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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on September 05, 2009, 02:12:03 PM
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skier_ (39 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Sep-05-09 01:39 AM
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How do you deal with very Republican family?
Three of my aunts are married to really wealthy men. There for they don't want their taxes to go up, they really seem like they don't care about the well being of others
My father is a nurse and works nights. Holidays are usually me and them, I end up in tears because their husbands are so rude about the president. One of them even owns a company that makes the plastic lining for soldiers backpacks, obviously he supports the war.
I hope this post doesn't come across like I'm trolling. Reason being, my grandpa is passing away so I see them a lot. My mom is not involved with that side of my family at all, and it is hard to even face most of my cousins.
I'm not sure where else to post this? It makes me really sad to be related to people like this, and I was wondering if other people could share their stories?
Oh, and I do not bring up politics with them, I'm a 19 year old girl I don't want to argue with 50 year old men.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6469735
On noes they are being rude about the president. God knows for 8 years they were so kind to Bush. :whatever:
paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Sep-05-09 01:48 AM
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6. i LIKE having a diversity of opinions and politics in my family
it's a GOOD thing.
we've had some great arguments! :)
good discussions
we agree on some stuff. disagree on others.
one of my best friends, i disagree on almost EVERYTHING politically, but we get along great.
content of character, not politics. that's how people should be judged
This guy wont last long at the DUmp.
CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Sep-05-09 01:47 AM
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3. My dear skier_
I am so sorry to hear your sad story...
Are there any other relatives or friends you can spend the holidays with? Maybe even spending them alone might be better...
Or you could volunteer at one of the homeless shelters and help hand out Thanksgiving dinner or something like that...
There has to be some other place for you to feel more welcome!
:hug:
:whatever:
lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Sep-05-09 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #36
42. Good one Vodid
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 02:35 PM by lyonn
Those making $250,000 plus have an excuse for being repub but those that make less are lying to themselves. What's the expression, cutting off the nose to spite the face. But mostly I think religion and refusing to realize they are just ordinary people, like the rest of us.
Goofy story:Bouncy alert!!!1 My friend once told me about having her nails done and the oriental lady doing her nails got pissed at her for making the comment that she was a democrat. My friend had this huge, about 3+ caret diamond ring, on and this manicure person got down right hateful with her, slammed her hand down, and made some offensive remark to my friend. Well, my friend said she didn't have enough money to be a repub...... needless to say she never went back to this manicurist.
Edit: clarity I hope
I'm checking my bank account. Oops I better go re register as a dem right away. Thanks for showing me the error of my ways. :whatever:
I am shocked no one has called her on the oriental lady yet. :-) Oriental is used to describe objects not people. :-)
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DUmmies encouraging others to be as miserable as themselves.
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DUmmies encouraging others to be as miserable as themselves.
Remember, they're not happy unless they're not happy.
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Remember, they're not happy unless they're/you're not happy.
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But mostly I think religion and refusing to realize they are just ordinary people, like the rest of us.
We should all be thankful that this is a lie. Ordinary people are not at all like the DUmpmonkeys.
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JR, I sit corrected. What I meant to type was:
They're not happy unless they're not happy--and forcibly spreading their unhappiness to you.
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Those making $250,000 plus have an excuse for being repub but those that make less are lying to themselves. What's the expression, cutting off the nose to spite the face. But mostly I think religion and refusing to realize they are just ordinary people, like the rest of us.
They just don't get it.
I'm not rich financially. I probably never will be. I don't even know anyone who's rich except possibly the doctors I work with or by whom I'm occasionally treated. Especially at my age, I'm not willing to do the things it would take to become "rich" - the long hours, the risk, the sacrifice, the time away from family. For those who are, I'm not envious. My hat's off to them. I wish them continued prosperity.
I'm comfortable financially and the Lord has blessed me with good health. That's fine with me. I don't want money from someone else merely because they have more than I. The very idea is repugnant to me. I don't mind some of my taxes going to help the truly helpless, i.e. children, the elderly, the disabled and those struck by catastrophe beyond their control. I wish private charity could do it all. But this not being a perfect world, I accept a government safety net for those whom charity misses, as long as it's limited, tightly controlled and efficient, with state and local programs being predominant as opposed to centralized federal agencies. The more accountability, the better. They should be run by common sense conservatives, not liberals who see it as just another way of buying votes.
I'm against confiscatory taxes on the wealthy for the simple reason that I think all citizens should be treated fairly. If the rich have played by the rules and followed the law there is no reason for them to be penalized for their efforts by the government. They create jobs and add to the engine that drives a good market economy. They are citizens who should enjoy the same freedoms as everyone else. There is no long term upside for our society in seizing their wealth and redistributing it. We've seen the results of that in dozens of crap socialist countries. All it accomplishes is to bring everyone down to the same level of mediocrity and discontent.
Further, taxes perpetuate big, intrusive government. The more taxes they get, the more the bureaucracy grows. The more the bureaucracy grows, they more taxes they want. It's a vicious cycle. How many government programs, once established, ever get abolished or reined in once they've outlived their ostensible usefulness? Very few That I can recall. They just keep growing like weeds, sucking all the nutrients from the rest of society. It's antithetical to the cause of freedom and self-determination. It's just that simple.
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They just don't get it.
I'm not rich financially. I probably never will be. I don't even know anyone who's rich except possibly the doctors I work with or by whom I'm occasionally treated. Especially at my age, I'm not willing to do the things it would take to become "rich" - the long hours, the risk, the sacrifice, the time away from family. For those who are, I'm not envious. My hat's off to them. I wish them continued prosperity.
I'm comfortable financially and the Lord has blessed me with good health. That's fine with me. I don't want money from someone else merely because they have more than I. The very idea is repugnant to me. I don't mind some of my taxes going to help the truly helpless, i.e. children, the elderly, the disabled and those struck by catastrophe beyond their control. I wish private charity could do it all. But this not being a perfect world, I accept a government safety net for those whom charity misses, as long as it's limited, tightly controlled and efficient, with state and local programs being predominant as opposed to centralized federal agencies. The more accountability, the better. They should be run by common sense conservatives, not liberals who see it as just another way of buying votes.
I'm against confiscatory taxes on the wealthy for the simple reason that I think all citizens should be treated fairly. If the rich have played by the rules and followed the law there is no reason for them to be penalized for their efforts by the government. They create jobs and add to the engine that drives a good market economy. They are citizens who should enjoy the same freedoms as everyone else. There is no long term upside for our society in seizing their wealth and redistributing it. We've seen the results of that in dozens of crap socialist countries. All it accomplishes is to bring everyone down to the same level of mediocrity and discontent.
Further, taxes perpetuate big, intrusive government. The more taxes they get, the more the bureaucracy grows. The more the bureaucracy grows, they more taxes they want. It's a vicious cycle. How many government programs, once established, ever get abolished or reined in once they've outlived their ostensible usefulness? Very few That I can recall. They just keep growing like weeds, sucking all the nutrients from the rest of society. It's antithetical to the cause of freedom and self-determination. It's just that simple.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
I will add that maybe it was Thomas Jefferson that said, "A government big enough to give you all you need is also big enough to take all you have."
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How do you deal with a very Republican family? Personally, I'd just relax and be glad I'm in the midst of a happy group. :lmao:
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skier_ has to be a Freeper Troll. No one else could make up
such a hilarious question with all the trimmings. :-)
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Why would a poor person like me want to be a Democrat? Why would I support people who want to punish prosperity? Where would I get a job once the businesses are run off due to taxes and regulation? How would I ever hope to have a better life if I voted for people who want to make a better life impossible for anyone except politicians and their wealthy friends like George Soros and William Buffet and Peter Lewis?
Why would I vote to support politicians who do not believe in freedom? Any freedom? Who cannot be trusted to tell the truth at any time whatsoever?
Why would I ever want to be as miderable and self-loathing as a DUmmie??
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Speaking of not getting it Dandi, I was watching fox earlier and they were talking about a town hall event where the Dem that was having the town hall replied to this man's question about how they were going to pay for all of this. The Dem said "I don't know".
Well apparently this same dem was watching fox when they aired his "I don't know" comment and he called and wanted to clairify. He said he did know how they were going to pay for "healthcare", by the savings it was going to produce (ha) and taxing the "rich". Then he made a comment that it didn't look like there were any of the "rich" at the town hall meeting so he doesn't see why they should have a problem with it. Seriously, they don't get it at all.
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Why would a poor person like me want to be a Democrat? Why would I support people who want to punish prosperity? Where would I get a job once the businesses are run off due to taxes and regulation? How would I ever hope to have a better life if I voted for people who want to make a better life impossible for anyone except politicians and their wealthy friends like George Soros and William Buffet and Peter Lewis?
Why would I vote to support politicians who do not believe in freedom? Any freedom? Who cannot be trusted to tell the truth at any time whatsoever?
Why would I ever want to be as miderable and self-loathing as a DUmmie??
That's the best thing I've seen you write on CC. You're good. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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My parents and I have very very different political views. It doesn't stop us from having a good time as a family though.
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This topic comes up every few weeks on the Island. Had the OP been a 1000+ poster it would have hundreds of recommendations.
The responses go a long way in revealing the cult-like mindset of Liberals. They would rather totally dismiss their own blood rather than try to compromise, in an adult manner, on issues of disagreement.
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My parents and I have very very different political views. It doesn't stop us from having a good time as a family though.
But you have to understand...EVERYTHING in the DUmmies life revolves around...and is ingrained...in politics.
Whether it's the brand of toothpaste they buy or the stores they shop at...it'all involves politics.
There's no way a hard core member of DU could ever get along with family members who don't agree with them 100% on politics.
And as it always seems to be...this DUmmie is the blacksheep of the family. The one that the other family members roll their eyes at when she launches into a political tirade because there isn't any 7th Generation toilet paper in the house or that the groceries were bought at Wal-Mart instead of Target or CosCo.