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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 01, 2009, 02:12:41 PM
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How illuminating:
Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-01-09 03:33 AM
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Inglourious Basterds: Quentin Tarantino goes to war
Quentin Tarantino's latest film Inglourious Basterds has been hailed by critics and has hovered at or near the top of the box office rankings since its release August 21. It is a thoroughly repugnant work in which Tarantino once again inflicts a series of confused and sadistic images onto a mass audience...
The story concerns a group of eight elite fighting men called the Inglourious Basterds. Led by Aldo Raine (Brad Pitt), the team is an undercover guerrilla assassination squad made up of Jewish-American Nazi hunters...In spite of the ostensibly more serious setting of the Second World War, one finds in this work the same elements one has come to expect from Tarantino's films: gratuitous and psychopathic violence, endless pop culture references, the glorification of revenge, drawn-out and tedious scenes of incidental dialogue, a self-conscious use of camera movement and editing, and pervasive cynicism. All of this is delivered with a sly wink toward the audience.
Tarantino has an encyclopedic knowledge of film history, or portions of it, but it doesn't do him much good. He takes the path of least resistance at every point... Anti-intellectualism and laziness are here made into a program...
As always, Tarantino's defenders will claim his ultra-stylized celebrations of violence aren't to be taken seriously. "It's only a movie," is the refrain heard again and again.
But Tarantino's films do mean something, no matter how much he and his admirers insist they do not, and certain social moods find expression in them. Can the director's increasing fascination with revenge be understood outside the context of a crisis-ridden, declining, post-9/11 America?
...Masses of people have been killed in the bloody colonial-style wars pursued by the US since 2001.
To produce a film in this context in which American soldiers torture and execute their enemies on the battlefield, in which the audience is invited to laugh at such atrocities and, in fact, to cheer them on, is utterly reprehensible. Tarantino is appealing to the worst instincts of his viewers. This is surely among the least healthy works to have emerged in the years since the attacks of September 11...
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Terrorists = Nazis
Nazis = Terrorists
And if you don't feel bad about killing terrorists/Nazis you're a bad person.
I know, I know they don't view the "terrorists" in the same context as Nazis. There are no terrorists, just hapless innocent goat-herders kidnapped in the middle of the night to be waterboarded into false confessions to justify conquering the world for capitalist exploitation.
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And if you don't feel bad about killing terrorists/Nazis you're a bad person.
I thought the Communists and NAZI's hated each other?
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It's all TEH JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeez, they need to learn a new tune.
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I thought the Communists and NAZI's hated each other?
Yeah...the way two stray dogs hate each other when fighting over the same pile of table scraps.
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Yeah...the way two stray dogs hate each other when fighting over the same pile of table scraps.
I guess I was thinking of WWI when the German Soldiers were terrified of being captured by the Russians and were purposely trying to get captured by the American soldiers when Berlin fell.
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I guess I was thinking of WWI when the German Soldiers were terrified of being captured by the Russians and were purposely trying to get captured by the American soldiers when Berlin fell.
Oh no...I understood your comment and you're 100% historically correct my only point was that neither hated the other over any moral objections only for the practical terms of competing power struggles. Hence, 2 stray dogs fighting for the same prize.
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I guess I was thinking of WWI when the German Soldiers were terrified of being captured by the Russians and were purposely trying to get captured by the American soldiers when Berlin fell.
No, you're correct in that was WW2. But SD is right; fascists and communists are members of the same Marxist family with oh-so slightly different viewpoints, but enough so that they dislike each other. Basically it's two tyrannys fighting over who can be the top dictator.
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That's it. I've got to see Inglorious Basterds.
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A thread about a movie that may or may not "glorify" those who kill terrorists gets 200 posts. Yet if Hannah Bell were to start a thread about Iraq or Afghanistan and how the troops need to be pulled out immediatley, it wouldn't get but maybe 20 posts. And she definately doesn't have the freedom to start a thread about how Dear Leader needs to be impeached for continuing to allow the military to kill brown people. Hannah Bell - another revolutionary wanna be who's scared of Skinner.
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I guess I was thinking of WWI when the German Soldiers were terrified of being captured by the Russians and were purposely trying to get captured by the American soldiers when Berlin fell.
When I was in 3d ACR, 3d Squadron had a troop commander whose father had been an officer in the 2nd SS Panzer Division. He told me that his division actually loaded onto rail cars while their tanks were firing at advancing Soviets, so they could go west and surrender to the Americans . . . who promptly turned them over to the Soviets. He spent a few years in a Soviet prison camp, desperately trying to hide his SS tattoo from his captors (successfully), until he was released and made his way to the US.