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Title: CNN: 5 freedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: Splashdown on September 09, 2009, 11:37:44 AM
From CNN ?!?!?!

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5 freedoms you'd lose in health care reform
If you read the fine print in the Congressional plans, you'll find that a lot of cherished aspects of the current system would disappear.

 By Shawn Tully, editor at large
July 24, 2009: 10:17 AM ET
NEW YORK (Fortune) -- In promoting his health-care agenda, President Obama has repeatedly reassured Americans that they can keep their existing health plans -- and that the benefits and access they prize will be enhanced through reform.

A close reading of the two main bills, one backed by Democrats in the House and the other issued by Sen. Edward Kennedy's Health committee, contradict the President's assurances. To be sure, it isn't easy to comb through their 2,000 pages of tortured legal language. But page by page, the bills reveal a web of restrictions, fines, and mandates that would radically change your health-care coverage.

If you prize choosing your own cardiologist or urologist under your company's Preferred Provider Organization plan (PPO), if your employer rewards your non-smoking, healthy lifestyle with reduced premiums, if you love the bargain Health Savings Account (HSA) that insures you just for the essentials, or if you simply take comfort in the freedom to spend your own money for a policy that covers the newest drugs and diagnostic tests -- you may be shocked to learn that you could lose all of those good things under the rules proposed in the two bills that herald a health-care revolution.

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LINK (http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_obama.fortune/)
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: Chris_ on September 09, 2009, 11:49:29 AM
Barry & the boys get a gander at the underside of CNN's bus for a change.  :thumbs:

Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: thundley4 on September 09, 2009, 12:32:35 PM
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Today, many states require these "standard benefits packages" -- and they're a major cause for the rise in health-care costs. Every group, from chiropractors to alcohol-abuse counselors, do lobbying to get included. Connecticut, for example, requires reimbursement for hair transplants, hearing aids, and in vitro fertilization.

The Senate bill would require coverage for prescription drugs, mental-health benefits, and substance-abuse serviceses. It also requires policies to insure "children" until the age of 26. That's just the starting list. The bills would allow the Department of Health and Human Services to add to the list of required benefits, based on recommendations from a committee of experts. Americans, therefore, wouldn't even know what's in their plans and what they're required to pay for, directly or indirectly, until after the bills become law.
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: DixieBelle on September 09, 2009, 01:12:39 PM
This is an outrage! I hope this crap doesn't pass. I'm fuming...
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: IassaFTots on September 09, 2009, 01:18:21 PM
Absolutely stupefying.  Exactly how many backwards steps are we planning to take???

Guess I better go stock up on a good supply of leeches.
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: Splashdown on September 09, 2009, 03:13:38 PM
Absolutely stupefying.  Exactly how many backwards steps are we planning to take???

Guess I better go stock up on a good supply of leeches.

Yeah. Sorry. We're going to have to start rationing leeches.
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: IassaFTots on September 09, 2009, 03:21:47 PM
Yeah. Sorry. We're going to have to start rationing leeches.

Well then, I guess I better start growing and harvesting my own black market leeches.  Then, I can make a living as well.....seeing as Benefits Administrators won't be needed, I better begin a diversification process.   :banghead:
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: vesta111 on September 09, 2009, 03:57:36 PM


So when does a child stop being a child.  At age 26 this child may have 5 kids and you are still responsible for their health care ????
Title: Re: CNN: 5 freedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: MrsSmith on September 09, 2009, 06:35:30 PM
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Under the proposals, the gatekeepers would theoretically guide patients to tests and treatments that have proved most cost-effective. The danger is that doctors will be financially rewarded for denying care, as were HMO physicians more than a decade ago.

You don't even need the death panels that will decide which treatments are "financially sound." 
Title: Re: CNN: 5 feedoms you'll lose under gov't health plan
Post by: EastFacingNorth on September 10, 2009, 01:37:54 AM
So when does a child stop being a child.  At age 26 this child may have 5 kids and you are still responsible for their health care ????

Seriously.  I've put myself through college, I've gotten married, I'm working approx. 70 hours any given week, I'm supporting myself and my wife and putting away money for the kids we want to have within the next few years - and yet, according to the government, I'm still a f**cking child.

Just, damn.