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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: djones520 on September 11, 2009, 02:08:00 PM
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I'm personally more a fan of Survivorman, but it was only filmed for 24 episodes I think, while Man vs Wild is still going.
So which do you folks prefer?
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I like Bear, but sometimes he scares me because I know that some tard won't listen properly and do something that he does. Les was far too conservative.
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Les.
Bear is a cheater and I'm surprised he is still on the air.
KC
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John Wiseman...
I guess Les Stroud over Bear "Motel 6" Grylls, though.
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I used to like Bear, but he seems obsessed with urine.
I saw Les's show he did on some other channel about the house he built with his wife and family out in Canada. That was pretty cool. I never did like his series tho.
Can I vote for Mike Rowe?
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Both good shows but in quite different ways. Les is more real, though. Gotta hand it to him for doin' it the hard way.
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Both good shows but in quite different ways. Les is more real, though. Gotta hand it to him for doin' it the hard way.
First show of his I saw was when he tied his arm up to simulate injuring it in a plane crash, then went a couple of days with just the use of one arm. I was hooked after seeing that.
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I used to like ManBearPig, but he seems obsessed with urine.
I saw Les's show he did on some other channel about the house he built with his wife and family out in Canada. That was pretty cool. I never did like his series tho.
Can I vote for Mike Rowe?
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Bear Grylls is the host of TV's Man Vs. Wild, a show almost completely centered around him parachuting into the harshest climates on the planet, chopping down trees with a butter knife, building homemade flotation devices out of bamboo shoots and shoelaces and then slaughtering two-thirds of the indigenous species of that particular region using only his bare hands and his teeth.
Bear got his start whomping balls in the British SAS, which is pretty much one of the most badass military units to ever strap on steel-tipped boots and kick terrorists square in the junksack. He was trained in survival, mountaineering, parachuting and hand-to-hand asskicking by the most hardcore drill sergeants this side of Full Metal Jacket and served actively in a bunch of crazy ****ing black ops shit right out of a Chuck Norris movie, until all of a sudden one day his parachute ripped in half while he was plummeting to Earth and he ended up breaking his spine in fifteen places and having his legs eaten by rabid lions. Bear was so badass though that he ended up knifing the lions to death with a rusty shiv and re-attaching his legs using only a pocketknife and a couple vines tied into perfect sqare knots. Since the SAS has this crazy policy where they don't employ dudes with broken backs, they let Bear go off into the wild on his own. Within two years he had miraculously rehabilitated himself to the point where he became the youngest British dude to ever summit Mount Everest. After that he went off and put himself through three months of basic training in the middle of the Sahara Desert for the French Foreign Legion just for fun. Once he sufficiently proved the size of his enormous nuts to the French dudes, he decided it was time to start up Man Vs. Wild and prove to the rest of the world that he was the most hardcore mother****er to ever punch a rattlesnake in the mouth.
Now Man Vs. Wild is ostensibly a program designed "to show you how to survive in the wild" by teaching you all sorts of insane ****ing survival techniques. In actuality, the show is more or less "look at how ****ing awesome I am", because Bear Grylls does all sorts of superhuman insane shit that no other human being on the planet should ever be able to accomplish.
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/grylls.html
For the Bear Grylls haters. :-)
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http://www.badassoftheweek.com/grylls.html
For the Bear Grylls haters. :-)
LOL
That's part of the problem with Bear. He does shit you would NEVER do in a survival situation ... then he and the crew head out to the motel for the night to start all over again tomorrow with the filming as if he spent the night. What a tool.
KC
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LOL
That's part of the problem with Bear. He does shit you would NEVER do in a survival situation ... then he and the crew head out to the motel for the night to start all over again tomorrow with the filming as if he spent the night. What a tool.
KC
True, every show he tries some risky gymnastic shit that you would have to be on crack to do if you were really in survival mode, where and immobilizing injury is a death sentence.
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Bear is purtier to watch..but I like Survivorman better.
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True, every show he tries some risky gymnastic shit that you would have to be on crack to do if you were really in survival mode, where and immobilizing injury is a death sentence.
and he seems unnaturally obsessed with excrement.
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True, every show he tries some risky gymnastic shit that you would have to be on crack to do if you were really in survival mode, where and immobilizing injury is a death sentence.
Survival mode usually leads to crazy attempts. I love watching "I shouldn't be alive" on Discovery...now those are real people doing crazy stuff to stay alive.
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I like me some Bear. :-)
Les is too hippie for me. I can't stand to watch him stare the camera and rattle on and on.
Yeah, I'm a sucker for a cute guy I guess.
I don't have a problem with Bear staying in a hotel at night. They should have been honest from the start though.
http://www.katu.com/entertainment/11081296.html
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Bear Grylls?
He's a fekking Ponce!
Les Stroud has chunks a' guys like him in his stool.
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John Wiseman...
I guess Les Stroud over Bear "Motel 6" Grylls, though.
^^^ +1
Never been a fan of a cheater.
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I like them both but Les gets the nod for being the real deal.
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I think Les is more of a realist and I think he's got better all-round "survivor" chops than Bear-boy Wonder.
I knew Bear-Boy Wonder was a world class idiot when I saw him invade a bee's nest for some honey. He must've been stung hundreds of times, his eyes were swollen shut, and he got more wax than honey.
Freakin' dweeb. :mental:
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I think Les is more of a realist and I think he's got better all-round "survivor" chops than Bear-boy Wonder.
I knew Bear-Boy Wonder was a world class idiot when I saw him invade a bee's nest for some honey. He must've been stung hundreds of times, his eyes were swollen shut, and he got more wax than honey.
Freakin' dweeb. :mental:
I'm watching that episode right now. I'm suprised he's having such a reaction to it. Being allergic to bees is supposed to make you disqualified to serve in the US military. I'd have thought the Brits woulda been like that to.
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I'm watching that episode right now. I'm suprised he's having such a reaction to it. Being allergic to bees is supposed to make you disqualified to serve in the US military. I'd have thought the Brits woulda been like that to.
I was allergic to bees when I went in the Army. I lied and told them I had no allergies.
KC
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I was allergic to bees when I went in the Army. I lied and told them I had no allergies.
KC
Wasn't there someone who cast aspersions that because I knew of people that frauded themselves into the military that I was a bad recruiter??
I've known people that NEVER divulged any existing physical problems and completed the MEPS process and joined the military. It's not something I would condone, though. ;)
Yeah, and now the folks that are IN have to jump through hoops to get rid of someone who shouldn't have been in in the first place... Sorry Rob, whether you'd condone it or not, that's a values FAIL...
First of all, I never stated that I did that while I was a recruiter. Do recruiters get allegations against them?? Yes. Only when the allegations proved true do they get prosecuted.
Secondly, Texacon makes my point for me.
Thirdly, I DO agree that there are people in the military that should have never been able to join. I've had MY share of dirtbags to deal with. And, yes, those types ARE a pain in the ass, however, they're not that difficult to get rid of. I've gotten rid of at least three people during my career.
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Wasn't there someone who cast aspersions that because I knew of people that frauded themselves into the military that I was a bad recruiter??
First of all, I never stated that I did that while I was a recruiter. Do recruiters get allegations against them?? Yes. Only when the allegations proved true do they get prosecuted.
Secondly, Texacon makes my point for me.
Thirdly, I DO agree that there are people in the military that should have never been able to join. I've had MY share of dirtbags to deal with. And, yes, those types ARE a pain in the ass, however, they're not that difficult to get rid of. I've gotten rid of at least three people during my career.
My dad is a former Marine. I wanted to be a Marine but when I went to enlist the recruiter asked me questions. When he asked me if I was allegic to anything and I said "bees" he sat back and said he couldn't take me. No one could. I walked out of his office and straight into the Army recruiter's office. When we got to the part that asked if I was allergic to anything I said "Nope." That was the begining of my enlistment.
I'm sorry. If anyone thinks that is wrong they can kiss my ass. I wanted to serve my country and I wanted to do it in a bad way. I doubt any enemy combatants would have thrown a fit had they known I was allergic to bees. I was a paratrooper and I was proud to be one.
KC
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I actually view Survivor Man and Man vs. Wild separately. One as an outright documentary style show with the other a documentary/entertainment show.
Survivor Man is incredible in the sense that the man is actually going out there and surviving horrific conditions without immediate rescue available or standing by. His dedication, bravery, and knowledge is fantastic. I view it as a documentary more or less, incredibly enriching... but not always entertaining.
While with Man vs. Wild, Bear and the producers essentially just picks some exotic locale. Than proceeds to show a few wild and crazy shenanigans while pointing out a few educational tips. It's an entertainment show versus a documentary; showing exotic locations and some of the dangers they're famous for. Along with showing him navigate a few of those famous dangers.
Both are pretty darn cool in my book :cheersmate:
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I've never seen 'Survivorman', but 'Man vs. Wild was on for about two hours today (or it seemed like it). I can't say I was impressed.
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I haven't seen either of them, but I still mis Steve Irwin.
(http://www.hogrockcafe.com/Ray%20Ban%20Croc%20Hunter.jpg)
Too soon, or too late?
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I'm watching that episode right now. I'm suprised he's having such a reaction to it. Being allergic to bees is supposed to make you disqualified to serve in the US military. I'd have thought the Brits woulda been like that to.
I'm not sure about the point you're making regarding a "reaction" to hundreds of bee stings.
Seems to me that regardless of allergies a person might or might not have, if your ass gets stung by hundreds of bees, you're gonna swell up like a balloon.
Bee stings don't tickle. I've been stung numerous times (singly each time) and the swelling and itching, not to mention the pain, is pretty compelling. AFAIK, I'm not allergic to bee stings.
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If you were actually allergic to bee stings, and got hundreds of them, you'd just be frickin' dead in half an hour, back-up team or not. Having your face completely swell up from it is not an abnormal or allergic reaction at all.
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My dad is a former Marine. I wanted to be a Marine but when I went to enlist the recruiter asked me questions. When he asked me if I was allegic to anything and I said "bees" he sat back and said he couldn't take me. No one could. I walked out of his office and straight into the Army recruiter's office. When we got to the part that asked if I was allergic to anything I said "Nope." That was the begining of my enlistment.
I'm sorry. If anyone thinks that is wrong they can kiss my ass. I wanted to serve my country and I wanted to do it in a bad way. I doubt any enemy combatants would have thrown a fit had they known I was allergic to bees. I was a paratrooper and I was proud to be one.
KC
Texacon, my statements weren't really directed at you, but to those that made some rather pointed accusations about Recruiters.
It's NOT my fault if someone fails to inform me of some potentially disqualifying factor. I worked very hard to get people into the Navy and I even put in some shady characters. Of course, I DID run the required waivers. I helped one guy enlist that was living on the streets of Minneapolis in the winter. Non High school grad that could barely pass the ASVAB. Turns out he had enough college/ Votech to make him the equivalent of a high school grad. He also had some criminal stuff in his background. ALL of this was on record when he went to process.
As far as a "values fail", one needs to walk in the shoes of a Recruiter before they make asinine statements and condemnations like that.
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Texacon, my statements weren't really directed at you, but to those that made some rather pointed accusations about Recruiters.
It's NOT my fault if someone fails to inform me of some potentially disqualifying factor. I worked very hard to get people into the Navy and I even put in some shady characters. Of course, I DID run the required waivers. I helped one guy enlist that was living on the streets of Minneapolis in the winter. Non High school grad that could barely pass the ASVAB. Turns out he had enough college/ Votech to make him the equivalent of a high school grad. He also had some criminal stuff in his background. ALL of this was on record when he went to process.
As far as a "values fail", one needs to walk in the shoes of a Recruiter before they make asinine statements and condemnations like that.
No sweat. I didn't take it personally. Recruiters have a tough job and because of that a very high suicide rate. That is a lot of pressure.
KC
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I think Les is more of a realist and I think he's got better all-round "survivor" chops than Bear-boy Wonder.
I knew Bear-Boy Wonder was a world class idiot when I saw him invade a bee's nest for some honey. He must've been stung hundreds of times, his eyes were swollen shut, and he got more wax than honey.
Freakin' dweeb. :mental:
Les Stroud is without a doubt an excellent outdoors man whose demonstrated that he can survive in harsh hellish conditions. I wouldn't want to compare the survival skills or training between the two. Bear's show is entertainment first.
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I'm not sure about the point you're making regarding a "reaction" to hundreds of bee stings.
Seems to me that regardless of allergies a person might or might not have, if your ass gets stung by hundreds of bees, you're gonna swell up like a balloon.
Bee stings don't tickle. I've been stung numerous times (singly each time) and the swelling and itching, not to mention the pain, is pretty compelling. AFAIK, I'm not allergic to bee stings.
He only got stung by one and his face swelled up like a balloon. I've been stung by 5 before, and there was no swelling at all.
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Texacon, my statements weren't really directed at you, but to those that made some rather pointed accusations about Recruiters.
It's NOT my fault if someone fails to inform me of some potentially disqualifying factor. I worked very hard to get people into the Navy and I even put in some shady characters. Of course, I DID run the required waivers. I helped one guy enlist that was living on the streets of Minneapolis in the winter. Non High school grad that could barely pass the ASVAB. Turns out he had enough college/ Votech to make him the equivalent of a high school grad. He also had some criminal stuff in his background. ALL of this was on record when he went to process.
As far as a "values fail", one needs to walk in the shoes of a Recruiter before they make asinine statements and condemnations like that.
Amen to that. My father did the job for 6 years. Everytime I see someone attacking recruiters I want to put my boot so far up their ass they can taste the rubber.
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He only got stung by one and his face swelled up like a balloon. I've been stung by 5 before, and there was no swelling at all.
I saw the program, Jonesey. There's no way in hell he got stung by only one bee. I could see them swarming all around him. Then there was the "after" shot with Bear swollen up so badly he couldn't see properly.
Perhaps you're not affected by bee stings. Most people are affected, but it doesn't mean they're allergic to bee stings. If you're allergic to bee stings, as DAT pointed out, anaphylactic shock can put you down PERMANENTLY.