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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Happy Fun Ball on September 19, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
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From Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/09/brezinski_calls_for_obama_to_s.asp):
Brezinski Calls for Obama to Shoot Down Israeli Jets; "A Liberty in Reverse"
In a little noticed interview with the Daily Beast (presumably little noticed because serious people don't read the Daily Beast), Zbigniew Brzezinski suggests that Barack Obama do more than just refuse to support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites -- the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace:
DB: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America’s worst interest?
Brzezinski: We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?
DB: What if they fly over anyway?
Brzezinski: Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse.
Contrary to Brezinski's half-hearted disclaimer that no one wishes for such an outcome, there are plenty on the left who would delight in a pitched battle between the United States and Israel. Democrats in Congress routinely support resolutions affirming Israel's right to take whatever steps it deems necessary to assure its own national defense. And Obama has at least paid lip service to the concept. But hostility to Israel among the rank and file is very real on the left -- and among "realists."
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I think I'm gonna take this story over to CU... try to rile the sleeping Gator. :-)
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This is just another example of the outright evil that permeates the democrat party.
One can only hope the military would disobey such an order.
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This is just another example of the outright evil that permeates the democrat party.
One can only hope the military would disobey such an order.
The order would never come down. Obama recieved massive support from American jews. Care to guess how quickly that would dissapear if he ordered such attacks?
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The order would never come down. Obama recieved massive support from American jews. Care to guess how quickly that would dissapear if he ordered such attacks?
It's already disappeared in Israel. In the next paragraph (the one I didn't post), it says that only 4% of the people over there think Obama is pro-Israel.
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It's already disappeared in Israel. In the next paragraph (the one I didn't post), it says that only 4% of the people over there think Obama is pro-Israel.
Pretty impressive. The Israelis have the Insanely Stupid in their midst whittled down to just 4% of their population. Good for them. Too bad we can't do the same.
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I have no doubt that the Military would refuse to attack any Israeli aircraft.
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The order would never come down. Obama recieved massive support from American jews. Care to guess how quickly that would dissapear if he ordered such attacks?
They don't have that much of a recent track record for making their election decisions based on how it's going to work out for Israel.
Really, I don't see the US actively permitting a third player to launch and recover an attack mission through controlled war zone airspace against a fourth uninvolved player.
Since the defense of Iraq is theoretically in the hands of Iraqis, or in the process of being turned over to them for principal responsility, there is a whole dimension to taking ourselves out of the loop on it that ZB leaves completely unexplored, however.
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This assuming the IAF would fly over Iraq. Saudi Arabia's already said they'd let Israel fly over their airspace to attack Iran's nuclear sites.