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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: franksolich on September 09, 2009, 05:27:55 PM
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The official ongoing Bo's speech to Congress thread.
Speech starts at 7:00 p.m. central time, 6:00 p.m. mountain time.
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For further illumination, Bela Pelosi and Harry Reid were lying; they don't have the votes.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm
That's with, or without, the public option.
It's remarkable; the dissenting Democrats aren't all blue dogs, aren't all southerners.
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I would not be surprised if more and more Democrats distance themselves from this president.
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I would not be surprised if more and more Democrats distance themselves from this president.
They are timid things, the Democrats. None of them want to be the first to deny The One, but as more of them get up the intestinal fortitude to do so, even more of them feel its safe to follow suit and vote 'nay'
I am getting amusement out of the 'if its not liberal enough I am voting against it' crowd -- they discovered how they can avoid angering most of their constituents without angering their moonbat base in the process.
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Democrats to watch:
Rep. John Adler (D-NJ)
Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA)
Rep. John Barrow (D-GA)
Rep. Dan Boren (D-OK)
Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.)
Rep. Rick Boucher (D-VA)
Rep. Bobby Bright (D-AL)
Rep. Chris Carney (D-PA)
Rep. Travis Childers (D-MS)
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO)
Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN)
Rep. Jerry Costello (D-IL)
Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX)
Rep. Kathleen Dahlkamper (D-PA)
Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-TN)
Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-OH)
Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D-IN)
Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN)
Rep. Parker Griffith (D-Al)
Rep. Debbie Halvorson (D-IL)
Rep. Baron Hill (D-IN)
Rep. Tim Holden (D-PA)
Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)
Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Rep. Frank Kratovil Jr. (D-MD)
Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA)
Rep. Eric Massa (D-NY)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (D-NC)
Rep. Charlie Melancon (D-LA)
Rep. Walt Minnick (D-ID)
Rep. John Murtha (D-PA)
Rep. James Oberstar (D-MN)
Rep. Salomon Ortiz (D-TX)
Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA)
Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN)
Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO)
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND)
Rep. Mike Ross (D-AL)
Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC)
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI)
Rep. John Tanner (D-TN)
Rep. Gene Taylor (D-MS)
Rep. Dina Titus (D-NV)
This is all from Drudge; the moonbat Demos who plan to vote "no" if no public option, are listed too.
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I can not see any democratic senator in my state of Florida voting for this....there are way too many old people who vote in this state who will hold them accountable.
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T minus seven minutes till nap
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Everybody got their drinks ready?
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Already 10 minutes late
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Why all the liberal women seem to be wearing red??
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Everybody got their drinks ready?
Just a little Sutter Home tonight - Work in the morning
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Already 10 minutes late
I think I miss this most about President G. W. Bush - regardless of what one feels about his policies, the man was almost always on time - to the minute.
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OMG here come the sob stories... what a bunch of crap.
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Blaming the GOP now
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All the regulation.... good Lord.
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Ahh 4 years from now................and now a gov't optionn in McCains proposal that he attacked but is now a good idea
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Ahh those without insurance everyone will have to have it
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Frickin' doublespeak.
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Ahh those without insurance everyone will have to have it
You vill have healthcare.
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Got some chuckles, I don't think he intended to make a funny (when he said there are some details to iron out)
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Now those that read the Bill are liars.................
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No illegals covered.........yet he just said anyone getting care at the emergency room have to have insurance
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OMG...this is a disaster..... :ha:
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He's an expert on patient dumping.... wasn't Michelle involved with that in Chitown?
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Reaction from the primitives:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6503843
madokie (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:32 PM
Original message
I'm feeling sick
I don't like the sound of this mr President.
d_b (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:33 PM
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2. pick your poison
better than nothing though, eh?
seafan (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:33 PM
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3. Same here.
Howler (388 posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM
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4. No public option........
Exchange in four years??????
Warpy (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM
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5. TAX CREDITS?
Spare me.
Fading Captain (589 posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM
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6. LOL -- Obama talks like CATO institute
jesus ..
Sorry Obama, you WON'T be the last president to take up this issue.
madokie (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:35 PM
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9. no shit
ixion (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:34 PM
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8. me, too
demmiblue (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:36 PM
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10. Required
sandnsea (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:36 PM
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11. This was Hillary's plan too
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No illegals covered.........yet he just said anyone getting care at the emergency room have to have insurance
That's just a detail that needs ironing out.
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States given the right to run insurance by the feds.............now they want to meddle................there it was Public option
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Won't be long before we're all on it.
Heh. Self-sufficient public option :whatever:
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 08:36 PM
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11. This was Hillary's plan too cluster**** first
Fixed for the DUmbass.
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Calling GOP liars again..............yet didn't the White House tell them to **** off in May
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Why can't the private sector address that need?
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Well this will ever pass..............not one dime to the deficit now or the future
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Bush's fault. :whatever:
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH LFT IT FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
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Why can't the private sector address that need?
Because that solution doesn't give rise to the United Socialist States of Amerika.
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There's going to be some busy people rewriting the bill
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Or just kill the seniors and save money!
kidding, I'm kidding.
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And on Tort reform..............................we have.......................a big fat NOOOOOOOOOO!
Get some ideas on procedures to look at maybe.......get your bone you bunch of fear mongering liars
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Here's the DO IT FOR TED
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Hee.
Ted Kennedy raising a moral argument?
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What "drove" Ted Kennedy?
The jokes write themselves.
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TOTUS is on his game now
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Not going to fear the future?????????????
You said that nothing will go into effect except the Public Option for four damn years
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Anyone have a synopsis handy? I scheduled a fantasy football draft during the speech. :evillaugh:
Plus, I put U.S. Open tennis on in the background. I figured the big 0 would somehow screw up my team if I had him on TV.
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Anyone have a synopsis handy?
It goes something like this:
Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it. Blah blah blah, lie lie lie. Bush did it.
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Ok, I've had enought, let's talk dirty to one another.
I am JUST kidding! :lmao:
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Anyone have a synopsis handy? I scheduled a fantasy football draft during the speech. :evillaugh:
Plus, I put U.S. Open tennis on in the background. I figured the big 0 would somehow screw up my team if I had him on TV.
He pretty much bombed, that's my synopsis.
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Ok, I've had enought, let's talk dirty to one another.
I am JUST kidding! :lmao:
Damn...getting all our hopes up again.
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Damn...getting all our hopes up again.
:evillaugh:
It's definitely a night for angry sex if you are into that kind of thing. :uhsure:
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Ok, I've had enought, let's talk dirty to one another.
I am JUST kidding! :lmao:
You rang :hyper:
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:evillaugh:
It's definitely a night for angry sex if you are into that kind of thing. :uhsure:
I have the whips oiled up and the chains all polished.
:evillaugh:
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:evillaugh:
It's definitely a night for angry sex if you are into that kind of thing. :uhsure:
:naughty:
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Anyone have a synopsis handy? I scheduled a fantasy football draft during the speech. :evillaugh:
Plus, I put U.S. Open tennis on in the background. I figured the big 0 would somehow screw up my team if I had him on TV.
He bombed...........then blamed Boosh ....the bombed..............then envoked Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy............then bombed.............then somehow sounded like a President............. “Our self reliance. Our rugged individualism, our fierce defense of freedom and our healthy skepticism of government.â€
I knew TOTUS would throw a curve
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:evillaugh:
It's definitely a night for angry sex if you are into that kind of thing. :uhsure:
What about passive aggressive sex? :p
I also missed most of the speech being at the football draft too, lol. Saw the last 10 minutes and the R's response. meh. nothing new there.
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You rang :hyper:
If we don't laugh, we cry.. so bend over!
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I have the whips oiled up and the chains all polished.
:evillaugh:
Rawrrrrrr!!!!! :evillaugh:
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What about passive aggressive sex? :p
I also missed most of the speech being at the football draft too, lol. Saw the last 10 minutes and the R's response. meh. nothing new there.
Oh yes, the psy-ops always make it more interesting!
You didn't miss much.
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Anyone happen to know when we became a democracy? Or an Advanced democracy? Anyone?
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If we don't laugh, we cry.. so bend over!
Well damn.................. :hyper:
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Oh yes, the psy-ops always make it more interesting!
You didn't miss much.
I missed something today but it was not the speech. SsOK. The wine makes it all better. :-)
Anyone know much about the Republican doctor who gave the response? I thought he was well above below average.
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If we don't reform health care PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!11111one!!!!!!!!
But don't listen to the scare tactics.
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What about passive aggressive sex? :p
I also missed most of the speech being at the football draft too, lol. Saw the last 10 minutes and the R's response. meh. nothing new there.
I missed most of the draft. I shoot on Wed. night. Wsup with the one?
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I can not see any democratic senator in my state of Florida voting for this....there are way too many old people who vote in this state who will hold them accountable.
Hi,
I think you better check again. I have been hammering Nelson and he has not moved one bit, voted 100% on every Obama issue so far. He voted for the stimulus package and then was stupid enough to immediately say in an interview that 90% of the people who contacted his office were opposed to it.
Look at his website, large photo of him and BO. Better start emailing him daily because he is going to do what he is told despite what the public wants.
regards,
5412
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I missed most of the draft. I shoot on Wed. night. Wsup with the one?
The CU fantasy football draft went as those things always go (mixed results winsome losesome)
The speech, what I heard of it, was broilerplate but Drudge has a funny headline. :-)
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Damn...I missed it...got busy here at the hospital...I'll read the thread to get updated...
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The CU fantasy football draft went as those things always go (mixed results winsome losesome)
The speech, what I heard of it, was broilerplate but Drudge has a funny headline. :-)
You LIE was the highlight of my night! That was Joe Wilson of SC. Did anyone else happen to catch Linsey Grahmnesty start to do a clap and then quickly did the fiddle with his jacket when he realized it was not a clappable moment.... oh yah, you back stabbing fckerface.
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Damn...I missed it...got busy here at the hospital...I'll read the thread to get updated...
Oh there were just random utterances in this thread. But, I seriously thought it was a disaster all in all and there are really no do-overs at this time. I also think he lost his loony left base.... this pleases me! He punched a few times below the belt and I came away thinking this guy is truly the most divisive man to ever occupy the office. Good Lord, Clinton had so much more finesse.
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If we don't reform health care PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!11111one!!!!!!!!
But don't listen to the scare tactics.
All people are gonna die(sooner or later)
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HA!
South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama had talked about illegal immigrants.
I highly doubt they escorted him out.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/congressman-yells-lie-obama-speech/
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Oh there were just random utterances in this thread. But, I seriously thought it was a disaster all in all and there are really no do-overs at this time. I also think he lost his loony left base.... this pleases me! He punched a few times below the belt and I came away thinking this guy is truly the most divisive man to ever occupy the office. Good Lord, Clinton had so much more finesse.
Are you trying to get this dragged into the NSFW thread??! :lmao:
On that note, Sarah Palin has responded via facebook.
On edit, fogot link...
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/audience-member-yells-liar-as-obama.html
You Lie vid plus Palin link via gateway via Hot Air via Interwebs via uhh me
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Go Sarah!! I'm really glad she stepped down. That muzzle being off is coming in handy :-)
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One thing that struck me was how he said his plan wouldn't add a single dime to the deficit...
...just 900 billion in costs...
...which will be paid for in savings...
...taken from Medicare...
...but he won't cut Medicare...
...just wasteful spending.
Um-m-m...if you could control wasteful government spending you would be pointing to Medicare as a sucess story not as a drain on the system hoping to cover the costs of a massive system expansion.
I know I tend to find sub-text in a lot of things but I hope the average American picked-up on that.
BTW - DU is pretty despondent tonight...only the true believers remain and they are fighting a losing holding action.
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I read the transcript....boring and divisive. Good job Mr. President! :loser:
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Yeah, $900 billion is less than what WE are spending in Iraq and Afghanistan. Who is this WE? The same WE that wanted us out of Iraq and Afghanistan? And we are still there? hmmmmffff.
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One thing that struck me was how he said his plan wouldn't add a single dime to the deficit...
...just 900 billion in costs...
...which will be paid for in savings...
...taken from Medicare...
...but he won't cut Medicare...
...just wasteful spending.
Um-m-m...if you could control wasteful government spending you would be pointing to Medicare as a sucess story not as a drain on the system hoping to cover the costs of a massive system expansion.
I know I tend to find sub-text in a lot of things but I hope the average American picked-up on that.
BTW - DU is pretty despondent tonight...only the true believers remain and they are fighting a losing holding action.
Oh don't worry, I did and so did a lot of people I've talked to. The double-talk and shell game is apparent.
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One thing that struck me was how he said his plan wouldn't add a single dime to the deficit...
...just 900 billion in costs...
...which will be paid for in savings...
...taken from Medicare...
...but he won't cut Medicare...
...just wasteful spending.
Um-m-m...if you could control wasteful government spending you would be pointing to Medicare as a sucess story not as a drain on the system hoping to cover the costs of a massive system expansion.
I know I tend to find sub-text in a lot of things but I hope the average American picked-up on that.
BTW - DU is pretty despondent tonight...only the true believers remain and they are fighting a losing holding action.
Yep, it seems to me that going after the wasteful spending in medicare should be done in any event and shouldn't have to wait for healthcare legislation 4 years down the road. That's also a curious point, if the healthcare crisis is such an emergency, why are we waiting until what would be Barry's second term to implement?
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I read the transcript....boring and divisive. Good job Mr. President! :loser:
He is such an arrogant and naive prig. What he needed to do is appeal to the independents and he blew it. Marginalizing decent and hard working americans will blow in his face. This should be rich entertainment for all of us. :bday:
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Yep, it seems to me that going after the wasteful spending in medicare should be done in any event and shouldn't have to wait for healthcare legislation 4 years down the road. That's also a curious point, if the healthcare crisis is such an emergency, why are we waiting until what would be Barry's second term to implement?
Amazing that all of this is being pushed back past the mid term elections and the next presidential election. It's almost like they know that this will be a failure, but they'll be able to campaign on getting it passed without the results being available.
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Amazing that all of this is being pushed back past the mid term elections and the next presidential election. It's almost like they know that this will be a failure, but they'll be able to campaign on getting it passed without the results being available.
I recently exchanged an email with a friend of mine who supports Obama and she said that after his speech last night, she was now more supportive than ever of his plan. I am hopeful on one hand that most Americans don't buy into this crap, but oy, I lose all faith when I speak to friends like her.
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I recently exchanged an email with a friend of mine who supports Obama and she said that after his speech last night, she was now more supportive than ever of his plan. I am hopeful on one hand that most Americans don't buy into this crap, but oy, I lose all faith when I speak to friends like her.
It seems there are many people like your friend. 0Bama got a boost in the polls overnight for health care reform. I'm hoping that may change as the lies from his speech are exposed.
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Anyone happen to know when we became a democracy? Or an Advanced democracy? Anyone?
Last time I checked we were still a Republic.