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Title: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 31, 2009, 08:21:48 AM
Guess where?

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Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine

August 28, 9:34 AM Huntsville Natural Parenting Examiner Katie Drinkard


A bill that has recently passed the Massachusetts senate gives the government a little too much power.  The bill is being hurried along due to fears of a Swine Flu pandemic this flu season.

According to the bill, if there is a Swine Flu pandemic and you don't get the Swine Flu vaccine, you can be ordered into quarantine.  If you refuse the quarantine, you can face a fine of $1,000 per day that you resist.



I'm including only those two paragraphs because the whole story is only five paragraphs long . . . but it also has a video clip.

http://www.examiner.com/x-6258-Huntsville-Natural-Parenting-Examiner~y2009m8d28-Refusing-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Quarantine-and-1000-per-day-fine
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 31, 2009, 08:28:13 AM
From the state of Massive-2-shits...ooops, one of them is gone. What shall I call it now?
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 31, 2009, 08:29:29 AM
Will they change the state motto to, "Don't ride with me."
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: NHSparky on August 31, 2009, 08:33:39 AM
From the state of Massive-2-shits...ooops, one of them is gone. What shall I call it now?

Massholistan is a good substitute.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: vesta111 on August 31, 2009, 09:02:47 AM
Massholistan is a good substitute.

Finally the government Will give me a paid vacation.

I just love the beach in the fall the air is cripes and sun warm---heaven.

So Hubby and I drive down to cape cod and check into a 4 star Hotel, $500.00 a night. we then head for a hospital coiffing, choking and falling down.

Most likely we will be quarantined in the hotel we just registered in as that is now legal address for us.   

30 days quarantine in a luxury sweet, 24 /7 room service,  Chances to sneakout at night to head for the night life in town, 30 days of beach combing and heading back to rooms that have been cleaned and polished.

Awaking every morning to a breakfast tray, WELL what you looking at.  If the government force's me into quarantine at the hotel I am staying, I have to accept the unknown and march bravely to my suite.

I never said I had the flu I just didn't feel to well as bad clams can do to you.

What, What What , you think I should fight the government and demand to be placed at the Salvation Army center.?

Oh Sigh I feel like Peg Bundy planning a vacation for her family.




Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Flame on August 31, 2009, 09:36:46 AM
They better not do that here...I don't even do the regular flu vacine, and this swine flu one is too iffy for me at this point to even consider.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on August 31, 2009, 09:55:56 AM
They better not do that here...I don't even do the regular flu vacine, and this swine flu one is too iffy for me at this point to even consider.

The fact that the lab 'Rats that created the vaccine won't take it should speak volumes.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: debk on August 31, 2009, 10:03:06 AM
They better not do that here...I don't even do the regular flu vacine, and this swine flu one is too iffy for me at this point to even consider.


I've never had a flu vaccine either.

My daughter does as she's an x-ray tech and it's required. My son had them while in the Navy.

Both of them always get sick when they get vaccinated.

This swine flu vaccine scares me more than getting the flu does.

It's already here and there's supposedly will be no vaccine here until mid-October according to the local paper. It showed up at UT the first week of school....
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: IassaFTots on August 31, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
TCU and UTA have already reported cases as well.  I imagine we will see more in the schools soon.

I don't do flu shots as well.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Eupher on August 31, 2009, 10:57:38 AM
Since Massholistan (damn, that's a good name Sparky!) is an unabashed liberal haven, I'm kinda wonderin' if the ACLU is going to be all over this - you know, like Teddy was all over The Big Dig.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: WMD Owl on August 31, 2009, 11:30:02 AM
Remember back in 1976 when we had the last swine flu scare around 25 people died from complications from the vaccine...

While only one person (at Fort Dix) actually died from the "swine flu"
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: diesel driver on August 31, 2009, 11:58:54 AM
They better not do that here...I don't even do the regular flu vacine, and this swine flu one is too iffy for me at this point to even consider.

I had my first AND last flu vaccine back in 1976, during the last swine flu scare.
I was sick as a dog for 2 days, longer than I had ever been sick with any flu, and I have not and will not take a flu vaccine today.
Assachusetts can kiss this!   :moon:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: seabelle on September 01, 2009, 08:32:23 AM
Massholes !

Follow the money, what Big Pharma lobbyist just struck a deal with someone's war chest ? 

I've never had a flu shot in my life ever since I found out more people die of side effects than the actual flu.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Wineslob on September 01, 2009, 09:32:16 AM
More people died of the "garden" variety of the flu than swine. I say something stinks................like Gardasil.................we KNOW your daughter is going to be a slut......................
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2009, 11:18:11 AM
I get the regular flu shot every year.  Work requires me to be in and out of lots of hospitals, so I take this precaution.  The only adverse reaction I have ever had is a sore arm for a day.  I've had colds and sinus infections, but have not had the flu in over 10 years.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Thor on September 01, 2009, 11:32:08 AM
I haven't had the flu vaccine since 2003. I also haven't had the flu since.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 01, 2009, 11:51:37 AM
Never had the flu vaccine myself and I am fine. As long as I take precautions, I should be fine for the most part.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2009, 12:18:37 PM
Never had the flu vaccine myself and I am fine. As long as I take precautions, I should be fine for the most part.
I would think you would be more concerned about some form of bird flu.   :-)  :bolt:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: thundley4 on September 01, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
I would think you would be more concerned about some form of bird flu.   :-)  :bolt:


Birds transmit the deadly avian flu, bunnies are cute and cuddly,  but the bunnies are evil?  :mental:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Thor on September 01, 2009, 12:37:29 PM
Bunnies transmit their fair share of parasites/ diseases. Lice, tularemia to name a couple.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: thundley4 on September 01, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Bunnies transmit their fair share of parasites/ diseases. Lice, tularemia to name a couple.

Sh!  Let's not give Ptarmy any more ammunition.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Thor on September 01, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
Personally, I'm growing tired of the continued hype of this H1N1 "outbreak" that's supposed to happen. First of all, how do they KNOW it's going to get worse?? We already know that the H1N1 strain was manufactured. To what end? Did they remanufacture it to make it worse?? Does the Govt intend on releasing a more virulent strain?? Why the imposition of the vaccines?? Even the scientists that developed the vaccine won't take it. Why do we suppose that would be?? Is it ineffective or .....

deadly??
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 01, 2009, 03:32:34 PM
Bunnies transmit their fair share of parasites/ diseases. Lice, tularemia to name a couple.

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Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 01, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
I've gotten shot with the flu vaccine for quite a few years.  The only problem I ever had was (last year) that I got a nasty 24-hour bug that I'm 110% sure was not related to the shot.  (Got the bug from The Heiress, who was just getting over it at the time.)
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: formerlurker on September 01, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
This is the biggest crock of nonsense...  what bill?   
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: formerlurker on September 01, 2009, 09:37:29 PM
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm

This is in extreme circumstances, vaccination will not be given to individuals whom it is deemed will cause harm to them, if refusal then the party may be isolated in least restrictive environment until they are cleared as uninfected.

I am reading this to be a large scale communicable disease or some type of bio-attack.   

90% of the doctors in MA think the swine flu is over-hyped-sky-is-falling-hysteria.     Much ado about nothing.

Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: rich_t on September 01, 2009, 10:42:43 PM
Cant we just give MA back to England?
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 01, 2009, 11:54:40 PM
I got a flu shot a few years ago and felt like crap for 2-3 days. I vowed never again. Like Thor, I haven't had the flu since then.

I read an article today that said the president won't make it mandatory but he "strongly recommends" that everyone gets the swine flu vaccine. You first, jerk. :whatever:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 02, 2009, 12:04:46 AM
I got a flu shot a few years ago and felt like crap for 2-3 days. I vowed never again. Like Thor, I haven't had the flu since then.

I read an article today that said the president won't make it mandatory but he "strongly recommends" that everyone gets the swine flu vaccine. You first, jerk. :whatever:

Note that this is the same vaccine that the folks in the lab engineering it won't take.  Tells me a lot right there.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: vesta111 on September 02, 2009, 05:12:49 AM
Note that this is the same vaccine that the folks in the lab engineering it won't take.  Tells me a lot right there.

First we heard that a few people in Mexico died from some kind of virus. A small village kind of isolated from medical centers where people  were dropping like flys.

Then pictures of thousands of people wearing masks all over the world.

The American CDC then comes out and tells us that they have no idea what this virus is or where it came from.  No idea what the symptoms were or how it was spread.

This virus seems to target individuals here and there but so far except for the village in Mexico no Clusters or pockets of the virus attacking a group of people in one area.

They say a virus will mutate and cause off shoots, like first cow pox then small pox, chicken pox on to Shingles and what not.

If the Scientists cannot nail down the source of this virus, how can they develop a vaccine to prevent it.?

The only thing I know about the flu shots I get each year is I have to sign a paper saying I am not allergic to eggs.   So like in Jurassic Park, using frog eggs to clone dinosaurs  we use bird eggs to make our vaccines------

I may as well hang garlic cloves over my doors and windows to prevent an unknown virus from entering my home.

Some say there are genetic markings that point to hog, bird and human markings.  How can this be ??

If we don't know what this virus is how besides washing our hands every 5 minutes  will prevent spreading the disease,?






Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: whiffleball on September 02, 2009, 07:33:55 AM
I hadn't had a flu shot since I got out of the Army, then got one at the V.A. in October '07.  Ended up with a hideous case of flu in February '08.  That was my last vaccine.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: debk on September 02, 2009, 10:27:41 AM
Alcoa TN shut down their schools starting today until next Tuesday, because so many kids are out sick. Not known how many are "swine flu"....just a whole bunch of sick kids.

Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: thundley4 on September 02, 2009, 10:30:14 AM
Alcoa TN shut down their schools starting today until next Tuesday, because so many kids are out sick. Not known how many are "swine flu"....just a whole bunch of sick kids.



So they'll be back in time for Dear Leaders speech?  :innocent:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 02, 2009, 11:06:20 AM
So they'll be back in time for Dear Leaders speech?  :innocent:
Probably not an issue there.  That part of the state is solidly rethuglican.   :-)
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: debk on September 03, 2009, 03:00:15 AM
Alcoa TN shut down their schools starting today until next Tuesday, because so many kids are out sick. Not known how many are "swine flu"....just a whole bunch of sick kids.



Alcoa is in Blount county....they shut the rest of the county's schools down today....still don't know how many of them are actually "swine flu"....but TV said that many of them have "flu-like symptoms".

This county is adjacent to mine....I was just over there shopping Monday.... :banghead:...Lowe's, Dolllar Tree, Hobby Lobby and Wal-mart.....all nice "germ-y" places.... :bawl:

Cannot get sick....doing a wedding for 90 (was originally 35-50) people on Saturday, finishing table decorations and grocery shopping tomorrow (uh...today) and cooking all day Friday. Next time I "volunteer" to do this....someone just needs to shoot me.... :censored:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: jinxmchue on September 04, 2009, 11:42:31 PM
Did you all catch the emergency powers granted to the Massachusetts governor and health commissioner?  "...to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property, isolate or quarantine people, to get and distribute meds and vaccines." Plus a list of "volunteers" to carry out these orders and $1000/day fine and prison for people who refuse to comply.

And guess what?  Now Maine declared a "state of emergency" because of the panic:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,33235.0.html

It's coming down the beltway, folks, like a steamroller without brakes and you're superglued to the pavement.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 05, 2009, 01:53:04 PM
Did you all catch the emergency powers granted to the Massachusetts governor and health commissioner?  "...to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property, isolate or quarantine people, to get and distribute meds and vaccines." Plus a list of "volunteers" to carry out these orders and $1000/day fine and prison for people who refuse to comply.

And guess what?  Now Maine declared a "state of emergency" because of the panic:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,33235.0.html

It's coming down the beltway, folks, like a steamroller without brakes and you're superglued to the pavement.
That's why we cling to our guns.
 :uhsure:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 05, 2009, 06:05:25 PM
I have had one and only one flu shot in 94 and almost died I was allergic to one of the ingredients so the doctor saw me after advised me to never attempt another one.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: thundley4 on September 05, 2009, 06:17:56 PM
I've never had a flu shot, and have never had the flu, or least haven't been sick enough to visit the doctor over it.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 06, 2009, 06:45:52 AM
I've never had a flu shot and really don't think I've had the flu but once....about 1975 and it was called the Port Chalmers Flu that year. I was sick as a dog for about 10 days.

I did have new-moan-ya at age 6 and almost died from it. Had to have a Tracheotomy so I could breath and they could suck the fluid out of my lungs. That was 58 years ago this Christmas and I still remember it all quite well.
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Chris_ on September 06, 2009, 07:15:07 AM
I've never had a flu shot and really don't think I've had the flu but once....about 1975 and it was called the Port Chalmers Flu that year. I was sick as a dog for about 10 days.

I did have new-moan-ya at age 6 and almost died from it. Had to have a Tracheotomy so I could breath and they could suck the fluid out of my lungs. That was 58 years ago this Christmas and I still remember it all quite well.
Dang yer old. 

:bolt:

 :rotf: :tongue:
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 06, 2009, 07:25:02 AM
Dang yer old. 

:bolt:

 :rotf: :tongue:

Yes I am.....and hope to stay here until it takes two to just hold me upright in my wheelchair. :-)
Title: Re: Refusing swine flu vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 per day fine
Post by: Peter3_1 on September 06, 2009, 01:29:34 PM
All this despite the FACT that REPUTABLE  MD's say the virus is mild. And that only those with compromised  immune syatems are in any danger above a mild discomfort.