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Title: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 30, 2009, 06:46:56 PM
I don't watch much TV except for cooking and home improvement shows. Be that as it may I watched both seasons of True Blood but got despondent when I realized:

A) it's 7 more months until the next season

B) the acting actually kinda sucks...BAD! It's fang-porn with all the talent that entails. The only character I thought was consistently well-played was MaryAnn and she's dead. Most of the other characters are cheap caricatures. Sam and Eric are the only ones that aren't played over the top.


So anyway I look forward to the next episode of SoA. The acting is a lot better. Henry Rollins is playing a skinhead. The politics have gotten quite Byzantine and the sense of ruthlessness is...exquisite (in one episode they burnt the SoA tattoo off the back of a narc using an acetyline torch).

Discuss.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Texacon on September 30, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
Love it.  I have hung around with folks like this.  Kind of comes with the territory sometimes.  From what I know of 1%'ers from those I have been around ... this show is pretty close to being on target.

KC
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Alpha Mare on September 30, 2009, 07:42:46 PM
I grew up with bikers. You know how hard it is to get a date in high school with 5 brothers and a gang looking over your shoulder?  Sheesh! 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on September 30, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
I simply can not wait until Clay finds out about Gemma.  Though I thought she was going to settle that shit last night, it will build up until I can barely take it and them SAMCRO will lower the freaking boom!  It is so juicy.  I feel like a very sick person because I think Tig is sexy as all get out.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: ReardenSteel on September 30, 2009, 09:21:10 PM
Big props to the website Hulu for having the show.  :cheersmate: (I don't have cable)

I became a big fan of the SoA creator, Kurt Sutter, from his work on The Shield. Mostly his writting but he's not a bad actor either though his parts in both shows are/were limited.

Glad season two is off with a bang, the bar was set pretty high but they have kept rolling along. I want to see more of the Shakespearean influence and know what really happened to the club founder. (Jax's real dad) I really wanted to see Tara knock out that porno witch but her "revenge" was even better than a punch in the jaw. lol

Good show!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 30, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
I became a big fan of the SoA creator, Kurt Sutter, from his work on The Shield. Mostly his writting but he's not a bad actor either though his parts in both shows are/were limited.

Good show!

That's why I started watching too.  Last season was good IMHO, but didn't blow me away.  The first four episodes this season have been FANTASTIC.

Don't know if you noticed or not, but his Sutter's character "Otto" looks like he's going to run into some trouble next week, based on the previews.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: ReardenSteel on September 30, 2009, 10:37:53 PM
That's why I started watching too.  Last season was good IMHO, but didn't blow me away.  The first four episodes this season have been FANTASTIC.

Don't know if you noticed or not, but his Sutter's character "Otto" looks like he's going to run into some trouble next week, based on the previews.

Watching on Hulu I may be a bit behind other fans. They get the rights to air the show a week after it airs on cable (I think).

In any case, I agree, very good show going on here.

fwiw- I own every season of The Shield and have seen every episode at least twice (or more) plus all the commentary and bonus features. One of the best shows ever, lol.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Texacon on October 01, 2009, 08:23:29 AM
It's really kind of odd how the show gets you to 'rooting' for the bad guys. 

KC
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 01, 2009, 09:05:23 AM
It's really kind of odd how the show gets you to 'rooting' for the bad guys. 

KC
Americans have a soft spot for anti-heroes who live outside conventional society, i.e. Clint Eastwood's Man-with-no-name.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 01, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
Plus, who likes Aryans?  They are just a big bunch of douchebags.  The only fight I would have to root for the Aryans in is Aryans VS. Pedophiles.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Texacon on October 01, 2009, 09:42:01 AM
Plus, who likes Aryans?  They are just a big bunch of douchebags.  The only fight I would have to root for the Aryans in is Aryans VS. Pedophiles.

Yeah but SOA gets you to rooting for SAMCRO over the cops .... I just find it odd.  Granted .. a couple of the cops are dirty but still, it makes you think.

KC
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 01, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
Yeah but SOA gets you to rooting for SAMCRO over the cops .... I just find it odd.  Granted .. a couple of the cops are dirty but still, it makes you think.

KC
I'm curious to see if Unser can get through to Hale next week.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 01, 2009, 01:23:05 PM
I doubt it.  I think Hale will get hit in the massive cross fire from SAMCRO and Douchenazis
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 01, 2009, 01:35:05 PM
I doubt it.  I think Hale will get hit in the massive cross fire from SAMCRO and Douchenazis

 :rotf:

At least they are entertaining characters.  Arkin & Rollins are a hoot.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 01, 2009, 01:54:14 PM
They seriously skeeze me out!  It is bizarre how they get people to play these completely unlikeable characters on there.  I would have never guessed that Mitch Pileggi would play a neo-nazi on there too.  I also find it funny that Adam Arkin is Jewish and playing the role he is playing.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 01, 2009, 02:05:54 PM
They seriously skeeze me out!  It is bizarre how they get people to play these completely unlikeable characters on there.  I would have never guessed that Mitch Pileggi would play a neo-nazi on there too.  I also find it funny that Adam Arkin is Jewish and playing the role he is playing.
I hear he really got into character and had himself uncircumcized.

 :o
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 01, 2009, 02:08:44 PM
They seriously skeeze me out!  It is bizarre how they get people to play these completely unlikeable characters on there.  I would have never guessed that Mitch Pileggi would play a neo-nazi on there too.  I also find it funny that Adam Arkin is Jewish and playing the role he is playing.

If you haven't ever seen it, Kurt Sutter's blog is pretty interesting:

http://sutterink.blogspot.com/

BTW, he is a liberal, but it's still a good read.  No spoilers, just some talk of what's brewing on the show, usually months before they even air.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: BEG on October 01, 2009, 02:29:36 PM
Oh I think I should add this show to my list of shows to watch.  Dexter started this past Sunday.  It looks like this season is going to be most excellent. 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Texacon on October 01, 2009, 03:15:49 PM
Oh I think I should add this show to my list of shows to watch.  Dexter started this past Sunday.  It looks like this season is going to be most excellent. 

Be aware BEG.  Don't watch this with your kids unless you don't mind them seeing some pretty raw stuff.  This isn't your ordinary TV show.

KC
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: BEG on October 01, 2009, 03:19:43 PM
Be aware BEG.  Don't watch this with your kids unless you don't mind them seeing some pretty raw stuff.  This isn't your ordinary TV show.

KC

Oh I know...thanks for the warning though. 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2009, 03:44:35 PM
This show kicks ass.
The choice given last season, "Knife or fire", yeah, **** it, just shoot me...
It isn't gonna blow when Clay finds out about Gemma, but, when Jacks does.
Mamacags, Tig? Really? I could see Jacks or Juice, but, TIG? EWWW. Why not just lust after Bobby or Piney?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2009, 03:48:04 PM
Half Sack:"It's actually a crystal ball, it tells the future of my penis"
Chibs:"And hows that workin out for ya?"
Half Sack:"Pretty good"
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Gratiot on October 01, 2009, 06:28:52 PM
I became a big fan of the SoA creator, Kurt Sutter, from his work on The Shield. Mostly his writting but he's not a bad actor either though his parts in both shows are/were limited.

I randomly caught an episode of The Shield, a few months ago... went to the video store, I'm now on Season 5.  Great series!

I want to see more of the Shakespearean influence and know what really happened to the club founder. (Jax's real dad)

Oh come on now, you've read the play, you know what happened to Jax's dad!  It really is a pretty wild take on Hamlet.

I simply can not wait until Clay finds out about Gemma.

+1
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Gratiot on October 01, 2009, 06:35:45 PM
Yeah but SOA gets you to rooting for SAMCRO over the cops .... I just find it odd.  Granted .. a couple of the cops are dirty but still, it makes you think.

Shrugs, I'm not really sure if SOA really gets people rooting for the gangsters over the cops.   

On a related note, I've always been somewhat disturbed from an interview that Tarantino once gave. When he mentioned that often one of his goals as a director is to have you rooting for disturbingly vile bad guys in his films.   
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 01, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
This show kicks ass.
The choice given last season, "Knife or fire", yeah, **** it, just shoot me...
It isn't gonna blow when Clay finds out about Gemma, but, when Jacks does.
Mamacags, Tig? Really? I could see Jacks or Juice, but, TIG? EWWW. Why not just lust after Bobby or Piney?

I know, it even creeps me out, but there it is.  I think he's hot.  I am ashamed deep down inside about it too.  Jax is too girly, Juice is ok, Bobby I do kinda like, Piney, well I would just kill him I am pretty sure.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 12, 2009, 01:42:13 AM
OK, after this week's episode:

Who wouldn't like to see something extra nasty happen to Zobel's daughter, the one who lured Gemma to the mini-van?

'Fess-up you sadistic bastards.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 12, 2009, 08:35:18 AM
OK, after this week's episode:

Who wouldn't like to see something extra nasty happen to Zobel's daughter, the one who lured Gemma to the mini-van?

'Fess-up you sadistic bastards.

I think Gemma will catch up with her eventually.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 12, 2009, 08:44:06 AM
I think Gemma will catch up with her eventually.
Yeah, but  simple shooting seems like ti would be over too soon. I'm not saying I'm for having what happened to Gemma happen to her but having her linger would drive Zobel insane.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 12, 2009, 08:53:38 AM
Yeah, but  simple shooting seems like ti would be over too soon. I'm not saying I'm for having what happened to Gemma happen to her but having her linger would drive Zobel insane.

I don't think she'll kill her. Like you say, over too soon. But something that she won't get over quickly, if ever.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 13, 2009, 05:50:06 AM
I just watched the new (last week's) episode last night.  WOW!  The eye thing. :bawl:  Chibs :censored:  Hale! :cheersmate:  It gets better every time I watch it!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 13, 2009, 01:20:21 PM
I just watched the new (last week's) episode last night.  WOW!  The eye thing. :bawl:  Chibs :censored:  Hale! :cheersmate:  It gets better every time I watch it!
Yeah, that's pretty messed-up about Chibs and Otto...and a lack of recon in favor of immediate retaliation in what is quickly becoming a full-scale war is foolhardy...I would have expected better from the veteran Clay.

I also think Clay's strong-arming Zobel was more provocation than profiteering; perhaps to establish a pecking order as rackeetering is unheard of for SAMCRO.

As for Hale: I'm wondering if this is merely an alliance of convenience or if Hale will come to a point of assuming the-devil-you-know-is-better-than-the-devil-you-don't. It could work with Hale and Jax teaming-up to reform SAMCRO away from outlawry but A) that would be too obvious B) Hamlet ends tragically for all parties involved.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 13, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
Yeah, that's pretty messed-up about Chibs and Otto...and a lack of recon in favor of immediate retaliation in what is quickly becoming a full-scale war is foolhardy...I would have expected better from the veteran Clay.

I also think Clay's strong-arming Zobel was more provocation than profiteering; perhaps to establish a pecking order as rackeetering is unheard of for SAMCRO.

As for Hale: I'm wondering if this is merely an alliance of convenience or if Hale will come to a point of assuming the-devil-you-know-is-better-than-the-devil-you-don't. It could work with Hale and Jax teaming-up to reform SAMCRO away from outlawry but A) that would be too obvious B) Hamlet ends tragically for all parties involved.

My hubby and I were discussing ways for SAMCRO to make money legally/ethically.  We can't come up with anything except the garage and maybe custom cycles/accessories.  I think Hale will go with the MC for that exact reason.  He always made so much of a fuss about other people being in the club's pockets and now he will realize exactly why they were there.  Was Otto already blind in the one eye or was just just all kinds of wonky?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 13, 2009, 03:52:08 PM
My hubby and I were discussing ways for SAMCRO to make money legally/ethically.  We can't come up with anything except the garage and maybe custom cycles/accessories.  I think Hale will go with the MC for that exact reason.  He always made so much of a fuss about other people being in the club's pockets and now he will realize exactly why they were there.  Was Otto already blind in the one eye or was just just all kinds of wonky?
They'll never be 100% straight-earners. Hardly a scene goes by without seeing Jax with a joint in his hand but there's a big difference between running guns to gangs in the middle of wars and say...running a little pot and a backroom poker game.

Even Jax had to admit the wisdom of keeping the developers out of Charming.

I dunno if Otto's scared-up eye was still good. It definitely looked like they were going after his "good" eye though and they described him as "nearly blind".

I guess we'll find out tonight.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 13, 2009, 04:03:40 PM
I can't wait!!!!!  I almost wish I would have waited to watch the entire season on DVD so I wouldn't have to wait!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on October 13, 2009, 10:28:07 PM
Gemma teaches the doc that shooting is fun! Radioactive pee! Unser had the best line of the night.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 14, 2009, 06:00:13 AM
Gemma teaches the doc that shooting is fun! Radioactive pee! Unser had the best line of the night.

Wonder how this plot will resolve?  SAMCRO the Prison Years?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 14, 2009, 08:30:35 AM
Wonder how this plot will resolve?  SAMCRO the Prison Years?

Nah, it would be boring to keep them in jail for long.  I'm guessing they'll be in for one episode and get sprung by Hale somehow.

I had a bad, bad feeling at the end of the episode...I thought they were walking into a firefight.  I was right about the bad feeling, though.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 14, 2009, 11:18:43 AM
Juice, normally an idiot, really came into his own last night...by capitalizing on his idiotness...which is brilliance. Too bad the preview showed him being carried away.

The Opie resisting Jax is predictable but one wonders why Piney hasn't said anything.

Hale's gambit with Zobel's daughter (I can never remember that scrunt's name) was also quite inspired.

Gemma and Tara shooting the car was awesome but Tara mock pointing the gun at the porn queen was better. Then when Jax asks her what happened and she feigns ignorance he says, "I love you" and her response, "You should" was the best. She was sympathetic for her earlier innocence but as an empowered, intelligent women she's down right sexy (Gemma too).

I'm curious how they will resolve the arrest sub-plot. Automatic weapons--especially in California--ain't nothing to dismiss lightly.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 14, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Juice, normally an idiot, really came into his own last night...by capitalizing on his idiotness...which is brilliance. Too bad the preview showed him being carried away.

The Opie resisting Jax is predictable but one wonders why Piney hasn't said anything.

Hale's gambit with Zobel's daughter (I can never remember that scrunt's name) was also quite inspired.

Gemma and Tara shooting the car was awesome but Tara mock pointing the gun at the porn queen was better. Then when Jax asks her what happened and she feigns ignorance he says, "I love you" and her response, "You should" was the best. She was sympathetic for her earlier innocence but as an empowered, intelligent women she's down right sexy (Gemma too).

I'm curious how they will resolve the arrest sub-plot. Automatic weapons--especially in California--ain't nothing to dismiss lightly.

Polly is the skanky nasty POS daughter's name.  I hope Gemma gets her in a dark alley and beats her to death with a high heel shoe.

Tara is Gemma Jr. now.  I kept hoping she would be killed off on season one for being such a whiny bitch but I am glad they didn't.

I think with the Scottish/Irish mob hopping in bed with Zobelle that Samcro could just lay everything at the feet of the nazis.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 14, 2009, 12:06:18 PM
I think with the Scottish/Irish mob hopping in bed with Zobelle that Samcro could just lay everything at the feet of the nazis.

We don't know yet for sure if they are joining up with Zobelle.  They may have just been gathering intel and covering their bases.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 14, 2009, 12:34:13 PM
We don't know yet for sure if they are joining up with Zobelle.  They may have just been gathering intel and covering their bases.
I noticed the Irishman was still limping.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 28, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
Seems the past two weeks have just been setting things up for the rest of the season.

Nice fight between Jax & Clay last week.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tantal on October 28, 2009, 12:09:17 PM
I want to know what the big deal is about Chibs' wife. If Gemma's afraid of her, she must be one tough bitch.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 28, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
I want to know what the big deal is about Chibs' wife. If Gemma's afraid of her, she must be one tough bitch.

Was wondering the same.  Guess we'll just have to wait to see.

I always kinda wondered why an Irish dude (Chibs) ended up in a northern California biker gang.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 28, 2009, 12:45:53 PM
I can't believe that whole Luanne thing!  I see a bunch of people about to die on there.  Only 5 more episodes for this season.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 28, 2009, 04:50:19 PM
Was wondering the same.  Guess we'll just have to wait to see.

I always kinda wondered why an Irish dude (Chibs) ended up in a northern California biker gang.
Ditto.

The Luann thing seems to really leave the club surrounded from all sides. They may be able to make a deal with the chinks but that's just waiting to explode when the guy Opie beat-up last week for the cocaine.

Half-sack really seems to be coming into his own as a strong player. First he defused the whole situation between Piney and the Niners then this week he's jumping out to protect Clay and lay covering fire (a tribute to his being a war vet?).
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 28, 2009, 05:15:30 PM
I can't believe that whole Luanne thing!  I see a bunch of people about to die on there.  Only 5 more episodes for this season.

Only 5?  Seems like this season has flown by.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on October 28, 2009, 05:19:50 PM
Yeah, last night was episode #8 of 13.  I hate these short seasons, but at least they are worth it.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 28, 2009, 05:23:49 PM
Yeah, last night was episode #8 of 13.  I hate these short seasons, but at least they are worth it.
So how much longer can they drag out this whole Hamlet thing?

If they try to play it out for a 3rd season it will be overworked but does that mean the series ends as tragically as its inspiration or will there be a reconciliation or will Clay or Jax being headed for the big clubhouse in the sky?

I don't see a reconciliation because it looks like the Donna incident is about to become public knowledge.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 28, 2009, 05:26:08 PM
Yeah, last night was episode #8 of 13.  I hate these short seasons, but at least they are worth it.

I think the season finale last year ran for an hour and a half, hopefully we get that much this year.  FX grants them some liberties with time, kind of like they did with The Shield.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 28, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
I think the season finale last year ran for an hour and a half, hopefully we get that much this year.  FX grants them some liberties with time, kind of like they did with The Shield.

The "liberties" were great and it's clear the network wants the artist to be as free as possible. However if, like The Shield, the money is still really tight then the schedule and even number of seasons are going to be a wonky unknown for all. Also, if Sutter works like Shaun Ryan, the vision may be there as a whole (some parts clear, some blurry) but the method to the madness seems to be that anything is possible week to week. The writers could be really under the gun from time to time in terms of story line. (Despite Sutters involvement I think you can take that figuratively)

Oh, as to the Son's vs the cops... how bout that dirty cop getting himself shot over a chain of events he could not fathom? Dude. Great drama but so not down with that and I'm just glad it looks like he will live. This mustmust come back and bite the club in the arse and big.

Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 28, 2009, 05:57:36 PM
The "liberties" were great and it's clear the network wants the artist to be as free as possible. However if, like The Shield, the money is still really tight then the schedule and even number of seasons are going to be a wonky unknown for all. Also, if Sutter works like Shaun Ryan, the vision may be there as a whole (some parts clear, some blurry) but the method to the madness seems to be that anything is possible week to week. The writers could be really under the gun from time to time in terms of story line. (Despite Sutters involvement I think you can take that figuratively)

I'd recommend reading Kurt Sutter's blog, I think I posted a link somewhere earlier in this thread.  From what I recall, he's always been very complimentary to FX and the freedom that they grant.  He also explains (without spoilers) that he's very cognizant of the direction he wants the show to take in each season. 

It is definitely worth a read.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 28, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
I'd recommend reading his Kurt Sutter's blog, I think I posted a link somewhere earlier in this thread.  From what I recall, he's always been very complimentary to FX and the freedom that they grant.  He also explains (without spoilers) that he's very cognizant of the direction he wants the show to take in each season.  

It is definitely worth a read.

Thanks for the recommendation, I actually checked it out a little from your earlier link and will do so again. Sutter would know a lot better than I and it's possible F/X is in a lot better shape these days, thanks in part to The Shield but also many other edgy programs. (most I have not seen but am aware of and know to be running multiple seasons)

I was thinking about The Shield commentaries and stories about how season 4 or 5 would be the last, getting mid season extentions and other issues like A-list guest actors and their contracts. I recall Forest Whitaker's character coming to a very abrupt, though satisfying end due contract conflicts. (possibly exacerbated by the writers strike if I recall correctly)

Anyway, I added Sutters blog to my favs. :cheersmate:

On edit:
In case anyone missed it... http://sutterink.blogspot.com/

Who would have thought a professional writer would have a good blog?  :p
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 03, 2009, 08:36:35 PM
Just read this info on the IMDB message board about Chibs...don't know the validity of it, but anyway....

Quote
Chibs Telford is Scottish (Glasgow), lived in Ireland (Belfast). He was a medic in the British Army for five months until court marshaled (for what we don't know). Knickname comes from the scottish word for scar (Chib) - because of his "glasglow grin" (which are real - the actor was mugged and nearly killed). He is the club's original contact to the IRA. He has an estranged wife and child. His estranged wife is now involved with IRA bigwig and soon to be stateside Jimmy O.

Chibs is loyal to Jax, and was the sponsor for Half-Sack to become Prospect.

I think some of this info may have come from the DVD extras, don't really know.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 03, 2009, 11:14:12 PM
Who was the girl outside the church that Gemma spoke to?  I have seen her before, but I wasn't sure if it was on the show.  It is probably something really deep and symbolic.  Those things usually go right over my head on TV shows.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0122466/  Found her.  I loved the show The Torkelsons!!!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on November 03, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
Is it me, or is Katey Sagal hotter now, than she was twenty years ago?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 04, 2009, 07:09:12 AM
Is it me, or is Katey Sagal hotter now, than she was twenty years ago?

She has a big pot of sexy boiling.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 04, 2009, 10:28:36 AM
Is it me, or is Katey Sagal hotter now, than she was twenty years ago?

It's probably because she's not wearing the damn wig that she sported on "Married With Children".
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 04, 2009, 11:25:33 AM
Nahh I think some women just get a lot better looking with age.  Same with some guys.  While others fall apart they just come into their glory later in life.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 01:57:46 PM
Why are we gaying up my thread?

 :tongue:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 04, 2009, 02:08:08 PM
Why are we gaying up my thread?

 :tongue:

At least we're talking about hot wimmens.

I'm kind of surprised that none of the CC wimmens made a comment about Jax's nude scene last night.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 04, 2009, 02:11:33 PM
Speaking of gay... Did you guys see Jax naked!??!?!?!  Holy hot smoking ass on fire!!!!!!1  His body couldn't get more perfect if you framed it and hung it in the Louvre!


I am glad Opie finally pulled his head out of his ass.  I missed a couple of seconds when they nazis were getting ready to warm up a building and I am not sure if they actually offed someone.  I am going to have to rewatch it on On Demand to see.  I knew that judge was going to be a hardass because he plays a hardass in every thing he plays.  I didn't think he would be THAT much of a hardass though.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 04, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
I am glad Opie finally pulled his head out of his ass.  I missed a couple of seconds when they nazis were getting ready to warm up a building and I am not sure if they actually offed someone.  I am going to have to rewatch it on On Demand to see.  I knew that judge was going to be a hardass because he plays a hardass in every thing he plays.  I didn't think he would be THAT much of a hardass though.

Darby & Weston and some other of the Hitler brigade torched the Caracara porn studios.  The accountant dude who had his fingers chopped off was asleep in the office, and we don't know if he got out alive or not.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 04, 2009, 03:16:50 PM
Speaking of gay... Did you guys see Jax naked!??!?!?!  Holy hot smoking ass on fire!!!!!!1  His body couldn't get more perfect if you framed it and hung it in the Louvre!

So Jax gives you teh ghey, huh?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 04, 2009, 04:04:03 PM
So Jax gives you teh ghey, huh?
No but I bet you got a little tingly in your winkie.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 11, 2009, 10:05:41 AM
Well, I'd have to say last night's hour & a half extravaganza was excellent viewing.  Perhaps a somewhat expected ending, but still pretty damn good stuff.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tantal on November 11, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
If they took a blowtorch to a guy over a tattoo, I can only imagine what Jax and Clay are going to do to Henry Rollins and his crew. It should get ugly.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 13, 2009, 11:23:29 AM
I was honestly shocked that Gemma told.  I don't know why.  I knew that somehow Jax couldn't go Nomad but I didn't figure on that.  I thought Clay would get gunned down and Jax would have to come back to run the MC.  I have a huge beef though. Could Jimmy O's accent be any more fake!?!?  Holy crap on a stick! :thatsright:  Are there really no Irish actors out there who could have played that part?  Titus Welliver is a great actor (loved him in Deadwood) but he is from freaking Connecticut!

How funny was the mushroom stuff with Tig and Half-sack?  I was freaking rolling!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 13, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
Piney has me worried.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 13, 2009, 06:08:49 PM
Piney has me worried.

Why?  Just because he's been out in the woods drinking for weeks?  I know he's a respected elder and all, but I don't know if he has much influence on anyone other than on Jax.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 13, 2009, 06:50:58 PM
Why?  Just because he's been out in the woods drinking for weeks?  I know he's a respected elder and all, but I don't know if he has much influence on anyone other than on Jax.

Maybe something about him downing shots of whiskey while staring at his gun?  I think he is going to off himself.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: rich_t on November 13, 2009, 07:01:47 PM
Maybe something about him downing shots of whiskey while staring at his gun?  I think he is going to off himself.

He appears to be thinking about it.  I suspect he knows that Clay had Donna killed.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 15, 2009, 03:45:33 PM
He appears to be thinking about it.  I suspect he knows that Clay had Donna killed.
He definitely knows. He also knows the club if turning to shit and Jax's father had seen it coming. Now he sees it too.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 19, 2009, 06:59:11 AM
Well guys, I guess you were all wrong thinking that I was the only one in the world who would find Tig hot as hell! :hyper:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 19, 2009, 11:45:43 AM
Piney ended up impressing the hell out of me.

Ditto with Opie. Nice to see agent Stahl took down a few pegs. I'm wondering if this turns into her redemption because that will have big doings with how she treats Chibs' family.

I'm wondering if Tig's confession had anything to do with last week's 'shroom trip where he ended up sobbing and crying that he was sorry.

Clay is looking pretty damned marginalized these days.

EDIT: I also noticed Tara and Opie's pr0n chick sitting together and conversating cordially. Let's hope Tara can pick-up a few tricks.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 19, 2009, 04:24:35 PM
I loved seeing Stahl break!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 20, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
Is it just me or does it seem with Unser's church, the padre, the housekeeper, Gemma helping Chibs and reading her Bible etc that the show is somewhat sympathetic to notions of religion even of the Christian flavorings?

Most shows/movies depict christians as buffoonish hypocrites and/or crooks. For a show that immerses itself in lawlessness, hedonism and brutality the juxtaposition seems far more appealing than shows that simply strive for shock value or mock religion or pander to dime-store moralisms.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 20, 2009, 12:18:36 PM
Is it just me or does it seem with Unser's church, the padre, the housekeeper, Gemma helping Chibs and reading her Bible etc that the show is somewhat sympathetic to notions of religion even of the Christian flavorings?

Most shows/movies depict christians as buffoonish hypocrites and/or crooks. For a show that immerses itself in lawlessness, hedonism and brutality the juxtaposition seems far more appealing than shows that simply strive for shock value or mock religion or pander to dime-store moralisms.

I noticed that too.  Not a single religious person on the show has been a child molestor or brainwashing freak!  You don't get that treatment on so many shows.  I know there is a ton of symbolism too. 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 21, 2009, 07:40:43 PM
Avoided this thread since Tuesday night, but finally caught up & got to watch it last night.  Excellent episode, befitting my avatar.

Good call on Mr. Snuggle Bunny's part about Piney...didn't expect he'd try and take out Clay, though.

Tig trying to nail Gemma!  That threw me for a loop...thank goodness he stopped, that was a weird scene.

Should be an entertaining final two episodes.  Wondering how he's gonna close the season.  I'm gonna assume that we get an hour & a half finale.  I'd better check my DVR and see.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 21, 2009, 07:50:14 PM
I noticed that too.  Not a single religious person on the show has been a child molestor or brainwashing freak!  You don't get that treatment on so many shows.  I know there is a ton of symbolism too. 

I'm not particularly religious, but I do pay attention to anti-religion themes in the few shows/movies that I watch.

What is surprising is that the creator (Kurt Sutter, see blog link way upthread) is a flaming liberal.  He's an entertaining guy, at least from what I can tell from the blog.  I was kinda worried when I read before the season started that there would be a white-supremacist/religious aspect.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 24, 2009, 09:27:22 AM
Loose threads - What ever happened to:

Darby
Chuck
Wendy
Officer Tommel (sp?)

I judge a series by its minor characters as much as its major plot lines. Did I miss something, is there bonus content some where or did these people just disappear?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Alpha Mare on November 24, 2009, 10:25:03 AM
Loose threads - What ever happened to:

Darby
Chuck
Wendy
Officer Tommel (sp?)

I judge a series by its minor characters as much as its major plot lines. Did I miss something, is there bonus content some where or did these people just disappear?

Darby and Chuck were in the fire at the porn studio; Trammel was shot pulling over someone to frame her for drugs (helping SoA); Wendy was last seen at Donna's funeral, watching Jax kiss Tara.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 24, 2009, 01:26:48 PM
Loose threads - What ever happened to:

Darby
Chuck
Wendy
Officer Tommel (sp?)

I judge a series by its minor characters as much as its major plot lines. Did I miss something, is there bonus content some where or did these people just disappear?

Wendy (Drea DeMatteo from the Sopranos) was pretty much written out of the show, because she wanted too much money.  It might have been interesting to see her battle with Tara, but I guess we'll never find out.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 24, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
Darby and Chuck were in the fire at the porn studio; Trammel was shot pulling over someone to frame her for drugs (helping SoA); Wendy was last seen at Donna's funeral, watching Jax kiss Tara.
I know but when the studio burnt down there was no discussion of bodies found. For all we know one or both of them escaped.

Trammel was shot and that's the last we heard of him.

And apparently there is no graceful way to write bitches out of the script (thanx for the 411, RW).
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 24, 2009, 10:20:49 PM
Did you guys see Lem??!?!?!?  I LOVE LEM!!!!!  I hope he turns into a central character next season!  Zobelle is such a freaking nasty piece of crap!  I now love Tara!  She is totally turning into Gemma Jr. 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Alpha Mare on November 24, 2009, 11:50:35 PM
Did you guys see Lem??!?!?!?  I LOVE LEM!!!!!  I hope he turns into a central character next season!  Zobelle is such a freaking nasty piece of crap!  I now love Tara!  She is totally turning into Gemma Jr. 

Tara appears to be pregnant,IRL.  Now we know Chuck survived I'm guessing Darby did too. 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 25, 2009, 11:21:30 AM
Did you guys see Lem??!?!?!?  I LOVE LEM!!!!!  I hope he turns into a central character next season!  Zobelle is such a freaking nasty piece of crap!  I now love Tara!  She is totally turning into Gemma Jr. 

I thought I saw him in the background at the beginning when they were doing a crowd shot of the clubhouse, then he actually had a line.  Too funny.

Things went WAY too smoothly in that episode.  I'm wondering what twists & turns await us in the season finale.  90 minutes next Tuesday!
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tantal on November 25, 2009, 02:55:48 PM
Is Kyle Hobart, the dude that got the tattoo burned off of his back, back in the club? I thought that was him wearing a 'cut' and that Tig was displeased about his presence.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 25, 2009, 03:15:10 PM
Is Kyle Hobart, the dude that got the tattoo burned off of his back, back in the club? I thought that was him wearing a 'cut' and that Tig was displeased about his presence.

I didn't notice.  Still on my DVR, but I don't exactly remember what the guy looked like.  That was an episode from last season where they burned off his tattoo, right?
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tantal on November 25, 2009, 03:28:17 PM
I didn't notice.  Still on my DVR, but I don't exactly remember what the guy looked like.  That was an episode from last season where they burned off his tattoo, right?
Yeah, it's been awhile since I've seen that episode too, so I couldn't tell. Normally I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but Tig was pissed about it. He also showed up to the brawl with Rollins' crew, so maybe they kissed and made up and he's back in. If it were me, I'd feed every one of them sumbitches through a wood chipper if they took a blowtorch to me, but we're talking about biker trash here, so you never know.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 25, 2009, 03:39:40 PM
No, guys that was Lem from The Shield!  How could you not know that?  I am just so disappointed with you.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0425543/  I know he isn't listed on there as being on Sons but my libido hit a high note the second I saw him and that only happens for a few men in this world.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tantal on November 25, 2009, 03:49:24 PM
No, guys that was Lem from The Shield!  How could you not know that?  I am just so disappointed with you.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0425543/  I know he isn't listed on there as being on Sons but my libido hit a high note the second I saw him and that only happens for a few men in this world.
I'm not so sure about that mama. I lack the time to copy, download, and post the picks, but Lem was Kenny Johnson and Kyle was Brian Van Holt. They look awfully similar, so in the dull lighting of the clubhouse, it could be either one.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on November 25, 2009, 08:24:47 PM
It was Lem.  Brian Van Holt was Butchie Yost in John From Cincinatti.  I loved that show too even though it didn't make a lick of sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Johnson_(actor) He also appears during the latest season of Sons of Anarchy.

I can't believe you doubted my tingly libido for even a second!!! :bawl:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: JakeStyle on December 01, 2009, 10:39:16 PM
Just wow!  Don't want to post any spoilers but that was a damn good episode with some pretty good threads hanging for next season.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tantal on December 01, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
Just wow!  Don't want to post any spoilers but that was a damn good episode with some pretty good threads hanging for next season.
Yes it was. Gemma? Abel? Zobelle? To a minor extent Alvarez and the Mayans? The Aryans in the joint? They've already got about 5 plot lines to work for next season. Weston was hard-core to the end.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 02, 2009, 08:44:31 AM
Man...

...if I were Sutter I would have at least given Half-Sack his top rocker before killing him.

Polly died too fast.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on December 02, 2009, 12:34:07 PM
WOW!  I kept hoping Stahl would take one in the head.  That whole Abel thing is so messed up I don't even know where to start.  I had mucho respect for Weston for taking it like a man.  His kids are going to be total head cases though. :mental:  I hate cliff hangers so much!  What if I die before next season?  I will never know what happens!  Speaking of which, I can't find anything about when next season will happen! :bawl:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on December 02, 2009, 12:40:19 PM
WOW!  I kept hoping Stahl would take one in the head.  That whole Abel thing is so messed up I don't even know where to start.  I had mucho respect for Weston for taking it like a man.  His kids are going to be total head cases though. :mental:  I hate cliff hangers so much!  What if I die before next season?  I will never know what happens!  Speaking of which, I can't find anything about when next season will happen! :bawl:

I'm not a fan of cliffhangers either.  I would imagine Season 3 will start next fall....so nine months of waiting.

Did anyone catch the preview of the new FX show with Shane from The Shield?  It looks weird.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 02, 2009, 09:56:42 PM
September 2010!

 :censored:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on December 03, 2009, 07:06:32 AM
I'm not a fan of cliffhangers either.  I would imagine Season 3 will start next fall....so nine months of waiting.

Did anyone catch the preview of the new FX show with Shane from The Shield?  It looks weird.

Justify or Justified.  I can't wait to see that one!  It looks freaking awesome! 
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: kudron on December 03, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
I can't help but think that one of the Sons would look for a boat to steal to give chase for Abel.

Unser and Gemma fleeing together will be interesting. I hope Unser isn't killed off from the cancer. His character is so full of internal conflict (conscience wise).

I don't think that we have heard the last from Zobel. Yes, his daughter died too quickly.

I really am sad to see Half-Sack killed off. He was one of those characters that just hung around (no pun intended) and stole the scene. When he walked in on Gemma and Clay was hilarious.

Anyone here think that Staal is WAY HOT, even though she is an unscrupulous bitch? (my nipples are getting hard...)  :naughty:

If I have a stroke or heart attack before season three starts I am telling my doctors to put me on life support so I can see it.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on December 03, 2009, 11:56:12 PM
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I can't help but think that one of the Sons would look for a boat to steal to give chase for Abel.
I couldn't help thinking WaveRunners would have been completely appropriate.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: JakeStyle on December 04, 2009, 12:43:36 AM
I watched it again tonight and can't understand how Ed didn't notice his pistol was loaded with blanks.  He checked the magazine prior to wimping out on shooting Stahl and this is a guy that spends a lot of time with firearms, unless we are to believe the chambered round was blank and the rest were live but that doesn't make sense either.  I'm glad he got a falcon punch in on her but I would really like to see her character die a painful death.

Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 13, 2010, 11:20:47 AM
OK, who else caught the season 3 premiere last week?

Damn, it started up again with a bang.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: true_blood on September 13, 2010, 07:59:50 PM
Great show!The ending was awesome. :cheersmate:
FX has some killer shows.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 13, 2010, 08:30:18 PM
I love this show. I can't believe _____ _____ _______ don't want to spoil it, but, that was the big surprise for me
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on September 14, 2010, 05:29:11 AM
Yeah that close up of _______'s __________ hanging out the back of his ______ was shocking!  I loved the way Jax responded.  Who do you think did it?  The guy was either white or latino.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2010, 07:47:19 AM
I can't believe the _____ _____ ____ _____ Jax _____ _____ _______ -_____ ____ ___ _______
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on September 14, 2010, 12:23:38 PM
But ___________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _______________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ ________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____
_________ _______ _______ ________ _________ ________________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____ _____ _______ _______ and ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____ ______ _________ _________ _____________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____________ ____________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ ____________ __________ _____ !
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2010, 12:34:24 PM
You forgot to use the invisible text.

(I don't watch this show)
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: true_blood on September 14, 2010, 01:18:56 PM
But ___________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _______________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ ________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____
_________ _______ _______ ________ _________ ________________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____ _____ _______ _______ and ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____ ______ _________ _________ _____________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ _____________ ____________ _______ _______ ________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____________ __________ __________ ____________ __________ _____ !
lol :lmao: :rotf:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2010, 09:35:49 PM
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Damn hybrids, dangerous
:rotf:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2010, 09:59:14 PM
Humanitarian :rotf:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on September 15, 2010, 01:43:12 PM
You forgot to use the invisible text.

(I don't watch this show)

ur gay then
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: mamacags on September 15, 2010, 01:43:50 PM
well that didn't exactly work the way I had planned. :thatsright:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Tucker on September 15, 2010, 02:35:37 PM
Love it.  I have hung around with folks like this.  Kind of comes with the territory sometimes.  From what I know of 1%'ers from those I have been around ... this show is pretty close to being on target.

KC

You and me both. When I quit drinking 15 years ago, I drifted away. I still have my scoots though. Now I mostly ride with veterans. Even though I belong to the American Legion I haven't joined the American Legion riders W/ colors.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Texacon on September 15, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
You and me both. When I quit drinking 15 years ago, I drifted away. I still have my scoots though. Now I mostly ride with veterans. Even though I belong to the American Legion I haven't joined the American Legion riders W/ colors.

I've worn 2 different sets of colors and I won't ride a patch anymore.  I ride to get away from rules.  Both times I had someone's colors on the rules kept getting in the way of my riding. 

KC
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: true_blood on September 28, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
SOA tonight! Who's watching? :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 28, 2010, 08:13:52 PM
I've worn 2 different sets of colors and I won't ride a patch anymore.  I ride to get away from rules.  Both times I had someone's colors on the rules kept getting in the way of my riding. 

KC
ABBY (NCIS) I used to be an anarchist
Dinozo Not any more?
ABBY Too many rules
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Revolution on September 28, 2010, 08:16:09 PM
Not to buttin, but I'm watching this season. Whic is it? 4th?

I've kind of missed all the rest. Including the most important...the first. :(
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Chris_ on September 28, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
Not to buttin, but I'm watching this season. Whic is it? 4th?

I've kind of missed all the rest. Including the most important...the first. :(
This is the third season.
Title: Re: Sons of Anarchy
Post by: Revolution on September 29, 2010, 01:44:57 AM
Damn, I've missed a lot.

I thought Gemma was going to turn herself in to the law tonight though.