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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on August 31, 2009, 08:16:26 AM
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-30-09 09:26 PM
Original message
CMS may cut up to 44% of Medicare payments for cancer treatments.... Updated at 1:57 AM
according to Bay News 9 in Tampa. Here we are talking about health care reform, and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are talking about huge cuts in cancer treatment for Medicare patients.
This will affect many millions of seniors.
From BayNews9:
Doctors: Reimbursement cuts may affect cancer treatment
BAY AREA (Bay News 9) -- The U.S. Department of Health is proposing a major reduction in reimbursement for cancer treatments. Recently the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services announced they're planning on cutting reimbursement rates for radiation cancer treatment -- in some cases by 44 percent.
"The radiation oncology community was shocked," said Dr. Robert Miller with Wellspring Oncology Cancer Center. "At the time our cost have gone up higher and higher, they were going to cut the reimbursement by almost in half."
Last year Wellspring spent more than $2 million to by a TomoTherapy machine. It targets only cancer cells while leaving healthy cells unharmed. Doctors fear with a cut in reimbursement rates many people will not be able to afford the best treatment possible.
"We are hoping that, there probably will be some cutback, but we are hoping more realistic -- 5 percent, 7 percent -- but not a dramatic 44 percent," Miller said.
I would love to see someone from this administration, specifically Kathleen Sebelius of HHS, address this issue pronto.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6427617
Gee and where did us crazy tea birthers get the idea that the govt would ration care?
:whatever:
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-30-09 09:37 PM
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1. jesus h christ-how ****ing stupid are the bureaucrats at hhs?
what department in the hhs decided to do this when the right-wing is saying obama is going to kill grandma?
god are these people stupid
Was nice of them to prove that us crazy racist morons are correct. :lmao:
RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-30-09 10:03 PM
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19. Doctors will steal every dime they can, just read one day's worth of any federal district court's
docket. And that's just the ones they've had the time and resources to catch and prosecute. I don't know where you think I've said anything about seniors. I guess if you want to just make things up, I can't stop you.
damn them doctors for not doing it for free.
girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-31-09 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #18
72. Bullshit.
Everyone knows there will be rationing. What we argue against is the idea that there will be "death panels".
It isn't possible to have a system with no rationing. Why is it wrong and evil when the government does it, but perfectly acceptable when private insurers do it? That is the point DUers have made over and over. You are simply wrong.
So they will be lollipop and rainbow panels that deny health care then. :whatever:
So its evil that insurance companies ration but fine when the govt will do so.
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-30-09 10:12 PM
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22. This is going to be a PR nightmare for our Democrats right now. Updated at 1:57 AM
The folks who are yelling about death panels and death books will be out in force.
Nothing like having a point proven. Even you DUmp monkeys can not refute this point anymore.
What I find fascinating is all the DUmp monkeys are bitching about this yet they support everyone being forced onto the same system.
Clearly the govt system is failing and these idiots think that expanding it will help. :banghead:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6427617
Gee and where did us crazy tea birthers get the idea that the govt would ration care?
:whatever:
Social Security and MediCare are getting cut by Dems, Obama wants them denied medical care..... no wonder the AARP supports Obama.... hey I think Seniors are going to have start a new group
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Social Security and MediCare are getting cut by Dems, Obama wants them denied medical care..... no wonder the AARP supports Obama.... hey I think Seniors are going to have start a new group
And they wonder why we don't trust Obama for health care.
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"what department in the hhs decided to do this when the right-wing is saying obama is going to kill grandma?"
Yeah, DUmmies, you should have at least waited until it passed to tell the DUmber DUmmies that you were going to kill grandma.
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0Bama has said all along that some saving were going to come from cuts to Medicare. Why are the DUmmies upset if 0Bama is going to do what he said for a change?
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SS going down
MediCare, cut cut cut as premiums are hiked
ObamaCare, you too old to live a "life worth living"
3 good reasons for old people to dump the AARP permanently
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0Bama has said all along that some saving were going to come from cuts to Medicare. Why are the DUmmies upset if 0Bama is going to do what he said for a change?
shhhh don't confuse them with facts.
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0Bama has said all along that some saving were going to come from cuts to Medicare. Why are the DUmmies upset if 0Bama is going to do what he said for a change?
Well, yes.
One wonders about the thought processes, if any, of the primitives.
Bo said he was going to cut.
What part of that message don't the primitives understand?
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girl gone mad
Why is it wrong and evil when the government does it, but perfectly acceptable when private insurers do it? That is the point DUers have made over and over.
When the gov't says no, you have no legal recourse. With private insurers you do. Big difference. IOW's the point pimitives have been making over and over is that gov't should be the decider of one's health and not the individual. Glad you finally admitted it.
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Well, yes.
One wonders about the thought processes, if any, of the primitives.
Bo said he was going to cut.
What part of that message don't the primitives understand?
Heck most of them think Obama's health care will be free. :whatever:
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Heck most of them think Obama's health care will be free. :whatever:
Well, it is true that 0Bama does get free health care, and he gets the best available. :-) We on the other hand will get socialized medicine and all that it entails.
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Well, it is true that 0Bama does get free health care, and he gets the best available. :-) We on the other hand will get socialized medicine and all that it entails.
WE are paying for it though. Hell he has a doc and an ambulance that follows him around.
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1 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-31-09 08:12 AM
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81. if we are holding up medicare as the model for goverment run healthcare...
this doesn't exactly show it in a light that will be looked upon favorably, does it?
Reality sucks.
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Well, yes.
One wonders about the thought processes, if any, of the primitives.
Bo said he was going to cut.
What part of that message don't the primitives understand?
In their deluded mindset of "gimme gimme" they will always believe that they will be exempted from the negative reality of things.
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Notice, most of the outrage is that the tea birthers can use this to back up their statements.
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Notice, most of the outrage is that the tea birthers can use this to back up their statements.
because we can, and will...
IOW, the TRUTH, IT BURNS!![/DUmode]
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because we can, and will...
IOW, the TRUTH, IT BURNS!![/DUmode]
Truth to TLG (the little goons) is like salt to a slug. Us normal folks need salt to survive, pour salt on a slug and it kills it.
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typical liberal stupidity
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Could it be there is a senior career bureaucrat somewhere in the bowels of HHS, who has worked his way up, through decades of service, to
the point where he's responsible for setting these reimbursement rates, who in the evenings and on weekends is a teabirthing freeper?
Better ammunition, at a better time, could not be had.