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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: njpines on September 24, 2009, 02:27:17 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6616922 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6616922)
This is too funny!! Greenbrat attempts to post another "story" from her class to prove to the rest of the dummies what a GREAT person/teacher she is and TLB is having none of it. :rotf: By the way, she's now teaching 8th grade (I think it was 6th grade last year) -- yet another reason I'm SO glad she's in Kansas and not NJ.
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 09:42 PM
Original message
Just when you think all decency is lost in this younger generation something changes your mind...see
I teach 8th graders
Today we were discussing the "middle passage" and reality as a slave and we got very graphic and detailed.
Now...before we go any further...this particular class has a bunch of "personalities" and about 5 kids get really irritated.
Today one black girl raised her hand and stated the following:
Mrs. Greenbriar, I don't mean to sound ungrateful or anything but I think I would rather have lived then. I know I would have been a slave but At least people had respect and values and morals and did not act like fools or idiots...
WOW
I told her well XXX that would have put us on different sides, she said no Mrs. Greenbriar, I feel you would have been one of those slave owners that would have risked everything to teach us to read and write and better our lives
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. well not all slaves were whipped
and she was talking about the values and HONOR that slaves had even given their situation
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Honor?
Slaves had honor?
What books are you using in that course?
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 09:52 PM
Response to Original message
5. A fifth-grade girl
talking like that?
Choosing slavery?
A black girl, eleven or twelve years old, in America, told you that she'd prefer to have lived as a slave because today's culture is too crass for her?
Who are her parents, and what has she been taught about slavery? Does she know exactly what it was? What it entailed?
I'm sure you would have been a most benevolent slave owner, Mrs. Greenbriar, but I have trouble believing that any child with a functioning brain would make that choice.
Or even talk like that......................................
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Eighth!
I read "fifth" These new glasses, I swear. My mistake, my apology.
That makes it even worse Why one earth would a normal eighth-grader girl believe that slavery was a favorable option to her life today?
You might have included that last line in your OP, rather than the self-serving praise you included. If the girl's that unhappy, that she articulates her preference for slavery as a way of life, she needs to be seeing a counselor and getting some help - not being used as a vehicle for praise of some twisted kind on a message board.
Instead of citing her comment as a prelude to what a fine slave owner you would have been, you should have been making arrangements for someone to talk with that child, since a comment like that sounds far too much like depression talking, and bullying is not anything to be taken lightly................
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. well, my number one fan...I did go talk to the counselor after class
so take all your concern away
and I know what I am doing...I just felt that she in addition to being upset (again that class is pretty much the shits)
she has honor inside is striving to be more than many
Sure -- GB knows what she's doing . . . :whatever:
Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
10. Haha! And you take it as a compliment that you would have bee a good slave owner.
Unbelievable.
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. that is NOT what was implied
jesus can you guys not read and then read between the lines...
she was saying that from me she gets the courage to speak her mind and look to bigger and better things
god dang sometimes I don't know why I even try with you people
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. You wrote it very plainly -
there was nothing to "get."
What a fine slave owner you would have been, Mrs. Greenbriar. That doesn't take much reading between the lines, except the Subject LIne on your OP was heralding the statement this kid made.
Are you nuts?
You are establishing a pattern of posting half-stories, half-truths, and then taking umbrage when people point out the great big holes and fallacies in your tales.
Your second sentence here fits with this first - more "I am so wonderful" stuff that completely disregards the fact that this is a kid in trouble, if what you're telling about her is true. Bullying, depression, and the wish to live as a slave instead of where she is today.
You're lucky to have us people to show us what you're doing - we shine a nice honest light on your stories, and force out the truth, which is rarely pretty..
:rotf:
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. you know
I have just about had it with your piety and your jumping into all of my posts to point out the "ERROR of my Ways"
so
respectfully
**** YOU
Uh oh, getting nasty now :evillaugh:
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Nice -
That's the kind of temperament you dream of finding in a teacher. The openness, the willingness, the ability to transmit an idea, the ability to explain, clarify, and discuss.
The truth hurts, eh?
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. I am done with you so take your high and mighty attitude elsewhere
I have put up with you long enough
and yes I am a teacher and I say again
**** YOu
greenbriar (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. oh before I put you on ignore please feel free to correct my grammar
spelling and punctuation ect...
and just know that I did not tell you the plan that the counselor and I talked about and the discussion we had with said student together
I just wanted to relay that this girl sees the bigger picture and is going to do great things in her life!
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-23-09 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. "etc"
Not "ect."
You would have been so better served if you'd told the story about the counselor and getting help for that girl instead of bleating about what a kind slave owner she thought you would have been..
And there's the punchline! :rotf: Sorry this was so long but that's the funniest thing I've read today; just thought I'd pass it along.
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All I can say is to the Gloria Swanson primitive:
You go, sweetheart. franksolich has your back.
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Now that is a thing of beauty. :-)
I needed a good long giggle today.
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Now that is a thing of beauty. :-)
I needed a good long giggle today.
Oh, madam, I can't tell you how good this is.
That's why I stickied it.
And thanks to njpines for finding it; it's great.
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Between that and that sweet little man finding all that gold in England, I have had TWO things to smile about today.
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Thanks Frank! I needed Kleenex for that exchange; I was laughing so hard :rotf:
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That is SO gonna leave a mark!
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OH.
MY.
GOD.
That Greenbriar.
She's a hoot.
I wonder if that student would want to come and live in her house with the obnoxious drunk guy.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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More figure skating from GB:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6623166
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More figure skating from GB:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6623166
I'm thinking Greenbriar isn't so popular at the DUmp.
pecwae (1000+ posts)
Thu Sep-24-09 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
17. And so?
Children of color aren't entitled to an opinion no matter how you may feel about it so you squeal to the kid's aunt? Jeez!
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More figure skating from GB:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6623166
Uh oh -- those 2 kids are definitely racist!! Mrs. Greenbriar will have to straighten them out. How long until we see another post where she's gotten together with the school counselor and removed those kids from that abusive environment to a better place (aka re-education camp). Will she finally earn her wings?? Stay tuned, folks . . .
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More figure skating from GB:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6623166
Racist.
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I think GreenBriar has made herself a pariah among her primitive brethren - the bouncies, the self-serving tales, the open bragging about her finances- she has joined Sir William the Pittiful at the bottom of the ditch.
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I think GreenBriar has made herself a pariah among her primitive brethren - the bouncies, the self-serving tales, the open bragging about her finances- she has joined Sir William the Pittiful at the bottom of the ditch.
Yeah.
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More figure skating from GB:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6623166
I went there, hoping to see if the Gloria Swanson primitive had shown up, too, but alas no.
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Oh lawd, that was hilarious. Frau Grunbriar is such a self-absorbed cow. :lmao:
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A great thread!
I'm surprised DUmmy TLB didn't mention the episode where DUmmy greenbriar was temporarily tombstoned
for plagiarizing another DUmmy's rant.
Of course every word DUmmy greenbriar posted is fantasy, but she expected the DUmp to praise her
and got exactly the opposite. Beautiful.
I still think DUmmy TLB is the most arrogant, obnoxious, hateful DUmmy of the bunch lately, but this
thread was custom made for her talent.
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I still think DUmmy TLB is the most arrogant, obnoxious, hateful DUmmy of the bunch lately, but this thread was custom made for her talent.
Well, I must say what endeared me to the Gloria Swanson primitive was her comment about not being able to read the computer screen accurately because she's having trouble getting used to her new eyeglasses.
The image of a woman of Pulchtritude dealing with one of the frailties of Old Age, for some reason, struck me as charming.
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Well, I must say what endeared me to the Gloria Swanson primitive was her comment about not being able to read the computer screen accurately because she's having trouble getting used to her new eyeglasses.
The image of a woman of Pulchtritude dealing with one of the frailties of Old Age, for some reason, struck me as charming.
I think franksolich is far, far more tolerant and accommodating than the average person.
I can think of nothing whatever that could make that arrogant, hateful old bitch charming.
She is certainly no Clare Boothe Luce.
I detest her, but nevertheless admire the strokes she laid on DUmmy greenbriar.
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-24-09 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. I do not have any students that showed that much vitrol no
that was why I was so taken aback
No I do not teach English/Grammar
and I hate grammar police
::)
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I think franksolich is far, far more tolerant and accommodating than the average person.
Now, I've never seen what the Gloria Swanson primitive looks like, as she's never posted a photograph of herself on Skins's island.
Maybe she has on other web-sites, but being the sporting type, I restrict my knowledge of primitives only as the primitives are on Skins's island; I don't pry beyond the sands and beach of Skins's island.
I'll bet, though, that I'm reasonably right in that the Gloria Swanson primitive takes care of herself, that she's no hefty chunky fat primitive, like many of the femmes on Skins's island are. I'll bet the Gloria Swanson primitive remains thin and slender and svelte, and even in her Great Age, could probably fit into the same clothes she wore as a young woman seducing Charles Evans Hughes.
It's very difficult for a woman to take care of herself--all the troubles of the world seem to come down on their shoulders, after all--and especially if a woman has borne infants, one can excuse the few, or several, pounds put on here and there.
So it's perhaps probably maybe possibly okay if a woman lets herself go--but what it does, it makes those women who take a concentrated effort to not let themselves go all the more remarkable, and admirable.
Compare the Gloria Swanson primitive, for example, against the greedy briar primitive.
No contest.
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Is she a teacher or an aide. She does not seem to have much of an education, and her writing is atrocious.
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Is she a teacher or an aide. She does not seem to have much of an education, and her writing is atrocious.
The greedy briar primitive is an 8th-grade social studies teacher, in or around Wichita, Kansas. Circa 40 years old, kind of a chub.
Not to be confused with the Die alte Sau, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, the "Proud2BLibKansan" primitive, who teaches special education, in or around Kansas City, Kansas. Known to be 56 years old, her insides messed up.
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It's a toss-up. Both of them are attention whores and both lie. Neither of them have the right to belittle or question the other.
If it did happen and the kid actually said this...
At least people had respect and values and morals and did not act like fools or idiots...
... she's right. At least compared to how some people act today, the primitives being the worst of the worst.
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All I can say is to the Gloria Swanson primitive:
You go, sweetheart. franksolich has your back.
Lordy Lordy Lordy... I do reckon she make a fine slave owner Frank. omg.
If this is true that girl needs some serious un-DUmmie help
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Indeed. One would think a college graduate would know how to spell and use proper punctuation, or at least know how a spell-checker works.
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Indeed. One would think a college graduate would know how to spell and use proper punctuation, or at least know how a spell-checker works.
My mom was complaining the other day about how her boss, who is an Elementary School Principal, doesn't have very good spelling or grammar, which is just incomprehensible to me. Not that schools are doing much to improve the spelling of the nation, what with their use of "Best Guess Spelling". :whatever:
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My mom was complaining the other day about how her boss, who is an Elementary School Principal, doesn't have very good spelling or grammar, which is just incomprehensible to me. Not that schools are doing much to improve the spelling of the nation, what with their use of "Best Guess Spelling".
My rule is that an intelligent person is always curious, which leads to being well-read.
Anyone who has the intelligence to be well-read will unavoidably acquire some skill in spelling,
punctuation, grammar, vocabulary, and sentence structure by osmosis. That skill can be greatly
enhanced by primary and secondary education, but there's no substitute for years of reading.
Ergo, anyone who demonstrates atrocious spelling, punctuation, grammar, vocabulary, and
sentence structure is not very intelligent.
I've personally never known anyone who is an exception to that rule, though I'm sure they exist.
You probably have to go outside civilized society.
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I find the comments from both of them revealing in this regard:
greenbriar
I told her well XXX that would have put us on different sides
Tangerine LaBamba
…. she needs to be seeing a counselor and getting some help ….. you should have been making arrangements for someone to talk with that child, since a comment like that sounds far too much like depression talking
Slavery just happens to be the topic on this occasion, but this is a pattern with the primitives and liberals in general. You have 2 primitives who have assigned themselves a place of superiority in that they wish to be able to tell a black person what is and isn’t in their own best interest. Another reason their attempts at calling others “racist†always falls short.
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My rule is that an intelligent person is always curious, which leads to being well-read.
Anyone who has the intelligence to be well-read will unavoidably acquire some skill in spelling,
punctuation, grammar, vocabulary, and sentence structure by osmosis. That skill can be greatly
enhanced by primary and secondary education, but there's no substitute for years of reading.
Ergo, anyone who demonstrates atrocious spelling, punctuation, grammar, vocabulary, and
sentence structure is not very intelligent.
I've personally never known anyone who is an exception to that rule, though I'm sure they exist.
You probably have to go outside civilized society.
What a load of crap...Just open your eyes.....There are people who are very intelligent who can't spell for shit....Your "holier than thou" 'tude is very boorish...As the homegirl says "Ya ain't all that"....
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TLB sure hates her some Greenbriar!
:rotf:
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What a load of crap...Just open your eyes.....There are people who are very intelligent who can't spell for shit....Your "holier than thou" 'tude is very boorish...As the homegirl says "Ya ain't all that"....
Sorry, just drawing on personal experience. I'm sure there are a few exceptions, like dyslexics,
for example, but I've just never met one. Pinheads like DUmmy greenbriar are far more common.
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Sorry, just drawing on personal experience. I'm sure there are a few exceptions, like dyslexics,
for example, but I've just never met one. Pinheads like DUmmy greenbriar are far more common.
I think what is very telling about greenbriar is that she doesn't even make the effort to use those things correctly. For example, I'm just a housewife(college educated, but still just a mother and housewife). Because of this, I come on here casually and really don't pay attention to if I'm doing everything properly. However, I think if I'd presented myself as a schoolteacher, I would like to think I'd make every effort to put forth a good example of my profession in the things that I do, whether I'm presenting those things casually or professionally. The fact remains, she presented herself as a teacher on a casual forum so she has set the bar for her postings imo. Her profession is KNOWING THESE VERY THINGS SHE DISDAINS(ie "I hate the grammar police") and that's what is a little disconcerting to the rest of us who are essentially her employer.
I think they are less a matter of intelligence and more of a matter of pride, especially when one is representative of their profession. That said, greenbriar has never really been one to show a lot of pride in anything she does.
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The greedy briar primitive is an 8th-grade social studies teacher, in or around Wichita, Kansas. Circa 40 years old, kind of a chub.
Not to be confused with the Die alte Sau, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, the "Proud2BLibKansan" primitive, who teaches special education, in or around Kansas City, Kansas. Known to be 56 years old, her insides messed up.
I'm beginning to have doubts about Greenbriars profession. I'm starting to think she works in a school cafeteria or a janitor.
Remember that DUmmy's lie. All the time. They lie. Embellishment is their middle name.
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Sorry, just drawing on personal experience. I'm sure there are a few exceptions, like dyslexics,
for example, but I've just never met one. Pinheads like DUmmy greenbriar are far more common.
Then I would say your "personal experiences" are very limited....
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Oh now, don't everybody get out of shape because of this spelling-and-grammar issue.
According to many psychiatric theories, weaknesses in spelling and grammar among the literate and well-educated (those otherwise being excepted) betray a contempt for others.
In this case, it reveals the contempt of a primitive for all the other primitives.
We see it in the correct-but-slapdash writing quality of the Bostonian Drunkard too.
The greedy briar primitive knows perfectly well how to spell, how to use correct grammar, and how to present her thoughts in a well-organized way. She does know.
However, the greedy briar primitive obviously despises her fellow primitives, and doesn't do her best to present herself in the manner she is capable. It's sort of like being a slob in front of other people; "Well, I really dislike them [other people], and so I don't have to look good for them."
Every time the greedy briar primitive puts up a sloppy piece of work, she's showing her contempt for her fellow primitives; she doesn't care how it looks, because they're only primitives, after all.
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Then I would say your "personal experiences" are very limited....
Most people who have bad spelling do so because they don't read. I don't blame them. They were probably taught "whole word" and "best guess" spelling in school. This made it a pain to read apparently. I read for enjoyment but for many reading is just arduous. I find it sad that so many people have been so badly mid-educated.
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Most people who have bad spelling do so because they don't read. I don't blame them. They were probably taught "whole word" and "best guess" spelling in school. This made it a pain to read apparently. I read for enjoyment but for many reading is just arduous. I find it sad that so many people have been so badly mid-educated.
I read everything I can get my hands on...but I still can't write or spell for shit...If I didn't have spell check my posts would prolly be unreadable..
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I read everything I can get my hands on...but I still can't write or spell for shit...If I didn't have spell check my posts would prolly be unreadable..
Ah you obviously have CSCS. This is a growing affliction, especially for those attending public skools... Can't Spell Crap Syndrome... it's so sad. :naughty:
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Ah you obviously have CSCS. This is a growing affliction, especially for those attending public skools... Can't Spell Crap Syndrome... it's so sad. :naughty:
When I attended public school the teachers could still bust your ass, then they called your parents and ya got it again at home...
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When does a DUmmy use apostrophe's to spell plural's?
Alway's.
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When I attended public school the teachers could still bust your ass, then they called your parents and ya got it again at home...
I remember. I was sent to the principals office once. I KNEW I'd get a spanking. So I just walked home. BOY did I learn some painful lessons that day.
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TLB waves the bullshit flag:
Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-25-09 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. But, you see,
greenbriar would have been, according to her story, a wonderful and benevolent and civilly-disobedient slave owner who would have, of course, taught her slaves to read and to write. :sarcasm:
You see, she would have been one of those really, really good slave owners. The ones who don't get much publicity because, well, they just didn't have the right PR firms representing them. :sarcasm:
The idea that someone taught this kid that slavery wasn't so bad is deeply disturbing, but I'm now convinced that the story is fiction, so I'm no longer troubled about a poor kid so troubled that she would embrace the life of a slave. ..................................
Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-25-09 09:52 PM
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51. After watching all the responses here,
so many from clear-thinking people who are as appalled as I was to read this OP, I have come to a conclusion, and it's all of my making, so I take complete responsibility for it.
I don't think this ever happened. I do not believe that any kid, no matter how harassed or upset, would tell any teacher that she wished to be a slave, or that she would be certain that the teacher would have been "one of those slave owners that would have risked everything to teach us read and write and better our lives."
I'm not believing any of it. That the idea of getting this kid help didn't come up until I raised it, and the "teacher's" claim, quite belatedly, that she'd talked to a counselor is just too pat, and the timing of its insertion by the OP is hardly believable.
When someone is found to have stolen another's words, and has been publicly proclaimed to be a plagiarist, that person's words are forever after suspect. Maybe this event really happened, but I doubt it very much. I think there was a story somewhere, and the OP just took some parts and made it her own self-serving, self-congratulatory work of fiction...........................
:bs:
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TLB waving the bullshit flag:
:bs:
We should offer a complimentary invitation to the CC to Tangerine LaBamba - she's sounding more sensible everyday. Most of the DUmmies seem to fall for just about anything but she seems to actually have her BS radar working.
Way to go TLB!
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Good job, DUmmy TLB!
Finally, she brought up DUmmy greenbriar's history of plagiarism, and DUmmy greenbriar
immediately asked DUmp mods to lock her thread.
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I second Jake's sentiment. Though I'm sure that our political views would clash, I'm also sure that we could share a beer or two without pouring them over each other's heads (TLB and me). :fuelfire:
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Ergo, anyone who demonstrates atrocious spelling, punctuation, grammar, vocabulary, and
sentence structure is not very intelligent.
I've personally never known anyone who is an exception to that rule, though I'm sure they exist.
You probably have to go outside civilized society.
Google "copy editor" -- George Will has one, and I don't think the man would be categorized as "not very intelligent."
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Oh my.
I'd be delighted if the Gloria Swanson primitive were to join us here, even if only off-and-on.
It would give her an opportunity to hang around with high-class people, instead of the primitives.
And maybe she could critique franksolich's first-drafts posted here.
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Google "copy editor" -- George Will has one, and I don't think the man would be categorized as "not very intelligent."
I draw a distinction between typos and DUmbitude.