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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on September 02, 2009, 06:43:48 AM
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (925 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:05 AM
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Excuse me, but when the hell are we going to tax some ****ing rich people!?!
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 03:09 AM by Lorax7844
Sorry, if you make over 10 million dollars a year; well, it's time to buck the **** up and give the government half. If you make over 5 million well then you can pay 40%. I just saw a thread on cutting medicaid to pay for healthcare and I say "No ****ing way assholes!" It's time for the rich to pay the **** up! I think that this should be something that we push, cause if I hear one more god damn democrat talking about cutting vital services to pay for healthcare I am going to go apeshit. **** that noise! IT'S TIME TO TAX THE RICH!
End Rant.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6443326
Liberals are so generous with other people's money.
Taitertots (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:11 AM
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1. Half is not enough
No taxes until 100,000 a year
After 100,000 25% on everything up to 500,000
After 500,000 50% on everything up to 1,000,000
After 1,000,000 90% tax on everything else
Lorax7844 Donating Member (925 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:17 AM
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3. Well, even 500,000 is middle class these days especially if you live in CA or NY..
I want to go after the top, I want to get the rich mother ****ers robbing us all.
Yeah me too just last night a limo pulled up and the driver got out and mugged me. :whatever:
Lorax7844 Donating Member (925 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:23 AM
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7. **** um I'm sick of funds getting cut for the poor while those assholes are fighting over lear jets
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 03:25 AM by Lorax7844
and $20,000 garbage cans.
You want to pay down the deficit and pay for health care, tax the rich, the end. Anyone that says differently is ****ing us!
But if people want to buy crab legs on food stamps they are deserving. :whatever:
slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 06:19 AM
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23. I've been wondering the same thing!
The huge gap between the rich and the poor hasn't been this big since the 1930's - and may end up being even bigger than that. We ALLOW the rich to get rich by exploiting the land, the environment, workers, etc. They OWE us. They should be taxed at an EXTREMELY high rate. Unless we all want to end up basically slaves working for $7 an hour, we MUST close the gap between the rich and poor. Taxing the rich to help provide healthcare for the poor who they exploit, ignore, even hate - would be a good start.
salguine (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 06:51 AM
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29. I was past "tax them" a long time ago. Tell me why we shouldn't ****ing behead them.
To be fair I am assuming this is a sarcastic snark.
salguine (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 06:53 AM
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30. It's corporations, too...75% of US corporations pay NO income tax. None. Zero.
How many times do I have to say it? Corporations do not pay taxes the consumer does.
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I make around 1 percent of that $10 million figure, and when you add up SSA, Fed, property tax, etc., it adds up to over 40 percent. And I know the "rich" pay a shitload more.
How bout you lazy effers put down the Cheetos, get off the couch, and do for yourselves for a change?
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When you see a Little Goon or its ilk writing "tax the rich". please let your mind register "confiscate assets from the rich". That's what they really mean.
The Little Goons cannot possible be happy to just tax the "income" of the rich. There are far too many rich folk out there with no real taxable income. And besides, to start anew taxing income today still leaves the rich with a pile of money and assets which qualifies them to be labeled "rich". They can't have that.
The rich must be made poor. That is, except for the lefty rich, which is a problem for the Little Goons because so very many of their lefty hero-types are very very very rich.
"CONFISCATE CONSERVATIVES' WEALTH AND GIVE IT TO THE STATE" <<< now THAT would be honest.
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Wahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
Someone needs to pay for me to live for free!!!
Drop dead asshole. :bird:
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:11 AM
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1. Half is not enough
No taxes until 100,000 a year
After 100,000 25% on everything up to 500,000
After 500,000 50% on everything up to 1,000,000
After 1,000,000 90% tax on everything else
Right... so people who make $1,000,000 a year really only take home half as much as people who get paid half what they do. God these people are ****ing idiots. :whatever:
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The limousine libs don't care if the Lorax numbers primitive or the others on Skin's island scream out a rant about taxing the rich. They know they have neither the power, the mental capacity, nor the backbone to be able to follow through with their rants. And they know that come election time, they'll mindlessly pull the Dem party lever like the little sheep they are. The primitives are stuck in a prison of their own making.
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When you see a Little Goon or its ilk writing "tax the rich". please let your mind register "confiscate assets from the rich". That's what they really mean.
The Little Goons cannot possible be happy to just tax the "income" of the rich. There are far too many rich folk out there with no real taxable income. And besides, to start anew taxing income today still leaves the rich with a pile of money and assets which qualifies them to be labeled "rich". They can't have that.
The rich must be made poor. That is, except for the lefty rich, which is a problem for the Little Goons because so very many of their lefty hero-types are very very very rich.
"CONFISCATE CONSERVATIVES' WEALTH AND GIVE IT TO THE STATE" <<< now THAT would be honest.
:cheersmate:
Dead on. Oh, one other . . . Neighbor, you too are dead on.
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:11 AM
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1. Half is not enough
No taxes until 100,000 a year
After 100,000 25% on everything up to 500,000
After 500,000 50% on everything up to 1,000,000
After 1,000,000 90% tax on everything else
Yea that'll work.
How many people do you think will earn $100,000-$125,000? vs $99,999?
How many people will stop at $999,999.99?
Do they really think people are going to just continue to work hard to earn more just to support the government, when they can just turn down that promotion or ease back on the sales or give the extra money to charity?
Do they think people don't have any influence over how much they make? Do they think people won't feel resentful and do everything they can to keep the money out of the hands of the government? People are already resentful with just the rhetoric.
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Even if the top 5% of wage earners were taxed at 100%, it still would not make a noticeable dent in 0Bama's deficit.
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-02-09 03:11 AM
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1. Half is not enough
No taxes until 100,000 a year
After 100,000 25% on everything up to 500,000
After 500,000 50% on everything up to 1,000,000
After 1,000,000 90% tax on everything else
...and watch entire industries of people who cater to those people go belly up, sending hundreds of thousands out into the world on unemployment.
Yeah, great move, single cell. Great move. The thing about this country you f'n retards don't understand is that there are industries who support ALL tax brackets. ...and those industries are filled with people that work the lines, clean the buildings, power the buildings, provide water to the buildings, sell cars to the workers, work the restaurants that serve the workers, landscape the buildings, provide raw materials for the operation, etc., etc., etc., etc.
What DO you f'n idiots not understand? Why do you idiots think entire towns essentially go extinct when one main factory is closed? I mean, according to you idiots the only people affected would be the people that business serves, right?
Damn, it's like trying to explain Physics to a 5 Y/O.
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Do they really think people are going to just continue to work hard to earn more just to support the government, when they can just turn down that promotion or ease back on the sales or give the extra money to charity?
Here's another weird thing, because I've talked to libs about it.
Let's say someone is a commissioned salesperson and they make $1M/yr. Libs are under the impression if for tax reasons this salesperson decides to only make $250K/yr, that 3 other people over the course of the year can step into that persons' shoes and make $250K each. There's no concept in their fragile egg-shelled minds that the reason that person makes $1M/yr is because they've built up the relationships with the clientele to be able to do that kind of business. They really believe someone else can just pick up where the other left off. :mental:
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Here's another weird thing, because I've talked to libs about it.
Let's say someone is a commissioned salesperson and they make $1M/yr. Libs are under the impression if for tax reasons this salesperson decides to only make $250K/yr, that 3 other people over the course of the year can step into that persons' shoes and make $250K each. There's no concept in their fragile egg-shelled minds that the reason that person makes $1M/yr is because they've built up the relationships with the clientele to be able to do that kind of business. They really believe someone else can just pick up where the other left off. :mental:
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Not gonna happen.
As a personal side to this, my father was a salesman all his life. He wasn't terribly "book smart," in that he never had a degree. He did go out and take a fair number of Dale Carnagie courses. He built up a personal touch with his clients (he sold auto parts to big wholesalers). I distinctly remember one of his big customers telling me that one of the main reasons that the company that he represented (Raybestos) was still being sold by his chain of auto parts stores was the personal touch that my father built up with his customers. He became a regional manager, having 15-20 salesmen work for him, and made sure that he had seminars for them that tried to impart the same things he had learned. They pretty much forced him out a couple of years ago (having lasted there for far longer than he thought he should have, just from brute competence), because he was too old . . . so now he just enjoys his retirement, and works six weeks out of the year for NYRA as a supervisor for parimutuel clerks at Saratoga Race Course. (The last week of the season starts today, and, last year, they asked him to come to Belmont and work the Jockey Gold Cup for the day. Guess that he made an impression on his supervisors there, too.)
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The limousine libs don't care if the Lorax numbers primitive or the others on Skin's island scream out a rant about taxing the rich. They know they have neither the power, the mental capacity, nor the backbone to be able to follow through with their rants. And they know that come election time, they'll mindlessly pull the Dem party lever like the little sheep they are. The primitives are stuck in a prison of their own making.
So lets make this clear. George Soros, William Buffett, Bill Gatess, Peter Lewis, all the big stars in Hollywood, Charlie Rangel and Barack Obama should all be paying at LEAST 50% in income taxes?? Right?? All those rap musicians, rock n rollers, NBA players etc etc would be out of luck?
I guess that would mean they would need to stop funding so many leftwing causes.
And they should not be allowed to invest in tax-free municipal bonds either!! Talk about a tax shelter!!
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (925 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:23 AM
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7. **** um I'm sick of funds getting cut for the poor while those assholes are fighting over lear jets
and $20,000 garbage cans.
You want to pay down the deficit and pay for health care, tax the rich, the end. Anyone that says differently is ****ing us!
Why is this DUmmie complaining about its congress?
KC
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Do they think people don't have any influence over how much they make?
Yes! In bolshevik lingo, spoken just a few years ago by the wimpy then majority leader of the Senate, Tom Daschle, we are "winners in life's lottery".
Life is a lottery. There is no credit or blame affixed to one's success or lack of it.
A human being is just a little piece of trash floating through the currents and eddies of the river of time.
People who attain more than that are just the beneficiaries of a bolt of lightning, or some other naturally-occurring anomaly.
That is the DUmmy view, and it explains their attitude toward us as well as their general uselessness.
They are convinced they are helpless human trash, and that nothing will change that. Their hatred of us is pure jealousy.
The DUmmy view, in their case, is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Here's another weird thing, because I've talked to libs about it.
Let's say someone is a commissioned salesperson and they make $1M/yr. Libs are under the impression if for tax reasons this salesperson decides to only make $250K/yr, that 3 other people over the course of the year can step into that persons' shoes and make $250K each. There's no concept in their fragile egg-shelled minds that the reason that person makes $1M/yr is because they've built up the relationships with the clientele to be able to do that kind of business. They really believe someone else can just pick up where the other left off. :mental:
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Dare I suggest that maybe a little experience with this thing that we call work might help them to understand a little better. :whatever:
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Dare I suggest that maybe a little experience with this thing that we call work might help them to understand a little better. :whatever:
What you suggest is 10 times worse than waterboarding, placing panties on the head, and sleep deprivation combined. :lmao:
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Great to see that the entitlement nation still thrives.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Obamarama/Entitlement%20Nation/36jul22-entitlement.jpg)
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Perhaps Obamussolini's czars mentioned to him "Hey, WE'RE rich, and so are you! Maybe we better re-think the BS we flung to get those idiots to vote you into office..."
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Dare I suggest that maybe a little experience with this thing that we call work might help them to understand a little better. :whatever:
A DUmmie that actually WAS willing to work would NEVER have a commissioned pay type of job. Because it is not a fair way to make a living. They might actually have to show up for weeks, possibly months, getting no pay. Then there is that nasty thing called a successful salesman, who would be making FAR MORE than anyone has a right to make.
KC
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To Terry's point. In blue country Connecticut, they have a new law. You can sail along with normal tax tables until you hit $138,000. All of a sudden from penny one, your taxes are JACKED way up. I mean a hockey stick curve. It's stupid. I called my ex husband who works commission sales there, and advised him to go up until 130K or so then watch it. Take the days off, take the vacations, take lunch hours. Scale back and go Galt.
Didn't CT congressgoons consider that?
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 03:11 AM
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1. Half is not enough
No taxes until 100,000 a year
After 100,000 25% on everything up to 500,000
After 500,000 50% on everything up to 1,000,000
After 1,000,000 90% tax on everything else
OK, let's see just how this works.
If you make $100,000 then you keep your $100,000
If you make $100,001 then you keep $75,000. Boy don't that sound like a good idea?
If you make $500,000 then you keep $250,000. You lose half!
So if you make $1,000,000 you have to pay 25% on $100,001 up to $500,000. That works out to $125,000 in tax. The next $500,000 works out to be $250,000 in tax for a total of $375,000 in total. Or actually if you tax them on $999,999 it actually would be $499,999.50
If you make $1,000,000 then you get to keep $.10 on every dollar over the original. Boy, there will be a hell of a lot of incentive to make money for the frikkin' governmaent, won't there?
So you in your infinite wisdom believe anyone making a million dollars should give half to the government! If you think people will put up with half of their income being confiscated, you certainly don't know the American people. The fact is, they DAMN near pay that now, and they're telling Bam Bam to pound sand!
DUmmie math always makes me want to have another scotch!
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We really need to apply that to small business owners.
Example:
I can double my companies revenue and make more money but I will have to hire people (more headaches), risk capital to expand, be under even more government regulations (more headaches), and overall have more work to do and more worries. Is all of the above worth it if I don't make an incremental jump in take home? NO.
The most likely outcome will be, I do not double my sales, I don't hire anymore employees (in fact may look at downsizing), keep capital (no one else hires people), have just a minor yearly increase in government making it harder for me to stay in business, and have about the same amount of work and worries. The possible business goes, most likely, to another country.
That's economic reality.
Of course this is based on my actually having a small business and not eating cheetos in the basement or being a politician that has never honestly put a meal on anybody's table.
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bikebloke (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 11:10 AM
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63. I've seen their tax returns.
I used to work in a bank auditing loans. And I saw a lot of tax returns of people making $300,000 - $500,000 a year. My wage was not much more than minimum wage without benefits, yet I was paying more in taxes than they were. And not by percentage, but dollars.
:bs:
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bikebloke (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 11:10 AM
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63. I've seen their tax returns.
I used to work in a bank auditing loans. And I saw a lot of tax returns of people making $300,000 - $500,000 a year. My wage was not much more than minimum wage without benefits, yet I was paying more in taxes than they were. And not by percentage, but dollars.
:lmao:
How can it expect ANYONE to believe that pile of horseshit?! 10 to 1 odds said DUmmie making minimum wage was paying ZERO in taxes and quite possibly, due to the magic of the EIC, said DUmmie got back more than it paid in.
If this was true I need to get a new tax guy .... I paid almost $30,000 last year and I didn't make anywhere CLOSE to $300,000.
DUmmie, I know you're reading this so pay attention. That means I paid almost twice what you earned in a year.
KC
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I'm about half way through Atlas Shrugged, and their comments perfectly mirror those of the "looters" and "rotters" Ayn Rand describes. And I do mean perfectly, down to the premise that wealth is only created by exploiting others and that the wealthy force people to work for them for low wages, and force people to buy their products at unfair prices.
These people actually think wealth is generated just by being in the right place at the right time, or by having the right parents. It would never occur to them that they're poor because they're useless and have no purpose in life, other than to scream about "fairness" in their little echo chamber.
Go ahead people. Tax the rich out of existence. Impose astronomic tax rates on the wealthy and corporations alike. Just don't sit around then and wonder why America has devolved into a cannibalistic, impoverished state.
That cell phone you gab on? Your computer? Your car? Your house? Your TV? Your favorite programs? Your refrigerator and the food in it? Your bed? Your camera? Pretty much every luxury or necessity you can think of? Someone got disgustingly ****ing rich by producing that product and offering it to the masses. The inherent benefit to society was merely a side effect of creating a good product.
So go ahead. Kill all initiative. Demonize the producers and movers of the world. Display your horrid envy and base perversion for all to see. Hold your own, useless, leech**** self up as a model, and see what you produce. In short, you will have nothing, which is exactly what you deserve.
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I'm about half way through Atlas Shrugged, and their comments perfectly mirror those of the "looters" and "rotters" Ayn Rand describes. And I do mean perfectly, down to the premise that wealth is only created by exploiting others and that the wealthy force people to work for them for low wages, and force people to buy their products at unfair prices.
These people actually think wealth is generated just by being in the right place at the right time, or by having the right parents. It would never occur to them that they're poor because they're useless and have no purpose in life, other than to scream about "fairness" in their little echo chamber.
Go ahead people. Tax the rich out of existence. Impose astronomic tax rates on the wealthy and corporations alike. Just don't sit around then and wonder why America has devolved into a cannibalistic, impoverished state.
That cell phone you gab on? Your computer? Your car? Your house? Your TV? Your favorite programs? Your refrigerator and the food in it? Your bed? Your camera? Pretty much every luxury or necessity you can think of? Someone got disgustingly ******* rich by producing that product and offering it to the masses. The inherent benefit to society was merely a side effect of creating a good product.
So go ahead. Kill all initiative. Demonize the producers and movers of the world. Display your horrid envy and base perversion for all to see. Hold your own, useless, leech**** self up as a model, and see what you produce. In short, you will have nothing, which is exactly what you deserve.
:cheersmate:
Actually I think the DUmmies don't understand that wealth is created. They appear hold the belief that it's a zero sum game and the only way to get richer is to make someone poorer.
I guess we'll always need burger flippers and septic tank cleaners so there will be always be a job for them to fill.
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Exactly...no one would be in a sensitive position auditing tax returns and be paid minimum wage.
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 04:45 PM
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82. Tax them?
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 04:49 PM by Leftist Agitator
**** that. We should nationalize 99% of the assets of anyone with more than 50 million dollars. They can live comfortably off of 500k, I'm certain. Anyone who is worth 10 mil - 50 mil can surrender 75% of their assets. 5 mil - 10 mil, 50%.
If they want to complain, put them in internment camps.
Problem solved.
Spoken like a true left wing loser who never will be anything but a loser.
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 04:45 PM
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82. Tax them?
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 04:49 PM by Leftist Agitator
**** that. We should nationalize 99% of the assets of anyone with more than 50 million dollars. They can live comfortably off of 500k, I'm certain. Anyone who is worth 10 mil - 50 mil can surrender 75% of their assets. 5 mil - 10 mil, 50%.
If they want to complain, put them in internment camps.
Problem solved.
Tell you what lets take 75% of your pot stash and divvy it up at DU. :mental:
Liberals are generous with other people's money and assets. :banghead:
So lemme get this straight holding terrorists is bad, but you want to throw people who complain when the govt steals from them in camps?
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I guess we'll always need burger flippers and septic tank cleaners so there will be always be a job for them to fill.
I get your gist but I think you give those idiots too much credit. Flipping burgers or cleaning septic tanks is so far "beneath" those entitlement whores, and there's no way they could budget to live on the salary from either of those jobs.
No, there is honor in hard work. DUmmies have no concept of honor. Slogging through your responsibilities, day in and day out, to be able to say, "This house is mine. This food is mine. This computer I'm typing on is mine. I earned it with my own sweat and blood." The only higher honor is willing self-sacrifice.
The DUmmies are the antithesis of honor. They expect, simply because they're alive, to be provided for. There is no reasoning with leech****s like that, because reasoning requires a basic, agreeable premise. Their worldview is entirely opposite of mine. ENTIRELY.
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Well said, Chump!
:cheersmate:
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For the life of me, I can't figure out how raising Bill Gates' taxes makes my life any better.... :???:
Is it me, or are the DUmmies just too damned stupid to be left alone with a computer and anything with a sharp, pointy end? :mental:
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Lemme tell you guys about my wife's uncle. He was raised in a home, that wasn't anything special, in the country in a very poor family. He worked odd jobs from the time he could work odd jobs. When he saved up enough money from part time jobs, etc., he had enough money to buy his first vehicle. He bought a sewage pump truck. Can you imagine? This is the vehicle he took to high school. When he got out of class every day, he'd go and pump out sewage from septics after school. At about age 21, he was able to buy his first vehicle. A Corvette. 5 years of busting his ass had paid off. With only a high school diploma, he was well on his way to making it.
That man is now about 48, an ARDENT Conservative who voted for Mitt in the primary, lives in Thomson, Ga., and is a multimillionaire who's into property speculation and also builds homes, flats, and condos. All on his OWN blood, sweat, and tears. He didn't need the f'n government helping him. Now he lives on 10 acres, has an inground pool, and has about a 7000 sq' home with a couple of classic cars. ...and he's still country as hell. He has every toy you could ever need in the country.
I am not like him. I didn't take the initiative. I didn't risk my money like he did, other than the stock market. I just didn't take the risks. He did. It paid off. Gambling? HELL no. He had input into it. Again, it paid off for him. He's one of the hardest working men I've ever seen in my life. He still runs his septic business and this MILLIONAIRE still pumps septic tanks himself.
So **** you D-U-mbasses.
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I wanna buy my brother a septic sucking truck now
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I wanna buy my brother a septic sucking truck now
It's a LOT of work. A LOT of work. He also cleans huge compartmented grease traps for restaurants. He's shown up late, at his own home, for family reunions because he's doing a job. I can PM you his name. I'm not putting it on here.
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It's a LOT of work. A LOT of work. He also cleans huge compartmented grease traps for restaurants. He's shown up late, at his own home, for family reunions because he's doing a job. I can PM you his name. I'm not putting it on here.
I doubt my brother would want to anything but be a security guard
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For the life of me, I can't figure out how raising Bill Gates' taxes makes my life any better.... :???:
And right there is the difference between a democrat and a Republican.
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I get your gist but I think you give those idiots too much credit. Flipping burgers or cleaning septic tanks is so far "beneath" those entitlement whores, and there's no way they could budget to live on the salary from either of those jobs.
No, there is honor in hard work. DUmmies have no concept of honor. Slogging through your responsibilities, day in and day out, to be able to say, "This house is mine. This food is mine. This computer I'm typing on is mine. I earned it with my own sweat and blood." The only higher honor is willing self-sacrifice.
The DUmmies are the antithesis of honor. They expect, simply because they're alive, to be provided for. There is no reasoning with leech****s like that, because reasoning requires a basic, agreeable premise. Their worldview is entirely opposite of mine. ENTIRELY.
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Good point.
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Well said and excellent illustration Sarah.
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I'll have to look for the link sometime today, but I read just recently that in England (or maybe it was just in London) 1/6th of all people didn't work and 1 out of every 5 children lives in a home where neither parent works. It was a great illustration of just how the socialist "the world owes me a living" system puts people into a perpetual welfare state keeping them dependent.
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Lemme tell you guys about my wife's uncle. He was raised in a home, that wasn't anything special, in the country in a very poor family. He worked odd jobs from the time he could work odd jobs. When he saved up enough money from part time jobs, etc., he had enough money to buy his first vehicle. He bought a sewage pump truck. Can you imagine? This is the vehicle he took to high school. When he got out of class every day, he'd go and pump out sewage from septics after school. At about age 21, he was able to buy his first vehicle. A Corvette. 5 years of busting his ass had paid off. With only a high school diploma, he was well on his way to making it.
That man is now about 48, an ARDENT Conservative who voted for Mitt in the primary, lives in Thomson, Ga., and is a multimillionaire who's into property speculation and also builds homes, flats, and condos. All on his OWN blood, sweat, and tears. He didn't need the f'n government helping him. Now he lives on 10 acres, has an inground pool, and has about a 7000 sq' home with a couple of classic cars. ...and he's still country as hell. He has every toy you could ever need in the country.
I am not like him. I didn't take the initiative. I didn't risk my money like he did, other than the stock market. I just didn't take the risks. He did. It paid off. Gambling? HELL no. He had input into it. Again, it paid off for him. He's one of the hardest working men I've ever seen in my life. He still runs his septic business and this MILLIONAIRE still pumps septic tanks himself.
So **** you D-U-mbasses.
There was an old man here that made millions. He was a home builder/realestate developer, etc.. He started a local bank and had interest in several others in other towns. He had many businesses outta town and outta state....a millionaire many times over.
I was coming home from work late one day. I drove right by his grandsons house. The old man was 88 at the time and he was up on top of the grandsons house putting on shingles.
Back in '72 or '73, I was grading around a house he had built. The brick masons had run out of morter sand and were loading up to leave when the old man came by in a brand stinking new Buick. He was checking on things. The brick masons lacked just enough sand to do the backdoor steps. The old man told them to unload their stuff, he'd be right back with the sand. It wasn't long he drove up in the brand stinking new Buick and raised the trunk lid....started shoveling out sand into the morter box... :rotf:
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Back in '72 or '73, I was grading around a house he had built. The brick masons had run out of morter sand and were loading up to leave when the old man came by in a brand stinking new Buick. He was checking on things. The brick masons lacked just enough sand to do the backdoor steps. The old man told them to unload their stuff, he'd be right back with the sand. It wasn't long he drove up in the brand stinking new Buick and raised the trunk lid....started shoveling out sand into the morter box... :rotf:
for some people "get'er done" is a way of life
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I'll have to look for the link sometime today, but I read just recently that in England (or maybe it was just in London) 1/6th of all people didn't work and 1 out of every 5 children lives in a home where neither parent works. It was a great illustration of just how the socialist "the world owes me a living" system puts people into a perpetual welfare state keeping them dependent.
I think it said something like 5 million have never ever had a job!! ever?? Not even a summer sacking groceries?
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Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 04:49 PM by Leftist Agitator
**** that. We should nationalize 99% of the assets of anyone with more than 50 million dollars. They can live comfortably off of 500k, I'm certain. Anyone who is worth 10 mil - 50 mil can surrender 75% of their assets. 5 mil - 10 mil, 50%.
If they want to complain, put them in internment camps.
Problem solved.
Does it occur to the agitator that anybody that rich can simply get up and leave the country? At a moment's notice? Why doesn't the obvious ever hit these imbeciles like a ton of bricks? Why doesn't a real ton of bricks hit any of them?
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Subway Cat weighed in on that thread:
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-02-09 08:55 PM
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111. If they refuse to pay up..
Then can we put their heads on pikes?
Taxes are what people pay for a functioning civilized society.The rich have too much because the poor and too many go without for this to be anything but financial abuse on a national scale. The rich MUST be forced to SHARE what they hoard and wring from others that give them too much(working class,poor,anyone NOT rich). Because we all know we could go back to pillaging and taking it from the rich to survive when they make this country desperate and it's 'leaders' as corrupt as any tin pot tyranny..
We could "go back" to pillaging? And we all know that? I will give you the tin pot tyranny bit, though, kitty.
Nobody picked up on the idea of a rich guy just picking up and leaving, buying his own island or something.
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Does it occur to the agitator that anybody that rich can simply get up and leave the country? At a moment's notice? Why doesn't the obvious ever hit these imbeciles like a ton of bricks? Why doesn't a real ton of bricks hit any of them?
Remember all the British tax exiles of the 70s...usually lib musicions that bailed on 90+ %tax rates in England?
There is a way and that is where socialism morphs ultimately to communisim.
Berlin wall and an iron curtain to prevent the masses from leaving the hell the promised utopia actually is.
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Subway Cat weighed in on that thread:
We could "go back" to pillaging? And we all know that? I will give you the tin pot tyranny bit, though, kitty.
Nobody picked up on the idea of a rich guy just picking up and leaving, buying his own island or something.
Private Islands for sale. (http://www.privateislandsonline.com/unitedstates.htm)
Some aren't that expensive. :)
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Does it occur to the agitator that anybody that rich can simply get up and leave the country? At a moment's notice? Why doesn't the obvious ever hit these imbeciles like a ton of bricks? Why doesn't a real ton of bricks hit any of them?
Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Sep-02-09 06:54 PM
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96. Most people who have been beheaded have their incomes drastically
reduced, thus reducing the likelihood of being able to pay any income tax at all. That might make them eligible to benefit from this redistribution of income that so many seem to love.
If the entire upper 1% if earners is beheaded, thus eliminating the influx to the coffers of their 40% portion of the income tax they currently pay, and 47 million have no tax burden at all - won't this put the poor middle class further in debt?
Obamanut appears to get it.
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Let's be honest for a second here. These people want to tax the rich until they're the rich. Then they'll stop, of course.
It has nothing to do with helping others and everything to do with helping themselves. It's pure, spiteful envy through and through.
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Let's be honest for a second here. These people want to tax the rich until they're the rich. Then they'll stop, of course.
It has nothing to do with helping others and everything to do with helping themselves. It's pure, spiteful envy through and through.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have Teh Winnah! :cheersmate:
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I'll have to look for the link sometime today, but I read just recently that in England (or maybe it was just in London) 1/6th of all people didn't work and 1 out of every 5 children lives in a home where neither parent works. It was a great illustration of just how the socialist "the world owes me a living" system puts people into a perpetual welfare state keeping them dependent.
And most of them are muslim immigrants.
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Lorax7844 Donating Member (925 posts) Wed Sep-02-09 03:05 AM
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Excuse me, but when the hell are we going to tax some ****ing rich people!?!
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Right about the same time we start shooting some poor people.
Your move, punk.
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Right about the same time we start shooting some poor people. DUmb****s.
Your move, punk.
Fixt . . .