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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on September 11, 2009, 06:34:10 AM
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Oh my.
The W.C. Fields primitive:
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 05:38 PM
Original message
Hey, hard lefties....
Don't piss into the wind....
Obama's going to get you covered. Don't cut the nose off to spite the face.
Learn the difference between what is right and what can actually be accomplished...
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. Oh, don't tell me YOU buy into this "hard left" bullshit.
Ain't many ****ing communists around here, but thanks for playing.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
12. Tell me, mythsage, just what the **** do you want, and...what the **** do you expect?
Ask yourself, are you really out of touch with the general public?
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #12
39. mythsage, I'm still waiting for your response.
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #12
40. Apparently I am.
I have good health insurance which, under this plan, is likely to get better. Sorry about all those ****s left in the cold, though.
On edit: But enough with this "far left" and "hard left" bullshit. It's bullshit when the Republicans do it, it's bullshit when DUers do it.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #40
49. you still haven't told us what you want, or how to go about gettng it.
can you please be more specific?
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. I've been saying it from the beginning of this crap...
Not my fault you didn't pay attention.
The Democrats ****ed us by approaching the Repugs on bended knee rather than for asking for far, far more than they thought they'd ever get. A strong public option should have been the compromise after wrangling, not the first salvo in the negotiation. Single Payer should've been the first salvo, but no one had enough courage or commitment to do it that way.
We pay these people way too much for them to be so bad at their jobs.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. yeah, like I'm supposed to pay close attention to every ****ing word you say...
a little bit of ego?
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. you must be new to the democratic process....
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #55
62. I, at least, know how to negotiate...
So do the Republicans. The Democrats? Not so much.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #62
77. you know how to negotiate?
let's not get silly
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #53
61. I don't care what you pay attention to...
But since this has been my main issue for the past year, I get the impression you haven't read a single thing I've said on the subject. That's fine. But I've spent hours explaining it a hell of a lot better than I'm going to do in a quick response in your own misnamed ego-driven OP.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #61
78. I've read some of what you say, and you want perfection.
news flash. it was never going to happen. I live in the real world. It's not perfect, by any means but it's the world I live in.
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. No, you're not me...
I just expected the Democrats to come out firing, not groveling. They started the negotiations with the most watered-down version they could imagine. The first shot should have been single-payer, full and solid. If the positions were reversed, that's how the Repugs would do it. Go for Mars but accept the moon in the end. Instead, we go for a gold nugget and accept a grain of sand.
They damn well BETTER know how to negotiate. Five year old KIDS negotiate better than these ****s did.
franksolich is going to so steal that line from the maudlin waif primitive.
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #58
71. You're sure emotionally invested in this pathetic "compromise."
Compromise is in quotes because it's actually "capitulation."
The maudlin waif primitive by the way stole that word from my fellow alum Skins.
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #30
45. Will this get you insurance? If so, good.
I'm glad for you. That doesn't mean I don't see this as a sell-out in the long run. I'm capable of holding two conflicting ideas in my head at the same time. One, I'm glad if it helps folks like you. Two, I'm really concerned that it'll end up ****ing us all in the long run.
Simply put--I don't trust mandates without a strong public option. Not only that, but I don't want some watered down, bare bones operation the Republicans can eviscerate at the first opportunity. And that's likely what we'll get.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #18
64. You misunderstand. I am addressing the hard leftists who are more than willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Remember, I said "HARD LEFTISTS.!!!! they do not represent the party as a whole. If those are who you align yourself with, then I am opposed to you.
Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #64
73. Sorry, but the communists are in short supply...
And the rest of us don't accept your label.
Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-10-09 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #73
81. nothing would make a person like you happy.
The unfrocked warped primitive's at the bonfire too, but as it's a big bonfire, never mind.
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Never once will they admit the truth.
Idiot says he has good insurance yet has a beef so why?
Would seem the obvious answer is that he thinks government healthcare will free up money that he is now spending.
They don`t give a damn about anyone else but themselves.
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What's the difference between, "The Left", "The Far Left" and "The Hard Left"?
They're all batshit crazy commies, aren't they?
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At least the W.C. Fields primitive admits that he's nothing but a Dem party loyalist and a Dear Leader cult follower who will obey whatever his leadership tells him to do. The maudlin waif primitive is, too, he'll just have to be brow beaten a little more until he sees the light.
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