coaching...
#2. Adialius Thomas will move back to MLB & they'll have some speed & some youth to replace bruschi/seau/colvin w/ TJ Slaughter & a draft pick...
#3. 1 more year w/ Brady/Moss/Welker will see them more comfortable w/ each other
#4- sammy morris will be back at runing back & they'll pick up a 2nd round OT to help out that Oline
#5- they'll have dave thomas back at TE too (lost all year to injury last season)
their division will be better, they will lose 3-4 games, but they will be a stronger team & w/out injuries this time, they'll win the SB
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the Pats will be better, heres why:
#1. their 1st dound draft choice is gonna be a GAME CHANGING defensive end. Add Cedric Ellis, Chris Long, Vernon Gholston or Glenn Dorsey to their wilfork, seymour, warren, green rotation, and IT WILL NOT MATTER WHO IS in THEIR 2ndary... their 2ndary will stil lbe good because of coaching...
#2. Adialius Thomas will move back to MLB & they'll have some speed & some youth to replace bruschi/seau/colvin w/ TJ Slaughter & a draft pick...
#3. 1 more year w/ Brady/Moss will see them more comfortable w/ each other
#4- sammy morris will be back at runing back & they'll pick up a 2nd round OT to help out that Oline
#5- they'll have dave thomas back at TE too (lost all year to injury last season)
their division will be better, they will lose 3-4 games, but they will be a stronger team & w/out injuries this time, they'll win the SB
Who do you expect them to take with their 2nd first round pick? :tongue:
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as to Seattles running game...
I'm still not thinking a former starter for the cowboys is gonna do any better than the 500 yards he got running for them ...
seriously, this guy was the cowboys starter & he ran behind their mamouth Oline , w/ the 2nd best passing game in the NFL, & yet he still only mustered 588 yards & got moved back to 2nd string at the end of the season...
duckett can't be any better than the 'thunder' you've got now w/ Weaver...so I dunno what that is gonna do....
jones is another maurice morris, which isn't exactly a bad thing, but at least it may get eveyrone working harder perhaps ??
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the Pats will be better, heres why:
#1. their 1st dound draft choice is gonna be a GAME CHANGING defensive end. Add Cedric Ellis, Chris Long, Vernon Gholston or Glenn Dorsey to their wilfork, seymour, warren, green rotation, and IT WILL NOT MATTER WHO IS in THEIR 2ndary... their 2ndary will stil lbe good because of coaching...
#2. Adialius Thomas will move back to MLB & they'll have some speed & some youth to replace bruschi/seau/colvin w/ TJ Slaughter & a draft pick...
#3. 1 more year w/ Brady/Moss will see them more comfortable w/ each other
#4- sammy morris will be back at runing back & they'll pick up a 2nd round OT to help out that Oline
#5- they'll have dave thomas back at TE too (lost all year to injury last season)
their division will be better, they will lose 3-4 games, but they will be a stronger team & w/out injuries this time, they'll win the SB
Who do you expect them to take with their 2nd first round pick? :tongue:
yo momma :hyper: :evillaugh: ...
most definitly kidding man !! :-*
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the Pats will be better, heres why:
#1. their 1st dound draft choice is gonna be a GAME CHANGING defensive end. Add Cedric Ellis, Chris Long, Vernon Gholston or Glenn Dorsey to their wilfork, seymour, warren, green rotation, and IT WILL NOT MATTER WHO IS in THEIR 2ndary... their 2ndary will stil lbe good because of coaching...
#2. Adialius Thomas will move back to MLB & they'll have some speed & some youth to replace bruschi/seau/colvin w/ TJ Slaughter & a draft pick...
#3. 1 more year w/ Brady/Moss will see them more comfortable w/ each other
#4- sammy morris will be back at runing back & they'll pick up a 2nd round OT to help out that Oline
#5- they'll have dave thomas back at TE too (lost all year to injury last season)
their division will be better, they will lose 3-4 games, but they will be a stronger team & w/out injuries this time, they'll win the SB
Who do you expect them to take with their 2nd first round pick? :tongue:
yo momma :hyper: :evillaugh: ...
most definitly kidding man !! :-*
Good to have you here in the sports forum. Now I can just stay here to talk sports with ya.
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as to Seattles running game...
I'm still not thinking a former starter for the cowboys is gonna do any better than the 500 yards he got running for them ...
seriously, this guy was the cowboys starter & he ran behind their mamouth Oline , w/ the 2nd best passing game in the NFL, & yet he still only mustered 588 yards & got moved back to 2nd string at the end of the season...
duckett can't be any better than the 'thunder' you've got now w/ Weaver...so I dunno what that is gonna do....
jones is another maurice morris, which isn't exactly a bad thing, but at least it may get eveyrone working harder perhaps ??
Yeah, competition for jobs and all that. Sometimes a change of scenery does wonders) Weaver is the "thunder" but also all we have at FB. (think TJ running behind Weaver... no more short yardage issues) Jones is another MoMo but faster and stronger. We got depth, a new coach and Wahle may not be the only new O-lineman post April's draft.
As to the Pats, I didn't know by "better" you meant "lose more games". :tongue: Yes. I do get your drift there. But don't forget, Stallworth is gone and not replaced, and Troy Brown is about to be let go. (OK dropping Brown does nothing to production but he was a NE institution) Moss will see tougher coverage and EVERYONE is going to throw the kitchen sink at sacking Brady all year per the Giants example. (granted with less success than NY but Tom will see more pressure)
Speaking of Stallworth, how about those Browns! (??) Looking pretty freakin good IMHO and yes I'm talking about the freaking Browns. :-) Steelers better watch out. Heck the AFC better watch out for Cleveland next year. I'm not a big fan of giant crazy FA moves but the Browns have been bold and smart. (rare FA combo) Maybe they get Alexander, lol, they can afford him anyway.
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as to Seattles running game...
I'm still not thinking a former starter for the cowboys is gonna do any better than the 500 yards he got running for them ...
seriously, this guy was the cowboys starter & he ran behind their mamouth Oline , w/ the 2nd best passing game in the NFL, & yet he still only mustered 588 yards & got moved back to 2nd string at the end of the season...
duckett can't be any better than the 'thunder' you've got now w/ Weaver...so I dunno what that is gonna do....
jones is another maurice morris, which isn't exactly a bad thing, but at least it may get eveyrone working harder perhaps ??
Yeah, competition for jobs and all that. Sometimes a change of scenery does wonders) Weaver is the "thunder" but also all we have at FB. (think TJ running behind Weaver... no more short yardage issues) Jones is another MoMo but faster and stronger. We got depth, a new coach and Wahle may not be the only new O-lineman post April's draft.
As to the Pats, I didn't know by "better" you meant "lose more games". :tongue: Yes. I do get your drift there. But don't forget, Stallworth is gone and not replaced, and Troy Brown is about to be let go. (OK dropping Brown does nothing to production but he was a NE institution) Moss will see tougher coverage and EVERYONE is going to throw the kitchen sink at sacking Brady all year per the Giants example. (granted with less success than NY but Tom will see more pressure)
Speaking of Stallworth, how about those Browns! (??) Looking pretty freakin good IMHO and yes I'm talking about the freaking Browns. :-) Steelers better watch out. Heck the AFC better watch out for Cleveland next year. I'm not a big fan of giant crazy FA moves but the Browns have been bold and smart. (rare FA combo) Maybe they get Alexander, lol, they can afford him anyway.
#1- stallworth got bumped down to #5 receiver at the end of the season....thats why you saw very little of him basically from week 10 on ..... Jabar Gaffney took his slot when stallworth got bumped down & jabar gaffney is the guy that caught 2 game winning TD's last year....stallworth caught ZERO game winners .... the stallworth loss is overrated, but, will be good for the Browns (unless they paid too much for him)
#2- there was only 4 teams that were capable of putting pressure on brady last year.... Colts, Eagles, Giants, Ravens ...nobody else was able to & only the giants were capable of doing it 4 quarters in last years SB...nobody else lasted 4 quarters...
3 reasons why this happened in the SB, but not during the reg season
1. Brady was hurt & less mobile/effective than usual
2. Sammy Morris was out, therefore their better blocking halfback was gone
3. it was the SB & the giants were allowed more freedom to late hit & therefore didn't holdback when blitzing...if the Pats would've taken a 2 score lead, the game would've been over because coughlin would've abandoned the running game & the giants D would've ran out of steam because the Pats would've ran more....
yeah, the Browns are looking the AFC sleeper awright....I have them picked to take that division too, but, we need to see them play first to be more certain.... ....
but the Titans made some great pickups too & V Young will be healthy again (titans picked up TE Crumpler, WR Mcareins, G Scott from the Colts & a couple other good players ) ...
tough call on AFC sleeper next year....
as far as NFC, I picked the 49ers last year & that ain't EVER gonna happen.... but the CARDS may just do it finally
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Alright. We'll see, I guess I just have a hard time seeing any team being better than the Pats were last season. (despite losing the big one)
I think ya nailed most of the reasons NE fell last year in the SB. I'd add the "miracle play" by NY and Belicheck going for it on 4th and forever rather than kick an easy FG.
Sleepers? In March? Sounds like us. :lmao: (thought you picked da Raiders last year? LOL) ssOK, I picked the Lions who were 6-2 before turning into, well, the Lions.
My pre-draft/end of FA sleepers...
AFC- Cleveland
NFC- Tampa Bay
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Gotta go (for a few hours anyway) but just wanted to say again, welcome JCC. Sports talk is improved with you here for sure. It's good to have another sports fan who can dish it out, take it, trash talk and knows the topic well (or can fake it with the best of us). :cheersmate:
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good to be any place we can talk football w/out having PC homo's watching over you & banning you :-) (like over at chicago bears blog :evillaugh:) ...
I guess they didn't like the fact I bashed my sorry assed bears team last year more than 'non fans' :hyper: ....
but, as far as the 'Pats' being better, you are correct....they officially won't be 'better' statistically, but, when push comes to shove, they will take it all the way this time.....thats what I mean by better... ...
seriously, that 7th round pick could be HUGE for them.....if they land a chris long, cedric ellis, vernon gholston or glenn dorsey, their front line will be downright scary as far as pass rush & better run stoppers than the giants .... too bad the pats didn't lose to the jets that 2nd game last year, that would've moved the pats up another slot in the draft :lmao:
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Don't forget, NE lost the Superbowl.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/woncothesane/cursed_05.jpg)
oooooooo (louder now) oooooooooooooo :lmao:
I would be shocked if Chris Long gets passed up by both Miami and the Rams who pick 1 and 2. Anyone else you mention is possible depending on how the cookie crumbles. Man I sure hope NE does not get Gholston though! It's bad enough that I have to root one Buckeye LB in NE already but two would be to much. (farkin Pats, LOL) About half the mock drafts I've read have NE reaching for a CB (Leodis McKelvin) but many have Vernon falling to the Pats. (scary)
Man, wth did happen to the Bears anyway? (oh yea, "the curse" lol) They really fell apart last year and don't look to be all that put back together this year either. (save, for keeping Briggs) Will they go O-line or RB in round one? I think they would be smart to trade down from #14 into the high 20s in round 1 at get QB Brian Brohm + an extra draft pick or two. I really want to see the Bears winning again.
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Don't forget, NE lost the Superbowl.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/woncothesane/cursed_05.jpg)
oooooooo (louder now) oooooooooooooo :lmao:
I would be shocked if Chris Long gets passed up by both Miami and the Rams who pick 1 and 2. Anyone else you mention is possible depending on how the cookie crumbles. Man I sure hope NE does not get Gholston though! It's bad enough that I have to root one Buckeye LB in NE already but two would be to much. (farkin Pats, LOL) About half the mock drafts I've read have NE reaching for a CB (Leodis McKelvin) but many have Vernon falling to the Pats. (scary)
Man, wth did happen to the Bears anyway? (oh yea, "the curse" lol) They really fell apart last year and don't look to be all that put back together this year either. (save, for keeping Briggs) Will they go O-line or RB in round one? I think they would be smart to trade down from #14 into the high 20s in round 1 at get QB Brian Brohm + an extra draft pick or two. I really want to see the Bears winning again.
the rams need an Oline.....if they pick a defender, they are stupid...
parcels is too smart to not go oline or QB too....
the only ones shopping for D would be raiders, jets ....but the jets would still be better off going for a Oline or running back ....
and whoever you are reading that says the Pats will burn a #7 overall pick on a CORNERBACK, should be taken out back & hung..... ...
ain't NO WAY the patriots will pick a cornerback over the TREMENDOUS Dline/LB talent in this years top 10 .... ...
the giants this year & the Pats pretty well everyyear prove the key to top defense is the Line, then LB's, then Safeties & last, cornerbacks.... (assante samuel was like a 6th round pick or something, that the Pats MADE GREAT...)
the Pats worry about CB last ...& last years SB proved they need LB's & DE's ....
I have my doubts about them wanting gholston over ellis, dorsey, merling, C Long or even Jake Long (cause if jake long is still hanging around, you'd have to take him, then the pats defense won't matter as much, cause brady will have 5 minutes to throw a pass)
gholston is a tremendous talent, but not football smart or experienced........ but, if the Longs, Dorsey, Ellis are gone, gholston will be snatched up by the pats for sure....(or traded for 2-3 other top picks)
the Pats won't be cursed w/ the SB loss syndrome....
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the rams need an Oline.....if they pick a defender, they are stupid...
parcels is too smart to not go oline or QB too....
the only ones shopping for D would be raiders, jets ....but the jets would still be better off going for a Oline or running back ....
and whoever you are reading that says the Pats will burn a #7 overall pick on a CORNERBACK, should be taken out back & hung..... ...
ain't NO WAY the patriots will pick a cornerback over the TREMENDOUS Dline/LB talent in this years top 10 .... ...
the giants this year & the Pats pretty well everyyear prove the key to top defense is the Line, then LB's, then Safeties & last, cornerbacks.... (assante samuel was like a 6th round pick or something, that the Pats MADE GREAT...)
the Pats worry about CB last ...& last years SB proved they need LB's & DE's ....
I have my doubts about them wanting gholston over ellis, dorsey, merling, C Long or even Jake Long (cause if jake long is still hanging around, you'd have to take him, then the pats defense won't matter as much, cause brady will have 5 minutes to throw a pass)
gholston is a tremendous talent, but not football smart or experienced........ but, if the Longs, Dorsey, Ellis are gone, gholston will be snatched up by the pats for sure....(or traded for 2-3 other top picks)
the Pats won't be cursed w/ the SB loss syndrome....
- The Rams need everything. (except RB, QB and lately a K, the latter pissing me off to no end)
- Parcells is a smart guy and had a good look at Matt Ryan I'm sure. (and Jake Long) But the Dolphins also have holes everywhere and none of the QB's are sure things by far. They could realisticly get Brian Brohm at the top of round two. The best talent, the elite guys and the safest (huge money) guys are all DT, DE or RB in this years draft. (Bill also runs a 3-4, I think and Howie's pup is money)
Sure the Pats will be great again. Also I agree the curse thing is dumb. (thought you of all people would see that as a joke) I see the logic of NE getting Ellis or Dorsey or Gholston. But unless Chris Long gets hit by a bus, he will be gone an hour before the Pats pick at number 7 for sure. Jake Long will be long gone as well. (but Ryan Clady is an OT who has been shooting up the draft boards lately)
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
Dang it, who let you in? :banghead:
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
Dang it, who let you in? :banghead:
John's cool in the sports forum. And just remember, in the other forums, he don't believe his bullshit. He's just playing the bad guy.
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
Dang it, who let you in? :banghead:
someone who thinks the cowboys SUCK :tongue:
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
Dang it, who let you in? :banghead:
someone who thinks the cowboys SUCK :tongue:
:tool: :dn: :bigbird: :lame:
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
I'm unsure about the offense too. (thank God my guys are in the NFCW, lol)
What's the deal with the Bears anyway? Seattle has problems at the skill spots, notably RB and WR but Chicago has zip there. (+ QB issues besides) They better pull their shite together and have a heck of a draft besides.Chi-town needs to be ready in case GB stumbles w/o Favre*.
*If GB does not have Favre. :p
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7951584/Favre-hasn't-filed-...-is-it-just-a-formality?
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
I'm unsure about the offense too. (thank God my guys are in the NFCW, lol)
What's the deal with the Bears anyway? Seattle has problems at the skill spots, notably RB and WR but Chicago has zip there. (+ QB issues besides) They better pull their shite together and have a heck of a draft besides.Chi-town needs to be ready in case GB stumbles w/o Favre*.
*If GB does not have Favre. :p
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7951584/Favre-hasn't-filed-...-is-it-just-a-formality?
the ONLY thing that could possibly have the Bears take their division is their defense,that will be strong again next year w/ a healthy nathan vasher, urlacher & HOPEFULLY some beef on the Dline from the draft to help T Harris.... plus briggs is sticking around & thats HUGE for their D...
the bears offense will suck badly & I'm thinking its gonna be REAL close between the Vikes, Bears & Pack ....REAL CLOSE...
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
I'm unsure about the offense too. (thank God my guys are in the NFCW, lol)
What's the deal with the Bears anyway? Seattle has problems at the skill spots, notably RB and WR but Chicago has zip there. (+ QB issues besides) They better pull their shite together and have a heck of a draft besides.Chi-town needs to be ready in case GB stumbles w/o Favre*.
*If GB does not have Favre. :p
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7951584/Favre-hasn't-filed-...-is-it-just-a-formality?
the ONLY thing that could possibly have the Bears take their division is their defense,tha twill be strong again next year w/ a healthy nathan vasher, urlacher & HOPEFULLY some beef on hte Dline to help T Harris....
the bears offense will suck badly & I'm thinking its gonna be REAL close between the Vikes, Bears & Pack ....REAL CLOSE...
Yeah they have to do it on D for sure. As to that, the Briggs signing was a surprise to me. But the 9ers "tampering" to steal Briggs was HI-larious to this Hawk fan. It cost San Fran 2 draft picks this year (a 3rd and 5th) which should help keep those guys in the basement a wee bit longer.
:lmao:
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Big week for Seahawks fans.
Seattle locked up two pro-bowlers to long term contracts. (fairly cap friendly deals too)
LB Lofa Tatupu got a deal through 2015
http://sea.scout.com/2/739691.html
CB Marcus Trufant signed a 6 year deal today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/26/bc.fbn.seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html
Seattle also brought back LB D.D. Lewis for depth on a one year deal and kicker Olindo Mare is in town to take a shot at being Brown's replacement. In short, everything is in place to be able to draft the BPA in every round come April. Yee haa!!
:-)
seachickens look like they'll be strong again...
but, I'm still not sold on their 'new running game', or offense in general ...
they'll lose in the first or 2nd round of the playoffs ....AGAIN ....but at least you'll have a good team to watch all year round....better than my Bears this go round...thats for sure...
I'm unsure about the offense too. (thank God my guys are in the NFCW, lol)
What's the deal with the Bears anyway? Seattle has problems at the skill spots, notably RB and WR but Chicago has zip there. (+ QB issues besides) They better pull their shite together and have a heck of a draft besides.Chi-town needs to be ready in case GB stumbles w/o Favre*.
*If GB does not have Favre. :p
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7951584/Favre-hasn't-filed-...-is-it-just-a-formality?
the ONLY thing that could possibly have the Bears take their division is their defense,tha twill be strong again next year w/ a healthy nathan vasher, urlacher & HOPEFULLY some beef on hte Dline to help T Harris....
the bears offense will suck badly & I'm thinking its gonna be REAL close between the Vikes, Bears & Pack ....REAL CLOSE...
Yeah they have to do it on D for sure. As to that, the Briggs signing was a surprise to me. But the 9ers "tampering" to steal Briggs was HI-larious to this Hawk fan. It cost San Fran 2 draft picks this year (a 3rd and 5th) which should help keep those guys in the basement a wee bit longer.
:lmao:
yeah, Dick Nolan seems to be more of a dickhead ...
they doomed themselves when they paid 80 million bucks for a CORNERBACK :lmao: ...
god almighty, where are the priorities ?? ...
if they didn't have frank gore & patrick willis, I don't think they would've won a game last year...
next year, they'll win 4 games
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
How many years have you been saying that?
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Yeah. San Fran F'ed up the value at CB big time.
Trufant was in line for a 9.5M year as Seattle's franchise player before he singed a better deal. Even then he got 10M more than MLB Lofa Tatupu on a year shorter contract. (Tatupu's been to the pro bowl in each of his 3 years while Trufant has been once in four years. And only in his contract year to boot.) That is messed up.
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
How many years have you been saying that?
not as long as 'tEh coltbots' who were saying 'this is the colts year' for 7 years straight before it finally happened....
this year, its a done deal....peyton womanning's skills have diminished & their division is strong enough to push them out now..
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
Dunno. There is still the draft and Indy did pretty well sans Harrison last year. I imagine they will be about as good as my Hawks. That is, get to the playoffs and not much else. It will take some convinsing (and much seeing) for me to picture JAX or TEN getting the better of the Colts next year.
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Gotta go clean up/out to dinner before meeting some folks for basketball night. You guys promise to play mean till I get back. :-)
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
Dunno. There is still the draft and Indy did pretty well sans Harrison last year. I imagine they will be about as good as my Hawks. That is, get to the playoffs and not much else. It will take some convinsing (and much seeing) for me to picture JAX or TEN getting the better of the Colts next year.
on edit:
Gotta go clean up/out to dinner before meeting some folks for basketball night. You guys promise to play mean till I get back. :-)
it won't be Tenn. Vince Young is not an NFL Quarterback. His team won last year despite him, not because of him.
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
Dunno. There is still the draft and Indy did pretty well sans Harrison last year. I imagine they will be about as good as my Hawks. That is, get to the playoffs and not much else. It will take some convinsing (and much seeing) for me to picture JAX or TEN getting the better of the Colts next year.
on edit:
Gotta go clean up/out to dinner before meeting some folks for basketball night. You guys promise to play mean till I get back. :-)
it won't be Tenn. Vince Young is not an NFL Quarterback. His team won last year despite him, not because of him.
I agree to a certain extent.... last year young had a bum leg most the year...
that will be healed this season & if they just let vince be vince & their defense shows up again, they are a TOUGH football team... but yeah, it will take Vince to run his ass off & have that magic again....
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but hey,
how bout the colts losing their premier guard, klecko & ben utecht ??
I also hear Dwight Freeney may not be coming back &/or won't be 100% because of his injury ?
R Colvin had the same injury last year & he's OUT of the league now ...
Colts are going down next year ...even w/ their EASY schedule, they will lose 5-6 games & either JAX or the Titans will take that division.... (prolly the jags, but their defense took a beating this offseason, so we'll see)
Dunno. There is still the draft and Indy did pretty well sans Harrison last year. I imagine they will be about as good as my Hawks. That is, get to the playoffs and not much else. It will take some convinsing (and much seeing) for me to picture JAX or TEN getting the better of the Colts next year.
on edit:
Gotta go clean up/out to dinner before meeting some folks for basketball night. You guys promise to play mean till I get back. :-)
Indy doesn't have any draft picks until late in the 2nd round....depth isn't their strong suit anyway & without their offense scoring a bizzilian points & holding onto the ball 3/4 of the game, they are pretty well only as strong as their easy schedule...
JAX looked REAL GOOD at the end of last year & with any luck, their schedule will be fair next year & will get to play Indy w/ the same amount of rest Indy has ...you do know that Indy didn't play either the game against JAX last year w/out at least 10-14 days rest, matched against the jags 6 & 7 days rest ??
w/out Freeney, their defense is a hair above average...without bob sanders, their defense sucks & last year was sanders first 14 game season....so I'm sure he'll be hurt again next year & if so, w/out their best player, they are toast...
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damn steel...
just readthat you guys lost john brown ...
was he like your leading scorer or what ??
now I'm thinking you may have a bit more problems next year...
I don't think hass & your offense can play for the touchdown more than a couple times per game & w/out brown's great leg, your offensive points & strategy are gonna change ....
who knows, maybe this will force holmy into pounding the ball more , which may in turn benefit you ...I know it will if the hawks can actually do it... but, thats a big if unless they get a stud Olineman from the draft to helpout...
but if lets say brown was not w/ you last year, I'm doubting the hawks would've even made the playoffs...
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damn steel...
just readthat you guys lost john brown ...
was he like your leading scorer or what ??
now I'm thinking you may have a bit more problems next year...
I don't think hass & your offense can play for the touchdown more than a couple times per game & w/out brown's great leg, your offensive points & strategy are gonna change ....
who knows, maybe this will force holmy into pounding the ball more , which may in turn benefit you ...I know it will if the hawks can actually do it... but, thats a big if unless they get a stud Olineman from the draft to helpout...
but if lets say brown was not w/ you last year, I'm doubting the hawks would've even made the playoffs...
Tell me about it. The real kick in the head was he turned down a 14M contract just to turn around and accept the same deal from the freakin' Rams. The Rams! Guess he just wanted to get out of "South Alaska" and play close to home. (sigh)
We signed Olindo Mare today (or yesterday?) and he will fight it out with whatever rookie we get in the draft (along with some camp yahoo from the arena league). We will miss his clutch kicking for sure and you are right... I don't think we make the playoffs last year (or in 2006) w/o Brown.
I also agree our stratagy will change but that was in the works in any case. Signing Wahle at LG will let Sims move to his more natural RG spot (or even better a draftee from this year or last steps up). Weaver turned into a much better blocker when Strong went down and will be in front of TJ Duckett when it's time to pound it. I expect grabbing the best O-line coach in the game (Mike Solari) will be no small thing too.
Anywho. Bitterness aside, good luck to Josh Brown. Thanks for your game winners and 50+ yard scores. Thanks for the excitement and the thrills. But thank you most of all for the following moment which likely got a bigger cheer from me than anything else you ever accomplished and maybe ever will...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEQRXzmgEAs
:hyper: :rotf: :hyper:
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damn steel...
just readthat you guys lost john brown ...
was he like your leading scorer or what ??
now I'm thinking you may have a bit more problems next year...
I don't think hass & your offense can play for the touchdown more than a couple times per game & w/out brown's great leg, your offensive points & strategy are gonna change ....
who knows, maybe this will force holmy into pounding the ball more , which may in turn benefit you ...I know it will if the hawks can actually do it... but, thats a big if unless they get a stud Olineman from the draft to helpout...
but if lets say brown was not w/ you last year, I'm doubting the hawks would've even made the playoffs...
Tell me about it. The real kick in the head was he turned down a 14M contract just to turn around and accept the same deal from the freakin' Rams. The Rams! Guess he just wanted to get out of "South Alaska" and play close to home. (sigh)
We signed Olindo Mare today (or yesterday?) and he will fight it out with whatever rookie we get in the draft (along with some camp yahoo from the arena league). We will miss his clutch kicking for sure and you are right... I don't think we make the playoffs last year (or in 2006) w/o Brown.
I also agree our stratagy will change but that was in the works in any case. Signing Wahle at LG will let Sims move to his more natural RG spot (or even better a draftee from this year or last steps up). Weaver turned into a much better blocker when Strong went down and will be in front of TJ Duckett when it's time to pound it. I expect grabbing the best O-line coach in the game (Mike Solari) will be no small thing too.
Anywho. Bitterness aside, good luck to Josh Brown. Thanks for your game winners and 50+ yard scores. Thanks for the excitement and the thrills. But thank you most of all for the following moment which likely got a bigger cheer from me than anything else you ever accomplished and maybe ever will...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEQRXzmgEAs
:hyper: :rotf: :hyper:
damn, sometimes bad is bad..... yeah, hester won't live that one down, but, he will have a chance for revenge when the Bears play the SORRY ASSED rams this season & I'm not thinking the Rams special teams will handle the bears as well as seattles did....
watch for hester to burn brown real good at least once ....
I wouldn't mind seeing the hawks do well in 08'....that maybe can set them up to SPOIL the cowboys ...
this looks like the cowboys year ....Romo will have a bit more experience & dallas has two first round draft picks, which historically means Superbowl for a team like dallas ....
ain't noway the bears are going to the SB, so, I'm all for the hawks making it instead....
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damn steel...
just readthat you guys lost john brown ...
was he like your leading scorer or what ??
now I'm thinking you may have a bit more problems next year...
I don't think hass & your offense can play for the touchdown more than a couple times per game & w/out brown's great leg, your offensive points & strategy are gonna change ....
who knows, maybe this will force holmy into pounding the ball more , which may in turn benefit you ...I know it will if the hawks can actually do it... but, thats a big if unless they get a stud Olineman from the draft to helpout...
but if lets say brown was not w/ you last year, I'm doubting the hawks would've even made the playoffs...
Tell me about it. The real kick in the head was he turned down a 14M contract just to turn around and accept the same deal from the freakin' Rams. The Rams! Guess he just wanted to get out of "South Alaska" and play close to home. (sigh)
We signed Olindo Mare today (or yesterday?) and he will fight it out with whatever rookie we get in the draft (along with some camp yahoo from the arena league). We will miss his clutch kicking for sure and you are right... I don't think we make the playoffs last year (or in 2006) w/o Brown.
I also agree our stratagy will change but that was in the works in any case. Signing Wahle at LG will let Sims move to his more natural RG spot (or even better a draftee from this year or last steps up). Weaver turned into a much better blocker when Strong went down and will be in front of TJ Duckett when it's time to pound it. I expect grabbing the best O-line coach in the game (Mike Solari) will be no small thing too.
Anywho. Bitterness aside, good luck to Josh Brown. Thanks for your game winners and 50+ yard scores. Thanks for the excitement and the thrills. But thank you most of all for the following moment which likely got a bigger cheer from me than anything else you ever accomplished and maybe ever will...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEQRXzmgEAs
:hyper: :rotf: :hyper:
damn, sometimes bad is bad..... yeah, hester won't live that one down, but, he will have a chance for revenge when the Bears play the SORRY ASSED rams this season & I'm not thinking the Rams special teams will handle the bears as well as seattles did....
watch for hester to burn brown real good at least once ....
I wouldn't mind seeing the hawks do well in 08'....that maybe can set them up to SPOIL the cowboys ...
this looks like the cowboys year ....Romo will have a bit more experience & dallas has two first round draft picks, which historically means Superbowl for a team like dallas ....
ain't noway the bears are going to the SB, so, I'm all for the hawks making it instead....
Josh Brown does have a tendancy to have about half his kickoffs land at the 15 yard line so I can see Hester making him pay for it for sure. (maybe Brown wanted to kick in a dome?)
Yeah, Dallas could be very good which always give me mixed feelings. I love to hate em. You have probley heard but the Boys are going after Pacman pretty hard. If they get him they might go RB and WR in round one and be pretty freakin set in the offensive threats department. F'in cowboys, lol. Hopefully their division beats them up some.
It will be interesting because Seattle plays the NFC East in 2008. Thankfully, they get both the Giants and the Cowboys IN Seattle. Those should be good games for sure.
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damn steel...
just readthat you guys lost john brown ...
was he like your leading scorer or what ??
now I'm thinking you may have a bit more problems next year...
I don't think hass & your offense can play for the touchdown more than a couple times per game & w/out brown's great leg, your offensive points & strategy are gonna change ....
who knows, maybe this will force holmy into pounding the ball more , which may in turn benefit you ...I know it will if the hawks can actually do it... but, thats a big if unless they get a stud Olineman from the draft to helpout...
but if lets say brown was not w/ you last year, I'm doubting the hawks would've even made the playoffs...
Tell me about it. The real kick in the head was he turned down a 14M contract just to turn around and accept the same deal from the freakin' Rams. The Rams! Guess he just wanted to get out of "South Alaska" and play close to home. (sigh)
We signed Olindo Mare today (or yesterday?) and he will fight it out with whatever rookie we get in the draft (along with some camp yahoo from the arena league). We will miss his clutch kicking for sure and you are right... I don't think we make the playoffs last year (or in 2006) w/o Brown.
I also agree our stratagy will change but that was in the works in any case. Signing Wahle at LG will let Sims move to his more natural RG spot (or even better a draftee from this year or last steps up). Weaver turned into a much better blocker when Strong went down and will be in front of TJ Duckett when it's time to pound it. I expect grabbing the best O-line coach in the game (Mike Solari) will be no small thing too.
Anywho. Bitterness aside, good luck to Josh Brown. Thanks for your game winners and 50+ yard scores. Thanks for the excitement and the thrills. But thank you most of all for the following moment which likely got a bigger cheer from me than anything else you ever accomplished and maybe ever will...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEQRXzmgEAs
:hyper: :rotf: :hyper:
damn, sometimes bad is bad..... yeah, hester won't live that one down, but, he will have a chance for revenge when the Bears play the SORRY ASSED rams this season & I'm not thinking the Rams special teams will handle the bears as well as seattles did....
watch for hester to burn brown real good at least once ....
I wouldn't mind seeing the hawks do well in 08'....that maybe can set them up to SPOIL the cowboys ...
this looks like the cowboys year ....Romo will have a bit more experience & dallas has two first round draft picks, which historically means Superbowl for a team like dallas ....
ain't noway the bears are going to the SB, so, I'm all for the hawks making it instead....
Josh Brown does have a tendancy to have about half his kickoffs land at the 15 yard line so I can see Hester making him pay for it for sure. (maybe Brown wanted to kick in a dome?)
Yeah, Dallas could be very good which always give me mixed feelings. I love to hate em. You have probley heard but the Boys are going after Pacman pretty hard. If they get him they might go RB and WR in round one and be pretty freakin set in the offensive threats department. F'in cowboys, lol. Hopefully their division beats them up some.
It will be interesting because Seattle plays the NFC East in 2008. Thankfully, they get both the Giants and the Cowboys IN Seattle. Those should be good games for sure.
if the cowboys go RB & WR, they may not make it to the SB....
they need some MEAT on their Dline.....if they don't address that, they will get run over by the Giants again, or someone else...
if you think pacman had problems w/ the law in Tennesse....wait till he lives in DALLAS ...
I GUARANTEE he will get into trouble & cause problems for the cowboys....they would be stupid to pick that beotch up ...
the cowboys don't need corners w/ their top 2 draft slots......henry & T-New are good enough...they need to pick at least a 315lb nose guard & maybe another 280-300lber w/ another pick & of course, a running back ...
if the boys really want mcfadden, which they prolly really do since Jerry Jones is a razorback himself & they obviously need a running back, they made have to swap their 2 picks w/ one of the teams who has an earlier pick... (PATRIOTS will do that & so would the Tuna)
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I agree with going with line help most of the time. Still, both Owens and Glenn are my age, lol. There has been talk of Jones moving up for McFadden but it's cooled off lately. Jones can still get Ark's Felix Jones late in the first.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part that teams like Dallas go WR/RB and the Pats get a CB to replace CB's Samuel and Gay so that maybe a guy like DT Balmer, G/T Brenden Albert or OT Otah fall to my Hawks. (??)
The smart move for the Phins is clearly to trade down. The hard part about that is finding a sucker to do it with. :-)
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I agree with going with line help most of the time. Still, both Owens and Glenn are my age, lol. There has been talk of Jones moving up for McFadden but it's cooled off lately. Jones can still get Ark's Felix Jones late in the first.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part that teams like Dallas go WR/RB and the Pats get a CB to replace CB's Samuel and Gay so that maybe a guy like DT Balmer, G/T Brenden Albert or OT Otah fall to my Hawks. (??)
The smart move for the Phins is clearly to trade down. The hard part about that is finding a sucker to do it with. :-)
theres a huge sucker in dallas to trade down with & he'll do it...
bendon albert will be a BEAR... Otah is going to pittsburgh ...
and yeah, T Glenn is finished, but, T.O. still draws double coverage & their other two WR's are good enough ...
but the boys Dline is SMALL & you cannot have that in a 3-4....its the death of the 3-4, which then exposes all the boys weakness's in the 2ndary & at LB...
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I agree with going with line help most of the time. Still, both Owens and Glenn are my age, lol. There has been talk of Jones moving up for McFadden but it's cooled off lately. Jones can still get Ark's Felix Jones late in the first.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part that teams like Dallas go WR/RB and the Pats get a CB to replace CB's Samuel and Gay so that maybe a guy like DT Balmer, G/T Brenden Albert or OT Otah fall to my Hawks. (??)
The smart move for the Phins is clearly to trade down. The hard part about that is finding a sucker to do it with. :-)
theres a huge sucker in dallas to trade down with & he'll do it...
bendon albert will be a BEAR... Otah is going to pittsburgh ...
and yeah, T Glenn is finished, but, T.O. still draws double coverage & their other two WR's are good enough ...
but the boys Dline is SMALL & you cannot have that in a 3-4....its the death of the 3-4, which then exposes all the boys weakness's in the 2ndary & at LB...
Maybe we should start a new thead on the draft, LOL.
I've seen Otah going to da Bears, Lions and Pitt. Seen Albert go as high as Carolina (1 pick before Chi-town).
The Bears have a lot of good options. Brendon Albert would be tops. They will also consider Otah, maybe RB Mendenhall or even a QB with Brohm.
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Countdown to the Draft
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I agree with going with line help most of the time. Still, both Owens and Glenn are my age, lol. There has been talk of Jones moving up for McFadden but it's cooled off lately. Jones can still get Ark's Felix Jones late in the first.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part that teams like Dallas go WR/RB and the Pats get a CB to replace CB's Samuel and Gay so that maybe a guy like DT Balmer, G/T Brenden Albert or OT Otah fall to my Hawks. (??)
The smart move for the Phins is clearly to trade down. The hard part about that is finding a sucker to do it with. :-)
theres a huge sucker in dallas to trade down with & he'll do it...
bendon albert will be a BEAR... Otah is going to pittsburgh ...
and yeah, T Glenn is finished, but, T.O. still draws double coverage & their other two WR's are good enough ...
but the boys Dline is SMALL & you cannot have that in a 3-4....its the death of the 3-4, which then exposes all the boys weakness's in the 2ndary & at LB...
Maybe we should start a new thead on the draft, LOL.
I've seen Otah going to da Bears, Lions and Pitt. Seen Albert go as high as Carolina (1 pick before Chi-town).
The Bears have a lot of good options. Brendon Albert would be tops. They will also consider Otah, maybe RB Mendenhall or even a QB with Brohm.
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Countdown to the Draft
29 DAYS 00 HRS 40 MIN 00 SEC
Bears need to get a stud Olineman before they dare try & get a QB....which will put luck on their side, cause by waiting until the 2nd round for the QB pick, they may FINALLY get a winner AND be able to block for the guy ....
bears can't take mendenhall, because they have no oline.... they dumped 2 of last years starting Olinemen this offseason.........but, never say can't with those dumbass's & they very well may take mendenhall, just because he's from illionois & they do need a RB...
but if they finally get smart, they'll realize sticking ANYONE in the NFL behind a quality oline, will be good enough...but I'm not holding my breath ...
I don't think that felix guy from Arkansas has enough north /south in him to be NFL caliber....mccfadden is pushing it too, but, he's built like a brick shithouse & faster than hell...so, he may be able to fake it quite well behind dallas's oline & passing threat...
I'm not putting mcfadden in AP's legue just yet, because AP is north /south & likes to pound opponents.....mcfadden has a fumble probelm too...
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NFL networks reporter was saying the Rams or Falcons are gonna take glenn dorsey ...
poor glenn dorsey ...
what a waste of talent if he ends up there....
I say only the falcons would consider dorsey, because the rams just paid their QB 60 million bucks & he GOT HIS ASS KICKED last year, because they had NO OLINE....
I would have to say the Rams have no choice but to protect their #1 investment, their QB, as a priority..... the Rams will pick Jake Long if he's still available...
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darren mcfadden going to visit the patriots this week :o
ok dallas....get ready to PAY UP :cheersmate: ...
we'll give you mcfadden if you give us your two 1st round picks & a current player or your top pick next year perhaps ??
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darren mcfadden going to visit the patriots this week :o
ok dallas....get ready to PAY UP :cheersmate: ...
we'll give you mcfadden if you give us your two 1st round picks & a current player or your top pick next year perhaps ??
That sounds about right if they go by the trade value chart.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html
That sounds about crazy IMO. :-) Maybe your right. Maybe Jones is that foolish. lol
Anywho, high five for talking football in April. :cheersmate:
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darren mcfadden going to visit the patriots this week :o
ok dallas....get ready to PAY UP :cheersmate: ...
we'll give you mcfadden if you give us your two 1st round picks & a current player or your top pick next year perhaps ??
That sounds about right if they go by the trade value chart.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html
That sounds about crazy IMO. :-) Maybe your right. Maybe Jones is that foolish. lol
Anywho, high five for talking football in April. :cheersmate:
IMO, jerry jones is crazy enough (or flamboyant enough perhaps) ... ....
& I'd say he may well know this year could be make it or break it.... Parcels coaches are dwindling & next year alot more of parcels players will be up for new contracts &/or leaving... ...
the boys are paying big bucks for too many players right now & are heading towards the Bears future IMO ..(not good having too much salary wrapped up on multiple players going on their 2nd round of contracts)
does wade phillips have what it takes to keep the boys together for future SB runs after this season ?? ....
answer: NO...
jerry has to go for broke this year & landing mcfadden 'could' be huge....
but if it were me, I'd take the Pats #7 overall to get a stud Dlineman....thats what the Boys REALLY need w/ their tiny 3-4 ..... better yet, the fins #1 overall...
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darren mcfadden going to visit the patriots this week :o
ok dallas....get ready to PAY UP :cheersmate: ...
we'll give you mcfadden if you give us your two 1st round picks & a current player or your top pick next year perhaps ??
That sounds about right if they go by the trade value chart.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html
That sounds about crazy IMO. :-) Maybe your right. Maybe Jones is that foolish. lol
Anywho, high five for talking football in April. :cheersmate:
IMO, jerry jones is crazy enough (or flamboyant enough perhaps) ... ....
& I'd say he may well know this year could be make it or break it.... Parcels coaches are dwindling & next year alot more of parcels players will be up for new contracts &/or leaving... ...
the boys are paying big bucks for too many players right now & are heading towards the Bears future IMO ..(not good having too much salary wrapped up on multiple players going on their 2nd round of contracts)
does wade phillips have what it takes to keep the boys together for future SB runs after this season ?? ....
answer: NO...
jerry has to go for broke this year & landing mcfadden 'could' be huge....
but if it were me, I'd take the Pats #7 overall to get a stud Dlineman....thats what the Boys REALLY need w/ their tiny 3-4 ..... better yet, the fins #1 overall...
McFadden won't be around for the Pats at number 7 but a stud D-lineman will. (they get like 30 visits so my guess is NE was just doing their due dilligance) The NFL network is now saying Miami will take Jake Long. According to the un-named muckity mucks and grand pooh bahs of the scouting world and various insiders. Who knows? It's way early and plenty of coaches are tossing out misinformation like chum for the sharks.
Some mock drafts I've been following...
The Sports Xchange, Pete Prisco, Clark Judge
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/mock
Scout
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=2&c=738692
Rob Rang
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/mockdraft.php?round=1&year=2008
Chad Reuter
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/mockdraft2.php?round=1&year=2008
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darren mcfadden going to visit the patriots this week :o
ok dallas....get ready to PAY UP :cheersmate: ...
we'll give you mcfadden if you give us your two 1st round picks & a current player or your top pick next year perhaps ??
That sounds about right if they go by the trade value chart.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html
That sounds about crazy IMO. :-) Maybe your right. Maybe Jones is that foolish. lol
Anywho, high five for talking football in April. :cheersmate:
IMO, jerry jones is crazy enough (or flamboyant enough perhaps) ... ....
& I'd say he may well know this year could be make it or break it.... Parcels coaches are dwindling & next year alot more of parcels players will be up for new contracts &/or leaving... ...
the boys are paying big bucks for too many players right now & are heading towards the Bears future IMO ..(not good having too much salary wrapped up on multiple players going on their 2nd round of contracts)
does wade phillips have what it takes to keep the boys together for future SB runs after this season ?? ....
answer: NO...
jerry has to go for broke this year & landing mcfadden 'could' be huge....
but if it were me, I'd take the Pats #7 overall to get a stud Dlineman....thats what the Boys REALLY need w/ their tiny 3-4 ..... better yet, the fins #1 overall...
McFadden won't be around for the Pats at number 7 but a stud D-lineman will. (they get like 30 visits so my guess is NE was just doing their due dilligance) The NFL network is now saying Miami will take Jake Long. According to the un-named muckity mucks and grand pooh bahs of the scouting world and various insiders. Who knows? It's way early and plenty of coaches are tossing out misinformation like chum for the sharks.
Some mock drafts I've been following...
The Sports Xchange, Pete Prisco, Clark Judge
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/mock
Scout
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=2&c=738692
Rob Rang
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/mockdraft.php?round=1&year=2008
Chad Reuter
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/mockdraft2.php?round=1&year=2008
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new england ain't taking derrick harvey......he's a 4-3 DE & ain't big enough to be a DT on NE ....maybe the cowboys, but not NE...
if they can't get glenn dorsey or vernon gholston, NE will prolly take Brandon Albert or Jake Long if he's still available... afterall, it was NE's HORRIFIC Oline performance in the SB that cost them THE GREATEST SEASON EVER ...so my guess is, NE's top 5 list is:
glenn dorsey (NE loves LSU players), Vernon Gholston, Jake Long, Brandon Albert, Darren Mcfadden
great/good defensive players are always available via free agency & draft, so NE won't waste a #7 pick on somebody like derrick harvey.... ....
so between dorsey, gholston, Long, Albert & Mcfadden, they are pretty well assured a GREAT player that will make their team significantly better, one way or another...
as far as miami, yeah Chris Long looks like a Parcels kinda guy & rebuilding the D first, is the best way to go...
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NE's top 5 list is:
glenn dorsey (NE loves LSU players), Vernon Gholston, Jake Long, Brandon Albert, Darren Mcfadden
Sure. I bet that's Seattle's top five too. :-) Still, Albert is the only guy there that will survive the first five or six picks. The Jets pick at six and they will get Mcfadden if he is even around and if he's not, they will take Vernon.
There are six mock drafts up there and I think only one dumb@ss has Derrick Harvey going to the Pats. (a point I agree with you on. NE will not take him.) But Jake and Chris Long, as well as Dorsey and Mcfadden will be gone for sure. (that's only 4 btw) Matt Ryan will likely be gone as well but the Pats could care less about a QB pick. Still, one other top guy will be missing from NE's wish list. Probley a top tackle. (if Atlanta gets Ryan then KC has to go O-line IMO)
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NE's top 5 list is:
glenn dorsey (NE loves LSU players), Vernon Gholston, Jake Long, Brandon Albert, Darren Mcfadden
Sure. I bet that's Seattle's top five too. :-) Still, Albert is the only guy there that will survive the first five or six picks. The Jets pick at six and they will get Mcfadden if he is even around and if he's not, they will take Vernon.
There are six mock drafts up there and I think only one dumb@ss has Derrick Harvey going to the Pats. (a point I agree with you on. NE will not take him.) But Jake and Chris Long, as well as Dorsey and Mcfadden will be gone for sure. (that's only 4 btw) Matt Ryan will likely be gone as well but the Pats could care less about a QB pick. Still, one other top guy will be missing from NE's wish list. Probley a top tackle. (if Atlanta gets Ryan then KC has to go O-line IMO)
how many of those other mock draft dumbass's are saying the Pats will pick a cornerback ?? :mental:
I say that the chiefs & rams HAVE NO CHOICE in the matter....they HAVE TO take THE BEST Olinemen available in the draft & that looks to be Brandon Albert/Jake Long..... cause as of right now, it doesn't matter who is playing QB for either of those teams, cause their QB's are getting killed by the pash rush ....and BOTH of their STUD running backs got knocked by injuries last season...which again suggests their PISSPOOR Olines had alot to do with that...
JCC's mock draft: top 7, cause thats all that matters
1. miami - vernon gholston ...(LT / McGuiness / D Ware type linebacker that will gang rape QB's.......thats parcels style & jason taylor will be gone next year) plus, the Fins are a division rival of the Pats, who until the combine, had gholston locked up...so Parcels can kick the Pats in the balls while also getting prolly THE BEST big defensive athlete in the draft.... a knuckledragger for sure, but, Parcels will be able to help him learn how to play football in the NFL..
2. st louis- jake long (rams have 100 mil invested into Jackson & Bolger, gotta protect that)
3. atlanta - matt ryan (need Qb, already has decent oline & ryan looks able)
4. raydas - glenn dorsey (raydas have just resigned 3 decent RB's, so unlikely to grab mcfadden....... their Dline got ganged raped last year & they released sapp & clemmens, so they are in need of DT ..dorsey is THE BEAST o the draft ...
5 chiefs - brandon albert (chiefs are a running team, last year they couldn't pass or run.... & brandon albert is a bulldozer who can pass & run block) ...plus herm will want to pick a brotha' & this one can actually help their decent QB's have some time to throw ..
6. jets - chris long ( Jets are dealing robinson, therefore are preparring for a new DT...chris long is a 4-3 DE ONLY, but the Jets will make the mistake of drafting him as an OLB to primarily pass rush, then when that doesn't work out because his lack of lateral speed will get him owned out in the flats on pass coverage/pitchouts, they'll move him to DT, where he will be undersized in a 3-4 defense...stupid jets) ...but maybe howie will convince his son to hold out & avoid the jets like the plague...
7. Pats- cedric ellis ...if other teams are smart (highly unlikely), the best player left will either be cedric ellis or darren mcfadden ... but he lack of power running/pass protection at the end of last season was evident (which means the Pats could even go mendenhall, who's built like a mack truck) ........or the pats may just go ryan clady or somebody else they think will be right for them at the Oline ...
so its up in the air for the Pats if JCC's top players all go before the Pats have a chance to grab them ....but, Cedric Ellis could be a real good fit as an OLB/DE for them....he's kinda undersized already, but very fast & has got a great football mind.....they could have him lose 10-15 lbs or so & have him play the OLB/DE in a 3-4 by the end of this season.... belichick loves to take undersized star Dlinemen & turn them into LB's... & remember, Pete Caroll, USC's headcoach who drafted Ellis, used to coach the Pats ....so, there is a link already....
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how many of those other mock draft dumbass's are saying the Pats will pick a cornerback ?? :mental:
I say that the chiefs & rams HAVE NO CHOICE in the matter....they HAVE TO take THE BEST Olinemen available in the draft & that looks to be Brandon Albert/Jake Long..... cause as of right now, it doesn't matter who is playing QB for either of those teams, cause their QB's are getting killed by the pash rush ....and BOTH of their STUD running backs got knocked by injuries last season...which again suggests their PISSPOOR Olines had alot to do with that...
JCC's mock draft: top 7, cause thats all that matters
1. miami - vernon gholston ...(LT / McGuiness / D Ware type linebacker that will gang rape QB's.......thats parcels style & jason taylor will be gone next year) plus, the Fins are a division rival of the Pats, who until the combine, had gholston locked up...so Parcels can kick the Pats in the balls while also getting prolly THE BEST big defensive athlete in the draft.... a knuckledragger for sure, but, Parcels will be able to help him learn how to play football in the NFL..
2. st louis- jake long (rams have 100 mil invested into Jackson & Bolger, gotta protect that)
3. atlanta - matt ryan (need Qb, already has decent oline & ryan looks able)
4. raydas - glenn dorsey (raydas have just resigned 3 decent RB's, so unlikely to grab mcfadden....... their Dline got ganged raped last year & they released sapp & clemmens, so they are in need of DT ..dorsey is THE BEAST o the draft ...
5 chiefs - brandon albert (chiefs are a running team, last year they couldn't pass or run.... & brandon albert is a bulldozer who can pass & run block) ...plus herm will want to pick a brotha' & this one can actually help their decent QB's have some time to throw ..
6. jets - chris long ( Jets are dealing robinson, therefore are preparring for a new DT...chris long is a 4-3 DE ONLY, but the Jets will make the mistake of drafting him as an OLB to primarily pass rush, then when that doesn't work out because his lack of lateral speed will get him owned out in the flats on pass coverage/pitchouts, they'll move him to DT, where he will be undersized in a 3-4 defense...stupid jets) ...but maybe howie will convince his son to hold out & avoid the jets like the plague...
7. Pats- cedric ellis ...if other teams are smart (highly unlikely), the best player left will either be cedric ellis or darren mcfadden ... but he lack of power running/pass protection at the end of last season was evident (which means the Pats could even go mendenhall, who's built like a mack truck) ........or the pats may just go ryan clady or somebody else they think will be right for them at the Oline ...
so its up in the air for the Pats if JCC's top players all go before the Pats have a chance to grab them ....but, Cedric Ellis could be a real good fit as an OLB/DE for them....he's kinda undersized already, but very fast & has got a great football mind.....they could have him lose 10-15 lbs or so & have him play the OLB/DE in a 3-4 by the end of this season.... belichick loves to take undersized star Dlinemen & turn them into LB's... & remember, Pete Caroll, USC's headcoach who drafted Ellis, used to coach the Pats ....so, there is a link already....
I don't think it's crazy for the Pat's to grab the best CB in the draft. I agree the front seven matters far more and the Giants put the exclamation point on that fact in the SB. NE knows that as well as anyone and knew so well before the Giants game. A great front seven means you can get by with an average CB group. A killer front seven means you can get by with a below average CB group. The problem is, the Pats have a crap CB group right now. They got a lot of nothing.
The RS mock draft: (because thats all I really have to do right now) :tongue:
1 - MIA - Chris Long, DE
Long did play the 3-4 at Virginia fwiw. (Vernon tore up the combine but Chris put up better numbers on the field and it's not like he blew off his workouts either) This is the safest pick in the draft for a team that desperatly wants out of the number one spot.
2 - STL - Jake Long, OT
Smart move. Top guy on the board and a position of great need for the Rams. Michigan student can learn fron the Buckeye master. (Orlando Pace)
3 - ATL - Glenn Dorsey, DT
Why not? They need everything and Jake is off the board. They have multiple picks in round two and can pull a Cleveland Browns type move. (shoot for Brohm in the bottom of the first/top of the second round)
4 - OAK - Darren McFadden, RB
Yeah it's not the smartest move. Hey! It's not the smartest organization. Raiders are all flash and no go. Lots of talent at o-line later anyway and Al Davis gets what he wants so screw em.
5 - KC - Matt Ryan, QB
They need it. It's not the best class but Ryan sits at the top of it anyway. He will never be Brady or Manning but he could be a Hasselbeck type in a few years.
6 - NYJ - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB
Won't miss a chance to stick Belichek in the eye with this one. It's a need. They like their Buckeye picks from the last few years. Guy is a stud in a need pos.
7 - NE - Ryan Clady, OT
Elite pass rushers are gone. Pats know how to win and will add a really good guy where it counts. Will not be embarassed again up front on the O-line. Unlike most NFL franchises, the learning curve in NE is sharp. They make adjustments better than anyone. (so hard not to pick a CB just to cheese JCC off)
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#9 - CIN - Sedrick Ellis, DT
Big big need. Solid guy. Will not fall farther than this for sure. Nuff said. (#8 BAL needs a CB, or a QB)
#25 - SEA - James Hardy, WR
Why? Hackett signed a new deal in CAR, Engram is 35 and Branch has ACL issues. TE is a bigger need but I don't grade any of em as round one material this year. Other WR's like Sweed, Kelly and Jackson I assume are gone. (Kentwan Balmer DT and Brenden Albert OG also assumed gone) Hardy is the big and smart target that Hass has missed since Jurevicius was around. (they finish the top three rounds adding a G or OT and TE or DT depending on best player available.
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how many of those other mock draft dumbass's are saying the Pats will pick a cornerback ?? :mental:
I say that the chiefs & rams HAVE NO CHOICE in the matter....they HAVE TO take THE BEST Olinemen available in the draft & that looks to be Brandon Albert/Jake Long..... cause as of right now, it doesn't matter who is playing QB for either of those teams, cause their QB's are getting killed by the pash rush ....and BOTH of their STUD running backs got knocked by injuries last season...which again suggests their PISSPOOR Olines had alot to do with that...
JCC's mock draft: top 7, cause thats all that matters
1. miami - vernon gholston ...(LT / McGuiness / D Ware type linebacker that will gang rape QB's.......thats parcels style & jason taylor will be gone next year) plus, the Fins are a division rival of the Pats, who until the combine, had gholston locked up...so Parcels can kick the Pats in the balls while also getting prolly THE BEST big defensive athlete in the draft.... a knuckledragger for sure, but, Parcels will be able to help him learn how to play football in the NFL..
2. st louis- jake long (rams have 100 mil invested into Jackson & Bolger, gotta protect that)
3. atlanta - matt ryan (need Qb, already has decent oline & ryan looks able)
4. raydas - glenn dorsey (raydas have just resigned 3 decent RB's, so unlikely to grab mcfadden....... their Dline got ganged raped last year & they released sapp & clemmens, so they are in need of DT ..dorsey is THE BEAST o the draft ...
5 chiefs - brandon albert (chiefs are a running team, last year they couldn't pass or run.... & brandon albert is a bulldozer who can pass & run block) ...plus herm will want to pick a brotha' & this one can actually help their decent QB's have some time to throw ..
6. jets - chris long ( Jets are dealing robinson, therefore are preparring for a new DT...chris long is a 4-3 DE ONLY, but the Jets will make the mistake of drafting him as an OLB to primarily pass rush, then when that doesn't work out because his lack of lateral speed will get him owned out in the flats on pass coverage/pitchouts, they'll move him to DT, where he will be undersized in a 3-4 defense...stupid jets) ...but maybe howie will convince his son to hold out & avoid the jets like the plague...
7. Pats- cedric ellis ...if other teams are smart (highly unlikely), the best player left will either be cedric ellis or darren mcfadden ... but he lack of power running/pass protection at the end of last season was evident (which means the Pats could even go mendenhall, who's built like a mack truck) ........or the pats may just go ryan clady or somebody else they think will be right for them at the Oline ...
so its up in the air for the Pats if JCC's top players all go before the Pats have a chance to grab them ....but, Cedric Ellis could be a real good fit as an OLB/DE for them....he's kinda undersized already, but very fast & has got a great football mind.....they could have him lose 10-15 lbs or so & have him play the OLB/DE in a 3-4 by the end of this season.... belichick loves to take undersized star Dlinemen & turn them into LB's... & remember, Pete Caroll, USC's headcoach who drafted Ellis, used to coach the Pats ....so, there is a link already....
I don't think it's crazy for the Pat's to grab the best CB in the draft. I agree the front seven matters far more and the Giants put the exclamation point on that fact in the SB. NE knows that as well as anyone and knew so well before the Giants game. A great front seven means you can get by with an average CB group. A killer front seven means you can get by with a below average CB group. The problem is, the Pats have a crap CB group right now. They got a lot of nothing.
The RS mock draft: (because thats all I really have to do right now) :tongue:
1 - MIA - Chris Long, DE
Long did play the 3-4 at Virginia fwiw. (Vernon tore up the combine but Chris put up better numbers on the field and it's not like he blew off his workouts either) This is the safest pick in the draft for a team that desperatly wants out of the number one spot.
2 - STL - Jake Long, OT
Smart move. Top guy on the board and a position of great need for the Rams. Michigan student can learn fron the Buckeye master. (Orlando Pace)
3 - ATL - Glenn Dorsey, DT
Why not? They need everything and Jake is off the board. They have multiple picks in round two and can pull a Cleveland Browns type move. (shoot for Brohm in the bottom of the first/top of the second round)
4 - OAK - Darren McFadden, RB
Yeah it's not the smartest move. Hey! It's not the smartest organization. Raiders are all flash and no go. Lots of talent at o-line later anyway and Al Davis gets what he wants so screw em.
5 - KC - Matt Ryan, QB
They need it. It's not the best class but Ryan sits at the top of it anyway. He will never be Brady or Manning but he could be a Hasselbeck type in a few years.
6 - NYJ - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB
Won't miss a chance to stick Belichek in the eye with this one. It's a need. They like their Buckeye picks from the last few years. Guy is a stud in a need pos.
7 - NE - Ryan Clady, OT
Elite pass rushers are gone. Pats know how to win and will add a really good guy where it counts. Will not be embarassed again up front on the O-line. Unlike most NFL franchises, the learning curve in NE is sharp. They make adjustments better than anyone. (so hard not to pick a CB just to cheese JCC off)
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#9 - CIN - Sedrick Ellis, DT
Big big need. Solid guy. Will not fall farther than this for sure. Nuff said. (#8 BAL needs a CB, or a QB)
#25 - SEA - James Hardy, WR
Why? Hackett signed a new deal in CAR, Engram is 35 and Branch has ACL issues. TE is a bigger need but I don't grade any of em as round one material this year. Other WR's like Sweed, Kelly and Jackson I assume are gone. (Kentwan Balmer DT and Brenden Albert OG also assumed gone) Hardy is the big and smart target that Hass has missed since Jurevicius was around. (they finish the top three rounds adding a G or OT and TE or DT depending on best player available.
I've got your cheez :lmao:
there are NO elite cornerbacks in college .... that especially deserve a first round pick.... thats the rule... reason being, the Pats especially can take a 4th round pick like assante samuel & make him look Elite &/or partially turn him into one... just watch & see how good the Pats 2ndary is this year....between meriweather, harrison, sanders, hobbs, williams, jackson , ventrone & a 2nd round or up pick in the draft, they will look like allstars thanks to their front 7 gang raping the QB & proper coaching ... (don't forget the new rules for defense helping them too)
will the iggles & cowboys be dumb enough to blow their first round pick on a CB ...answer: YES ...& to make matters worse, the iggles already sold their future everything away by paying samuel 60million bucks...
if these mock drafters get anything right, it will be the cowboys & iggles blowing their picks on cornerbacks & /or THE WRONG players....
I'll tell you right now, that felix the cat guy from arkansas will be another reggie bush (minus the fanfare) he's far too scat back to make it in the NFL.... ...if the boys pick felix as their lightning back to compliment barber, they won't be any better off than they were last year as far as rushing....they'd be far better off taking mendenhall or stewart or someone we've never heard of like the giants did so well these past couple years...
on another note....I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raydas take Chris Long & the Jets take Glenn Dorsey.... thats actually a better fit being that chris long is a 4-3 DE & Dorsey is big enough to handle playing DT in a 3-4 ....god I hope not, cause that would help the Jets D bigtime !!
the Jets ain't taking mcfadden....they just paid all that loot for T Jones & they also just bought Chapman from the Fins.... but I hope you're right & they do take mcfadden over dorsey or long :naughty:
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I've got your cheez :lmao:
there are NO elite cornerbacks in college .... that especially deserve a first round pick.... thats the rule... reason being, the Pats especially can take a 4th round pick like assante samuel & make him look Elite &/or partially turn him into one... just watch & see how good the Pats 2ndary is this year....between meriweather, harrison, sanders, hobbs, williams, jackson , ventrone & a 2nd round or up pick in the draft, they will look like allstars thanks to their front 7 gang raping the QB & proper coaching ... (don't forget the new rules for defense helping them too)
will the iggles & cowboys be dumb enough to blow their first round pick on a CB ...answer: YES ...& to make matters worse, the iggles already sold their future everything away by paying samuel 60million bucks...
if these mock drafters get anything right, it will be the cowboys & iggles blowing their picks on cornerbacks & /or THE WRONG players....
I'll tell you right now, that felix the cat guy from arkansas will be another reggie bush (minus the fanfare) he's far too scat back to make it in the NFL.... ...if the boys pick felix as their lightning back to compliment barber, they won't be any better off than they were last year as far as rushing....they'd be far better off taking mendenhall or stewart or someone we've never heard of like the giants did so well these past couple years...
on another note....I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raydas take Chris Long & the Jets take Glenn Dorsey.... thats actually a better fit being that chris long is a 4-3 DE & Dorsey is big enough to handle playing DT in a 3-4 ....god I hope not, cause that would help the Jets D bigtime !!
the Jets ain't taking mcfadden....they just paid all that loot for T Jones & they also just bought Chapman from the Fins.... but I hope you're right & they do take mcfadden over dorsey or long :naughty:
You can hold all yer darn horses there buddy. :p
- I didn't have the Jets pick McFadden "over" Dorsey or Long. Those cats were gone baby gone in my mock, and so was, btw, McFadden.
- I think Harrison is calling it quits for the Pats and Meriweather is awsome against the run but you can pass on him all day. NE lost two starters back there and that's not so easy to deal with.
- Felix Jones as Reggie part deux would be good for the Boys. Jones is a great return guy (28.21 yards per) and comes at a fraction of the cost that Bush did. Barber will be "the man" still. (and fwiw, Barber was only half of a dynamic duo himself with L. Maroney in Minnesota) + "Thunder" and "lightning" in Dallas would be a lot better on paper than Seattle's "has been" and "never was". :(
- I agree taking Mendenhall or Stewart are both better options than Felix but do you see them both lasting to #22 and sliding by iffy running teams like HOU, ARI, DET and CHI?
- Every mock has 3-5 CB's going in round one and every recent actual draft has seen the same (or more). Now it does not always work out great but these teams are not letting morons make those calls. (except the Raiders) :-)
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I've got your cheez :lmao:
there are NO elite cornerbacks in college .... that especially deserve a first round pick.... thats the rule... reason being, the Pats especially can take a 4th round pick like assante samuel & make him look Elite &/or partially turn him into one... just watch & see how good the Pats 2ndary is this year....between meriweather, harrison, sanders, hobbs, williams, jackson , ventrone & a 2nd round or up pick in the draft, they will look like allstars thanks to their front 7 gang raping the QB & proper coaching ... (don't forget the new rules for defense helping them too)
will the iggles & cowboys be dumb enough to blow their first round pick on a CB ...answer: YES ...& to make matters worse, the iggles already sold their future everything away by paying samuel 60million bucks...
if these mock drafters get anything right, it will be the cowboys & iggles blowing their picks on cornerbacks & /or THE WRONG players....
I'll tell you right now, that felix the cat guy from arkansas will be another reggie bush (minus the fanfare) he's far too scat back to make it in the NFL.... ...if the boys pick felix as their lightning back to compliment barber, they won't be any better off than they were last year as far as rushing....they'd be far better off taking mendenhall or stewart or someone we've never heard of like the giants did so well these past couple years...
on another note....I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raydas take Chris Long & the Jets take Glenn Dorsey.... thats actually a better fit being that chris long is a 4-3 DE & Dorsey is big enough to handle playing DT in a 3-4 ....god I hope not, cause that would help the Jets D bigtime !!
the Jets ain't taking mcfadden....they just paid all that loot for T Jones & they also just bought Chapman from the Fins.... but I hope you're right & they do take mcfadden over dorsey or long :naughty:
You can hold all yer darn horses there buddy. :p
- I didn't have the Jets pick McFadden "over" Dorsey or Long. Those cats were gone baby gone in my mock, and so was, btw, McFadden.
- I think Harrison is calling it quits for the Pats and Meriweather is awsome against the run but you can pass on him all day. NE lost two starters back there and that's not so easy to deal with.
- Felix Jones as Reggie part deux would be good for the Boys. Jones is a great return guy (28.21 yards per) and comes at a fraction of the cost that Bush did. Barber will be "the man" still. (and fwiw, Barber was only half of a dynamic duo himself with L. Maroney in Minnesota) + "Thunder" and "lightning" in Dallas would be a lot better on paper than Seattle's "has been" and "never was". :(
- I agree taking Mendenhall or Stewart are both better options than Felix but do you see them both lasting to #22 and sliding by iffy running teams like HOU, ARI, DET and CHI?
- Every mock has 3-5 CB's going in round one and every recent actual draft has seen the same (or more). Now it does not always work out great but these teams are not letting morons make those calls. (except the Raiders) :-)
and the 49ers, Bears, Lions, Bengals, Iggles, Vikings, Falcons etc.etc.etc. :hyper:
the cowboys already have a good return guy ...but they don't have a solid #2 RB, nor do they have a bonified 3-4 Nose Tackle....what they already have is 2 decent CB's....
by the way, the Pats didn't lose two starting CB's...just one & that was Samuel...both randal gay & eugene wilson were 2nd teamers....& in Wilsons' case, he was in the doghouse anyway & randal gay was hurt as much as he was healthy...
good riddance...
I think THE reason the giants got as far as they did, was because of Brandon Jacobs BLOCKING ability, more so than rushing... ...will felix jones be able to block a 250lb blitzing LB &/or help block osi, tuck & strahan ?? ...answer ... HELL NO ...
felix jones will be an obviously, one dimensional player & that is a scat back ...D's will know either he's running the ball & or receiving in the flat... ..
and I'd say the Pats would take the big man from Virginia over Ryan Clady (if he's still around) ..
god help matt ryan in KC if your mock draft comes true ...herm edwards dumbass will ruin his career...
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I've got your cheez :lmao:
there are NO elite cornerbacks in college .... that especially deserve a first round pick.... thats the rule... reason being, the Pats especially can take a 4th round pick like assante samuel & make him look Elite &/or partially turn him into one... just watch & see how good the Pats 2ndary is this year....between meriweather, harrison, sanders, hobbs, williams, jackson , ventrone & a 2nd round or up pick in the draft, they will look like allstars thanks to their front 7 gang raping the QB & proper coaching ... (don't forget the new rules for defense helping them too)
will the iggles & cowboys be dumb enough to blow their first round pick on a CB ...answer: YES ...& to make matters worse, the iggles already sold their future everything away by paying samuel 60million bucks...
if these mock drafters get anything right, it will be the cowboys & iggles blowing their picks on cornerbacks & /or THE WRONG players....
I'll tell you right now, that felix the cat guy from arkansas will be another reggie bush (minus the fanfare) he's far too scat back to make it in the NFL.... ...if the boys pick felix as their lightning back to compliment barber, they won't be any better off than they were last year as far as rushing....they'd be far better off taking mendenhall or stewart or someone we've never heard of like the giants did so well these past couple years...
on another note....I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raydas take Chris Long & the Jets take Glenn Dorsey.... thats actually a better fit being that chris long is a 4-3 DE & Dorsey is big enough to handle playing DT in a 3-4 ....god I hope not, cause that would help the Jets D bigtime !!
the Jets ain't taking mcfadden....they just paid all that loot for T Jones & they also just bought Chapman from the Fins.... but I hope you're right & they do take mcfadden over dorsey or long :naughty:
You can hold all yer darn horses there buddy. :p
- I didn't have the Jets pick McFadden "over" Dorsey or Long. Those cats were gone baby gone in my mock, and so was, btw, McFadden.
- I think Harrison is calling it quits for the Pats and Meriweather is awsome against the run but you can pass on him all day. NE lost two starters back there and that's not so easy to deal with.
- Felix Jones as Reggie part deux would be good for the Boys. Jones is a great return guy (28.21 yards per) and comes at a fraction of the cost that Bush did. Barber will be "the man" still. (and fwiw, Barber was only half of a dynamic duo himself with L. Maroney in Minnesota) + "Thunder" and "lightning" in Dallas would be a lot better on paper than Seattle's "has been" and "never was". :(
- I agree taking Mendenhall or Stewart are both better options than Felix but do you see them both lasting to #22 and sliding by iffy running teams like HOU, ARI, DET and CHI?
- Every mock has 3-5 CB's going in round one and every recent actual draft has seen the same (or more). Now it does not always work out great but these teams are not letting morons make those calls. (except the Raiders) :-)
and the 49ers, Bears, Lions, Bengals, Iggles, Vikings, Falcons etc.etc.etc. :hyper:
the cowboys already have a good return guy ...but they don't have a solid #2 RB, nor do they have a bonified 3-4 Nose Tackle....what they already have is 2 decent CB's....
by the way, the Pats didn't lose two starting CB's...just one & that was Samuel...both randal gay & eugene wilson were 2nd teamers....& in Wilsons' case, he was in the doghouse anyway & randal gay was hurt as much as he was healthy...
good riddance...
I think THE reason the giants got as far as they did, was because of Brandon Jacobs BLOCKING ability, more so than rushing... ...will felix jones be able to block a 250lb blitzing LB &/or help block osi, tuck & strahan ?? ...answer ... HELL NO ...
felix jones will be an obviously, one dimensional player & that is a scat back ...D's will know either he's running the ball & or receiving in the flat... ..
and I'd say the Pats would take the big man from Virginia over Ryan Clady (if he's still around) ..
god help matt ryan in KC if your mock draft comes true ...herm edwards dumbass will ruin his career...
Heh heh, OK, fair enough but the Vikings are just a QB away and the Bears had it pretty figured out not to long ago and can still get it put back together again. I can't defend the 9ers post Walsh or my beloved bungles at all really. The Lions and Falcons are lost causes though the Eagles seem to be an above average team in a way above average conference.
Now, if your trying to convince me that NE will be great next year, well, I'm convinced. The Phins and Jets are just gosh-awful and the Bills won all of 3 games last year vs teams not named the Phins and/or Jets, lol. The Pats are going to roll again.
RB is nice and deep this year with draft worthy guys but I don't think any of them will block like Brandon Jacobs.
As to our mocks, they probley both get blown up by trades or what not. I humbly sugest though that your mock suffers just a bit more from "if he's still around" disease than mine does.
:uhsure:
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I've got your cheez :lmao:
there are NO elite cornerbacks in college .... that especially deserve a first round pick.... thats the rule... reason being, the Pats especially can take a 4th round pick like assante samuel & make him look Elite &/or partially turn him into one... just watch & see how good the Pats 2ndary is this year....between meriweather, harrison, sanders, hobbs, williams, jackson , ventrone & a 2nd round or up pick in the draft, they will look like allstars thanks to their front 7 gang raping the QB & proper coaching ... (don't forget the new rules for defense helping them too)
will the iggles & cowboys be dumb enough to blow their first round pick on a CB ...answer: YES ...& to make matters worse, the iggles already sold their future everything away by paying samuel 60million bucks...
if these mock drafters get anything right, it will be the cowboys & iggles blowing their picks on cornerbacks & /or THE WRONG players....
I'll tell you right now, that felix the cat guy from arkansas will be another reggie bush (minus the fanfare) he's far too scat back to make it in the NFL.... ...if the boys pick felix as their lightning back to compliment barber, they won't be any better off than they were last year as far as rushing....they'd be far better off taking mendenhall or stewart or someone we've never heard of like the giants did so well these past couple years...
on another note....I wouldn't be surprised to see the Raydas take Chris Long & the Jets take Glenn Dorsey.... thats actually a better fit being that chris long is a 4-3 DE & Dorsey is big enough to handle playing DT in a 3-4 ....god I hope not, cause that would help the Jets D bigtime !!
the Jets ain't taking mcfadden....they just paid all that loot for T Jones & they also just bought Chapman from the Fins.... but I hope you're right & they do take mcfadden over dorsey or long :naughty:
You can hold all yer darn horses there buddy. :p
- I didn't have the Jets pick McFadden "over" Dorsey or Long. Those cats were gone baby gone in my mock, and so was, btw, McFadden.
- I think Harrison is calling it quits for the Pats and Meriweather is awsome against the run but you can pass on him all day. NE lost two starters back there and that's not so easy to deal with.
- Felix Jones as Reggie part deux would be good for the Boys. Jones is a great return guy (28.21 yards per) and comes at a fraction of the cost that Bush did. Barber will be "the man" still. (and fwiw, Barber was only half of a dynamic duo himself with L. Maroney in Minnesota) + "Thunder" and "lightning" in Dallas would be a lot better on paper than Seattle's "has been" and "never was". :(
- I agree taking Mendenhall or Stewart are both better options than Felix but do you see them both lasting to #22 and sliding by iffy running teams like HOU, ARI, DET and CHI?
- Every mock has 3-5 CB's going in round one and every recent actual draft has seen the same (or more). Now it does not always work out great but these teams are not letting morons make those calls. (except the Raiders) :-)
and the 49ers, Bears, Lions, Bengals, Iggles, Vikings, Falcons etc.etc.etc. :hyper:
the cowboys already have a good return guy ...but they don't have a solid #2 RB, nor do they have a bonified 3-4 Nose Tackle....what they already have is 2 decent CB's....
by the way, the Pats didn't lose two starting CB's...just one & that was Samuel...both randal gay & eugene wilson were 2nd teamers....& in Wilsons' case, he was in the doghouse anyway & randal gay was hurt as much as he was healthy...
good riddance...
I think THE reason the giants got as far as they did, was because of Brandon Jacobs BLOCKING ability, more so than rushing... ...will felix jones be able to block a 250lb blitzing LB &/or help block osi, tuck & strahan ?? ...answer ... HELL NO ...
felix jones will be an obviously, one dimensional player & that is a scat back ...D's will know either he's running the ball & or receiving in the flat... ..
and I'd say the Pats would take the big man from Virginia over Ryan Clady (if he's still around) ..
god help matt ryan in KC if your mock draft comes true ...herm edwards dumbass will ruin his career...
Heh heh, OK, fair enough but the Vikings are just a QB away and the Bears had it pretty figured out not to long ago and can still get it put back together again. I can't defend the 9ers post Walsh or my beloved bungles at all really. The Lions and Falcons are lost causes though the Eagles seem to be an above average team in a way above average conference.
Now, if your trying to convince me that NE will be great next year, well, I'm convinced. The Phins and Jets are just gosh-awful and the Bills won all of 3 games last year vs teams not named the Phins and/or Jets, lol. The Pats are going to roll again.
RB is nice and deep this year with draft worthy guys but I don't think any of them will block like Brandon Jacobs.
As to our mocks, they probley both get blown up by trades or what not. I humbly sugest though that your mock suffers just a bit more from "if he's still around" disease than mine does.
:uhsure:
yeah, mine suffers from 'WTF' syndrome awright :lmao: ....
as to the bills & jets ....you forget the jets were in the playoffs at least 3 times these past 5-6 years & until last year, had been contenders for the past 10 years...
and you watch out for the Bills this year....they have a good QB & their D (cept against the Pats), is pretty darn good considering how many players they lost last season...
and I just laugh when you say the vikings & bares are just a QB away from greatness... :hyper: .... yeah, thats all eh ?? ....its they might as well be missing all other positions too, since finding a QB that can get er done is THE hardest problem to solve ...
many of the best bears players all got drafted by dick jaurons days &/or early during lovies takeover when the bears had like 2 first rounders & multiple high picks (cause they sucked so bad everyyear) ...
lovies & angelos picks these past two-three years have been monumental blunders (cept for olsen, but once again, that was EASY) ..
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yeah, mine suffers from 'WTF' syndrome awright :lmao: ....
as to the bills & jets ....you forget the jets were in the playoffs at least 3 times these past 5-6 years & until last year, had been contenders for the past 10 years...
and you watch out for the Bills this year....they have a good QB & their D (cept against the Pats), is pretty darn good considering how many players they lost last season...
and I just laugh when you say the vikings & bares are just a QB away from greatness... :hyper: .... yeah, thats all eh ?? ....its they might as well be missing all other positions too, since finding a QB that can get er done is THE hardest problem to solve ...
many of the best bears players all got drafted by dick jaurons days &/or early during lovies takeover when the bears had like 2 first rounders & multiple high picks (cause they sucked so bad everyyear) ...
lovies & angelos picks these past two-three years have been monumental blunders (cept for olsen, but once again, that was EASY) ..
Sure it's hard to find QB's but they do emerge from time to time. (like the Brown's Anderson) (look how long it took old Rich Gannon to figure it out) Just saying. It's not the same as "needing everything else". A team with a great QB and almost nothing else would look like crap. OK, I'll say it... would look like the Bengals. :(
Yeah the Jets were good. So was Shaun Alexander. "Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place." And I'll believe in the Bills when they win outside the div. and do better than 4-4 at home.
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yeah, mine suffers from 'WTF' syndrome awright :lmao: ....
as to the bills & jets ....you forget the jets were in the playoffs at least 3 times these past 5-6 years & until last year, had been contenders for the past 10 years...
and you watch out for the Bills this year....they have a good QB & their D (cept against the Pats), is pretty darn good considering how many players they lost last season...
and I just laugh when you say the vikings & bares are just a QB away from greatness... :hyper: .... yeah, thats all eh ?? ....its they might as well be missing all other positions too, since finding a QB that can get er done is THE hardest problem to solve ...
many of the best bears players all got drafted by dick jaurons days &/or early during lovies takeover when the bears had like 2 first rounders & multiple high picks (cause they sucked so bad everyyear) ...
lovies & angelos picks these past two-three years have been monumental blunders (cept for olsen, but once again, that was EASY) ..
Sure it's hard to find QB's but they do emerge from time to time. (like the Brown's Anderson) (look how long it took old Rich Gannon to figure it out) Just saying. It's not the same as "needing everything else". A team with a great QB and almost nothing else would look like crap. OK, I'll say it... would look like the Bengals. :(
Yeah the Jets were good. So was Shaun Alexander. "Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place." And I'll believe in the Bills when they win outside the div. and do better than 4-4 at home.
the Bares have had ONE superbowl contending QB since the 1940's.... so I'd say its a bit more than 'a few good qb's floating around' ....its about an organization not knowing how to pick QB's, realizing they are a priority & have been since face masks were added to the game ... & then not knowing how to groom or support them properly....
but this is an interesting development ...
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story?id=09000d5d807a21bc&template=without-video&confirm=true
Pats just grabbed an excellent LB from the JETS ....victor hobson :naughty:..... :hyper:
so the likelyhood of the Pats getting gholston now must be slim to none... & it could mean the JETS are making room for gholston ?? ...(cept that they aren't the same position)
so the Pats LB's are looking like this next year:
Vrabel, Bruschi, Thomas, Slaughter, Hobson....definitly more speed & considering Seau was 39, more youth now too :-) ... ....
I'm sticking w/ Sedrick Ellis or Brandon Albert as the Pats pick......
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yeah, mine suffers from 'WTF' syndrome awright :lmao: ....
as to the bills & jets ....you forget the jets were in the playoffs at least 3 times these past 5-6 years & until last year, had been contenders for the past 10 years...
and you watch out for the Bills this year....they have a good QB & their D (cept against the Pats), is pretty darn good considering how many players they lost last season...
and I just laugh when you say the vikings & bares are just a QB away from greatness... :hyper: .... yeah, thats all eh ?? ....its they might as well be missing all other positions too, since finding a QB that can get er done is THE hardest problem to solve ...
many of the best bears players all got drafted by dick jaurons days &/or early during lovies takeover when the bears had like 2 first rounders & multiple high picks (cause they sucked so bad everyyear) ...
lovies & angelos picks these past two-three years have been monumental blunders (cept for olsen, but once again, that was EASY) ..
Sure it's hard to find QB's but they do emerge from time to time. (like the Brown's Anderson) (look how long it took old Rich Gannon to figure it out) Just saying. It's not the same as "needing everything else". A team with a great QB and almost nothing else would look like crap. OK, I'll say it... would look like the Bengals. :(
Yeah the Jets were good. So was Shaun Alexander. "Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place." And I'll believe in the Bills when they win outside the div. and do better than 4-4 at home.
the Bares have had ONE superbowl contending QB since the 1940's.... so I'd say its a bit more than 'a few good qb's floating around' ....its about an organization not knowing how to pick QB's, realizing they are a priority & have been since face masks were added to the game ... & then not knowing how to groom or support them properly....
but this is an interesting development ...
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story?id=09000d5d807a21bc&template=without-video&confirm=true
Pats just grabbed an excellent LB from the JETS ....victor hobson :naughty:..... :hyper:so the likelyhood of the Pats getting gholston now must be slim to none... & it could mean the JETS are making room for gholston ?? ...(cept that they aren't the same position)
so the Pats LB's are looking like this next year:
Vrabel, Bruschi, Thomas, Slaughter, Hobson....definitly more speed & considering Seau was 39, more youth now too :-) ... ....
I'm sticking w/ Sedrick Ellis or Brandon Albert as the Pats pick......
Sweet.
John I really like reading your posts here in the NFL thread.
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I seriously doubt we'll be taking a cornerback in the first round. But then, the Eagles never did draft well, so who knows.
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I seriously doubt we'll be taking a cornerback in the first round. But then, the Eagles never did draft well, so who knows.
I would hope not, but, the rumor is they will .,...
still don't know how you guys will stop the run or pressure QB's w/out blitzing, but thats ok :uhsure:
but I say the iggles will pick a WR w/ their first round pick....
I like the addition of the former Pat/Colt, dan klecko to the iggles roster... he's been hired as a FULLBACK, which the iggles have so desperatly needed for years now....but obviously, he can play DT & special teams
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yeah, mine suffers from 'WTF' syndrome awright :lmao: ....
as to the bills & jets ....you forget the jets were in the playoffs at least 3 times these past 5-6 years & until last year, had been contenders for the past 10 years...
and you watch out for the Bills this year....they have a good QB & their D (cept against the Pats), is pretty darn good considering how many players they lost last season...
and I just laugh when you say the vikings & bares are just a QB away from greatness... :hyper: .... yeah, thats all eh ?? ....its they might as well be missing all other positions too, since finding a QB that can get er done is THE hardest problem to solve ...
many of the best bears players all got drafted by dick jaurons days &/or early during lovies takeover when the bears had like 2 first rounders & multiple high picks (cause they sucked so bad everyyear) ...
lovies & angelos picks these past two-three years have been monumental blunders (cept for olsen, but once again, that was EASY) ..
Sure it's hard to find QB's but they do emerge from time to time. (like the Brown's Anderson) (look how long it took old Rich Gannon to figure it out) Just saying. It's not the same as "needing everything else". A team with a great QB and almost nothing else would look like crap. OK, I'll say it... would look like the Bengals. :(
Yeah the Jets were good. So was Shaun Alexander. "Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place." And I'll believe in the Bills when they win outside the div. and do better than 4-4 at home.
the Bares have had ONE superbowl contending QB since the 1940's.... so I'd say its a bit more than 'a few good qb's floating around' ....its about an organization not knowing how to pick QB's, realizing they are a priority & have been since face masks were added to the game ... & then not knowing how to groom or support them properly....
but this is an interesting development ...
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story?id=09000d5d807a21bc&template=without-video&confirm=true
Pats just grabbed an excellent LB from the JETS ....victor hobson :naughty:..... :hyper:so the likelyhood of the Pats getting gholston now must be slim to none... & it could mean the JETS are making room for gholston ?? ...(cept that they aren't the same position)
so the Pats LB's are looking like this next year:
Vrabel, Bruschi, Thomas, Slaughter, Hobson....definitly more speed & considering Seau was 39, more youth now too :-) ... ....
I'm sticking w/ Sedrick Ellis or Brandon Albert as the Pats pick......
Sweet.
John I really like reading your posts here in the NFL thread.
yeah, hobson is a good LB....
and it will be interesting to see what happens draft day....
if the Pats can still grab gholston, their LB core is gonna downright SCARY ....
I'll take gholston, but, my gut is telling me the Fins are gonna grab gholston w/ their #1 pick.... gholston has Parcels written all over him ....
McGuiness, Bruschi, Demarcus Ware were all Parcels draft picks & Lawrence Taylor was obviously Parcels greatest overall LB (he didn't pick him officially, but, he obviously groomed him once he tookoever headcoach)....
so who of this bunch looks the most like LT, McGuiness, D Ware ??? ....
the clear answer is Vernon Gholston & during every Parcels team rebuilding campaign he either picked a stud Defensive lineman or LB first ...(especially OLB) ...
chris long is a 4-3 DE...Parcels doesn't run a 4-3 ..... & chris long cannot play a 3-4 OLB, he's too slow....
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more drama unfolds....
in chicago, but of course...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807a4430&template=with-video&confirm=true
Urlacher is skipping workouts & wants contract renegotiated ....
could this mean he wants a trade ?? ...
I hope so, cause I'd love to see him get on a competent team LIKE the PATRIOTS :o ...
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more drama unfolds....
in chicago, but of course...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807a4430&template=with-video&confirm=true
Urlacher is skipping workouts & wants contract renegotiated ....
could this mean he wants a trade ?? ...
I hope so, cause I'd love to see him get on a competent team LIKE the PATRIOTS :o ...
If the Pats wuold've kept the camcorders off the opponents sidelines, it would be a done deal. That second first round pick would have been nice trade bait.
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more drama unfolds....
in chicago, but of course...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807a4430&template=with-video&confirm=true
Urlacher is skipping workouts & wants contract renegotiated ....
could this mean he wants a trade ?? ...
I hope so, cause I'd love to see him get on a competent team LIKE the PATRIOTS :o ...
If the Pats wuold've kept the camcorders off the opponents sidelines, it would be a done deal. That second first round pick would have been nice trade bait.
they still have a 7th overall ....
and depending on who gets grabbed first in the draft, I'd say, it would be worth it for the Pats to trade the 7th overall for Urlacher... (depending on his back too) ...
a Pats LB weakness for sometime has been their MLB's ability to cover mid to deep passing routes....Bruschi has slowed & Urlacher has MASTERED pass coverage in those big gaps up the middle...
I'm thinking that the money they just dished out to briggs, has sealed urlachers fate...
he wants a ring & he damn well knows it ain't happening in Chicago now....
put it this way, if the Pats can't land a 'sure fire' stud like dorsey, gholston, or long...then the urlacher trade would be well worth it.. .... thats assuming the Pats are gonna pick a defender w/ that 7th overall...
then again, buyer beware if Urlacher is being traded after spinal surgery.....so we'll see :popcorn:
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more drama unfolds....
in chicago, but of course...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807a4430&template=with-video&confirm=true
Urlacher is skipping workouts & wants contract renegotiated ....
could this mean he wants a trade ?? ...
I hope so, cause I'd love to see him get on a competent team LIKE the PATRIOTS :o ...
If the Pats wuold've kept the camcorders off the opponents sidelines, it would be a done deal. That second first round pick would have been nice trade bait.
they still have a 7th overall ....
and depending on who gets grabbed first in the draft, I'd say, it would be worth it for the Pats to trade the 7th overall for Urlacher... (depending on his back too) ...
a Pats LB weakness for sometime has been their MLB's ability to cover mid to deep passing routes....Bruschi has slowed & Urlacher has MASTERED pass coverage in those big gaps up the middle...
I'm thinking that the money they just dished out to briggs, has sealed urlachers fate...
he wants a ring & he damn well knows it ain't happening in Chicago now....
put it this way, if the Pats can't land a 'sure fire' stud like dorsey, gholston, or long...then the urlacher trade would be well worth it.. .... thats assuming the Pats are gonna pick a defender w/ that 7th overall...
then again, buyer beware if Urlacher is being traded after spinal surgery.....so we'll see :popcorn:
If Urlacher is healthy, I don't know that I'd trade him for a 7th overall and a late 2nd. That don't mean that the Bears wouldn't, though.
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more drama unfolds....
in chicago, but of course...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d807a4430&template=with-video&confirm=true
Urlacher is skipping workouts & wants contract renegotiated ....
could this mean he wants a trade ?? ...
I hope so, cause I'd love to see him get on a competent team LIKE the PATRIOTS :o ...
If the Pats wuold've kept the camcorders off the opponents sidelines, it would be a done deal. That second first round pick would have been nice trade bait.
they still have a 7th overall ....
and depending on who gets grabbed first in the draft, I'd say, it would be worth it for the Pats to trade the 7th overall for Urlacher... (depending on his back too) ...
a Pats LB weakness for sometime has been their MLB's ability to cover mid to deep passing routes....Bruschi has slowed & Urlacher has MASTERED pass coverage in those big gaps up the middle...
I'm thinking that the money they just dished out to briggs, has sealed urlachers fate...
he wants a ring & he damn well knows it ain't happening in Chicago now....
put it this way, if the Pats can't land a 'sure fire' stud like dorsey, gholston, or long...then the urlacher trade would be well worth it.. .... thats assuming the Pats are gonna pick a defender w/ that 7th overall...
then again, buyer beware if Urlacher is being traded after spinal surgery.....so we'll see :popcorn:
If Urlacher is healthy, I don't know that I'd trade him for a 7th overall and a late 2nd. That don't mean that the Bears wouldn't, though.
actually, I think the Bears will trade him...
Briggs is younger & had a much better year than urlacher last year & I think urlachers back is a problem....
also, the Bears are hovering around the salary cap & they don't even have a friggen NFL QB or RB ...
urlacher & now tommy harris know that THIs bears team will never get back to the superbowl & the time for gettin' is NOW......
I think urlacher is tough enough to rehab is back & play for a quality team that supports LB's better than the Bares... (like the Pats 3-4, 2 gap defense that will relieve urlacher of some duties, & gives urlacher 3 more LB's to help, & some REAL MEAT / top notch players on the Dline ...
urlacher could play 3-5 more years w/ the Pats & win a SB or two....
I hope he gets FAR FAR away from the dumbass Bares organization...
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its confirmed, LONG headed to miami.....
wait....Chris Long you say ?? ....
nope, JAKE LONG !!
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d807ac068&template=with-video&confirm=true
the Fins are going over a prelim contract w/ him, but of course, that still doesn't mean they're gonna pick him for sure & he'll agree....
or, Parcels is forcing the Rams or Chiefs to give up something else is a trade for JAKE Long...
I said all along Parcels wouldn't take Chris Long & I still think he'll pick gholston after this whole positioning is said & done...
but wasn't Jumob Elliot a Parcels pick ?
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MIA and Jake Long...
yahoo link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmcVLzCm5qg3.Bcm4FxJsLJDubYF?slug=jc-leveragingtoppick040908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
The meeting with Condon confirmed the belief among many NFL executives and player agents that the Dolphins will extend contract offers to as many as four players prior to the start of the draft on April 26. That’s far from a new strategy, but it’s nonetheless intriguing because of the subsequent back-door maneuvering as players, agents and teams figure out who will succeed in the cash grab that goes with each pick.
The players that Miami is looking hardest at....
The Dolphins have done extensive work on both Longs, Ryan and LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey. Along with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden
I agree with JCC in some respect. This is just some combo of gamesmanship, due diligence and contract math. The Phin's could save over 10M by picking 4th instead of 1st for example. I would be cool with Miami grabbing Jake Long, if for no other reason than Seattle (and everyone else) can continue to maul the Rams O-line. :-)
fwiw Jake Long is not as good as last years top tackle Joe Thomas who went at #3 overall to Cleveland. But I think Long will be great and whoever gets him, they will not be sorry.
The countdown continues... :hyper:
NFL Draft
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MIA and Jake Long...
yahoo link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmcVLzCm5qg3.Bcm4FxJsLJDubYF?slug=jc-leveragingtoppick040908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
The meeting with Condon confirmed the belief among many NFL executives and player agents that the Dolphins will extend contract offers to as many as four players prior to the start of the draft on April 26. That’s far from a new strategy, but it’s nonetheless intriguing because of the subsequent back-door maneuvering as players, agents and teams figure out who will succeed in the cash grab that goes with each pick.
The players that Miami is looking hardest at....
The Dolphins have done extensive work on both Longs, Ryan and LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey. Along with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden
I agree with JCC in some respect. This is just some combo of gamesmanship, due diligence and contract math. The Phin's could save over 10M by picking 4th instead of 1st for example. I would be cool with Miami grabbing Jake Long, if for no other reason than Seattle (and everyone else) can continue to maul the Rams O-line. :-)
fwiw Jake Long is not as good as last years top tackle Joe Thomas who went at #3 overall to Cleveland. But I think Long will be great and whoever gets him, they will not be sorry.
The countdown continues... :hyper:
NFL Draft
16 DAYS 02 HRS 49 MIN 44 SEC
great points...
and of all the guys parcels could get away w/ paying the least, I'd say it would be gholston ... ...
dorsey doesn't play in a 3-4 currently either & he'd prolly couldn't handle adding 20-30lbs to his frame now & anchor the 3-4....
but Parcels did just bring Fergusson over from the cowboys & he's a pretty stout NT ....he had a bad knee injury last year & I'm guessing thats why the boys let him go so easily.... so the tuna may already have a starting NT in fergusson, then they'd have dorsey lineup at weakside DT ...
countdown is right....this is real drama this year man !!....so many great players !!...so many teams in need !! :hyper:
also, as to the Pats & a cornerback.... there is a scenario that COULD work for them.... if gholston, both longs, dorsey & albert are all gone, then it COULD be worth it for the Pats to take Cromartie as their 7th round pick... I didn't realize he has 4.3 speed :o...
cromartie is faster than his brother & they even say he's a better athlete ....if so, being that the pats coldn't get the better guys up top, Cromartie would be of great use since he could play in the NFL this season & at least hang w/ any receiver in the league & flatout outrun most of them.... hmmmm
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MIA and Jake Long...
yahoo link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmcVLzCm5qg3.Bcm4FxJsLJDubYF?slug=jc-leveragingtoppick040908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
The meeting with Condon confirmed the belief among many NFL executives and player agents that the Dolphins will extend contract offers to as many as four players prior to the start of the draft on April 26. That’s far from a new strategy, but it’s nonetheless intriguing because of the subsequent back-door maneuvering as players, agents and teams figure out who will succeed in the cash grab that goes with each pick.
The players that Miami is looking hardest at....
The Dolphins have done extensive work on both Longs, Ryan and LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey. Along with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden
I agree with JCC in some respect. This is just some combo of gamesmanship, due diligence and contract math. The Phin's could save over 10M by picking 4th instead of 1st for example. I would be cool with Miami grabbing Jake Long, if for no other reason than Seattle (and everyone else) can continue to maul the Rams O-line. :-)
fwiw Jake Long is not as good as last years top tackle Joe Thomas who went at #3 overall to Cleveland. But I think Long will be great and whoever gets him, they will not be sorry.
The countdown continues... :hyper:
NFL Draft
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great points...
and of all the guys parcels could get away w/ paying the least, I'd say it would be gholston ... ...
dorsey doesn't play in a 3-4 currently either & he'd prolly couldn't handle adding 20-30lbs to his frame now & anchor the 3-4....
but Parcels did just bring Fergusson over from the cowboys & he's a pretty stout NT ....he had a bad knee injury last year & I'm guessing thats why the boys let him go so easily.... so the tuna may already have a starting NT in fergusson, then they'd have dorsey lineup at weakside DT ...
countdown is right....this is real drama this year man !!....so many great players !!...so many teams in need !! :hyper:
also, as to the Pats & a cornerback.... there is a scenario that COULD work for them.... if gholston, both longs, dorsey & albert are all gone, then it COULD be worth it for the Pats to take Cromartie as their 7th round pick... I didn't realize he has 4.3 speed :o...
cromartie is faster than his brother & they even say he's a better athlete ....if so, being that the pats coldn't get the better guys up top, Cromartie would be of great use since he could play in the NFL this season & at least hang w/ any receiver in the league & flatout outrun most of them.... hmmmm
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Hey JCC. Looks like your doing your own due diligence here, lol. We agree about the importance of the front seven but Cromartie is a damn fine pick especially if the guys you mention are gone. (and minus Albert I've long maintained those guys would be gone) It would not be easy to pass on Sedric Ellis or a o-tackle but I agree with you that Cromartie can start right away and that's no small thing.
Miami will be on the road to recovery with Parcels there even when they can't trade down. Heck, they still got like nine draft picks and two in the first round. (If you count the top of "round two" as number 32 ovverall given the Pats forfit) Of course, I still don't know what the heck they are going to do with those picks. LOL
Cool sidenote, now the draft is only 5 DAYS 21 HRS 42 MIN and 22 SEC's away! :p
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MIA and Jake Long...
yahoo link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmcVLzCm5qg3.Bcm4FxJsLJDubYF?slug=jc-leveragingtoppick040908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
The meeting with Condon confirmed the belief among many NFL executives and player agents that the Dolphins will extend contract offers to as many as four players prior to the start of the draft on April 26. That’s far from a new strategy, but it’s nonetheless intriguing because of the subsequent back-door maneuvering as players, agents and teams figure out who will succeed in the cash grab that goes with each pick.
The players that Miami is looking hardest at....
The Dolphins have done extensive work on both Longs, Ryan and LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey. Along with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden
I agree with JCC in some respect. This is just some combo of gamesmanship, due diligence and contract math. The Phin's could save over 10M by picking 4th instead of 1st for example. I would be cool with Miami grabbing Jake Long, if for no other reason than Seattle (and everyone else) can continue to maul the Rams O-line. :-)
fwiw Jake Long is not as good as last years top tackle Joe Thomas who went at #3 overall to Cleveland. But I think Long will be great and whoever gets him, they will not be sorry.
The countdown continues... :hyper:
NFL Draft
16 DAYS 02 HRS 49 MIN 44 SEC
great points...
and of all the guys parcels could get away w/ paying the least, I'd say it would be gholston ... ...
dorsey doesn't play in a 3-4 currently either & he'd prolly couldn't handle adding 20-30lbs to his frame now & anchor the 3-4....
but Parcels did just bring Fergusson over from the cowboys & he's a pretty stout NT ....he had a bad knee injury last year & I'm guessing thats why the boys let him go so easily.... so the tuna may already have a starting NT in fergusson, then they'd have dorsey lineup at weakside DT ...
countdown is right....this is real drama this year man !!....so many great players !!...so many teams in need !! :hyper:
also, as to the Pats & a cornerback.... there is a scenario that COULD work for them.... if gholston, both longs, dorsey & albert are all gone, then it COULD be worth it for the Pats to take Cromartie as their 7th round pick... I didn't realize he has 4.3 speed :o...
cromartie is faster than his brother & they even say he's a better athlete ....if so, being that the pats coldn't get the better guys up top, Cromartie would be of great use since he could play in the NFL this season & at least hang w/ any receiver in the league & flatout outrun most of them.... hmmmm
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Hey JCC. Looks like your doing your own due diligence here, lol. We agree about the importance of the front seven but Cromartie is a damn fine pick especially if the guys you mention are gone. (and minus Albert I've long maintained those guys would be gone) It would not be easy to pass on Sedric Ellis or a o-tackle but I agree with you that Cromartie can start right away and that's no small thing.
Miami will be on the road to recovery with Parcels there even when they can't trade down. Heck, they still got like nine draft picks and two in the first round. (If you count the top of "round two" as number 32 ovverall given the Pats forfit) Of course, I still don't know what the heck they are going to do with those picks. LOL
Cool sidenote, now the draft is only 5 DAYS 21 HRS 42 MIN and 22 SEC's away! :p
if cromartie is ANYTHING like his brother, peyton manning is TOAST for sure !! :lmao:
think about this..
rodney harrison, ty law & now antonio cromartie are THE peyton manning killers..... between the 3 of them, they've picked him off over a 12 times or so....
think about this scenario, ty law getting resigned in NE, & they pick up the rookie cromartie & he's even a fraction of his brother ....
that'd be 3 peyton manning predators on NE at the same time :naughty: ....
well, we'll see... I think I'd still rather have gholston or dorsey as far as defense goes.... in fact I know it
and remember, there are at least 12 top notch cornerbacks in this draft...the Pats can always pick 1 up in the later rounds (like they did w/ Assante Samuel)
most mock drafts have cromartie 3rd or 4th on the cornerback list, which means he may not be taken until late in the 2nd round....but what do most of these mock drafters know :p
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more BEARS want 'new contracts' (ie:, or want a trade) ...
first B Urlacher, then Tommy Harris, now DEVIN HESTER ...
ouch...
my advice... RUN DEVIN RUN :o ...get the hell out of chicago !!...
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2008/04/deion_hester_isnt_happy_with_h.html
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more BEARS want 'new contracts' (ie:, or want a trade) ...
first B Urlacher, then Tommy Harris, now DEVIN HESTER ...
ouch...
my advice... RUN DEVIN RUN :o ...get the hell out of chicago !!...
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2008/04/deion_hester_isnt_happy_with_h.html
I wouldn't mind seeing him in ATL. But I know it won't happen.
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more BEARS want 'new contracts' (ie:, or want a trade) ...
first B Urlacher, then Tommy Harris, now DEVIN HESTER ...
ouch...
my advice... RUN DEVIN RUN :o ...get the hell out of chicago !!...
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2008/04/deion_hester_isnt_happy_with_h.html
I wouldn't mind seeing him in ATL. But I know it won't happen.
the one guy da bears will not part w/ anytime soon, will be devin hester....
he is their #1 attraction these days & they will keep him until his contract runs out and then franchise that guy as long as they can...
he's trapped because everyone wants him, but no one can afford him because how do you pay a 'special teams' player 60 million ?? ...you can't, unless you plan on having B & C players occupying 1/2 the other spots on the team (more important spots as well)...
plus people do not realize how good chicagos special teams are ....Hester is a remarkable talent, but I dare say he wouldn't have had a fraction of his success playing on most other teams in the league ...(because they have BAD special teams play)...
1/2 the time hester runs the ball back, he's got a convoy of blockers surrounding him....
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hey steel...
just read up on Derrick Harvey from florida....
and, he is more Pats material than I expected ...
of course, not a DE, but, a 3-4 OLB ....
he's only 276 lbs, but he's tall /fast.... & he's a great pass rusher & excellent overall football player.... they could shave him down a bit if necessary, but considering A Thomas is 270 lbs, Harvey may not need to lose any weight...
hmmmm :p ....so much to choose from !!
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WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...
this is big news...
Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...
many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...
maybe the bungles & cards can swap ?? ::)
however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
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WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...
this is big news...
Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...
many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...
maybe the bungles & cards can swap ?? ::)
however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this. I don't think Johnson is going anywhere. Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick. I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move. And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald. He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.
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WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...
this is big news...
Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...
many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...
maybe the bungles & cards can swap ?? ::)
however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this. I don't think Johnson is going anywhere. Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick. I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move. And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald. He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.
marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...
unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...
what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis & booting out ALL riff-raff.... that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course)
yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great
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WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...
this is big news...
Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...
many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...
maybe the bungles & cards can swap ?? ::)
however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this. I don't think Johnson is going anywhere. Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick. I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move. And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald. He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.
marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...
unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...
what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis & booting out ALL riff-raff.... that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course)
yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great
Farking.. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Cincinnati should (likely won't) trade Chad away. Hey-soos on a pogo-stick just look at what the Chiefs got for Allen!
Vikes, Chiefs make blockbuster deal for DE Allen
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8061676/Vikes,-Chiefs-make-blockbuster-deal-for-DE-Allen
The former Chiefs player has agreed to terms with the Vikings, Allen told FOXSports.com exclusively, on a contract that makes him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. The deal is for six years and just under $74 million, including a stunning $31,000,069 guaranteed — 69 is his jersey number.
The Vikings will give up their 2008 first-round draft pick as well as two third-rounders, and the teams will swap sixth-round picks.
Boldin has the same trouble as Ocho though. He's under contract. I think Boldin has the same agent as Ocho-Stupido too which may mean trouble ahead. The big difference is Boldin deserves a new contract. Chad Johnson has his contract improved twice in his time in Cincy. (what a douche... I hope the moron does sit out. And I like my Bungles)
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WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...
this is big news...
Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...
many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...
maybe the bungles & cards can swap ?? ::)
however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this. I don't think Johnson is going anywhere. Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick. I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move. And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald. He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.
marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...
unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...
what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis & booting out ALL riff-raff.... that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course)
yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great
Farking.. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Cincinnati should (likely won't) trade Chad away. Hey-soos on a pogo-stick just look at what the Chiefs got for Allen!
Vikes, Chiefs make blockbuster deal for DE Allen
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8061676/Vikes,-Chiefs-make-blockbuster-deal-for-DE-Allen
The former Chiefs player has agreed to terms with the Vikings, Allen told FOXSports.com exclusively, on a contract that makes him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. The deal is for six years and just under $74 million, including a stunning $31,000,069 guaranteed — 69 is his jersey number.
The Vikings will give up their 2008 first-round draft pick as well as two third-rounders, and the teams will swap sixth-round picks.
Boldin has the same trouble as Ocho though. He's under contract. I think Boldin has the same agent as Ocho-Stupido too which may mean trouble ahead. The big difference is Boldin deserves a new contract. Chad Johnson has his contract improved twice in his time in Cincy. (what a douche... I hope the moron does sit out. And I like my Bungles)
hence, marvin lewis's fault... these liberals never learn do they?? ... they should've never caved for chad in the 1st place...
and yeah, boldin is better & he's got better character to a certain degree...
cincy is a LOST CAUSE man....
ocho stupido is one of NFL networks role models & cameo guys .......and the dumbass owners can't seem to figure out why their players cause more problems everyyear :mental:
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WR Boldin wants a trade from AZ ...
this is big news...
Boldin is at least top 4 WRs in the NFL...
many people think he's better than L Fitzgerald & more durable...
maybe the bungles & cards can swap ?? ::)
however, would love to see the Pats pounce on Boldin :naughty:
This is the first I've heard of this. I don't think Johnson is going anywhere. Marvin Lewis is trying to prove he has the bigger dick. I like that he's standing up to Johnson, but it's not a good business move. And Boldin is better than Fitzgerald. He'll be a great pickup for whoever gets hmi.
marvin lewis is prolly THE WORST headcoach we've seen since the Jets of the mid 1990's...what was that coaches name ?? at least billick faked it well these past few years & had Ray Lewis to keep his convicts in line...
unless of course lewis isn't allowed to pick players &/or discipline.... if so, then their ConnAir / Longest Yard personel isn't his fault...
what needs to happen in Cincy, is FIRING marvin lewis & booting out ALL riff-raff.... that prolly includes chad johnson & pretty much ALL of lewis's picks (cept for palmer of course)
yeah, they need to trade johnson & someone WILL pay for him......he's great
Farking.. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Cincinnati should (likely won't) trade Chad away. Hey-soos on a pogo-stick just look at what the Chiefs got for Allen!
Vikes, Chiefs make blockbuster deal for DE Allen
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8061676/Vikes,-Chiefs-make-blockbuster-deal-for-DE-Allen
The former Chiefs player has agreed to terms with the Vikings, Allen told FOXSports.com exclusively, on a contract that makes him the highest paid defensive player in NFL history. The deal is for six years and just under $74 million, including a stunning $31,000,069 guaranteed — 69 is his jersey number.
The Vikings will give up their 2008 first-round draft pick as well as two third-rounders, and the teams will swap sixth-round picks.
Boldin has the same trouble as Ocho though. He's under contract. I think Boldin has the same agent as Ocho-Stupido too which may mean trouble ahead. The big difference is Boldin deserves a new contract. Chad Johnson has his contract improved twice in his time in Cincy. (what a douche... I hope the moron does sit out. And I like my Bungles)
hence, marvin lewis's fault... these liberals never learn do they?? ... they should've never caved for chad in the 1st place...
and yeah, boldin is better & he's got better character to a certain degree...
cincy is a LOST CAUSE man....
ocho stupido is one of NFL networks role models & cameo guys .......and the dumbass owners can't seem to figure out why their players cause more problems everyyear :mental:
Yeah, Lewis has been bad news. One look at the Bengals schedule ought to be enough to tell you he is in his last year. Gunna be a long year down at the local pub in my Housh shirt. (hey, I can't wear all Tatupu all the time, people look at you funny)
Marvin Lewis farewell tour...
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamSchedule?categoryId=67041
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OK... that was post whoring. :p
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Pats just signed Defensive Lineman Kenny Smith...
a guy they cut from training camp last year....
probably nothing, but it could mean they won't be picking sedrick ellis ??
I say the Jets are after Vernon gholston at this point...
they lost two starting LB's & they've picked up only 1 & they're a 3-4 D... plus, as the joke rebel yell posted said, "mangini is more concerned w/ trying to get belichick than anything else', and word was gholston was the Pats pick since sometime last year.....
and either gholston, long or dorsey WILL still prolly be around at #6 ...
the PATS are gonna try & move up to the chiefs spot .... does herm have hard feelings towards the JETS ?? cause they are trying to grab that spot too....if so, SORRY NY, herm gives you the FINGER :bird: ...
Pats move up to the chiefs spot & either grab gholston or dorsey if he's still around, or trade that spot to the saints for EVERYTHING the saints got that ain't tied down :naughty: ....unless of course the rams swap w/ the saints....
it would work for the chiefs because they need Oline & at the #7 spot they will still have their choice of clady, albert or one of the other big boys, but will see a significant dropoff in salary at #7 ...
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Pacman Jones to Cowboys (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmhkvpMrwqAkA_r7eNHDe9EyNbgF?slug=ap-pacman-traded&prov=ap&type=lgns)
I wonder how long it will be before he and TO rumble?
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Pacman Jones to Cowboys (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmhkvpMrwqAkA_r7eNHDe9EyNbgF?slug=ap-pacman-traded&prov=ap&type=lgns)
I wonder how long it will be before he and TO rumble?
shoooot....
he & TO will prolly become partners in TO's 'other career' .... (ie, internet porn) ... it sperfect, pacman has a knack for seeking out hookers (ie: strip clubs) & TO already seems to have a knack for making porno (& lots of money) http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2153532#post2153532
chances are, these two will end up in federal prison if paired up together :loser: ...
me thinks goodell may not let pacman back into the league this year... odell thurman sat out two years for his baffoonery & I think pacman will too considering pacman loose in dallas, with TO, could be a nightmare for goodell & the NFL... (don't forget about Tank Johnson)
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...
but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....
you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...
don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories for profits ...
its rare today to have a franchise like the Patriots, whose owner is smart & 100% dedicated to VICTORY above all else (or he loses his ass because he's the ONLY owner who actually had to pay for his own stadium)
miami dolphins owner obviously isn't one of those 100% dedicated to victory....but bringing parcels in is a HUGE step in the right direction
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...
but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....
you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...
don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories for profits ...
I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him. I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats. Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had. Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think. The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow. No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long. ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams. Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games. Sad.
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...
but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....
you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...
don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories for profits ...
I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him. I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats. Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had. Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think. The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow. No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long. ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams. Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games. Sad.
exactly why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to... (huge black population too & last time I checked, drew brees ain't black :lmao:)
LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:
LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....
no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...
but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....
you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...
don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories for profits ...
I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him. I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats. Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had. Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think. The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow. No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long. ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams. Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games. Sad.
exactly why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to...
LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:
LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....
no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
ATL had a good O Line. It's just hard to block when you don't know where in the hell you QB is gonna be. And it wasn't the podunks that were filling the GA Dome during the Vick era. It was ALWAYS dark in the GA Dome.
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I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
From your article...
"The only way Jason Taylor won't be playing for the Dolphins in 2008 is if he chooses to retire," Parcells said.
I tend to think Parcells means that, though he could just be pushing the price up. One thing I can't see is Parcells letting Taylor go to the Pats. (so the Phins can loose by 40 intead of 30 pts?? lol)
I tend to agree with Reb that there will not be a run on QB's in round one. Though, the Chiefs are sure to get one now that they have two high first round picks so who knows. Maybe I'm wrong... hell, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see a bunch of QB's go in round one and have one of the better O-linemen fall to Seattle at 25. If they can't get one, I hope a team like Miami or Atlanta trades up with Seattle for extra picks.
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...
but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....
you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...
don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories for profits ...
I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him. I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats. Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had. Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think. The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow. No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long. ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams. Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games. Sad.
exactly why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to...
LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:
LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....
no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
ATL had a good O Line. It's just hard to block when you don't know where in the hell you QB is gonna be. And it wasn't the podunks that were filling the GA Dome during the Vick era. It was ALWAYS dark in the GA Dome.
bwahahahahahaaaa ....
and yeah, the falcons had a good line....but not as good as san diego & LT would've still been real good...
but drew brees has a tendancy to get OWNED in the playoffs, so I think your fate would've been the same w/ brees/LT, as it was w/ Vick & all those other running backs when it came to crunchtime in the playoffs ( minus all the extra $$$ cause Vicks show was starring somewhere else)
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Here is a model of Dallas' new uniforms.
(http://halloweencostumeboutique.com/images/3034.jpg)
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Jason Taylor on the trading block now
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-flspdoltaylor24sbapr24,0,4078579.story
Patriots ?
Cowboys ?
Chargers ?
whoops...did I say steelers?? ...I tried to keep the options limited to REAL CONTENDERS using a 3-4 D :lmao:
then again, taylor has been a 4-3 DE 99% of his career, but, w/ his age, he may be limited to being an OLB in a 3-4 ....as well as only wanting to play for someone who has a chance at a SB ...
Jaguars aren't 3-4, but that would be a nice fit
Interesting article but do you really think the Phins have to move up from 32 to get Chad Henne? I guess there could be a run on QB's but I'm not convinced.
How funny would it be if Miami got Jake Long, Chad Henne and then nab Mike Hart around the fourth round or so? LOL Hey, it's not like the Dolphins have to play Appalachian State you know.
:lmao:
I was actually more impressed w/ Chad Henne than any of these supposedly better QB's in this years class...
but Parcels ain't getting mike hart first & foremost.... parcels needs him another Otis Anderson before he goes w/ lightning...
and thats why I think if the Fins are gonna deal Taylor, it will have to either be for BIG BUCKS or fairly high draft pick on a team thas a CONTENDER ..(ie : patriots) the rest of the pack is 20 plus
and ALOT of teams need QB's.... & at least the vikings, bears would be better off w/ any of the new class than what they have now...
rumors are starting to surface about da bears trying to move up too (which could be a move at a QB)
Which is why I say Brohm will be available in the second round for ATL to wait on. No need to take Ryan 3rd overall.
what if they're after brohm ?
brohm, henne, flacco & ryan may go in the 1st round... or earlier than the falcons pick in the 2nd round (miami)
I just can't see the four of them going in the first round, maybe two. None of them are enough of a sure thing to take 3rd overall, of course I didn't like them taking Vick first overall, either. And dogfighting not withstanding, I was right.
anyone who's ever played football beyond grade school knew Vick wasn't a 'great' QB for the NFL ...
but you do understand that many of these teams just want 'the name' ?? ....
you do realize that never in the history of the atlanta falcons have they made as much money as they have now after drafting M Vick...
don't forget about the business end of this & alot of these owners will compromise victories for profits ...
I understand that, and I knew why they drafted him. I think LT and consecutive winning seasons (which they have never had) would put just as many asses in the seats. Especially considering how many more years of LT they could have had. Over the long haul they could have made more money, plus they could have gotten Drew Brees in the second round that year, I think. The Vick money making machine was running on fumes anyway, people were already getting tired of the losing sideshow. No sports team has ever kept the fans in ATL interested that long. ATL has piss poor sports fans, it's us in podunk GA that are really fans of the ATL teams. Hel, the Braves could even sell out while winning their division every year, not even the playoff games. Sad.
exactly why a good ole boy like Vick handling the ball more than anyone on the field, was exactly the kind of razzle dazzle the dumbass podunks in GA were lured to...
LT would've DIED down there, as well as drew brees .... the one man show was a very wise move, considering that nearly everyone else on the team was a hair above useless (because any body can at least get in the way for a 2nd or so) :lmao:
LT needed lots of blocking & san diego under martyball accomadated....
no such luck in atlanta & LT would be a shell of himself today if he had been exiled to atlanta
ATL had a good O Line. It's just hard to block when you don't know where in the hell you QB is gonna be. And it wasn't the podunks that were filling the GA Dome during the Vick era. It was ALWAYS dark in the GA Dome.
bwahahahahahaaaa ....
and yeah, the falcons had a good line....but not as good as san diego & LT would've still been real good...
but drew brees has a tendancy to get OWNED in the playoffs, so I think your fate would've been the same w/ brees/LT, as it was w/ Vick & all those other running backs when it came to crunchtime in the playoffs ( minus all the extra $$$ cause Vicks show was starring somewhere else)
To quote Jim Mora, Playoffs!!!!???. Let me repeat, the franchise has never had back to back winning campaigns, never. Granted, Vick did win in Green Bay, but that was the high point of his career. What the Falcons need is consistency. And a QB with a little accuracy. Vick could hit water if he fell out of a ****in' boat. With at least the threat of completing a pass, the running game would flourish. Little Warwick Dunn looked damned good when he wasn't having to share carries because he was too little to be an every down back, which was bullshit.
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Here is a model of Dallas' new uniforms.
(http://halloweencostumeboutique.com/images/3034.jpg)
Also available with Bengal stripes. :bawl:
LOL
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Here is a model of Dallas' new uniforms.
(http://halloweencostumeboutique.com/images/3034.jpg)
Also available with Bengal stripes. :bawl:
LOL
bwahahahahahahaaa....
thats about right :lmao:
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hey rebel yell,
you mean like the consistency drew brees gave the Saints these last two years ... :uhsure:
drew brees was dead last in the NFL until mid season last year....
but one thing he was consistent about was, CHOKING in the playoffs (got slaughtered by the Bears & Broncos in both playoff performances) ..
just let it go man !!! ....brees & LT are gone man.....let it go !!! :lmao:
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
ryan leaf played in the NFL for 9 years ...
and NOBODY ever got the special treatment peyton womanning got...
I dare say there is only one peyton manning & nobody compares to him (not in a goodway either)....Brady came close at times as far as getting BULLSHIT calls, but that dried up 5 years ...
if womanning played for the sorry assed chargers during their transition years like ryan leaf & if womanning didn't get all the easy schedules & bullshit calls from the refs, he could've very easily turned out like ryan leaf...
plus you had an entire organization that bent over for manning & neglected the rest of the team for 7 years ...thats not exactly common...
joe montana, john elway, troy aikman , both mannings, jim kelly & dan marino were all 1st rounders, weren't they ??
thats 20 superbowls right there...
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
ryan leaf played in the NFL for 9 years ...
and NOBODY ever got the special treatment peyton womanning got...
I dare say there is only one peyton manning & nobody compares to him (not in a goodway either)....Brady came close at times as far as getting BULLSHIT calls, but that dried up 5 years ...
if womanning played for the sorry assed chargers during their transition years like ryan leaf & if womanning didn't get all the easy schedules & bullshit calls from the refs, he could've very easily turned out like ryan leaf...
plus you had an entire organization that bent over for manning & neglected the rest of the team for 7 years ...thats not exactly common...
OK, for every Dan Marino, there are three Heath Shulers. I should have known better then to go Manning with you. :banghead: :lmao:
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
ryan leaf played in the NFL for 9 years ...
and NOBODY ever got the special treatment peyton womanning got...
I dare say there is only one peyton manning & nobody compares to him (not in a goodway either)....Brady came close at times as far as getting BULLSHIT calls, but that dried up 5 years ...
if womanning played for the sorry assed chargers during their transition years like ryan leaf & if womanning didn't get all the easy schedules & bullshit calls from the refs, he could've very easily turned out like ryan leaf...
plus you had an entire organization that bent over for manning & neglected the rest of the team for 7 years ...thats not exactly common...
OK, for every Dan Marino, there are three Heath Shulers. I should have known better then to go Manning with you. :banghead: :lmao:
joe montana, john elway, troy aikman , both mannings, jim kelly & dan marino were all 1st rounders, weren't they ??
thats 20 superbowls right there...
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
ryan leaf played in the NFL for 9 years ...
and NOBODY ever got the special treatment peyton womanning got...
I dare say there is only one peyton manning & nobody compares to him (not in a goodway either)....Brady came close at times as far as getting BULLSHIT calls, but that dried up 5 years ...
if womanning played for the sorry assed chargers during their transition years like ryan leaf & if womanning didn't get all the easy schedules & bullshit calls from the refs, he could've very easily turned out like ryan leaf...
plus you had an entire organization that bent over for manning & neglected the rest of the team for 7 years ...thats not exactly common...
OK, for every Dan Marino, there are three Heath Shulers. I should have known better then to go Manning with you. :banghead: :lmao:
joe montana, john elway, troy aikman , both mannings, jim kelly & dan marino were all 1st rounders, weren't they ??
thats 20 superbowls right there...
Aikman, P. Manning, Elway and I'd add Terry Bradshaw (4 more SB's btw) all went number one overall. (but plenty of David Carr's and Tim Couch's too)
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
ryan leaf played in the NFL for 9 years ...
and NOBODY ever got the special treatment peyton womanning got...
I dare say there is only one peyton manning & nobody compares to him (not in a goodway either)....Brady came close at times as far as getting BULLSHIT calls, but that dried up 5 years ...
if womanning played for the sorry assed chargers during their transition years like ryan leaf & if womanning didn't get all the easy schedules & bullshit calls from the refs, he could've very easily turned out like ryan leaf...
plus you had an entire organization that bent over for manning & neglected the rest of the team for 7 years ...thats not exactly common...
OK, for every Dan Marino, there are three Heath Shulers. I should have known better then to go Manning with you. :banghead: :lmao:
joe montana, john elway, troy aikman , both mannings, jim kelly & dan marino were all 1st rounders, weren't they ??
thats 20 superbowls right there...
Joe Montana? I really expected better of you.
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Just don't like taking QB's that high in the draft, never have. Always more risk than upside, for every Peyton Manning there are 3 Ryan Leafs.
ryan leaf played in the NFL for 9 years ...
and NOBODY ever got the special treatment peyton womanning got...
I dare say there is only one peyton manning & nobody compares to him (not in a goodway either)....Brady came close at times as far as getting BULLSHIT calls, but that dried up 5 years ...
if womanning played for the sorry assed chargers during their transition years like ryan leaf & if womanning didn't get all the easy schedules & bullshit calls from the refs, he could've very easily turned out like ryan leaf...
plus you had an entire organization that bent over for manning & neglected the rest of the team for 7 years ...thats not exactly common...
OK, for every Dan Marino, there are three Heath Shulers. I should have known better then to go Manning with you. :banghead: :lmao:
joe montana, john elway, troy aikman , both mannings, jim kelly & dan marino were all 1st rounders, weren't they ??
thats 20 superbowls right there...
Joe Montana? I really expected better of you.
bwahahahaha :lmao: ....
ok 30 superbowls for 1st rounders out of the last 35 eh ? :-) .... (added steve young, ben roethlisberger, drew bledsoe, kerry collins, steve mcnair, trent diler, D mcnabb, jim plunket, wrex grossman & jim mcmahon) emboldened QB's won their SB's...
not too shabby for 1st round draft picks ??
plus joe montana was a STAR when he was allowed to slide down to the 3rd round....I remember hearing about & watching the famous notre dame QB 24-7 his senior year ...
so basically, 1st round draft picks have these two qualities:
1. celebrity status
2. 80% chance or more of getting your team to a superbowl ...
drew brees a 1st round pick ?? ... no SB's for him....we'll have to add him to the heath shuler/ryan leaf category eh ? :lmao:
but one thing is for sure, is that its hard to build a DYNASTY around a 1st round pick, because that 1st rounder just costs you too much money ...therefore, aside from the impoverished days of the NFL when bradshaw won 4 SBs, both Tom Bradys 6th round ass & Montana 3rd round, definitly provided enough wiggle room for coaches to pay the other 51 players & stock that team to the gills...
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Fins get Fasano & Adoyele from Dallas !!
wow, watch out for this fins team man !!
adoyele was the boys starting weakside LB these past 2 years & Fasano is prolly as good as jason whitten at TE...
cowboys just made a dumb mistake....
1. making zach thomas their starter while dumping their YOUNGER starter
2. dumping Fasano
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Fins get Fasano & Adoyele from Dallas !!
wow, watch out for this fins team man !!
adoyele was the boys starting weakside LB these past 2 years & Fasano is prolly as good as jason whitten at TE...
cowboys just made a dumb mistake....
1. making zach thomas their starter while dumping their YOUNGER starter
2. dumping Fasano
BS. First, Ayodele was an inside 'backer and we've got plenty of linebackers anyway. It opens up a spot for Carpenter to step up (if he ever does). Second, saying that Fasano is just as good as Witten is like saying that Aaron Rodgers is just as good as Brett Favre. Fasano may be good, but he's nowhere near Witten.
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Fins get Fasano & Adoyele from Dallas !!
wow, watch out for this fins team man !!
adoyele was the boys starting weakside LB these past 2 years & Fasano is prolly as good as jason whitten at TE...
cowboys just made a dumb mistake....
1. making zach thomas their starter while dumping their YOUNGER starter
2. dumping Fasano
BS. First, Ayodele was an inside 'backer and we've got plenty of linebackers anyway. It opens up a spot for Carpenter to step up (if he ever does). Second, saying that Fasano is just as good as Witten is like saying that Aaron Rodgers is just as good as Brett Favre. Fasano may be good, but he's nowhere near Witten.
yeah, just like kevin boss wasn't anywhere near Jeremy Shockey ....(ie: the week after shockey is lost for the season, the Giants went on a rampage & won nearly every game the rest of the year & the SB)
the Fins made out on this deal & I'd say the Wade Phillips & uncontested Jerry Jones era has officially begun (parcels & johnson kept JJ in line, wade won't)....
looking at the boys WASTE of 1st round draft picks & other offseason shenannigans, I'd say this will be the boys last year of being taken serious.....
adios cowboys...
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Fins get Fasano & Adoyele from Dallas !!
wow, watch out for this fins team man !!
adoyele was the boys starting weakside LB these past 2 years & Fasano is prolly as good as jason whitten at TE...
cowboys just made a dumb mistake....
1. making zach thomas their starter while dumping their YOUNGER starter
2. dumping Fasano
BS. First, Ayodele was an inside 'backer and we've got plenty of linebackers anyway. It opens up a spot for Carpenter to step up (if he ever does). Second, saying that Fasano is just as good as Witten is like saying that Aaron Rodgers is just as good as Brett Favre. Fasano may be good, but he's nowhere near Witten.
yeah, just like kevin boss wasn't anywhere near Jeremy Shockey ....(ie: the week after shockey is lost for the season, the Giants went on a rampage & won nearly every game the rest of the year & the SB)
the Fins made out on this deal & I'd say the Wade Phillips & uncontested Jerry Jones era has officially begun (parcels & johnson kept JJ in line, wade won't)....
looking at the boys WASTE of 1st round draft picks & other offseason shenannigans, I'd say this will be the boys last year of being taken serious.....
adios cowboys...
Waste of first round picks? They made out like bandits! I would have preferred that they waited to take Jammal Charles, but they got a guy who, despite backing up McFadden, had 3,000 carer rushing yards. He was made for the two back system, and he's the perfect counterbalance to Barber. In fact, they got great players with all of their first four picks. Even if one of them was an Aggie.
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Fins get Fasano & Adoyele from Dallas !!
wow, watch out for this fins team man !!
adoyele was the boys starting weakside LB these past 2 years & Fasano is prolly as good as jason whitten at TE...
cowboys just made a dumb mistake....
1. making zach thomas their starter while dumping their YOUNGER starter
2. dumping Fasano
BS. First, Ayodele was an inside 'backer and we've got plenty of linebackers anyway. It opens up a spot for Carpenter to step up (if he ever does). Second, saying that Fasano is just as good as Witten is like saying that Aaron Rodgers is just as good as Brett Favre. Fasano may be good, but he's nowhere near Witten.
yeah, just like kevin boss wasn't anywhere near Jeremy Shockey ....(ie: the week after shockey is lost for the season, the Giants went on a rampage & won nearly every game the rest of the year & the SB)
the Fins made out on this deal & I'd say the Wade Phillips & uncontested Jerry Jones era has officially begun (parcels & johnson kept JJ in line, wade won't)....
looking at the boys WASTE of 1st round draft picks & other offseason shenannigans, I'd say this will be the boys last year of being taken serious.....
adios cowboys...
Waste of first round picks? They made out like bandits! I would have preferred that they waited to take Jammal Charles, but they got a guy who, despite backing up McFadden, had 3,000 carer rushing yards. He was made for the two back system, and he's the perfect counterbalance to Barber. In fact, they got great players with all of their first four picks. Even if one of them was an Aggie.
felix jones will possibly be an effective kick returner ...?? but I don't think he'll be as effective you think... the key to returning kicks is having NO FEAR ....felix jones entire career in college was made running east to west in open space... (which doesn't exist in the NFL)
felix jones is reggie bush lite & now he'll have too much to lose to risk his ass returning kicks at 200% .. (since JJ took him as his #1 pick) ...
will running east to west work in the NFL ?? .... especially on kick returns ??
neither one of those guys were good first round picks.....especially when you still have mendenhall & charles available.... (many others too)
the cowboys still do not have a pure north /south thumper w/ the ability to take it to the house.....marion barber also likes to run the ball outside & he fumbled ALOT w/ all that 2nd effort last year... I don't think barber will be that great of a 'featured back', because he will wear down & take too many chances fighting for extra yards & cough up the ball ...
I think your running game will have the same problems it had last year.....
and I know your defense will even have more problems this year ...you got NO ANCHORS on that 3-4 dline
jerry jones should've traded up for Mcfadden if he was really looking for a two back system & then just picked up a corner in the 2nd round... or better yet, they should've traded up for Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis & picked up a RB in the 2nd round ... when you have 2 1st rounders, the world is your oyster & I don't see the cowboys ANYWHERE near the level the chiefs just got in their 4 best picks.. (dorsey, albert, flowers & charles)
and you have PACMAN too ....hell...how many cornerbacks do you need ??
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Well, I don't think we'll have the same problems with the running game this year, because now he's up in Seattle. :lmao:
That being said, we could afford to gamble on these selections because we didn't have any gaping holes. I'll admit that I know absolutely nothing about Felix Jones (because from the moment we traded for that Cleveland pick, the talk about the Cowboys has revolved around the other Arkansas running back), but Jerry Jones does know something about him, and that's hopefully enough.
As for having cornerbacks, two things. First, we don't even have Pac-Man yet. We don't know whether he'll be reinstated or not. Second, remember that our starters are aging (Henry's over 30 and Newman soon will be) and they didn't play together that much last year. If Pac-Man gets reinstated and Jenkins pans out, the Cowboys will be set at that position for quite a while.
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Well, I don't think we'll have the same problems with the running game this year, because now he's up in Seattle. :lmao:
That being said, we could afford to gamble on these selections because we didn't have any gaping holes. I'll admit that I know absolutely nothing about Felix Jones (because from the moment we traded for that Cleveland pick, the talk about the Cowboys has revolved around the other Arkansas running back), but Jerry Jones does know something about him, and that's hopefully enough.
As for having cornerbacks, two things. First, we don't even have Pac-Man yet. We don't know whether he'll be reinstated or not. Second, remember that our starters are aging (Henry's over 30 and Newman soon will be) and they didn't play together that much last year. If Pac-Man gets reinstated and Jenkins pans out, the Cowboys will be set at that position for quite a while.
felix jones is prolly a 3rd round pick....Jerry Jones just pulled a chicago bears (ie: cedric benson) .... you tell me how many defenses in college had enough mustard to stop him after having to try n stop darren mcfadden most the game ?? and obviously arkansas had themselves a monsterous & talented Oline, because both those guys ran at will ....(that won't be the case in the NFL )
and yes, you do have a few MAJOR holes that cost you a SB ...
#1 - BEEF on your Dline
#2 - north/ south running back w/ big play threat
#3- WR
your most pressing problem wasn't cornerback ...but yes, you needed a couple , but pacman jones is a BAD idea ....at best, mike jenkins will be a nickel back next year & at least 5 other CB's still available could've done that too....
yeah roy williams gets suckered on the long ball, but whats knew?? ....he always has & I doubt, unless you pulled a F/A move, that you're gonna draft a safety that would be good enough to replace right now anyway...
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Well, I don't think we'll have the same problems with the running game this year, because now he's up in Seattle. :lmao:
That being said, we could afford to gamble on these selections because we didn't have any gaping holes. I'll admit that I know absolutely nothing about Felix Jones (because from the moment we traded for that Cleveland pick, the talk about the Cowboys has revolved around the other Arkansas running back), but Jerry Jones does know something about him, and that's hopefully enough.
As for having cornerbacks, two things. First, we don't even have Pac-Man yet. We don't know whether he'll be reinstated or not. Second, remember that our starters are aging (Henry's over 30 and Newman soon will be) and they didn't play together that much last year. If Pac-Man gets reinstated and Jenkins pans out, the Cowboys will be set at that position for quite a while.
felix jones is prolly a 3rd round pick....Jerry Jones just pulled a chicago bears (ie: cedric benson) .... you tell me how many defenses in college had enough mustard to stop him after having to try n stop darren mcfadden most the game ?? and obviously arkansas had themselves a monsterous & talented Oline, because both those guys ran at will ....(that won't be the case in the NFL )
and yes, you do have a few MAJOR holes that cost you a SB ...
#1 - BEEF on your Dline
#2 - north/ south running back w/ big play threat
#3- WR
your most pressing problem wasn't cornerback ...but yes, you needed a couple , but pacman jones is a BAD idea ....at best, mike jenkins will be a nickel back next year & at least 5 other CB's still available could've done that too....
yeah roy williams gets suckered on the long ball, but whats knew?? ....he always has & I doubt, unless you pulled a F/A move, that you're gonna draft a safety that would be good enough to replace right now anyway...
I won't argue with you that there are some needs that weren't met. I thought particularly that we missed out on getting a true 3-4 DT, but I think that a good rotation at that position helps.
As for WR, I agree with you. The story they're giving on DC.com is that JJ sat down with the staff and basically decided that the status quo was the best route because they didn't feel that there was another receiver in the draft or via trade (no team wanted to trade) that would complement TO. This is a 34 year old guy coming up on a contract year. He won't be here forever. I can only hope that they've really got something with Isaiah Stanback.
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Well, I don't think we'll have the same problems with the running game this year, because now he's up in Seattle. :lmao:
That being said, we could afford to gamble on these selections because we didn't have any gaping holes. I'll admit that I know absolutely nothing about Felix Jones (because from the moment we traded for that Cleveland pick, the talk about the Cowboys has revolved around the other Arkansas running back), but Jerry Jones does know something about him, and that's hopefully enough.
As for having cornerbacks, two things. First, we don't even have Pac-Man yet. We don't know whether he'll be reinstated or not. Second, remember that our starters are aging (Henry's over 30 and Newman soon will be) and they didn't play together that much last year. If Pac-Man gets reinstated and Jenkins pans out, the Cowboys will be set at that position for quite a while.
felix jones is prolly a 3rd round pick....Jerry Jones just pulled a chicago bears (ie: cedric benson) .... you tell me how many defenses in college had enough mustard to stop him after having to try n stop darren mcfadden most the game ?? and obviously arkansas had themselves a monsterous & talented Oline, because both those guys ran at will ....(that won't be the case in the NFL )
and yes, you do have a few MAJOR holes that cost you a SB ...
#1 - BEEF on your Dline
#2 - north/ south running back w/ big play threat
#3- WR
your most pressing problem wasn't cornerback ...but yes, you needed a couple , but pacman jones is a BAD idea ....at best, mike jenkins will be a nickel back next year & at least 5 other CB's still available could've done that too....
yeah roy williams gets suckered on the long ball, but whats knew?? ....he always has & I doubt, unless you pulled a F/A move, that you're gonna draft a safety that would be good enough to replace right now anyway...
I won't argue with you that there are some needs that weren't met. I thought particularly that we missed out on getting a true 3-4 DT, but I think that a good rotation at that position helps.
As for WR, I agree with you. The story they're giving on DC.com is that JJ sat down with the staff and basically decided that the status quo was the best route because they didn't feel that there was another receiver in the draft or via trade (no team wanted to trade) that would complement TO. This is a 34 year old guy coming up on a contract year. He won't be here forever. I can only hope that they've really got something with Isaiah Stanback.
you can't win in the playoffs as a 3-4 defense, if you don't have a true 315lb plus nosetackle, w/ athleticism ....the cowboys are trying to compensate for lacking what they really need, by bringing in untested rookie cornerbacks, who will be required to man up while having little or no help from the safeties (ie: roy williams :lmao:) ... this is a disaster waiting to happen, especially since alot of Parcels guys have left ...
dorsey may have been that guy if he could handle another 10-15lbs on him
maybe wade is gonna switch back to a 4-3 &/or play buddy ball, but either way it will be sloppy for awhile....
but IMO, there defense is what really needed help....christ, wasn't their offense the #2 highest scoring in the NFL last year ?? ....didn't they bulldoze the Giants defense for 1/2 the game in the playoffs last year ?? ... so they could run already...
I think the boys just pissed away their superbowl chances w/ this draft .... but who knows, maybe felix jones will step in from nowhere like thurman thomas, curtis martin, westbrook & be a real game changer (neither won a superbowl either :tongue:) ....
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by the way, whats up w/ some of these teams going ga ga over cornerbacks these days??
heres the reality:
#1- all the teams that gave away everything for cornerbacks, have DONE NOTHING these past few years...
- 49ers
- Broncos
- Packers spent alot on woodson & harris, but did have good success w/ them (cept when it really counted as all harris got OWNED by burress & woodson got steam rolled by jacobs)
-eagles will soon follow
-saints paid alot for jason david & mis-used him into failure
#2- the two teams that were in the SB last year, kept 'cornerback' at the bottom of their to do list ... assante samuel was a 4th round pick for the Pats & the giants 2ndary just flatout sucked
yet, teams like the cowboys & eagles are following a mold that has yet to be proven a winner (spending either top picks &/or overspending on a CB) ....
the ONLY team I can think of that went out of their way to get a CB & have it pay off, was the 49ers when they grabbed deion sanders..... but that was deion sanders....not a single one of these CB's today is anywhere near what deion was (cept maybe antonio cromartie) ...champ was 5 years ago, but no SB's yet...
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atlanta falcons just TRUMP all the other teams 'struggling' who seemingly made out better in the draft...
the falcons just hired the guy responsible for all the recruited talent tEh colts have had these past 10 years...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80816a43&template=with-video&confirm=true
falcons are definitly headed the right direction...