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Title: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Freeper on September 19, 2009, 03:32:54 PM
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Jacobair  (79 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Sep-19-09 04:25 PM
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SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
   
I have a real problem with this.
It totally feeds the stereotype that all Democrats want to do is raise taxes.



(09-17) 20:36 PDT -- Calling soda the new tobacco, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom will introduce legislation this fall that would charge a fee to retailers that sell sugary beverages.

Newsom would need voter approval to tax individual cans of soda and sugary juice, but only needs approval from the Board of Supervisors to levy a fee on retailers. His legislation would charge grocery stores like Safeway and big-box stores, but would not affect restaurants that serve sodas.

Newsom wouldn't say how much the stores would have to pay or how the city would spend the fees. When he first floated the idea in 2007, he said the money would go to his Shape Up San Francisco exercise program and for media campaigns to discourage soda drinking.

The mayor said the city attorney's office has warned him the city would probably be sued over the matter, but he said it is worth the risk to try to curb a leading cause of obesity and diabetes.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/0...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6587456

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nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Sep-19-09 04:27 PM
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1. You may but the tax is being considered
   
at the federal level. Though I hate regressive taxes, there is a reason for it. Take a look at NATIONAL obesity rates.

In other words you hate taxes that you will have to pay.

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rucky  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sat Sep-19-09 04:27 PM
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2. These nanny taxes have to stop.
   
They're regressive, and don't replace education.

Its your party doing this. Just saying.

If libs can't legislate behavior they tax people into submission.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 19, 2009, 04:29:08 PM
This is a tax I can support. They should also increase San Francisco income tax, sales tax,
and property tax. And their utility rates are waaay too low.

Anything that causes pain for Bay Area moonbats is a good thing.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Chris_ on September 19, 2009, 04:38:07 PM
This is a tax I can support. They should also increase San Francisco income tax, sales tax,
and property tax. And their utility rates are waaay too low.

Anything that causes pain for Bay Area moonbats is a good thing.

That's eeeeevil. But very funny!  :lmao:
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: djones520 on September 19, 2009, 09:54:39 PM
Supports the theory?

Have they looked at Illinois?  9% Sales Tax here.  It's frickin ridiculous.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: TheSarge on September 19, 2009, 10:05:35 PM
Supports the theory?

Have they looked at Illinois?  9% Sales Tax here.  It's frickin ridiculous.

I'm sorry sir...but the San Francisco City Council has passed a 25% "Bitching about taxes" tax.

Please make your check payable the Gavin Newsome re-election and hook-up pad fund.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 19, 2009, 10:10:31 PM
Supports the theory?

Have they looked at Illinois?  9% Sales Tax here.  It's frickin ridiculous.

Sales tax is already above 9% in CA, I think it is very nearly 10% in some places. 
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: The Village Idiot on September 19, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
You can take my soda from my fat, jerky dead hand... if you can.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 19, 2009, 10:33:10 PM
You can take my soda from my fat, jerky dead hand... if you can.
Where I come from, soda is some kind of chemical.
You're talking about pop.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: The Village Idiot on September 19, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
The generic term down here is Coke. But Dr. Pepper is #1 in brands and Coke is #2 I think.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: NHSparky on September 19, 2009, 10:55:22 PM
Supports the theory?

Have they looked at Illinois?  9% Sales Tax here.  It's frickin ridiculous.

The just jacked up the sales tax in CA by another 1 percent.  "Low" tax Orange County is at 8.75 percent.  LA County is 9.25 percent.  SF County is 9.5 percent.  Add in the "special" city taxes, and there are places in CA where the sales tax is over 10 percent.  This is, of course, on top of the already Godawful 9.3 percent income tax, fees, car registration which runs TRIPLE what it was when I left (and it was $450 then), and property taxes, among other jewels, and it's amazing that anyone can even afford to live there anymore.

Yep--just keep on taking money that isn't yours from people who don't have it, you assclowns.  The revolution is coming, and we ain't paying the tax on the cake you're inevitably going to tell us to eat.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 19, 2009, 11:18:47 PM
In Tennessee, sales tax is 9+%, but state income tax is zero, city income tax is zero, property taxes are extremely low, car registration $50.

But in Tennessee you don't benefit from all the hundreds of boards, commissions, authorities, and other swarms of regulatory agencies like in California.

There are no gay pride parades that I've heard of, you may have to drive miles to find a free AIDS clinic, and hippies don't live in the treetops.

It's red state hell.

So I guess when it comes to taxes you get what you pay for, and California is just more advanced
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: overlord on September 20, 2009, 03:16:44 AM
Where I come from, soda is some kind of chemical.
You're talking about pop.

Friggin' yankee.. :fuelfire: :-)
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Chris on September 20, 2009, 03:31:01 AM
Friggin' yankee.. :fuelfire: :-)

It's not soda or pop or soda pop. It's Coke.  Or Coca Cola if'n you want to be fancy about it.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: The Village Idiot on September 20, 2009, 04:54:49 AM

You wouldn't believe some of the crazy special taxing districts and things we get in Texas.

Lets say you own a property, your a developer. You park a mobile home on it and get someone to live there. You can do the paperwork and hold an election just covering that land. Since the only resident is a guy your paying, the special tax is passed 1-0. Then you build your development and tax the people you sell land and homes to, even though they didn't get to vote and they never heard of the tax. It'll help pay for the utilities and roads and stuff that have to be put in.

Yes this really happens. Why don't they just pass a stupid law allowing county governments to collect an 'improvement' tax for this stuff, I'll never know.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Chris_ on September 20, 2009, 06:29:45 AM
The generic term down here is Coke. But Dr. Pepper is #1 in brands and Coke is #2 I think.
What retarded ass place do you live?
Dr Pepper? EWWW
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: diesel driver on September 20, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
What retarded ass place do you live?
Dr Pepper? EWWW

RC Cola and moon pies!   :drool:

Now THAT'S good Southern snakin'....
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Chris on September 20, 2009, 08:12:40 AM
RC Cola and moon pies!   :drool:

Now THAT'S good Southern snakin'....

I'm having Dr. Pepper and powdered donuts for breakfast.  I need the sugar. :yawn:
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Lord Undies on September 20, 2009, 09:52:02 AM
I happen to be drinking an ice cold canned Dr. Pepper at this very time.  I have little regard for those who misunderestimate the deliciosity of Dr. Pepper.  Such people obviously have a agenda against their betters in the South.  

On the subject of taxing sodas, should not the Little Goons be raging in revolt against such a biased plan?  After all, the "rich" will not miss one serving of their perferred drink, while the "poor" will have to decide between soda and medicine.

Why do liberals and democrats and Satan hate poor people?
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: NHSparky on September 20, 2009, 10:50:46 AM
RC Cola and moon pies!   :drool:

Now THAT'S good Southern snakin'....

I think my blood sugar just hit 500.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 20, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
RC Cola and moon pies!   :drool:

Now THAT'S good Southern snakin'....
RC was our favorite as children, though we never heard of moon pies.
One of the attractions of Royal Crown was that it was the first pop we could get in big bottles.
The grownups called those bottles (I don't remember if they were 12 oz. or 16 oz.) "horse quarts".

If I had an RC, a chocolate chip cookie, and "Life of Riley" on TV, I would feel like a 10-year-old
on Friday night.

Dr. Pepper is okay, but I never knew a kid who would drink it.

At least Dr. Pepper's better than Pepsi, which we always considered to be a communist front.
I've always said if I wanted to drink Pepsi, I'd just pour two tablespoons of sugar into my Coke, and
then let it sit open overnight.

I'm sure some Pepsi weirdos will disagree.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 20, 2009, 11:47:52 AM
At least Dr. Pepper's better than Pepsi, which we always considered to be a communist front.

Well, their new logo does look suspiciously like Obama's campaign logo . . .
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Lord Undies on September 20, 2009, 11:55:32 AM
RC was our favorite as children, though we never heard of moon pies.
One of the attractions of Royal Crown was that it was the first pop we could get in big bottles.
The grownups called those bottles (I don't remember if they were 12 oz. or 16 oz.) "horse quarts".

If I had an RC, a chocolate chip cookie, and "Life of Riley" on TV, I would feel like a 10-year-old
on Friday night.

Dr. Pepper is okay, but I never knew a kid who would drink it.

At least Dr. Pepper's better than Pepsi, which we always considered to be a communist front.
I've always said if I wanted to drink Pepsi, I'd just pour two tablespoons of sugar into my Coke, and
then let it sit open overnight.

I'm sure some Pepsi weirdos will disagree.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2e5o0b5.jpg)

Above the fireplace in L/room.  :)
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: The Village Idiot on September 20, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
What retarded ass place do you live?
Dr Pepper? EWWW

what you mean eewww?

Texas foo!  :thatsright:
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Karin on September 21, 2009, 10:32:08 AM
GOBUCKS, I'm from "pop" country too, originally (Ohio).  When I moved to NY I got a raft of shit for calling it that.  I agree with you on the Pepsi.  Vile, vile stuff.  Diet Dr. Pepper is my softdrink of choice. 
Funny list of new taxes that SF could enjoy.  Would love to sit and dream up some more, but gotta run. 

Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: USA4ME on September 21, 2009, 10:46:13 AM
On the subject of taxing sodas, should not the Little Goons be raging in revolt against such a biased plan?  After all, the "rich" will not miss one serving of their perferred drink, while the "poor" will have to decide between soda and medicine.

Why do liberals and democrats and Satan hate poor people?

Bingo!  Like sales taxes this is a tax on the poor.  Libs are taxing the poor for their own good.  Don't cha love it?

.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: njpines on September 21, 2009, 12:08:23 PM
"Soda" in NJ -- took my husband many, many years to switch from "pop" to "soda" (he's from NE Ohio).
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: Chris_ on September 21, 2009, 12:09:28 PM
"Soda" in NJ -- took my husband many, many years to switch from "pop" to "soda" (he's from NE Ohio).
Pop is an old man.
Soda is a cooking ingredient.
Coke is what we drink...regardless of the brand.
 :-) :fuelfire:
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: thundley4 on September 21, 2009, 12:16:08 PM
I call it soda, pop, or coke. I grew up on RC Cola, then drank Diet Rite, now only Diet Coke when I drink soft drinks.  Occasionally I do like to have a root beer.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: IassaFTots on September 21, 2009, 12:21:43 PM
Pop is an old man.
Soda is a cooking ingredient.
Coke is what we drink...regardless of the brand.
 :-) :fuelfire:

Would you like something to drink?
Get me a coke.
What kind of coke?
Sprite. 

That is the kind of conversation we have around here. 

I was never allowed to drink RC after a RC truck T-boned my Granddad's Buick. 
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 21, 2009, 01:10:07 PM
Pop is an old man.
Soda is a cooking ingredient.
Coke is what we drink...regardless of the brand.
 :-) :fuelfire:
I can go with pop or coke. They are both generic terms for soft drink.

Anyone who objects to "coke" probably says "tissue" instead of "kleenex", or, god forbid, "cotton swab" instead of "q-tip".

Soda is still a chemical that you don't drink.

I've known quite a few people who called it "soda". They were all northeast moonbats.
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: njpines on September 21, 2009, 01:28:44 PM
I've known quite a few people who called it "soda". They were all northeast moonbats.

This soda-drinker is no "moonbat", I assure you!  :-)
Title: Re: SF Mayor wants to charge stores that sell sodas
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 21, 2009, 01:39:38 PM
This soda-drinker is no "moonbat", I assure you!  :-)
Then I suspect you are in the minority among "soda" drinkers.
Also, welcome.