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Title: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 28, 2009, 10:43:26 PM
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Dinger  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-28-09 11:15 PM
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Something I Noticed In My Town
As far as flags being flows at half-staff . . . . Some place do it, some don't. Maybe the businesses that don't should have their pictures taken (documented) and then people can decided whether they want to shop there or not.

P.S. I noticed Perkins restaurant didn't have theirs at half staff. Neither did Pick'N Save grocery stores.
People need to show the proper respect.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6416010
We need a snitch line to report people who don't show the proper respect.
The proper respect is very important and these people aren't showing it.
We need that snitch line.


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Curtland1015  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-28-09 11:16 PM
1. My wife and I went to the Baseball Hall of Fame today. Their flag was at half-staff.
I was pretty happy about that.
 

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Dinger  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-28-09 11:20 PM
2. So Am I : )
ANd while certain businesses should be called out, some should be given credit where credit is due.

These DUmmies clearly recognize how widely detested the Kernnedy family is.

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gateley  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-28-09 11:26 PM
3. I think that just government offices/buildings, etc. are required to do that.
If a private business owner doesn't want to do it, it's his/her right I guess.

That's okay with the DUmp. They figure after a few years of Zero, there won't be any
private business owners anyway.
  
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Tangerine LaBamba  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-28-09 11:26 PM
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4. No, they don't -  
the Presidential proclamation covered only government installations.

Individuals have the choice, and that's exactly how it should be.
People need to understand the concept of choice, my friend, and how Presidential proclamations work.

Hmmm..DUmmy TLB is sounding a little trollish, don't you think?
I wonder how many times the alert button was pressed.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Rebel on August 28, 2009, 10:54:58 PM
Link?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Airwolf on August 28, 2009, 11:56:45 PM
If I remember private busniesses have no obligattion to lower the flag.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: AllosaursRus on August 29, 2009, 12:03:58 AM
Had to work a few hours at the depot today. They had their flag at half mast. Pissed me the hell off!
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Tantal on August 29, 2009, 12:14:12 AM
Would it have been in poor taste to run a case of scotch up the flagpole in his honor?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: crockspot on August 29, 2009, 01:59:36 AM
It's mind boggling how militant they have become about how we all must hop to and follow the proclamations of Obama, when they were in full revolt the last eight years.

Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on August 29, 2009, 02:24:10 AM
I fly the Colors 24/7. And properly lit at night per Regs. Half mast for that fat bastard? No way in Hell. May he rot in Hell. The time has way since past when we show respect for the enemy. This is War. Against that a$$ in the White House and his hook nosed Igor Rahm Emanuel.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 29, 2009, 04:55:13 AM
The Kennedy's and scotch remind me of an old joke.

Two old Scotsmen, the last of a group of WW1 vets, were drinking one day. They decided to buy a bottle of good Scotch and whichever one out lived the other would pour it over the grave of the departed one....After a bit more drinking, one asks the other, "McNamara, my old friend, you know us Scots are careful with our money." "Yes, we truly are", answered McNamara, "....but why did you bring that up?"  "Well, It's about that bottle of good Scotch. I'd certainly hate to see it go to waste. So, if I should be the last one left alive, would you mind terribly if I ran it thru my kidneys first?"
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 29, 2009, 08:44:46 AM
Would it have been in poor taste to run a case of scotch up the flagpole in his honor?

A bra and panties would be just as appropriate.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Lord Undies on August 29, 2009, 09:05:35 AM
Dead Ted was a two-bit embarrassment of a senator in a third rate state.  The rest of the US could not care less. 

What if Kay Bailey Hutchison died?  Should car dealerships in San Francisco lower their flags? 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: jukin on August 29, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
It's mind boggling how militant they have become about how we all must hop to and follow the proclamations of Obama, when they were in full revolt the last eight years.



Gets easier and easier to understand how Hitler came to power.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Ogre on August 29, 2009, 10:39:16 AM
I didn't place the flag at our house at half-staff either, so sue me DUmmies. :bird:  Better yet, go **** yourselves.

Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: dutch508 on August 29, 2009, 10:57:10 AM
Gets easier and easier to understand how Hitler came to power.

Hitler told them he would make their lives better. . . and he did for most. He gave them order where there was only chaos in their government. He told them they were the best.
 
Of course they thought he was great, at first. Even when things started to be rationed, they were still winning, in Poland, against France. It wasn't until 1942/3 that things started to be harder for the people, but event hen, they had suffered worse in WWI. In 1944 when the bombing campaigns of the allies started in, the people knew that they were going to lose, yet Hitler could still electrify them and they kept on believing. I mean, what else was there for them to do?

The State controlled everything. They couldn't just stop.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 29, 2009, 12:03:44 PM
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Maybe the businesses that don't should have their pictures taken (documented) and then people can decided whether they want to shop there or not.

Perhaps you could create a website for such a purpose.  I know of one that has taken off like gangbusters!

http://www.quarantinefoxnews.com/

 :lmao:
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 29, 2009, 12:10:01 PM
Perhaps you could create a website for such a purpose.  I know of one that has taken off like gangbusters!

http://www.quarantinefoxnews.com/

 :lmao:

It's flown straight into a mountain, too!
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Freeper on August 29, 2009, 01:02:24 PM
I can kind of see why all the fuss over Teddy like it or not he was a part of the Senate for all of our life times (for the most part). They can have their hero worship it will all be over soon anyway.

Although now when they yammer about healthcare his name will be mentioned until the end of time.  :whatever:
My thought is a dead rich white man passing will not change the fact that the health care bill is an abomination. Even if he not only invented sliced bread he invented a new knife to do it according to those bozos.

Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: TheSarge on August 29, 2009, 01:04:25 PM
I'm showing my respect the best way I can...by trying to keep my mouth shut about him.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Chris_ on August 29, 2009, 01:54:13 PM
I'm showing my respect the best way I can...by trying to keep my mouth shut about him.

Understood.....however, there are a few of us secretly plotting ways to make certain that the fertilizer on his grave is urea-based.........

doc
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: TheSarge on August 29, 2009, 01:58:27 PM
Understood.....however, there are a few of us secretly plotting ways to make certain that the fertilizer on his grave is urea-based.........

doc

Good luck on that...considering where he's buried.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 29, 2009, 01:59:19 PM
I'm showing my respect the best way I can...by trying to keep my mouth shut about him.

Same here.  I'm amazed I've been able to restrain myself.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Chris_ on August 29, 2009, 02:04:28 PM
Good luck on that...considering where he's buried.

Where there is a will.....there is a way.......

doc
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: USA4ME on August 29, 2009, 02:19:36 PM
It's a good thing the primitives expressed their anger about those who did not fly the flag at half-staff when Secretary Jack Kemp died, otherwise it would be too easy to make the case that they're hypocrites.

.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on August 29, 2009, 02:34:47 PM
Would it have been in poor taste to run a case of scotch up the flagpole in his honor?

How about a pair of trousers?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: TheSarge on August 29, 2009, 02:41:32 PM
Where there is a will.....there is a way.......

doc

LOL! well...then don't get mad when I tackle your @ss  :-)
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Chris_ on August 29, 2009, 02:45:39 PM
LOL! well...then don't get mad when I tackle your @ss  :-)

You'll never know I was there.......

doc
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on August 29, 2009, 02:49:26 PM
Hitler told them he would make their lives better. . . and he did for most. He gave them order where there was only chaos in their government. He told them they were the best.
 
Of course they thought he was great, at first. Even when things started to be rationed, they were still winning, in Poland, against France. It wasn't until 1942/3 that things started to be harder for the people, but event hen, they had suffered worse in WWI. In 1944 when the bombing campaigns of the allies started in, the people knew that they were going to lose, yet Hitler could still electrify them and they kept on believing. I mean, what else was there for them to do?

The State controlled everything. They couldn't just stop.

With all due respect, Hitler was a monster, period. His rise to power in his Nazi party was bloody, vicious. and calculated. His eugenic policies against his own people was only exceeded by his virile hatred of the Jews. Hitler kept power with the people's fear of his SS and Gestapo. The people chose their leaders poorly
and bear full responsibility for what was wrought on them. For a German to say "I was merely following orders." or "We had no idea of what that smoke was coming from those camps.", is a lie and a gross understatement of what each individual German knew. They were guilty.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on August 29, 2009, 02:50:32 PM
Were flags flown at half mast when Mary Jo died?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: franksolich on August 29, 2009, 02:52:56 PM
Were flags flown at half mast when Mary Jo died?

Good question.

I, a Great Plainsman, and thus far removed from the south, consider Strom Thurmond one of the Greatest Senators, and I don't recall flags were flown at half-mast when he died, either.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Lord Undies on August 29, 2009, 02:57:54 PM
Were flags flown at half mast when Mary Jo died?

No, but Ted's zipper was at half mast during the news conference the next day.  Does that count?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Duke Nukum on August 29, 2009, 02:59:40 PM
He was a freaking Senator, who the hell cares?  A senator is one rung below bottom feeder.  There is a reason nobody has ever authored a book entitled "Great Senators in US History."  
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Chris_ on August 29, 2009, 03:02:35 PM
He was a freaking Senator, who the hell cares?  A senator is one rung below bottom feeder.  There is a reason nobody has ever authored a book entitled "Great Senators in US History."  

For the same reason there is no book entitled "Great Moderates in American History"........

doc
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 29, 2009, 03:35:08 PM
Spitting on his casket and throwing poo at the hearse and peeing on his grave would be showing the respect he deserves.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: TheSarge on August 29, 2009, 04:58:52 PM
Spitting on his casket and throwing poo at the hearse and peeing on his grave would be showing the respect he deserves.

First two yes...third one..ummm...nope.  Don't care how much the man is despised...that's hallowed ground.  James Earl Jones found out the hard way what happens when you don't follow the rules during the filming of Gardens Of Stone.

He's now banned from ANC for life.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 29, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
First two yes...third one..ummm...nope.  Don't care how much the man is despised...that's hallowed ground.  James Earl Jones found out the hard way what happens when you don't follow the rules during the filming of Gardens Of Stone.

He's now banned from ANC for life.

I forgot where they buried him, I thought he was going to be buried at the distillery
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: TheSarge on August 29, 2009, 05:12:02 PM
I forgot where they buried him, I thought he was going to be buried at the distillery

The Kennedy's and the Jack Daniels Distillery couldn't agree on a date.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: crockspot on August 29, 2009, 06:41:35 PM
First two yes...third one..ummm...nope.  Don't care how much the man is despised...that's hallowed ground.  James Earl Jones found out the hard way what happens when you don't follow the rules during the filming of Gardens Of Stone.

He's now banned from ANC for life.

You have a link for that? I never heard about that, and couldn't find anything on google.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: TheSarge on August 29, 2009, 09:34:45 PM
You have a link for that? I never heard about that, and couldn't find anything on google.

I'll talk to my contact at ANC when I go back to work.  But the story is that during the filming of Gardens of Stone...Jones went behind a tree to take a leak during a break in filming.  Word got back to John Metzler who runs ANC and he banned him for life.

I've personally chewed out soldiers for spitting on the ground during company and Regimental runs before.

The only being allowed to relieve themselves in ANC are the Caisson Platoon horses  :-)
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 30, 2009, 05:00:06 AM
I'll talk to my contact at ANC when I go back to work.  But the story is that during the filming of Gardens of Stone...Jones went behind a tree to take a leak during a break in filming.  Word got back to John Metzler who runs ANC and he banned him for life.

I've personally chewed out soldiers for spitting on the ground during company and Regimental runs before.

The only being allowed to relieve themselves in ANC are the Caisson Platoon horses  :-)

I think that the other local wildlife would be exempt, Tx. ;)
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: vesta111 on August 30, 2009, 07:54:55 AM
Hitler told them he would make their lives better. . . and he did for most. He gave them order where there was only chaos in their government. He told them they were the best.
 
Of course they thought he was great, at first. Even when things started to be rationed, they were still winning, in Poland, against France. It wasn't until 1942/3 that things started to be harder for the people, but event hen, they had suffered worse in WWI. In 1944 when the bombing campaigns of the allies started in, the people knew that they were going to lose, yet Hitler could still electrify them and they kept on believing. I mean, what else was there for them to do?

The State controlled everything. They couldn't just stop.

I whole heatedly agree with you, Dutch. 

I do love the old diary's of the citizens of Germany in that era.  As I do not speak German or Yiddish I have to read those that has been translated into English.

The Christian girls 8-14 interest  me as they were so optimists about the future. Scared  all the time but were unguarded in their diary's.

It is odd what history was fiddled with after the war.


We all knew about the Jews, Gypsy's, Jehovah Witnesses , Homosexuals and Free Thinkers, but politics hides the thousands of Communists that were in the mix

 When I nursed in a Nursing home that catered to Jewish Patients, There all ways seem to be a a few elderly woman who had chosen not to marry from the old country. Those with little family were a gold mine of information about them growing up in Germany.

With little to no visitors and only the past, no future ,these woman who had never spoken a word about their lives to family, now seem driven to tell their story before they died.

The large cities and small towns were in the same fix. The last 18 months of the war it is difficult to imagine the starvation of the people.

I have heard it said from survivors of the camps and normal civilians that once Hitler was in power it was less then a year before the Catholic Church was trying to warn their people to keep their eyes open, the church went so far as to meet in secrete with the local Rabies.

At first the people had respect for their leader but now that respect was turning to fear. The German protestants just sat back and waited  not worrying about anything.

When Hitler was in town all schools were closed, unless you were in a hopital everyone in town had better be there to greet him. The news filmed reports of that time show thousands of people that had no choice but to cry for joy to see the man who was going to save them.

 It takes baby steps you know how to catch a deer with bare hands. Hate must be built on bad experiences to get a foot hold.  When there are no bad experiences in the past then one has to be made for you to show you the light.

  When the news of a son killed on the Russian front, the police would mention, out of the blue ,that it was the Jews that started all this and didn't they have Jewish neighbors,

Humane nature, by 10 o'clock that night a deranged grieving family would  have broken the windows in every Jewish household on their street.

By the time the camps were put into operation the people were scared out of their minds over, What to or not to do so as not get arrested and dragged off like their neighbors.

 The people were so afraid of their own country when the bombing began the Germans must have felt the world hated them and it was all the Jews fault.

If history is to happen again then we must be on guard for who will be scape goats.  We will all hear some grumbling about some OTHER people, may take 22-18 months to get us pissed as heck over what ever segment of society starts making us go hungry or interfears in our lives. 

It just may well be you or I that gets the dubious honor to take the blame for all the suffering that is to come.



 



 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: delilahmused on August 30, 2009, 11:57:23 AM
The guy was a senator from a small state on the east coast who mostly turned his elitist nose up at people like me. I'm clear across the country and he wasn't my representative. I'm sad for the family, but for heaven's sake, some people need to get a grip. The whole country should properly mourn national leaders, Kennedy should be mourned by his family and the people of Massachusetts.

Still, perhaps we could all agree on a more fitting tribute. There's got to be a few of those cash for clunkers cars around. I say tie an empty bottle of bourbon to the antennas and drive them off a bridge with a Mary Jo look alike blow up doll in the passenger seat. I'm sorry for his family and those who loved him, but nothing he did could make up for taking a life in such a crass way. What contempt he must've had for that poor girl, she wasn't even an afterthought. What kind of a man does that?

Cindie
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss People Who Don't Show Proper Respect For Dead Ted
Post by: Carl on August 30, 2009, 02:31:36 PM
The guy was a senator from a small state on the east coast who mostly turned his elitist nose up at people like me. I'm clear across the country and he wasn't my representative. I'm sad for the family, but for heaven's sake, some people need to get a grip. The whole country should properly mourn national leaders, Kennedy should be mourned by his family and the people of Massachusetts.

Still, perhaps we could all agree on a more fitting tribute. There's got to be a few of those cash for clunkers cars around. I say tie an empty bottle of bourbon to the antennas and drive them off a bridge with a Mary Jo look alike blow up doll in the passenger seat. I'm sorry for his family and those who loved him, but nothing he did could make up for taking a life in such a crass way. What contempt he must've had for that poor girl, she wasn't even an afterthought. What kind of a man does that?

Cindie

Let me add if I might... "and continued to do so for 40 years after her death"

The things this man said regarding his supposed respect for womens rights in light of the life he lived is just sickening.