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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on September 13, 2009, 05:18:44 PM

Title: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: thundley4 on September 13, 2009, 05:18:44 PM

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LuckyTheDog   (1000+ posts)             Sun Sep-13-09 05:25 PM
Original message
Time to declare victory. With or without the public option...   
   ... Obama is poised to make more progress on health care reform than all other presidents since WWII combined. Whatever passes initially will be a victory for our side. And whatever passed initially will not be the last health care bill ever passed. The struggle will go on. The focus will shift to one of two things: 1) improving the public option or 2) moving into high gear on a "Medicare for all" agenda if the public option plan fails to get into the bill.

But this is important part: We have to declare victory.
blah, blah blah

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6540557

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Umbral (295 posts)           Sun Sep-13-09 05:28 PM
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1. Like that wasn't the plan from day one.
   
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 05:29 PM by Umbral
Any bill that make it out of congress is going to be portrayed as a "Victory", regardless of its content.

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LuckyTheDog   (1000+ posts)             Sun Sep-13-09 06:00 PM
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13. It will be the best they can manage in 2009   
   
Again, the fight will go on. And if we can win bigger in 2010, the fight will be

If congress uses reconciliation to ram this through, then the only thing you'll win next election is the title of "biggest losers".

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 13, 2009, 06:03:51 PM

This post makes me  :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :

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And if we can win bigger in 2010, the fight will be

You ain't winning in 2010.

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Election trouble brewing for House Dems in 2010

Because it's an AP story, I'll just post the link.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090913/D9AMHEH00.html

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: Carl on September 13, 2009, 06:08:39 PM

Quote from: BlueStateSaint on September 13, 2009, 06:03:51 PM

This post makes me  :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :

You ain't winning in 2010.

Because it's an AP story, I'll just post the link.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090913/D9AMHEH00.html

I still can`t fathom why they actually believe going farther left will reward them.
Never in recent history has that been the case.

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: thundley4 on September 13, 2009, 06:35:15 PM

Quote from: Carl on September 13, 2009, 06:08:39 PM

I still can`t fathom why they actually believe going farther left will reward them.
Never in recent history has that been the case.

DUmmies don't learn from history and are doomed to repeat it.  Just look how 0Bama thinks the failed socialist policies of other countries can be made to work , this time.

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: md11hydmec on September 13, 2009, 08:24:04 PM

To win, Zero had to go to the center. Otherwise, its President McCain.

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: jukin on September 13, 2009, 09:46:37 PM

Deny reality.
Make a alternate reality.
Accuse others of being in alternate reality

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: crockspot on September 14, 2009, 01:28:49 AM

Quote from: jukin on September 13, 2009, 09:46:37 PM

Deny reality.
Make a alternate reality.
Accuse others of being in alternate reality

You left out a couple of crucial steps. It goes:

Deny reality.
Make a alternate reality.
Accuse others of being in alternate reality
????????????????
Teh Winnah!!!!!!!11111eleventy

Title: Re: If we lose, we'll lie and say we won !!!!! 11 !! eleventy
Post by: Chris_ on September 14, 2009, 10:33:17 AM

Quote from: thundley4 on September 13, 2009, 06:35:15 PM

DUmmies don't learn from history and are doomed to repeat it.  Just look how 0Bama thinks the failed socialist policies of other countries can be made to work , this time.

Republicans need to remember that lesson also.