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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 23, 2009, 06:16:27 PM
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Oh my.
tj2001 (678 posts) Sun Aug-23-09 04:28 PM
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Obama's surge?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0823/p02s01-usmi.html
Twice on Sunday morning – and many times before that – America's top military officer, Adm. Mike Mullen, was asked point blank whether the United States is going to send more troops to Afghanistan. Twice, he refused to give a definitive answer.
The answer appears clear. A variety of media reports have suggested that the new US commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, will ask for more troops, perhaps within the coming month. Moreover, Mullen himself said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday that the situation in Afghanistan was "serious and deteriorating."
To be sure, any request for more troops will be met with frustration and perhaps even rebellion from Congress. It will also add to the strain on US forces. Yet there are other considerations behind Mullen's apparent coyness.
He hinted at them in a different interview on Sunday morning – on NBC's "Meet the Press": "In certain ways, we're stating anew" in Afghanistan, he said.
Given that this October will mark the eighth anniversary of American involvement in Afghanistan, that might appear a shocking statement. But Mullen intimated why, despite billions of dollars and thousands of lives lost, the past eight years have brought the US no closer to its goal of a stable Afghanistan that can deny Al Qaeda refuge.
femmocrat (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 04:31 PM
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1. That makes me so sad. I was hoping you were reporting on a surge in his poll numbers.....
Didn't General Wes Clark recently call it Obama's Vietnam?
jimshoes (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 04:34 PM
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2. That's not the goal of the Afghan war, that's why.
The only reason we're still there is to fatten the coffers of the military hardware suppliers. And after 8 years of operating that money pit, we're no safer or closer to being safer. Heads should roll for this.
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 05:42 PM
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5. Something tells me your participation on this discussion board will be short-lived.
And that makes me so sad, NOT.
You're so ****ing stupid that you couldn't hide your true self for more than five posts?
"get real dumbacrats .... the world ain't safe with y'all in office" Your intelligence isn't worth a fart in the wind and your ability to communicate using the written word is worth less than that.
liberaltrucker (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 05:44 PM
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6. Extra pepperoni on that pizza?
buh-bye!
kentuck (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 05:45 PM
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7. Vietnam 1965
We need more troops, the generals said. By 1968, we had 548,000, including yours truly, in the country.
liberaltrucker (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 05:52 PM
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8. Those who fail to learn the lessons of history........
Glad you made it back. So did my older brother.
kentuck (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 06:01 PM
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9. Thanks...
A lot of guys had it much worse than I. I spent Tet and my 21st birthday in the Nam.
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Methinks that the Obamessiah's poll numbers will come up only after he is out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue forever. Oh, about January 27th, 2013.
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 05:45 PM
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7. Vietnam 1965
We need more troops, the generals said. By 1968, we had 548,000, including yours truly, in the country.
Well, that fact alone goes a long way to explaining our ultimate failure there.
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Well, that fact alone goes a long way to explaining our ultimate failure there.
Yep, drafted DUmmies to smoked up or to lazy to run to Canada.
....and that's why the DUmmies want to start up the draft again, to hamstring the military.
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zero's Rasmussen index hit negative 14 on Sunday! It's now neg 12. A real bomb.
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QUAGMIRE!!!!111111!!!!111!!
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-23-09 04:34 PM
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2. That's not the goal of the Afghan war, that's why.
The only reason we're still there is to fatten the coffers of the military hardware suppliers. And after 8 years of operating that money pit, we're no safer or closer to being safer. Heads should roll for this.
Now hang on a second here.
Do I not constantly hear the left harping on that there is no real danger from Islamic Terrorists ?
Are they not the ones that snicker and wink behind their hands whenever some has the temerity to suggest that terrorism actually presents a very real threat ?
Now we have a leftist suggesting that 'we're no closer to being safer" - are they so messed up in the head that the only time they'll recognize a threat is when it suits their ever changing agenda ?
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are they so messed up in the head that the only time they'll recognize a threat is when it suits their ever changing agenda ?
Yes. Next question . . .