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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 21, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6361145
Oh my.
The bluegrass primitive, who has NOT donated to Skins's island:
kentuck (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:42 AM
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A simple question for the American people?
Where do you think we would be today if we had not gone through the last eight years of George W Bush and the Republican Party rule?
Would we be wringing our hands about the huge debt? After all, George W Bush inherited a huge surplus, predicted to be trillions of dollars at this time in the future. But, he convinced us that this money belonged to the people, not the government? And he was right, wasn't he?
We would not have put two wars and a huge Medicare program on the credit card. We would not have doubled the national debt. Many believe we would not have been involved in a "war on terror"?
What condition would our nation be in today if not for the Republicans and George W Bush?? Think about that seriously. Think of the damage these folks have done to our nation. And they want you to put them back in charge.
Oh, I dunno. I suspect that if Alphonse Capote Gore had succeeded in stealing Florida, we'd be speaking Arabic today, among other things.
The maternal wreaking primitive, who has NOT donated to Skins's island:
havocmom (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:46 AM
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1. That's a LTTE that should be in every paper in America
Thanks, kentuck. You did it again!
The mountain man primitive who, like all men, nightly pitches his tent one day's march closer to the mausoleum, and who apparently hasn't heard yet that increases in social security have been put on "hold" until 2012 now--and by the way, the mountain man primitive has NOT donated to Skins's island:
ThomWV (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 09:54 AM
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2. The credit bubble probably would have proceeded - I think, not sure what else
I think the problems with credit, housing (overbuilding both in numbers and size), and probably the auto industry would have happened under President Gore. I doubt that we'd be seeing a health care reform debate, but I also think that there would have been substantial regulatory reform of the insurance industry over the missing years so we wouldn't be in the sinking ship we now enjoy. North Korea would not have been a problem because Clinton's deal for fuel oil in trade for shut down reactors would have continued. Of course (I hope) we wouldn't have the Patriot Act - and that alone would be a wonderful thing, but I think we'd still be wire-tapped illegally.
Science would have a higher place, education would have been reformed. Global warming and attendant earth-care concerns would be getting a lot more press. Strangely enough I think the Republican Party would be both stronger than it is now but also more sensible in that the real wing-nuts would never have emerged let alone taken control of the Party.
"Earth-Care."
kentuck (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 10:00 AM
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3. Perhaps..
I think some regulations would have been kept under the Democrats and not simply thrown to the wind. There would have been somewhat more discipline in the markets. Although it would have been bad when the bubble burst, it would not have been as catastrophic or as expensive as it has been, in my opinion.
unpossibles (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-21-09 10:07 AM
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4. true, but a lot of the deregulations may not have happened or at least not as badly. I'm thinking specifically of the energy policy and the Enron debacle, both of which lead to other problems.
I do agree that some of these things have been years in the making, but I think the GOP's "let it burn to show how inefficient it is" attitude made things far worse.
Oh, I dunno.
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Hell they couldn't predict how Obama was going to rule now they wanna speculate if Gore had been in office. :lmao:
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Hell they couldn't predict how Obama was going to rule now they wanna speculate if Gore had been in office. :lmao:
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt . . .
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DUmmies talking about nuts taking control of a party!!
Actually, "earth care" would have been much less an issue if Algore had won in 2000.
He would have been too busy to invent global warming, and ineligible to profit from it.
And it's interesting to see the DUmmies learning from DUmmy ThomWV's analysis of what might have been.
Remember, this is a guy who pulls his own teeth with pliers, and wears them around his neck.
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Where do you think we would be today if we had not gone through the last eight years of George W Bush and the Republican Party rule?
Banging our heads on the ground five times a day towards Mecca and farther down the road towards a Socialist nightmare.
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If Al Gore had been elected, we would have been in deepening recession by 2002-2004 even without the crazed Muslims, dragging us into Kyoto compliance would've seen to that.
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It seems they have gone back to their games of Fantasy Politics - With President Gore leading the charge. I can play along too.
I also see that In fantasyland, nobody mentions 9/11/01 . Believe me, that would have happened.
I speculate that President Gore would have had a limpwristed response that emboldened terrorists to strike at least one more time, maybe twice.
So, I have nightmares about what might have been. Dreams ? .. not so much.