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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on August 24, 2009, 12:00:51 PM
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 06:38 AM
linkiezOriginal message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x248674)
So, we're willing to spill more blood on the Altar of the Sacred Second Amendment.
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 06:39 AM by MadHound
Question, which countries in the world allow a person with a gun within shooting range, even long shooting range, of their leader?
Only the US.
Apparently we're willing to risk spilling innocent blood so that a few cranks can exercise their Constitutional right to carry a gun in the presence of the president. Sorry, but this is stupidity. Not just because you're risking the life of the President, but more likely, you're risking the lives of innocent bystanders. Sooner or later one of these idiots with a gun is going to fire it, and once again we'll water the Altar of the Second Amendment with the blood of innocents.
I don't give a damn about states' rights,etc. There should be no legal reason for people to carry a gun in the presence of the President, there's simply too much potential for violence and insanity.
And we have a winner! The DUmpmonkie says exactly what they think, even if they didn't know it! Total control of the people is what they want. Nothing less.
gorfle (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #10
24. You want a civil war?
Yeah, I think the time is coming soon when we have to put an end to the sacred 2nd.
Just try it. All the people currently satisfied to just carry them around as a show of force will turn to real force.
It is insane to believe that owning a gun will somehow prevent government tyranny.
Tell that to the Vietnamese, the Afghans, the Mogadishus, and the Iraqis.
:cheersmate:
billh58 (226 posts) Tue Aug-18-09 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. LOL!
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 03:50 PM by billh58
Shouldn't "waving a gun in someone" be called illegal entry?...
To me, and to the majority of sensible people in this country, simply standing next to me and my family at a public event wearing a loaded weapon is a senseless "in your face" statement, and the equivalent of "waving it in my face."
And yes, I know all of the "technical" terms for what, and what is not, legal. Gun nuts are using the 2nd Amendment, and their "rights" to be confrontational -- period. That, in and of itself, already shows poor judgment, so why should I believe that they would show better judgment in the use of their shiny guns?
You, and the NRA die-hards who support this insane display of deadly force, are doing absolutely nothing to further your fringe group cause for open carry. Those places where it is "legal" may be forced to reconsider if you manage to intimidate and piss off enough mainstream Americans.
Why can you not take yes for an answer, and drop the pretense that you are part of anything even resembling a "well-regulated" militia," or contributing the "security of a free State?"
So, even in obeying the law, we offend the DUmpmonkiez and should be arrested.
Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
46. Set up a "right to carry arms" zone...
much like the "free speech" zones Bush used to corral the protesters. One Constitutional right is just as important as the other.
Why not handle it in the same way?
Um...it was Bill Clinton and the DNC who set up free speach zones.
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Hey, DUmmie!
(http://www.tomeaker.com/Guns/MolonLabe_s.jpg)
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WTF is are "Mogadishus"?
Also, the 2nd Amendment has not a damn thing to do with "State's Rights", you goofy sumbitch.
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WTF is are "Mogadishus"?
Also, the 2nd Amendment has not a damn thing to do with "State's Rights", you goofy sumbitch.
Somalis
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Question, which countries in the world allow a person with a gun within shooting range, even long shooting range, of their leader?
Only the US.
On what basis does he conclude that only the U.S. allows that? Or, as is usual for the DUmp, did he pull the answer out of his ass?
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WTF is are "Mogadishus"?
Also, the 2nd Amendment has not a damn thing to do with "State's Rights", you goofy sumbitch.
I'm assuming Mogadishus are what uneducated DUmmies call Somalis ::)
The 2nd Amendment is actually one of the few rights in the bill of rights that need not be upheld by the states. The states are not allow to infringe on a number of the other rights, but thus far, the supreme court has not yet decided that states must abide by the 2nd amendment.
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Somalis
I know what Somalis are. Just wondering what the hell the DUmbass is talking about.
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I know what Somalis are. Just wondering what the hell the DUmbass is talking about.
Oh, heh.
Maybe Mogadishus live in one of those extra 7 states.
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I'm assuming Mogadishus are what uneducated DUmmies call Somalis ::)
The 2nd Amendment is actually one of the few rights in the bill of rights that need not be upheld by the states. The states are not allow to infringe on a number of the other rights, but thus far, the supreme court has not yet decided that states must abide by the 2nd amendment.
Kind of strange that the Federal courts have ruled that the "separation of church and state" applies to state and local governments, but have not applied the RTKBA to other government entities yet.
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Hey, DUmmie!
(http://www.tomeaker.com/Guns/MolonLabe_s.jpg)
I like that pic.
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Another Government educated asshat that wants rights for them but not for thee.Try and make a grab for the guns we rightfully own. We probably need to have another go at a war between the states.
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I don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan.
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I like that pic.
Enjoy.
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/main.php
http://volkstudio.com/
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Another Government educated asshat that wants rights for them but not for thee.Try and make a grab for the guns we rightfully own. We probably need to have another go at a war between the states.
A bunch of us still prefer the term "War of Northern Aggresion". :beathorse:
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I don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan.
:rotf:
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Hey, DUmmie!
(http://www.tomeaker.com/Guns/MolonLabe_s.jpg)
I like that pic.
I stoled that pic. Thank-you sir.
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I don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan.
I'm confused... what does Michigan have to do with this?
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When President William McKinley was shot, VP Teddy Roosevelt was here on my island giving a speech to the Vermont Fish and Game League. The VP was quickly whisked off the island, under the protection of a posse of heavily armed locals, and rode to Buffalo, where he was sworn in as President by a Justice of the Peace that they scrounged up.
Teddy didn't seem to have a problem with Americans with guns around him. In fact, I think he was quite grateful.
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Teddy didn't seem to have a problem with Americans with guns around him. In fact, I think he was quite grateful.
Teddy, would have made it a law for every American to have a gun if he could have! If not for the Big Ted, many national forests would never have existed!
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I'm confused... what does Michigan have to do with this?
His screen name translated is Go Ohio State. Think Bo against Woody. U of M against OSU. Oh how I hate Ohio State. :-)
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I would love to ask this dipwad: if you don't give a damn about my expressly written right to defend myself and my community why should I give a ptarmigan's rear end about your ephemeral right to food, housing, education, healthcare etc?
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I would love to ask this dipwad: if you don't give a damn about my expressly written right to defend myself and my community why should I give a ptarmigan's rear end about your ephemeral right to food, housing, education, healthcare etc, on my nickel?
Fixed :II:
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I've been on here only a few days, and I've wondered why this forum takes snippets from the democratic underground's forum and brings them here and why those who do don't just go there instead.
I've realized they don't believe in free speech and block members of dissenting political views (am I right?).
Sh1t like that post from MadDog NEEDS to be debated. To have opinions like that floated to nothing but nodding heads and yes-men ... dangerous, man.
How can they expect to be taken seriously when they condone and practice censorship of free speech?
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I've been on here only a few days, and I've wondered why this forum takes snippets from the democratic underground's forum and brings them here and why those who do don't just go there instead.
I've realized they don't believe in free speech and block members of dissenting political views (am I right?).
Sh1t like that post from MadDog NEEDS to be debated. To have opinions like that floated to nothing but nodding heads and yes-men ... dangerous, man.
How can they expect to be taken seriously when they condone and practice censorship of free speech?
You would be banned so fast for posting a dissenting view, you'd start to believe in Warp drive.
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I've been on here only a few days, and I've wondered why this forum takes snippets from the democratic underground's forum and brings them here and why those who do don't just go there instead.
I've realized they don't believe in free speech and block members of dissenting political views (am I right?).
That's why.
How long do you imagine franksolich, a centrist, for God's sake (see the "political compass test" in the DUmping Ground for reference), would last on Skins's island?
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Any dissent at DemocratUnderground is met with the siren call of dozens of Alert buttons being mashed simultaneously. The best DUmmies can do is leave their calling card of "Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay."
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You would be banned so fast for posting a dissenting view, you'd start to believe in Warp drive.
Well actually I do believe in Warp drive. :hyper:
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Well actually I do believe in Warp drive. :hyper:
There was a proposal, shortly after conservtivecave came into being, to make the DUmpster a "ban free" zone so as to encourage lurking primitives to register and post here, but the idea was dropped after it was determined the primitives are too scared to register and post here.
I have no idea why the primitives are so scared; we're nice people.
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I have no idea why the primitives are so scared; we're nice people.
The DUmmies aren't. In fact the DUmmies are so completely at a loss when actually coming face to face with nice people that their paranoia takes over, and they believe that the nice people are being nice so as to be patronizing, because it's all they (the DUmmies)know.
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make the DUmpster a "ban free" zone so as to encourage lurking primitives to register and post here,
As long as that policy did not apply to ronbots.
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As long as that policy did not apply to ronbots.
This was a long time ago, but I don't believe the ronbots were in the argument; only the primitives; there was a time when there was much concern, much worry, that the DUmpster wasn't going to bring traffic, and we were desperately trying to figure out what to do about it.
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Well actually I do believe in Warp drive. :hyper:
Have they explained the requirement for pictures?
If you are in a Klingon outfit you get a special discount.
:-)
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As long as that policy did not apply to ronbots.
:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: A curse upon you for even peaking that name. :-)
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:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: A curse upon you for even peaking that name. :-)
My sentiments EXACTLY!
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That's why.
How long do you imagine franksolich, a centrist, for God's sake (see the "political compass test" in the DUmping Ground for reference), would last on Skins's island?
Hell, they ban true and blue DEMOCRATS from that hellhole who dissent.
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I've been on here only a few days, and I've wondered why this forum takes snippets from the democratic underground's forum and brings them here and why those who do don't just go there instead.
I've realized they don't believe in free speech and block members of dissenting political views (am I right?).
Sh1t like that post from MadDog NEEDS to be debated. To have opinions like that floated to nothing but nodding heads and yes-men ... dangerous, man.
How can they expect to be taken seriously when they condone and practice censorship of free speech?
A lot of us have gone over there just to be banned and scrubbed from existence. $kimmer does not tolerate any views contrary to his own.
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Hell, they ban true and blue DEMOCRATS from that hellhole who dissent.
Oh yeah.
One wonders how long the blue Senator from Nebraska, Ben Nelson, would last there.
And he's got some pretty impressive credentials as a liberal.
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A lot of us have gone over there just to be banned and scrubbed from existence. $kimmer does not tolerate any views contrary to his own.
I got to 3 posts on my 1st mole. :evillaugh:
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I got to 3 posts on my 1st mole. :evillaugh:
I've given them enough grief, they have my IP logged! Bwahahahahahahahaha! I luv, luv, luv it!!
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I've been on here only a few days, and I've wondered why this forum takes snippets from the democratic underground's forum and brings them here and why those who do don't just go there instead.
I've realized they don't believe in free speech and block members of dissenting political views (am I right?).
Sh1t like that post from MadDog NEEDS to be debated. To have opinions like that floated to nothing but nodding heads and yes-men ... dangerous, man.
How can they expect to be taken seriously when they condone and practice censorship of free speech?
As you have figured out,.That is DU in total. They never will allow anyone they do not like to have a say on their site. You can't even sign up. Unlike there we allow them to show off their ignorance and arrogance