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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on August 21, 2009, 07:42:30 PM
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 08:03 PM
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Rep. Nadler (D): Obama Violating Law By Not Investigating Bush Updated at 8:47 PM
WASHINGTON - Even as the issue of torture appears likely to burst back onto the public agenda next week -- thanks to the much anticipated release of an internal CIA report -- one of the most progressive voices in Congress is arguing that the Obama White House has a legal obligation to investigate the Bush torture legacy.
New York Congressman Jerry Nadler, a senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, told the Huffington Post that he believed that President Obama would be breaking the law if he decided to oppose launching investigation into the authorization of torture.
New York Congressman Jerry Nadler, a senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, told the Huffington Post that he believed that President Obama would be breaking the law if he decided to oppose launching investigation into the authorization of torture.
"If they follow the law they have no choice," Nadler said in an interview this past weekend.
The logic, for Nadler, is straightforward. As a signatory of the convention against torture, and as a result of the anti-torture act of 1996, the United States government is obligated to investigate accusations of torture when they occur in its jurisdiction.
The alternative, Nadler said, "would be violating the law. They would be not upholding the law; they would be violating it."
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/08/21-7
Rule of law means holding government accountable. Even if it "inconveniences" your political agenda - its not optional. It's required as part of your oath of office, Mr. President.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6365522
Maybe he can borrow Conyer's broom closet for hearings on this. :lmao:
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 08:18 PM
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3. Rep. Nadler could get the ball rolling by filing articles of impeachment against Bush/Cheney
Yes they can still be impeached after they have left office. And they should be.
Don
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: good luck on that one.
Geez you guys have all 3 houses of govt now and you are still trying to chimpeach.
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That fat congressman hasn't assumed room temperature yet? He could fit three Teddy Kennedy's into one of his pair of pants. Must have some really good health care.
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Now they just want to change the subject - really really bad.
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Geez you guys have all 3 houses of govt now and you are still trying to chimpeach.
Hey they've got to distract the little goons somehow so they won't notice what an utter failure the Libs have been since '06.
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Hey they've got to distract the little goons somehow so they won't notice what an utter failure the Libs have been since the beginning of time
fixored. :-)
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There is now law about investigating past presidents. That is opening a can of worms.
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There is now law about investigating past presidents. That is opening a can of worms.
I think we need to investigate what 0Bama told Slick Willie to promise to NK, to get Gore's girls out.
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When Eric Holder mentioned something about "investigating the abuses of the Bush administration," you know that he didn't do that without the Obamessiah's blessing. It wouldn't surprise me if some career lawyer with the Justice Department pointed out that this would set a dangerous precedent, and that already (to that point) there had been actions which could be investigated and labeled as felonies committed by the Obamination, and they would be investigated by a future Republican administration.
Why do I say this? Because if the idiot Nadler was the one to say this, it probably was without the blessing of the Obamessiah. And the silence from the Obamessiah's minions is deafening. Some people just don't get it.
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Hopey-Dopey was going to appoint a Bush Czar but Bill Clinton kept shouting me-me-me so much until they had to just drop it. :-)
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When Eric Holder mentioned something about "investigating the abuses of the Bush administration," you know that he didn't do that without the Obamessiah's blessing. It wouldn't surprise me if some career lawyer with the Justice Department pointed out that this would set a dangerous precedent, and that already (to that point) there had been actions which could be investigated and labeled as felonies committed by the Obamination, and they would be investigated by a future Republican administration.
Why do I say this? Because if the idiot Nadler was the one to say this, it probably was without the blessing of the Obamessiah. And the silence from the Obamessiah's minions is deafening. Some people just don't get it.
The only problem is....is that those careerists at Justice...the same ones that think Bush needs to be impeached will see nothing wrong with anything Obama did during his tenure.
Libs do a good job of seeding the various departments with like minded thinkers that will survive no matter who is in office.
It's not the Libs that we can see that should worry us...it's the ones we don't see that will hurt us the most.
I'm seeing the same thing go on at the Pentagon.
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The only problem is....is that those careerists at Justice...the same ones that think Bush needs to be impeached will see nothing wrong with anything Obama did during his tenure.
Libs do a good job of seeding the various departments with like minded thinkers that will survive no matter who is in office.
It's not the Libs that we can see that should worry us...it's the ones we don't see that will hurt us the most.
I'm seeing the same thing go on at the Pentagon.
I can see your point. However, if one of those carrerists' jobs were on the line (as in, Do I start the investigation or not?), I would think that they would have the integrity to actually do it. Especially if they were told that they could spark an uprising by good and honest people in this country, with them being on the receiving end of any "justice," if they were to fail.
That's where I think this country is headed, Tx.
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New York Congressman Jerry Nadler, a senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, told the Huffington Post
That's all you need to read, one fat moron talking to his kook Lib base.