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Title: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 09:59:59 AM
McCain Disavows Comments About Obama

AP/Google News
2/26/2008
By LIZ SIDOTI – 21 hours ago

CINCINNATI (AP) — Republican John McCain quickly denounced the comments of a radio talk show host who while warming up a campaign crowd referred repeatedly to Barack Hussein Obama and called the Democrat a "hack, Chicago-style" politician.

Hussein is Obama's middle name, but talk show host Bill Cunningham used it three times as he addressed the crowd before the likely Republican nominee's appearance.

"Now we have a hack, Chicago-style Daley politician who is picturing himself as change. When he gets done with you, all you're going to have in your pocket is change," Cunningham said as the audience roared.

The time will come, Cunningham added, when the media will "peel the bark off Barack Hussein Obama" and tell the truth about his relationship with indicted fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko and how Obama got "sweetheart deals" in Chicago.

McCain wasn't on stage nor in the building when Cunningham made the comments, but he quickly distanced himself from them and the talk show host after finishing his speech. McCain spoke to a couple hundred people at Memorial Hall in downtown Cincinnati.

"I apologize for it," McCain told reporters, addressing the issue before they had a chance to ask the Arizona senator about Cunningham's comments.

"I did not know about these remarks but I take responsibility for them. I repudiate them," he said. "My entire campaign I have treated Senator Obama and Senator (Hillary Rodham) Clinton with respect. I will continue to do that throughout this campaign.

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Good lord...
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 10:38:25 AM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: DixieBelle on February 27, 2008, 10:52:28 AM
I hope he comes out with both barrels blazing once the nominees are declared. Ugh. It's going to be a long year.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: djones520 on February 27, 2008, 10:55:52 AM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

Come on.  What is the first thing anyone in this country thinks of when they hear Hussein?  The mass murderer we went to war to dispose.  If someone is going to keep referencing that, it's gonna keep invoking Saddams image.  As some of you where arguing yesterday about Obama wearing the tribal clothing, perception is everything.

McCain is trying to distance himself from the dirty fight right now.  Thats Hillary's game at the moment, and the more it's kept on her, the bigger the fight in the democractic party is, and the less work he has to do.  By keeping the clean image, it gives him a lot of credibility.  He's going to need all the positive PR he can get against the golden boy, and this is just building the chips in his favor when he and Obama have to throw down against each other in a couple months.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 10:55:58 AM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

You can talk about it all you want but seriously, do you want McCain to go there?  It would be a distraction instead of focusing on his voting record or the things he has said.  It is kind of petty.  There are a ton of things to slam Obama with and again I say, his middle name (which he didn't choose) isn't one of them.  

Oh and how is that slobbering over Obama?
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 10:57:46 AM
I hope he comes out with both barrels blazing once the nominees are declared. Ugh. It's going to be a long year.

The way it looks, I wouldn't expect much from McLame. Bill Cunningham is a very popular conservative radio host in  Ohio, the campaign booked him to speak before McLame came out to bolster Ohio conservatives... but look who McLame turns on... he called Obama and Hillary "honorable Americans" and distanced himself from Cunningham and his comments like he's still going to be the media's darling. Sorry Mclame... the new media darling is Obama, and regardless of how nicey nice you are to the Dems, the media (and the Dims) are still going to eat you for lunch.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 11:07:12 AM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

You can talk about it all you want but seriously, do you want McCain to go there?  It would be a distraction instead of focusing on his voting record or the things he has said.  It is kind of petty.  There are a ton of things to slam Obama with and again I say, his middle name (which he didn't choose) isn't one of them. 

Oh and how is that slobbering over Obama?



I pretty much posted my sentiment in the above post. McLame is not the media's favorite anymore (as much as he may want that to be so), but if McLame doesn't grow some balls, and go after Obama with both barrels. No it doesn't have to be mean, necessarily... but McCain is acting like such a big fat wet ***** right now.

Cunningham made a remark about Obama's middle name. Why would that be McCain's fault though? If it's anybody's fault, it's Obama's parents for giving him that name. Besides that, Cunningham was right about Obama being part of the Chicago-Daley Democrat machine, and his land deal with Resko is shady at best. Cunningham was just pointing out the truth, yet he's repudiated by the "Maverick" Arizona Senator.

I tell ya though, not too many more radio talk show hosts are going to come out and speak to the crowd at McCain rallies anymore.

Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 11:36:52 AM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

You can talk about it all you want but seriously, do you want McCain to go there?  It would be a distraction instead of focusing on his voting record or the things he has said.  It is kind of petty.  There are a ton of things to slam Obama with and again I say, his middle name (which he didn't choose) isn't one of them. 

Oh and how is that slobbering over Obama?



I pretty much posted my sentiment in the above post. McLame is not the media's favorite anymore (as much as he may want that to be so), but if McLame doesn't grow some balls, and go after Obama with both barrels. No it doesn't have to be mean, necessarily... but McCain is acting like such a big fat wet ***** right now.

Cunningham made a remark about Obama's middle name. Why would that be McCain's fault though? If it's anybody's fault, it's Obama's parents for giving him that name. Besides that, Cunningham was right about Obama being part of the Chicago-Daley Democrat machine, and his land deal with Resko is shady at best. Cunningham was just pointing out the truth, yet he's repudiated by the "Maverick" Arizona Senator.

I tell ya though, not too many more radio talk show hosts are going to come out and speak to the crowd at McCain rallies anymore.



The media will blame McCain because it was at his function that it was said.  Doesn't matter if it is warranted or not, they will blame him.  The Chicago Democrat machine and Rescko comments are good slams, the Hussein comment screwed it up.  That is what I'm talking about when I said it was a distraction.  Everyone is having a shit fit about the Hussein comment and totally ignoring the meat of Cunningham's comments.  That is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: DixieBelle on February 27, 2008, 12:25:33 PM
McCain may be a bastard, but he's our bastard now.

I agree, let's let Hillary sling mud at Obama and go down clawing. It will only undo her campaign even further and keep McCain a bit cleaner until the real fight begins.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 27, 2008, 12:30:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain steps down in the GE to let his good friend Obama run unopposed.  The media would love him for it and if there is one thing McCain loves, it is being loved by the media.

Possibly this is sarcasm. After hearing Cunningham's rather innocuous warm up and McCain's overreaction to it.  I'm not sure anymore.  It doesn't seem like McCain actually wants to win to me.  It doesn't seem the the RNC wants to win either.  Or a win means "not taking a hit in the media" to the respective entities.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 03:06:44 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain steps down in the GE to let his good friend Obama run unopposed.  The media would love him for it and if there is one thing McCain loves, it is being loved by the media.

Possibly this is sarcasm. After hearing Cunningham's rather innocuous warm up and McCain's overreaction to it.  I'm not sure anymore.  It doesn't seem like McCain actually wants to win to me.  It doesn't seem the the RNC wants to win either.  Or a win means "not taking a hit in the media" to the respective entities.

I'm dumbfounded by these types of comments.  How in the hell is McCain going to win by using Obama's middle name as a pejorative?  Seriously, how would using his middle name as a negative help ? 

Like I said before, slam him for things he can control....like his voting record.  Not what his parents gave him for a middle name.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 03:07:36 PM
McCain may be a bastard, but he's our bastard now.
I agree, let's let Hillary sling mud at Obama and go down clawing. It will only undo her campaign even further and keep McCain a bit cleaner until the real fight begins.

That would be a great bumper sticker.   :p
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Tess Anderson on February 27, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
Juan ------ the MSM really DOESN'T like you.

He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.

MediaMatters is all bent out of shape about Cunningham's comment as well. Many people don't know that Obama WILLINGLY changed his name to that, it's not a case of someone born with an inappropriate name. Fair game.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 03:44:54 PM
Juan ------ the MSM really DOESN'T like you.

He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.

MediaMatters is all bent out of shape about Cunningham's comment as well. Many people don't know that Obama WILLINGLY changed his name to that, it's not a case of someone born with an inappropriate name. Fair game.

I have never heard he WILLINGLY changed his name to that.  Can you post a link?
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Chris_ on February 27, 2008, 04:22:51 PM
Billy Cunningham replaced Matt Drudge after Drudge stopped doing his radio show.  I don't really care for him... he's not very engaging or interesting to listen to.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 27, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain steps down in the GE to let his good friend Obama run unopposed.  The media would love him for it and if there is one thing McCain loves, it is being loved by the media.

Possibly this is sarcasm. After hearing Cunningham's rather innocuous warm up and McCain's overreaction to it.  I'm not sure anymore.  It doesn't seem like McCain actually wants to win to me.  It doesn't seem the the RNC wants to win either.  Or a win means "not taking a hit in the media" to the respective entities.

I'm dumbfounded by these types of comments.  How in the hell is McCain going to win by using Obama's middle name as a pejorative?  Seriously, how would using his middle name as a negative help ? 

Like I said before, slam him for things he can control....like his voting record.  Not what his parents gave him for a middle name.
How does using his middle name hurt? How does defining Obama as a liberal hurt?

Obama is a liberal.  Obama's middle name is Hussein.  What's wrong with saying either?

We say "Hillary Rodham Clinton" so why can't we say Barrockstar Hussein Obama?  I didn't hear anything negative in what that Cunningham fellow said in saying Hussein.

I think being called a Chicago Daley hack is the negative part.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: VelvetElvis on February 27, 2008, 08:58:28 PM
I agree with BEG, there's plenty of legitimate issues to slam the Messiah with.  Focusing on the "Hussein" bit just plays into the Dems meme about "bigoted, racist Rethugs".

I listened to the furor over this all day long on the local and national talk shows in utter bewilderment.  Get a grip, folks! This isn't some high school class president race, this is for the leadership of the freaking free world!  I expect our guy to act like an adult, and not some numbnuts frat boy.  Leave that to the donkeys, and let the people see who's really serious about it!

Obama's record, or lack thereof, is a fat pinata waiting for a baseball bat.  Let's pin him down on specifics, and he'll fold up like a lawn chair.

McCain was hardly who I wanted to see as our nominee, but I'll take him over either the Glacier or the Messiah in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 27, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
I agree with BEG, there's plenty of legitimate issues to slam the Messiah with.  Focusing on the "Hussein" bit just plays into the Dems meme about "bigoted, racist Rethugs".

I listened to the furor over this all day long on the local and national talk shows in utter bewilderment.  Get a grip, folks! This isn't some high school class president race, this is for the leadership of the freaking free world!  I expect our guy to act like an adult, and not some numbnuts frat boy.  Leave that to the donkeys, and let the people see who's really serious about it!

Obama's record, or lack thereof, is a fat pinata waiting for a baseball bat.  Let's pin him down on specifics, and he'll fold up like a lawn chair.

McCain was hardly who I wanted to see as our nominee, but I'll take him over either the Glacier or the Messiah in a heartbeat.
What if we just call him The Candidate with No Middle Name?  And we can refer to McLame as "The Media's Candidate."  We'll always know what McLame's policy will be because it will be in the NY Times a day before McLame proposes it.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: BEG on February 27, 2008, 09:39:22 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain steps down in the GE to let his good friend Obama run unopposed.  The media would love him for it and if there is one thing McCain loves, it is being loved by the media.

Possibly this is sarcasm. After hearing Cunningham's rather innocuous warm up and McCain's overreaction to it.  I'm not sure anymore.  It doesn't seem like McCain actually wants to win to me.  It doesn't seem the the RNC wants to win either.  Or a win means "not taking a hit in the media" to the respective entities.

I'm dumbfounded by these types of comments.  How in the hell is McCain going to win by using Obama's middle name as a pejorative?  Seriously, how would using his middle name as a negative help ? 

Like I said before, slam him for things he can control....like his voting record.  Not what his parents gave him for a middle name.
How does using his middle name hurt? How does defining Obama as a liberal hurt?

Obama is a liberal.  Obama's middle name is Hussein.  What's wrong with saying either?

We say "Hillary Rodham Clinton" so why can't we say Barrockstar Hussein Obama?  I didn't hear anything negative in what that Cunningham fellow said in saying Hussein.

I think being called a Chicago Daley hack is the negative part.

How does using his middle name hurt?!?  Read Velvet Elvis's comments.  It makes us look very small and juvenile. 

Defining Obama as a liberal, Chicago Daley hack, his crazy anti-Semitic preacher/friend or talking about his voting record (or lack there of) is fair game.  Again I will reiterate what I have been saying all along, using his middle name as a negative isn't a smooth move.  When people use it they aren't simply saying his middle name, there is meaning behind it.  If you are trying to say that using Hillary's middle name Rodham has the same connotation as Hussein you are not being intellectually honest.  It is trying to score "gotcha" points and it should be above a presidential hopeful in my opinion.



Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 27, 2008, 09:55:44 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain steps down in the GE to let his good friend Obama run unopposed.  The media would love him for it and if there is one thing McCain loves, it is being loved by the media.

Possibly this is sarcasm. After hearing Cunningham's rather innocuous warm up and McCain's overreaction to it.  I'm not sure anymore.  It doesn't seem like McCain actually wants to win to me.  It doesn't seem the the RNC wants to win either.  Or a win means "not taking a hit in the media" to the respective entities.

I'm dumbfounded by these types of comments.  How in the hell is McCain going to win by using Obama's middle name as a pejorative?  Seriously, how would using his middle name as a negative help ? 

Like I said before, slam him for things he can control....like his voting record.  Not what his parents gave him for a middle name.
How does using his middle name hurt? How does defining Obama as a liberal hurt?

Obama is a liberal.  Obama's middle name is Hussein.  What's wrong with saying either?

We say "Hillary Rodham Clinton" so why can't we say Barrockstar Hussein Obama?  I didn't hear anything negative in what that Cunningham fellow said in saying Hussein.

I think being called a Chicago Daley hack is the negative part.

How does using his middle name hurt?!?  Read Velvet Elvis's comments.  It makes us look very small and juvenile. 

Defining Obama as a liberal, Chicago Daley hack, his crazy anti-Semitic preacher/friend or talking about his voting record (or lack there of) is fair game.  Again I will reiterate what I have been saying all along, using his middle name as a negative isn't a smooth move.  When people use it they aren't simply saying his middle name, there is meaning behind it.  If you are trying to say that using Hillary's middle name Rodham has the same connotation as Hussein you are not being intellectually honest.  It is trying to score "gotcha" points and it should be above a presidential hopeful in my opinion.




And as I said before, from what I heard of Cunningham's rant, he didn't use The Candidate with No Middle Name's middle name as a pejorative.  It was The Media's Candidate and his buddies in the media who did that after the fact.

If we let the media define us as racists for saying The Candidate with No Middle Name's middle name then they will just let us define us as racist for questioning his record.

I don't intend to let the media dictate the words I can use.  I don't allow the media to define me.

From what I understand the cowards in the RNC doesn't even want to point out the Candidate with No Middle Name is a liberal. 

That'll be a winning strategery.

I'm assuming it's because The Media's Candidate has a liberal record too.  But still, I don't recall anyone ever winning an election by cowering.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 27, 2008, 10:03:35 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.

agreed. Let our side take the high road for a while and let Hilary and Obama make idiots out of themselves.

at some point, the country will want a grown up to be in charge again after those two flame out.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 10:03:59 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if McCain steps down in the GE to let his good friend Obama run unopposed.  The media would love him for it and if there is one thing McCain loves, it is being loved by the media.

Possibly this is sarcasm. After hearing Cunningham's rather innocuous warm up and McCain's overreaction to it.  I'm not sure anymore.  It doesn't seem like McCain actually wants to win to me.  It doesn't seem the the RNC wants to win either.  Or a win means "not taking a hit in the media" to the respective entities.

I'm dumbfounded by these types of comments.  How in the hell is McCain going to win by using Obama's middle name as a pejorative?  Seriously, how would using his middle name as a negative help ? 

Like I said before, slam him for things he can control....like his voting record.  Not what his parents gave him for a middle name.
How does using his middle name hurt? How does defining Obama as a liberal hurt?

Obama is a liberal.  Obama's middle name is Hussein.  What's wrong with saying either?

We say "Hillary Rodham Clinton" so why can't we say Barrockstar Hussein Obama?  I didn't hear anything negative in what that Cunningham fellow said in saying Hussein.

I think being called a Chicago Daley hack is the negative part.

How does using his middle name hurt?!?  Read Velvet Elvis's comments.  It makes us look very small and juvenile. 

Defining Obama as a liberal, Chicago Daley hack, his crazy anti-Semitic preacher/friend or talking about his voting record (or lack there of) is fair game.  Again I will reiterate what I have been saying all along, using his middle name as a negative isn't a smooth move.  When people use it they aren't simply saying his middle name, there is meaning behind it.  If you are trying to say that using Hillary's middle name Rodham has the same connotation as Hussein you are not being intellectually honest.  It is trying to score "gotcha" points and it should be above a presidential hopeful in my opinion.





Now that I think about it, it's not Obama's middle name we should be concerned about, it's his first name... Barack, which sounds a little Mortal Kombatish for me.


(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/1b/Mkg_baraka.gif)

Baraka Hussien Obama.  :lmao:


Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 27, 2008, 10:04:36 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

who said you have to slobber over the guy? just attack his ideas, that's enough.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 27, 2008, 10:07:22 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

You can talk about it all you want but seriously, do you want McCain to go there?  It would be a distraction instead of focusing on his voting record or the things he has said.  It is kind of petty.  There are a ton of things to slam Obama with and again I say, his middle name (which he didn't choose) isn't one of them. 

Oh and how is that slobbering over Obama?



I pretty much posted my sentiment in the above post. McLame is not the media's favorite anymore (as much as he may want that to be so), but if McLame doesn't grow some balls, and go after Obama with both barrels. No it doesn't have to be mean, necessarily... but McCain is acting like such a big fat wet ***** right now.

Cunningham made a remark about Obama's middle name. Why would that be McCain's fault though? If it's anybody's fault, it's Obama's parents for giving him that name. Besides that, Cunningham was right about Obama being part of the Chicago-Daley Democrat machine, and his land deal with Resko is shady at best. Cunningham was just pointing out the truth, yet he's repudiated by the "Maverick" Arizona Senator.

I tell ya though, not too many more radio talk show hosts are going to come out and speak to the crowd at McCain rallies anymore.



I dont know who this Cunningham guy is, but he sounded like that Michael Savage guy who screams and yells a lot. no thanks..
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

who said you have to slobber over the guy? just attack his ideas, that's enough.


I criticize his ideas, hell yeah. The guy is a born again 1960's antiwar socialist whackjob and he's more pro-abortion than NARAL. But there's also other stuff to attack him on like him not wearing a flag pin on his lapel, cupping his balls (if he has any) during the playing of the National Anthem, his campaign staff having a damned Che flag in the headquarters for his campaign, his affiliation with his segregationist church... etc.

The middle name isn't going to be an issue for me any more. So I won't say Barack Hussien Obama anymore. If I do have to address it, it'll be Barack Milhouse Obama (ala The Great One)  :lmao:
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 27, 2008, 10:12:28 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

who said you have to slobber over the guy? just attack his ideas, that's enough.


I criticize his ideas, hell yeah. The guy is a born again 1960's antiwar socialist whackjob and he's more pro-abortion than NARAL. But there's also other stuff to attack him on like him not wearing a flag pin on his lapel, cupping his balls (if he has any) during the playing of the National Anthem, his campaign staff having a damned Che flag in the headquarters for his campaign, his affiliation with his segregationist church... etc.

The middle name isn't going to be an issue for me any more. So I won't say Barack Hussien Obama anymore. If I do have to address it, it'll be Barack Milhouse Obama (ala The Great One)  :lmao:

well, in case you havent noticed yet Skizz, our side hasnt really had anyone on their side to attack as of yet. we dont know who their candidate is... so until that is made clear, our side isnt going to attack.

once they have a nominee, i think you're going to see a different side of McCain. although, McCain did publically chuckle when some woman asked him about 'the bitch' [meaning Hilary] at one of his campaign stops.

and he didnt apologize for that ..
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 10:19:03 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

who said you have to slobber over the guy? just attack his ideas, that's enough.


I criticize his ideas, hell yeah. The guy is a born again 1960's antiwar socialist whackjob and he's more pro-abortion than NARAL. But there's also other stuff to attack him on like him not wearing a flag pin on his lapel, cupping his balls (if he has any) during the playing of the National Anthem, his campaign staff having a damned Che flag in the headquarters for his campaign, his affiliation with his segregationist church... etc.

The middle name isn't going to be an issue for me any more. So I won't say Barack Hussien Obama anymore. If I do have to address it, it'll be Barack Milhouse Obama (ala The Great One)  :lmao:

well, in case you havent noticed yet Skizz, our side hasnt really had anyone on their side to attack as of yet. we dont know who their candidate is... so until that is made clear, our side isnt going to attack.

once they have a nominee, i think you're going to see a different side of McCain. although, McCain did publically chuckle when some woman asked him about 'the bitch' [meaning Hilary] at one of his campaign stops.

and he didnt apologize for that ..


True, Hillary still could pull a miracle (for her at least) and win in Ohio and Texas. However, if she doesn't win those two states, it's rumored she may pull out.... I doubt it, but it's just a rumor. But given the media and what they're doing, they're acting as though Barack Milhouse Obama has it in the bag. So McCain should treat the situation as such.

Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 27, 2008, 10:26:45 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

who said you have to slobber over the guy? just attack his ideas, that's enough.


I criticize his ideas, hell yeah. The guy is a born again 1960's antiwar socialist whackjob and he's more pro-abortion than NARAL. But there's also other stuff to attack him on like him not wearing a flag pin on his lapel, cupping his balls (if he has any) during the playing of the National Anthem, his campaign staff having a damned Che flag in the headquarters for his campaign, his affiliation with his segregationist church... etc.

The middle name isn't going to be an issue for me any more. So I won't say Barack Hussien Obama anymore. If I do have to address it, it'll be Barack Milhouse Obama (ala The Great One)  :lmao:

well, in case you havent noticed yet Skizz, our side hasnt really had anyone on their side to attack as of yet. we dont know who their candidate is... so until that is made clear, our side isnt going to attack.

once they have a nominee, i think you're going to see a different side of McCain. although, McCain did publically chuckle when some woman asked him about 'the bitch' [meaning Hilary] at one of his campaign stops.

and he didnt apologize for that ..


True, Hillary still could pull a miracle (for her at least) and win in Ohio and Texas. However, if she doesn't win those two states, it's rumored she may pull out.... I doubt it, but it's just a rumor. But given the media and what they're doing, they're acting as though Barack Milhouse Obama has it in the bag. So McCain should treat the situation as such.



he has been already to some degree... he is talking far less about Hilary, but keeping his distance from Obama. if he goes out there and starts presumptively talking about Obama's policies, he may look like an idiot if Hilary somehow manages to pull it out of the gutter.

although, until she officially says she's out, i'm putting nothing past her. in fact, i kind of fear for Obama's life at this point.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 27, 2008, 10:30:09 PM
He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.


So we can't talk about his middle name at all? I guess we all have to just sit there and slobber over Obama like the rest of the lemmings leading this county to its destruction.

who said you have to slobber over the guy? just attack his ideas, that's enough.


I criticize his ideas, hell yeah. The guy is a born again 1960's antiwar socialist whackjob and he's more pro-abortion than NARAL. But there's also other stuff to attack him on like him not wearing a flag pin on his lapel, cupping his balls (if he has any) during the playing of the National Anthem, his campaign staff having a damned Che flag in the headquarters for his campaign, his affiliation with his segregationist church... etc.

The middle name isn't going to be an issue for me any more. So I won't say Barack Hussien Obama anymore. If I do have to address it, it'll be Barack Milhouse Obama (ala The Great One)  :lmao:

well, in case you havent noticed yet Skizz, our side hasnt really had anyone on their side to attack as of yet. we dont know who their candidate is... so until that is made clear, our side isnt going to attack.

once they have a nominee, i think you're going to see a different side of McCain. although, McCain did publically chuckle when some woman asked him about 'the bitch' [meaning Hilary] at one of his campaign stops.

and he didnt apologize for that ..


True, Hillary still could pull a miracle (for her at least) and win in Ohio and Texas. However, if she doesn't win those two states, it's rumored she may pull out.... I doubt it, but it's just a rumor. But given the media and what they're doing, they're acting as though Barack Milhouse Obama has it in the bag. So McCain should treat the situation as such.



he has been already to some degree... he is talking far less about Hilary, but keeping his distance from Obama. if he goes out there and starts presumptively talking about Obama's policies, he may look like an idiot if Hilary somehow manages to pull it out of the gutter.

although, until she officially says she's out, i'm putting nothing past her. in fact, i kind of fear for Obama's life at this point.
Why? The Candidate with No Middle Name has, essentially, the same policies Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Essentially, the only difference between The Candidate with No Middle Name and Hillary is Hillary has a middle name we are allowed to say.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Tess Anderson on February 27, 2008, 10:32:02 PM
Another one of Juan's nicknames is McNasty.

Juan ------ the MSM really DOESN'T like you.

He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.

MediaMatters is all bent out of shape about Cunningham's comment as well. Many people don't know that Obama WILLINGLY changed his name to that, it's not a case of someone born with an inappropriate name. Fair game.

I have never heard he WILLINGLY changed his name to that.  Can you post a link?
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/9/14538/81744

Barack Hussein Obama was his father's name, he changed it to that when he was about twelve. Read his FIRST book, he goes into more detail about his great awakening. I'm tired of the left getting their way by whining, if they don't like him referred to by his middle name, too bad - he's been VERY deceptive on the Muslim questions to begin with.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 27, 2008, 10:41:17 PM
Another one of Juan's nicknames is McNasty.

Juan ------ the MSM really DOESN'T like you.

He has to live in the real world where this would be an issue time and time again if he said nothing.  If he let it slide, every time he had to speak to the media it would get brought up again and again because you know they wouldn't let it slide. 

While Hussein is Obama's middle name, anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that this talk show host used it as a negative, not simply as his middle name.  I think there are many things to slam Obama with, his middle name isn't one of them.

MediaMatters is all bent out of shape about Cunningham's comment as well. Many people don't know that Obama WILLINGLY changed his name to that, it's not a case of someone born with an inappropriate name. Fair game.

I have never heard he WILLINGLY changed his name to that.  Can you post a link?
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/9/14538/81744

Barack Hussein Obama was his father's name, he changed it to that when he was about twelve. Read his FIRST book, he goes into more detail about his great awakening. I'm tired of the left getting their way by whining, if they don't like him referred to by his middle name, too bad - he's been VERY deceptive on the Muslim questions to begin with.


Makes ya wonder why he did that. I wonder if his full name was Barry Hussein Soetoro.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 27, 2008, 10:58:22 PM

Why? The Candidate with No Middle Name has, essentially, the same policies Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Essentially, the only difference between The Candidate with No Middle Name and Hillary is Hillary has a middle name we are allowed to say.

why do i think Hilary would do anything to Obama to clinch the nomination? i think Hilary would shoot the guy herself, if she thought she could get away with it. i think she is so desparate to get back into the White House she would kill her own mother if she had to.

their respective politics arent even the issue here... the issue is, which one is going to land the nomination.

as for the guy's middle name, its such a non starter i dont even know where to begin. get out of the weeds and get back into what the real issues are. Mitt's first name is Wilbur (I learned today) along with a whole host of other presidential names. and guess what? the guy's name doesnt matter a bit. do you think if Osama bin Laden's name was Larry, we'd want to kill him any less?


Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 27, 2008, 11:47:49 PM

Why? The Candidate with No Middle Name has, essentially, the same policies Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Essentially, the only difference between The Candidate with No Middle Name and Hillary is Hillary has a middle name we are allowed to say.

why do i think Hilary would do anything to Obama to clinch the nomination? i think Hilary would shoot the guy herself, if she thought she could get away with it. i think she is so desparate to get back into the White House she would kill her own mother if she had to.

their respective politics arent even the issue here... the issue is, which one is going to land the nomination.

as for the guy's middle name, its such a non starter i dont even know where to begin. get out of the weeds and get back into what the real issues are. Mitt's first name is Wilbur (I learned today) along with a whole host of other presidential names. and guess what? the guy's name doesnt matter a bit. do you think if Osama bin Laden's name was Larry, we'd want to kill him any less?



No, why shouldn't The Media's Candidate go after the Candidate with No Middle Name's policies when they are, essentially, the same policies as Hillary Rodham Clinton.  He doesn't even have to name the candidate, just go after the policies.

Rodham, btw, is Femminazi for Keeper of the Testicle Lock Box.  Well, a direct translation is a bit more graphic than that, but we all can get the idea.

Anyway, it is the people like The Media's Candidate and the supporter's of The Candidate with No Middle Name who have made his middle name an issue. 

It is also an issue that The Media's Candidate will do seemingly anything to please the media.  Including and especially and consistantly throwing the conservative-of-the-day under the Straight Talk Express bus.  It is a big issue for us conservatives.  The Candidate with No Middle Name's middle name wouldn't even be an issue, no one would have even heard Cunnginham's red meat warm for The Media's Candidate if the Media's Candidate didn't make an issue of it. 

Something to ponder while we wait for the Media's Candidate to get out of the race and throw his endorsement to The Candidate with No Middle Name.

Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 27, 2008, 11:54:22 PM

Now that I think about it, it's not Obama's middle name we should be concerned about, it's his first name... Barack, which sounds a little Mortal Kombatish for me.


(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/1b/Mkg_baraka.gif)

Baraka Hussien Obama.  :lmao:




Dude, everytime I hear the name Barack Obama, I think of Baraka from Mortal Kombat.  :lmao:
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 27, 2008, 11:55:14 PM
I always feel that McCain is not there.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 28, 2008, 12:15:11 AM

Why? The Candidate with No Middle Name has, essentially, the same policies Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Essentially, the only difference between The Candidate with No Middle Name and Hillary is Hillary has a middle name we are allowed to say.

why do i think Hilary would do anything to Obama to clinch the nomination? i think Hilary would shoot the guy herself, if she thought she could get away with it. i think she is so desparate to get back into the White House she would kill her own mother if she had to.

their respective politics arent even the issue here... the issue is, which one is going to land the nomination.

as for the guy's middle name, its such a non starter i dont even know where to begin. get out of the weeds and get back into what the real issues are. Mitt's first name is Wilbur (I learned today) along with a whole host of other presidential names. and guess what? the guy's name doesnt matter a bit. do you think if Osama bin Laden's name was Larry, we'd want to kill him any less?



No, why shouldn't The Media's Candidate go after the Candidate with No Middle Name's policies when they are, essentially, the same policies as Hillary Rodham Clinton.  He doesn't even have to name the candidate, just go after the policies.

Rodham, btw, is Femminazi for Keeper of the Testicle Lock Box.  Well, a direct translation is a bit more graphic than that, but we all can get the idea.

Anyway, it is the people like The Media's Candidate and the supporter's of The Candidate with No Middle Name who have made his middle name an issue. 

It is also an issue that The Media's Candidate will do seemingly anything to please the media.  Including and especially and consistantly throwing the conservative-of-the-day under the Straight Talk Express bus.  It is a big issue for us conservatives.  The Candidate with No Middle Name's middle name wouldn't even be an issue, no one would have even heard Cunnginham's red meat warm for The Media's Candidate if the Media's Candidate didn't make an issue of it. 

Something to ponder while we wait for the Media's Candidate to get out of the race and throw his endorsement to The Candidate with No Middle Name.



i think youre living in somewhat of a fantasy land here. I'm going to use everyone's names cause well, i'm an adult :-)

McCain is not going to bow out and give the whole thing to Obama. I think you're forgetting the big, stinking hissy fit McCain threw the last time he lost the nomination to someone on his own side (GW in 2000).

Obama is having his little slap fight with Hilary on her way out .. and once she's gone, Obama's gonna get his ass kicked but good by a real adult. Probably the first one he's actually ever debated in the past year.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 28, 2008, 12:30:28 AM

Why? The Candidate with No Middle Name has, essentially, the same policies Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Essentially, the only difference between The Candidate with No Middle Name and Hillary is Hillary has a middle name we are allowed to say.

why do i think Hilary would do anything to Obama to clinch the nomination? i think Hilary would shoot the guy herself, if she thought she could get away with it. i think she is so desparate to get back into the White House she would kill her own mother if she had to.

their respective politics arent even the issue here... the issue is, which one is going to land the nomination.

as for the guy's middle name, its such a non starter i dont even know where to begin. get out of the weeds and get back into what the real issues are. Mitt's first name is Wilbur (I learned today) along with a whole host of other presidential names. and guess what? the guy's name doesnt matter a bit. do you think if Osama bin Laden's name was Larry, we'd want to kill him any less?



No, why shouldn't The Media's Candidate go after the Candidate with No Middle Name's policies when they are, essentially, the same policies as Hillary Rodham Clinton.  He doesn't even have to name the candidate, just go after the policies.

Rodham, btw, is Femminazi for Keeper of the Testicle Lock Box.  Well, a direct translation is a bit more graphic than that, but we all can get the idea.

Anyway, it is the people like The Media's Candidate and the supporter's of The Candidate with No Middle Name who have made his middle name an issue. 

It is also an issue that The Media's Candidate will do seemingly anything to please the media.  Including and especially and consistantly throwing the conservative-of-the-day under the Straight Talk Express bus.  It is a big issue for us conservatives.  The Candidate with No Middle Name's middle name wouldn't even be an issue, no one would have even heard Cunnginham's red meat warm for The Media's Candidate if the Media's Candidate didn't make an issue of it. 

Something to ponder while we wait for the Media's Candidate to get out of the race and throw his endorsement to The Candidate with No Middle Name.



i think youre living in somewhat of a fantasy land here. I'm going to use everyone's names cause well, i'm an adult :-)

McCain is not going to bow out and give the whole thing to Obama. I think you're forgetting the big, stinking hissy fit McCain threw the last time he lost the nomination to someone on his own side (GW in 2000).

Obama is having his little slap fight with Hilary on her way out .. and once she's gone, Obama's gonna get his ass kicked but good by a real adult. Probably the first one he's actually ever debated in the past year.
It's hard to tell who the adults are these days.  I'm not at all sure McCain is one.  Anyone who throws a hissy fit probably isn't one and as you point out, McCain throws hissy fits.

He threw one when someone used Barrock Hussien Obama middle name, for god's sake!

And there are people here who say we should use it. 

Fantasy land.  McCain as the conservative for sure is fantasy land.

Barrock Hussein Obama the Christian may be one as well.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Lauri on February 28, 2008, 10:09:08 AM
Ok, well, he's the one we have.. for better or worse. I thought GW was going to be far different than he turned out to be, although I agree with *most* of what he has done. As a fellow Texan, I was assuming GW would storm thru DC and kick ass and take names, but he didnt.

We arent going to get a brokered convention and from what I've read about them, I dont think we want one.

If McCain isnt able to shut Obama down in the debates, head to head, then we can all go vote for Obama I guess... but I really dont think McCain is going to have much of a problem.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: LadyLiberty on February 28, 2008, 11:57:51 AM
McCain Disavows Comments About Obama

"Now we have a hack, Chicago-style Daley politician who is picturing himself as change. When he gets done with you, all you're going to have in your pocket is change," Cunningham said as the audience roared.



Hey, this was my line  :whatever:

McCain is pandering to the Dems, trying to be "polite" with this. What a waste.
Title: Re: McLame really has no spine
Post by: Duke Nukum on February 28, 2008, 12:12:19 PM
McCain Disavows Comments About Obama

"Now we have a hack, Chicago-style Daley politician who is picturing himself as change. When he gets done with you, all you're going to have in your pocket is change," Cunningham said as the audience roared.



Hey, this was my line  :whatever:

McCain is pandering to the Dems, trying to be "polite" with this. What a waste.
Well, the good news is McCain actually criticized Barrack Hussein Obama today about Al Qaeda in Iraq, though I expect later in the day he will rebuke himself.