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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mustang on September 26, 2009, 08:26:10 PM
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This is a rant, so bear with me.
I hate Geraldo Rivera. He makes EVERYTHING a racial issue. Last weekend he said Michael Steele was the illegitimate leader of the black movement and told Al Sharpton that he was. And then on O'Reilly on Friday (or Thursday?), he tried to make an argument that the right was going after Acorn because they do good work registering poor minorities and that legitimate groups like the 700 club should be investigated in the same manner as Acorn. And a few weeks ago, he said repeatedly over the span of a couple weeks said that the health care issue had a racial dimension and that whites oppose it because it would redistribute wealth to poor minorities. Why the hell does Fox have this loon on???
I don't watch him intentionally, I like to spend my weekend nights unwinding by playing video games and I leave Fox News on and he happens to pop up. Rush also said he realized Michael Jackson died by the indication that Geraldo Rivera was covering it. Geraldo is a bottom feeder that is addicted to the most tabloid stories available, whether it be Anna Nicole Smith or obsessing over Jackson like he is Jesus Christ.
Now my issue with Beck, I like Beck. And I know members like 5412 like him and rightfully so. BUT, can he stop attacking the Republican party like we don't care? I'm an intern for the Republican party and I sweat bullets trying to convince everyone that Chris Christie is the right man for governor of New Jersey. In New Jersey, the Republican party is very grass roots, Gov. Corzine is outspending us 3-1 and we still have a 7 point lead. The average New Jersey household is paying an additional 10k in additional taxes thanks to Jon Corzine, he raised everything from the sales tax to the property tax, and even tried to raise tolls on the parkway and turnpike by 800%--which is the lifeline of the state. You can't get anywhere in the state without the parkway or turnpike in a reasonable amount of time. Republican Chris Christie is a federal prosecutor who has an impecable record that destroyed billions in corruption, that wants to cut, cut, and cut taxes and fix everything Corzine screwed up. Corzine is a billionaire who cannot buy this election--he doesn't even have volunteers! --He pays people to campaign for him-he pays for his whole campaign-he gets no contributions.
And Beck, are you turning into Ron Paul? You just told the president to win Afghanistan or get out. NO, WE SHOULD FINISH THE WAR, no matter what people think! This is about national security, how dare he even suggest surrender. And stop telling people it doesn't matter if your a Republican or a Democrat, it does matter! Yeah, John McCain is a RINO, but that doesn't mean the rest of us Republicans are.
Beck, why have you never mentioned Chris Christie yet you have praised Ron Paul on your Friday show? Why do you never acknowledge George Bush protected us? Are you afraid of offending the liberal side of your audience?
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Mustang--Rivera is a RINO of the worst sort, no denying it. And for him to claim he's Republican is all the more laughable.
But Beck, sensationalist though he can be, does have a point. He (and many others) correctly see the GOP and little more than Democrat-lite. When he says win it or quit it, I'm sure he'd much rather have the former than the latter. I can't pretend to speak for him, but my guess is he's far more concerned with rooting out evil than sticking his head in the sand ala RuPaul and pretending that if we stay in our borders, all will be ponies and rainbows.
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Mustang--Rivera is a RINO of the worst sort, no denying it. And for him to claim he's Republican is all the more laughable.
But Beck, sensationalist though he can be, does have a point. He (and many others) correctly see the GOP and little more than Democrat-lite. When he says win it or quit it, I'm sure he'd much rather have the former than the latter. I can't pretend to speak for him, but my guess is he's far more concerned with rooting out evil than sticking his head in the sand ala RuPaul and pretending that if we stay in our borders, all will be ponies and rainbows.
That's my point, he labels all Republicans like we are all RINOS. Chris Christie is one of the most amazing candidates I have ever seen, and he is not a RINO by any measure. He is conservative to the core on every issue. He is a friend of George Bush too.
Beck praised Ron Paul on Friday's show, yet has never even mentioned Christ Christie as an amazing grass roots candidate with an amazing record as a Federal prosecutor. Isn't that Beck's whole shpeel? Getting rid of waste and corruption? Why has he never mentioned Christie?
Oh, because he is afraid to compliment a true Republican conservative.
And Geraldo Rivera is a scum-sucker lawyer who loves to Race-bate. He isn't the RINO of the worst kind, because he posts his liberal views everywhere--everyone knows he is far left. The worst RINO's or CINO's (conservatives) are the politicians/ public figures that people do not realize they are RINOS.
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I doubt that. And you also have to remember, Beck has some pretty strong libertarian leanings as well, so he's gonna be a bit of a Paulbot.
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I doubt that. And you also have to remember, Beck has some pretty strong libertarian leanings as well, so he's gonna be a bit of a Paulbot.
Don't get me wrong, I like him. But compared to Rush Limbaugh--he is a paper tiger.
He has what? an audience of 8 million with his radio+show on fox? 9 million tops?
Rush has 20+ million, and he just has radio. And for a reason. If Beck would reevaluate his positions and search the truth and listen to Rush, he would understand why Rush has such an overwhelming audience. Rush has talent on loan from God.
Oh, and Beck needs to distance himself more from O'Reilly. That might help him.
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I've seen Jerry King up close and personal. He's a d*ck in real life. Treats his staff like crap. That is my observation after seeing him in action for two straight years at Hamilton.
Calling him a RINO is an insult to RINO's. He's as Lib as they come except for one thing. The WoT.
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Who is Jerry King and what is the WoT?
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WoT-War on Terror. And I've no idea who Jerry King is, unless he's related to Stephen King or Larry King.
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Mustang, you're an intern for the GOP and you don't know what WoT is?
Do you comprede WFT?
I applaud you for taking an internship with the party. It's a real eye opener isn't it, and lots of fun at the same time. I'm with you for sure on Geraldo. I could not stand him and broke out in hives back when Fox hired him. He grates on my nerves something terrible when they run him out on Fox & Friends in the morning. I usually have to turn the channel. He's such a douche and always wants to talk over everybody.
As for Beck, maybe if you contact him about your man Chris Christie and let him know what's going on in that race and ask politely for his help, he would put the story on. There's so much right now to talk about, maybe Christie just isn't on his radar screen at this time. Get him and his message out to O'Reilly and Beck both. I used to couldn't really take Beck, there at first he was a little over the top. But he has grown on me, and speaks the truth. I think he's getting it right.
As for Rush having talent on loan from God himself.....I have had a hard time being a big Rush fan. I agree 150% with just about every thing Rush says, and I'm glad he's doing the job he's doing getting awareness up and the word out, but he grates on my nerves with his bloated egoness. I listen to his show for about 15 minutes a day, that's about all I can take of him.
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Rivera is a complete creep man-whore, and a race whore on top of that in his profession, and Beck gets way too shrill and CT for my taste.
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Who is Jerry King and what is the WoT?
WoT-War on Terror. And I've no idea who Jerry King is, unless he's related to Stephen King or Larry King.
Jerry King is Geraldo's alleged name. He's an idiot and always has been. Anybody remember him drawing out the attack plans in the sand during the beginning of the war in Iraq?? He should have gone to prison for that.
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Jerry King is Geraldo's alleged name. He's an idiot and always has been. Anybody remember him drawing out the attack plans in the sand during the beginning of the war in Iraq?? He should have gone to prison for that.
Thought it was Jerry Rivers?
BTW, Beck isn't a Republican, Mustang. He does do a LOT of good to hold Republicans to their fiscal promises though. As an independent Conservative not beholden to ANY party, I applaud Beck.
As for Rivera, I would piss down his throat if his guts were on fire.
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Thought it was Jerry Rivers?
BTW, Beck isn't a Republican, Mustang. He does do a LOT of good to hold Republicans to their fiscal promises though. As an independent Conservative not beholden to ANY party, I applaud Beck.
As for Rivera, I would piss down his throat if his guts were on fire.
Now that you mention it.......
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Jerry King is Geraldo's alleged name. He's an idiot and always has been. Anybody remember him drawing out the attack plans in the sand during the beginning of the war in Iraq?? He should have gone to prison for that.
The full bird at MDW public affairs is the one that had to tell Geraldo to leave the country after that stunt.
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Now that you mention it.......
You're right. Fingers got ahead of the brain.
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Mustang, you're an intern for the GOP and you don't know what WoT is?
Do you comprede WFT?
I applaud you for taking an internship with the party. It's a real eye opener isn't it, and lots of fun at the same time. I'm with you for sure on Geraldo. I could not stand him and broke out in hives back when Fox hired him. He grates on my nerves something terrible when they run him out on Fox & Friends in the morning. I usually have to turn the channel. He's such a douche and always wants to talk over everybody.
As for Beck, maybe if you contact him about your man Chris Christie and let him know what's going on in that race and ask politely for his help, he would put the story on. There's so much right now to talk about, maybe Christie just isn't on his radar screen at this time. Get him and his message out to O'Reilly and Beck both. I used to couldn't really take Beck, there at first he was a little over the top. But he has grown on me, and speaks the truth. I think he's getting it right.
As for Rush having talent on loan from God himself.....I have had a hard time being a big Rush fan. I agree 150% with just about every thing Rush says, and I'm glad he's doing the job he's doing getting awareness up and the word out, but he grates on my nerves with his bloated egoness. I listen to his show for about 15 minutes a day, that's about all I can take of him.
I am not that fluent with online talk. I just learned last week what FTW meant.
Contact Beck about Chris Christie? He knows about him, if he doesn't then he has his head in the sand. Fox has consistently reporting how Christie has been holding 7-8 point lead against billionaire tax and spend liberal Jon Corzine for the past few months.
My point about Glenn Beck is that he will never compliment a Republican. Whoever is the next GOP president, he will go after them as aggressively as he does against Obama. Whether they deserve it or not.
If Glenn Beck doesn't check himself, he can end up being a Ron Paul type figure where no one takes him seriously anymore. The comments he has been making the past couple weeks are indicating that very notion. Like I said, he should take a few pointers from Rush.
Lets go back in memory lane...what was John McCain doing and what was Obama doing in the 2008 election?
Obama was portraying himself as a moderate while assuring his left wing base that he was very liberal.
McCain was attacking his own party, the incumbent president (of his own party), and flip flopping on the issues.
Who won?
Beck should reserve his power for when it really matters. And right now, his focus should be solely be on Obama's administration and how to defeat it in 2012. If he uses his power to equally critique both parties, no matter what happens, his power gets diminished.
It becomes "oh, he is attacking everyone on the political spectrum. What else is new?"
Rivera is a complete creep man-whore, and a race whore on top of that in his profession, and Beck gets way too shrill and CT for my taste.
What is CT?
I applaud you for taking an internship with the party. It's a real eye opener isn't it, and lots of fun at the same time. I'm with you for sure on Geraldo. I could not stand him and broke out in hives back when Fox hired him. He grates on my nerves something terrible when they run him out on Fox & Friends in the morning. I usually have to turn the channel. He's such a douche and always wants to talk over everybody.
Thank you and dittos.
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Geraldo is a liberal and has said so on Fox.
Beck is going after everyone who isn't for straightening out this country and getting it back to what the Constitution says it should be...regardless of party.
He is a Libertarian....and has said so.
He has been a little busy going after ACORN and the Czars. If you want him to talk about Christie...you should send him an email. From what I understand....he answers them himself. He is also on FB and has asked people there what specifically do they want addresses. Just go to FB, type in Glenn Beck, and you can get on his "friends" list.
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What is CT?
CT = Conspiracy Theorist.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love Rush, but Boortz is my man. As for Hannity, well, if you heard Rush from 12-3, you've already heard Hannity from 3-6, just in a different voice. I don't understand why he doesn't even try to mask it.
Boortz is king. FTW! :evillaugh:
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Also, this is what makes this site different than DU. Differing opinions aren't "ban-worthy offenses" here. There are many disagreements between conservatives here. There are many Republicans here. "I" am not one of them. I'm an independent conservative who voted for Perot in '92 and '96. Bush the other two times. I'm a veteran of the US Army. I also understand not all people believe in what I believe. It's all good. We are, however, all fiscal and military conservatives here.
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Another thing, Bush, the way he governed in his second term, would not like this site very much. I, for one, didn't not believe in that DUMBASS bailout he pimped last year.
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Another thing, Bush, the way he governed in his second term, would not like this site very much. I, for one, didn't not believe in that DUMBASS bailout he pimped last year.
I blame Henry Paulson more than I blame Bush. Henry Paulson was running around congress and the west wing like a used car salesman crying
"sign. sign. SIGN!"
Unfortunately the bailout will stick out like a sore thumb on George Bush's legacy, unless it is proven that the bailouts did actually save us from entering another great depression.
Also, this is what makes this site different than DU. Differing opinions aren't "ban-worthy offenses" here. There are many disagreements between conservatives here. There are many Republicans here. "I" am not one of them. I'm an independent conservative who voted for Perot in '92 and '96. Bush the other two times. I'm a veteran of the US Army. I also understand not all people believe in what I believe. It's all good. We are, however, all fiscal and military conservatives here.
What is DU?
And yes I like this site.
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Another thing, Bush, the way he governed in his second term, would not like this site very much. I, for one, didn't not believe in that DUMBASS bailout he pimped last year.
You aren't alone there.
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I loved Bush and still do. But do agree that his pushing that first bailout before leaving office was a huge blot on his legacy. My inclination is to believe that he was exhausted and so ready to get out of DC - Barry was already taking over making his acceptance speech in Germany, and I think W just kinda went along with the flow right there at the end on that bailout rather than fight it. I don't think he had much fight left in him.
Mike Conaway is my Congressman. He voted for that first bailout and he ripped his shorts with a lot of people here in Midland over that. He was on the radio right after that telling us how we elected him to go look at the facts and vote in our best interests, despite the fact that around 97% of the calls and emails to his office were asking him not to vote for it, he did anyway. He has a new opponent this next time around from San Angelo. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he gets voted out of office over that. I hope we see a lot of new faces running this next time around. And I've not forgotten that KayBH voted for that first bailout too. That's gonna be thrown up to her quite a bit in our governer race.
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I loved Bush and still do. But do agree that his pushing that first bailout before leaving office was a huge blot on his legacy. My inclination is to believe that he was exhausted and so ready to get out of DC - Barry was already taking over making his acceptance speech in Germany, and I think W just kinda went along with the flow right there at the end on that bailout rather than fight it. I don't think he had much fight left in him.
Mike Conaway is my Congressman. He voted for that first bailout and he ripped his shorts with a lot of people here in Midland over that. He was on the radio right after that telling us how we elected him to go look at the facts and vote in our best interests, despite the fact that around 97% of the calls and emails to his office were asking him not to vote for it, he did anyway. He has a new opponent this next time around from San Angelo. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he gets voted out of office over that. I hope we see a lot of new faces running this next time around. And I've not forgotten that KayBH voted for that first bailout too. That's gonna be thrown up to her quite a bit in our governer race.
I actually got to talk to Rep. Conway about three months ago right after a ceremony here on Ft. Myer. I think he was genuinely surprised to see someone from Midland introducing themselves. It was kinda cool. Unlike his voting for the bailout.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love Rush, but Boortz is my man. As for Hannity, well, if you heard Rush from 12-3, you've already heard Hannity from 3-6, just in a different voice. I don't understand why he doesn't even try to mask it.
Boortz is king. FTW! :evillaugh:
You wouldn't say that if you listened to Howie Carr. Or Mark Levin, for that matter.
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love Rush, but Boortz is my man. As for Hannity, well, if you heard Rush from 12-3, you've already heard Hannity from 3-6, just in a different voice. I don't understand why he doesn't even try to mask it.
Boortz is king. FTW! :evillaugh:
Have to say I find Rush a lot more earworthy than Hannity, Rush keeps up the momentum and doesn't waste his time on morons, while at least every other Hannity caller is some Newark crack dealer or libtard college student with whom he ends up in a pointless but time-consuming "Talking at each other" byplay.
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You wouldn't say that if you listened to Howie Carr. Or Mark Levin, for that matter.
Mark Levin is the sexiest man on the radio :heart:
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Hey Mustang...
Chris Christie is going to be in Neil Cavuto tomorrow at 4pm ET on Fox News...
thought you might want to know...if you don't already. :)
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My point about Glenn Beck is that he will never compliment a Republican. Whoever is the next GOP president, he will go after them as aggressively as he does against Obama. Whether they deserve it or not.
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SCREW the GOP! They have completely lost there way. Don't get me wrong, there are still a large number of Repubs in DC that still try, but after we took back the presidency in 2001, they went on a spending binge the likes of a drunken sailor, a DemonRat sailor at that! If you want anyone, especially Beck, to start backing the Repubs, then you better tell them to remember what conservative values are!
For the last 8 years every congress critter in DC is interested only in how they are going to get re-elected and how many lobbyists they can put in there pocket in order to lock in campaign donations.
If they don't soon grow a spine and remember they have balls, chances are they'll have a helluva time in 2010. With all of the left wing's corruption and Obumbler trying to bankrupt the country, you'd think they would be standing on their chairs in the 2 houses shouting at all of these DemonRat posers spending our money like water. Hell there's no way we have that kind of money! These asshats are just going to frikkin' PRINT IT when they figure out they don't have it! Any idea what is going to happen to the US dollar in the next few years? Hell, even China wants to change what the worlds currency is based on and they own our frikkin' debt! Tell what a good idea it is to sell our debt to the Chinese. Both parties went along with THAT!
Sure there are some who try to get the message out. Glenn even clues us in on who they are, but as a unified party, the Republicans just don't exist!
Frankly, I think Beck is right on the money giving them ALL hell!
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edited to add: I still vote sraight GOP, doesn't mean I have to give them a break!
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Another thing, Bush, the way he governed in his second term, would not like this site very much. I, for one, didn't not believe in that DUMBASS bailout he pimped last year.
Bush completely sold out in his second term and handed the Dems the keys to the House and Senate in '06. Everything from his open borders policy to the bailout. And I'm not sure what he was thinking with Harriet Miers. He was nearly absent on the war while Dems actively worked against the US and openly attacked our troops. And then there was the whole unnecessary ethanol thing.
And throughout both his terms there was a lack of party unity, discipline, and focus coming from the head of the party and an eagerness to support RINOs over conservatives.
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Bush completely sold out in his second term and handed the Dems the keys to the House and Senate in '06. Everything from his open borders policy to the bailout. And I'm not sure what he was thinking with Harriet Miers. He was nearly absent on the war while Dems actively worked against the US and openly attacked our troops. And then there was the whole unnecessary ethanol thing.
And throughout both his terms there was a lack of party unity, discipline, and focus coming from the head of the party and an eagerness to support RINOs over conservatives.
Bailout was after the Dims gained control of Congress, Duke. He sold us out, but that's not why they got control. The economy was sound until October of '07. The Dims won on the wars and the media whipping up the Dumb Masses. Were still in both wars, for any DUmbass lurking and the economy is in the shitter.
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Bailout was after the Dims gained control of Congress, Duke. He sold us out, but that's not why they got control. The economy was sound until October of '07. The Dims won on the wars and the media whipping up the Dumb Masses. Were still in both wars, for any DUmbass lurking and the economy is in the shitter.
My bad, I wasn't clear, I was referencing that Bush started selling out after winning reelection in 2004 that led to the Dems taking over the House and and Senate in '06 but then I went to the whole span of his sellouts in the second term which was everything from amnesty to Harriet Miers to ethanol to the bailout. And then expanding it even further to the lack of party leadership in his role as head of the party.
Which, when he started blathering on early on about "compassionate conservatism" should have sent red flags flying and had us firing up our Enigma machines because when I run "compassionate conservative" through mine it comes out "liberal Republican."
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Also, this is what makes this site different than DU. Differing opinions aren't "ban-worthy offenses" here. There are many disagreements between conservatives here. There are many Republicans here. "I" am not one of them. I'm an independent conservative who voted for Perot in '92 and '96. Bush the other two times. I'm a veteran of the US Army. I also understand not all people believe in what I believe. It's all good. We are, however, all fiscal and military conservatives here.
Thanks jackass
I know........you were young then...........oh well no use for me crying over spilled milk, but you know 41 would not have been just as bad as the first black president clenis, though he would have been just like his son 43. Neither of them were conservative, and had 9/11 not happened 43 might hav been a one termer like his daddy. The man did belive in this country's military and the need to protect it.
Geraldo is a dumbass and should ES then FOAD
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For the last 8 years every congress critter in DC is interested only in how they are going to get re-elected and how many lobbyists they can put in there pocket in order to lock in campaign donations.
It's been going on for a hell of a lot longer than the past 8 years. Both sides are equally quilty of it IMO.
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Geraldo should've been fragged on the spot after giving away the 101st's positions on an international news channel during the invasion of Iraq.
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I just happened to have the tv on and was watching live when Jaraldo first drew out that map of the battle plans and positions in the sand. I sat there with my jaw dropping thinking WTF is he doing and why is someone not stomping his guts out and breaking his bro's camera equipment.