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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MrsSmith on September 09, 2009, 08:01:16 AM
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Lorax7844 (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 03:39 AM (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6497101)
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Hello, Bush tax cuts EXPIRE in 2010, why isn't anyone telling us about how that can pay for HC!?
Since I'm not getting any comments on my other thread I am going to spam, don't worry mods just these two threads. But seriously, Bush Tax Cuts stole over 2 trillion from the treasury, healthcare will cost a trillion. 2 trillion - 1 trillion = 1 trillion added to the treasury.
Why the hell is no one in congress talking about this? Why the hell are we not talking about this? We know why the media isn't talking about this but still, I found a new drum and I'm beating it.
And "we" can just blame the tax increase on ChimpyMcBusHitler!! Yeah, that'll work!!!!!11!!1!1 [/DUmpMode] :whatever:
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 05:02 AM
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1. and that 1 trillion will come from the top 1% alone. win-win.
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FLDCVADem (377 posts) Wed Sep-09-09 06:58 AM
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7. I think you need to look at those numbers again
Even if the President sticks with his promise to only raise the top two marginal brackets, those brackets are not just the top 1%.
OOPS!! Did the DUmp just admit that the Bush tax cuts were not "only for the rich?" :lmao:
TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 05:11 AM
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2. I will say that the same borrowed money seems to get earmarked for everything
I 100,000% agree that we need to allocate those resources but we can't say that the money can pay for health care, green conversion, educational recommitment, and everything else ever and it would be cool to reassess spending so that trillion can be raised without being borrowed.
Still, no doubt that stupid tax cuts and two wars are very expensive and we have pressing needs that can't even be discussed with so much on the front burners. If we are going to keep increasing our debt then it should be invested into the country and the people.
Yeah, because people need their federal handouts so much more than we need to protect the country!! :loser:
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Why the hell are we not talking about this?
Because even if it provided this fictional $2 billion per year that Chimpy McBushHitler "stole" from the economy, it won't even be a drop in the bucket to pay for Hopey-McChangy Pony-Care.
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I really love this one:
Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 05:35 AM
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4. Thanks for this thread...
Obama has not emphasized this point strongly enough.
He's not proposing raising taxes on the wealthy -- he's saying that their taxes will naturally return to pre-Bush levels.
Bush failed (as hard as he tried) to make the tax cuts permanent.
Elections have consequences.
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Lorax7844 (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-09-09 03:39 AM
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But seriously, Bush Tax Cuts stole over 2 trillion from the treasury, healthcare will cost a trillion. 2 trillion - 1 trillion = 1 trillion added to the treasury.
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Someone needs to explain to this DUmbass that a tax cut to one's wages isn't stealing a f'n thing. Do these idiots think the government owns all wealth and doles it out as it sees fit? :whatever:
Hey DUmbass, do away with the government, most of us still survive. Do away with the job producers and wage earners, we're all back to sticks and stones.
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Do these idiots think the government owns all wealth and doles it out as it sees fit?
Yes.
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Do these dipshits also realize that taxes will increase for EVERYONE (not just the rich) come 2011?
And why isn't the RNC screaming this from the rooftops next to Zerobama's claim there won't be a tax increase?
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What kind of deranged lunatic moron considers a tax cut THEFT? Does anyone need to read any further?
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If we are going to keep increasing our debt then it should be invested into the country and the people.
The stupid of this level has to be painful. Can anyone really be this dumb??
Yo DUmmies, go borrow a million dollars and "invest it" in your family and see what happens when the bill comes due.
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What kind of deranged lunatic moron considers a tax cut THEFT? Does anyone need to read any further?
Property is theft, comrade FGL. I fear you are falling into revanchist thought patterns typical of a running dog reactionary.
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What kind of deranged lunatic moron considers a tax cut THEFT? Does anyone need to read any further?
The kind of moron that thinks the answer to everything is ALWAYS the Federal Government.
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The biggest F@#*ing lie is that tax cuts took money from the treasury. Tax revenues increased due to Bush's tax cuts, just the Federal Government spent it all and more. Repubs and Dems are equally to blame. Two wars are expensive, but appeasement is even more expensive.
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The biggest F@#*ing lie is that tax cuts took money from the treasury. Tax revenues increased due to Bush's tax cuts, just the Federal Government spent it all and more. Repubs and Dems are equally to blame. Two wars are expensive, but appeasement is even more expensive.
We might have troops in 2 countries but we ARE appeasing them here at home.
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What kind of deranged lunatic moron considers a tax cut THEFT? Does anyone need to read any further?
Everyone at DU
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When these asshats can explain why revenue was up under the tax cuts as opposed to lowering it when they expire, I might think they are the least bit relevant
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When these asshats can explain why revenue was up under the tax cuts as opposed to lowering it when they expire, I might think they are the least bit relevant
The DUmmies see that the deficit increased under President Bush, therefore the total taxes to the government must have decreased. In their happy little world, they don't recognize that spending caused the deficits. Except of course when they want to blame military spending for robbing them of health care.
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Someone needs to explain to this DUmbass that a tax cut to one's wages isn't stealing a f'n thing. Do these idiots think the government owns all wealth and doles it out as it sees fit? :whatever:
Hey DUmbass, do away with the government, most of us still survive. Do away with the job producers and wage earners, we're all back to sticks and stones.
The DUmmies think if we go out and make a dollar that we are stealing that dollar from the poor people unless we give 70 to 80 cents of that dollar back. Ouch that sentence made my head hurt but, they actually believe it.
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The DUmmies think if we go out and make a dollar that we are stealing that dollar from the poor people unless we give 70 to 80 cents of that dollar back. Ouch that sentence made my head hurt but, they actually believe it.
And the Dems think November 2nd, 2010 is going to be bad . . . they let the Bush tax cuts expire, and November 6th, 2012 will end the Democratic Party in the US for 30 years or so.
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HOLY SHIT! Someone inform the CBO about this, they totally forgot to include this in their calculations of the 10 year deficit!!!111!!!
DUmmies, stop breathing some methane for a bit and pull your heads outta your asses. That money from the tax cuts has already been spent. ::)