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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: zeitgeist on September 30, 2009, 12:55:02 PM
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How many dummies does it take to re-fight the Civil War? :popcorn:
Check out yet another thread when The Dump will rise again.
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ALL SOUTHERNERS: LBJ, MLK, John Lewis, Rosa Parks, Andrew Young, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton&Al Gore
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 03:40 PM
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ALL SOUTHERNERS: LBJ, MLK, John Lewis, Rosa Parks, Andrew Young, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton&Al Gore
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 03:55 PM by ddeclue
For those who are geographic bigots towards the South let me point out the following to you:
1) People MOVE. The people who live in the South today are NOT same exact set of people who live here today that lived in the South 50, 100, or even 150 years ago. That simply isn't so. There has been a huge migration of Northerners to the South and of Southerner to the North and of people moving around in general. Your post is ignorant for this reason alone.
In Orange County Florida for instance, more than half of the currently registered voters today were NOT registered to vote here as recently as the 2000 Gore Bush election. Try to find a "native" Atlantan.
{Snip}
De-clueless-one sets the wood aglow with this initial post
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 03:46 PM
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1. True - there have most definitely been a number of wonderful southerners....
Now if only we could get that to be the *average*.
but it ain't all sweet tea an magnolias for long
Oregone (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 03:53 PM
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10. Per capita, it would seem the region produces more horses' asses
mamaleah (679 posts) Tue Sep-29-09 03:54 PM
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14. I am not from the South, but thank you!
I have some family deep in Georgia and it is truly beautiful there. I'd move in a heartbeat to there.
Thank you also for this: I'd say they did some pretty good things despite being "handicapped by religion".
I do not know what is stronger around here.....hate for the south or hate for religion.
ok that may be a fair observation
Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 04:09 PM
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17. A few points...
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 04:11 PM by Chulanowa
The people who live in the South today are NOT same exact set of people who live here today that lived in the South 50, 100, or even 150 years ago.
It was a mere decade ago that I was in school in the south. While you're right, it's not the same people, fact is the same history is taught. I dunno about other states, but Alabama still teaches its students that Antebellum days were fair and something to be cherished, that the Civil War was "Tha Wo-ah uv Nuthurn Uh-greshun," that Reconstruction failed due to blacks being incompetent, and that the Ku Klux Klan was mainly interested in going after white "carpetbaggers" and "scalawags" - terms that I am certain are still in use in the curriculum. The result is the same - a sense of southern exceptionalism, northern "unfairness" and a longing for the golden age when black people were only allowed to say "Yassuh massa suh!"
Now not all southerners buy into this, of course, this is still the product that's being sold, and enough people do buy it, or parts of it to be a problem. Enough that "The Southern Strategy" is remaining viable and productive for Republicans, in spite of all the decent people living there. And the thing is... It's current residents of the south who keep sending these racist, ignorant Southerners to Washington, electing bigoted, stupid politicians to head their own states, and filling up local committees and schoolboards with pearl-clutching, vapor-catching fundamentalists.
of course not all southerners are bad - I'm one (living in Washington now, though) and all my relatives are as well. However it's pretty damn obvious that all the "good" people are busy picking their toenails or something, because there's something rotten in the state of Dixie.
Now not everyone is happy about this turn of events.
jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 04:16 PM
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22. Textbooks in AL call the Civil War "The War of Northern Agression" ........ Are you sure?
Are you sure about that?
I can't imagine that.
Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 04:21 PM
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27. "As it is called by some..." to be specific
It's been ten damn years and I mostly spent the time drawing up Magic decks.
Also? George Wallace blocked the school doors because he was a firm believer in keeping the federal government out of the state! True story! *cough cough*
There is some real hilarious stuff in here.
Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 04:44 PM
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37. You make some points
However, looking at current statistics regarding educational attainment, the South performs very badly. Maybe as even more Northerners move South, things will get better.
Perhaps these regional differences will disappear.........and what many of us hope is that the country will look more like Vermont than Alabama........
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However, looking at current statistics regarding educational attainment, the South performs very badly. Maybe as even more Northerners move South, things will get better.
Perhaps these regional differences will disappear.........and what many of us hope is that the country will look more like Vermont than Alabama........
:puke:
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Please, God, no! Not another Civil War thread.
Let us pray this piece of shit thread sinks quickly.
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Please, God, no! Not another Civil War thread.
Let us pray this piece of shit thread sinks quickly.
Pray that everyone sits back and watches the DUmmies go nuts without feeling obliged to comment on their own take on the history.
:evillaugh:
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Look primitives, the war's been over for 144 years. Do you really believe that in 1927 (that's 144 years after the end of the American Revolutionary War) that people sat around saying "You know, the area of the country where those former colonists who were in favor of the British crown winning the war are NOT same exact set of people who live here today?"
Grow. Up.
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Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-29-09 04:44 PM
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37. You make some points
However, looking at current statistics regarding educational attainment, the South performs very badly. Maybe as even more Northerners move South, things will get better.
Perhaps these regional differences will disappear.........and what many of us hope is that the country will look more like Vermont than Alabama........
Ah yes. The south can't wait to reform it's school systems on par with say, Detroit or Chicago or that bastion of pedaphiles known as Vermont. :banghead:
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Ah yes. The south can't wait to reform it's school systems on par with say, Detroit or Chicago or that bastion of pedaphiles known as Vermont. :banghead:
....and the DUmmie said.
However, looking at current statistics regarding educational attainment, the South performs very badly
I could tell the DUmmies why that is but they wouldn't like it or believe it.
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....and the DUmmie said.
However, looking at current statistics regarding educational attainment, the South performs very badly
I could tell the DUmmies why that is but they wouldn't like it or believe it.
As could I.
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As could anyone with two eyes and a brain.
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Ah yes. The south can't wait to reform it's school systems on par with say, Detroit or Chicago or that bastion of pedaphiles known as Vermont. :banghead:
Oh hell! The nation's capital, DC, would make the Southern States look like they turn out genius'!
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Oh hell! The nation's capital, DC, would make the Southern States look like they turn out genius'!
At least more than a simple majority of the kids in the South have a basic, passing familiarity with the Constitution before they graduate. I doubt the same could be said for DC natives.