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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on August 20, 2009, 12:30:02 PM
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-20-09 12:58 PM
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My hairdresser this morning told me that she was "resigned to a government takeover of healthcare."
This is a person who votes the way the preacher tells her too. She had cancer at the same time I did and was lucky that her husband was able to keep their insurance when his company forced early retirement. Now she has Medicare, which is fine with her, but she is upset because she heard it will go bankrupt in 2 years and that's just the breaks because now she's finally eligible for it. And she's bought all the garbage about how the taxpayer will be paying for illegal aliens under any reform.
I spent what little time I had to spare explaining that rationing occurs now and more people are cut to maintain the profitability of insurance companies that receive services. She knows that. I also pointed out that if something doesn't happen and Medicare would disappear, it is likely that neither she or I would ever have any coverage if something happens to our husbands because of the type of preexisting conditions we have. She said she stays away from doctors now because she doesn't want to get caught owing anyone anything. So, I pointed out, she has begun rationing her own care.
I told her that if nothing is done, there will be neither coverage nor affordable care in the future for either one of us.
She nods, but says she still doesn't like it that the government will be taking over health care.
Maybe we're making headway in a perverse sort of way.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6353806
Hey dummy it isnt garbage that illegal aliens will get covered under this. Even if it isn't in the bill the SC will force us to cover them too.
Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-20-09 01:19 PM
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4. Next time maybe you can work on the government 'takeover' myth.
It's exasperating. People love their Medicare yet can't seem to get it through their heads that IT IS A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. Next time ask her is she afraid that the government will take over Medicare, and see what she says.
Oh yeah the govt has done such a bang up job with medicare that is going bankrupt. So we are supposed to believe that the govt that can't even run a program for a select group of Americans can successfully cover us all?
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Aug-20-09 01:20 PM
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5. the stupid is hard to overcome.
One problem is that most of the people who automatically follow the FUX etc. line is they have NO background or history of the health care issue. So they take the voice on the radio or TV to be accurate. Because for some reason most people believe that if it is on TV or radio IT IS TRUE!
So we would be smart if we took the voice on DU and automatically followed it? Because for some reason all DUers believe if its on DU it is the truth.
I love how the DUmmies think they know so much better than we do about what is good for us. :mental:
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I wonder if that beauty shop has a bouncer named Ty.
I apologize in advance if that reference is too opaque.
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I wonder if that beauty shop has a bouncer named Ty.
I apologize in advance if that reference is too opaque.
*snort* I had forgotten about Wee Willies buddy Ty :-)
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-20-09 01:19 PM
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4. Next time maybe you can work on the government 'takeover' myth.
It's exasperating. People love their Medicare yet can't seem to get it through their heads that IT IS A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. Next time ask her is she afraid that the government will take over Medicare, and see what she says.
Many if not all insurance companies will cease to cover you once you qualify for medicare so I doubt many have a choice.
Correct me if I am wrong on this please and insurance companies will continue to extend normal benefit policies after a person qualifies.
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"Many if not all insurance companies will cease to cover you once you qualify for medicare so I doubt many have a choice.
Correct me if I am wrong on this please and insurance companies will continue to extend normal benefit policies after a person qualifies."
Forgive me for not being able to figure out how to post your reference in the nifty blue box as this is my first contribution to this site.
If you are actively employed and carry insurance, the insurance you have is primary to Medicare, regardless of age.
If you are a retiree, with retiree benefits, Medicare will become primary, and your benefit plan would be secondary.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-20-09 12:58 PM
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My hairdresser this morning told me that she was "resigned to a government takeover of healthcare."
This is a person who votes the way the preacher tells her too. She had cancer at the same time I did and was lucky that her husband was able to keep their insurance when his company forced early retirement. Now she has Medicare, which is fine with her, but she is upset because she heard it will go bankrupt in 2 years and that's just the breaks because now she's finally eligible for it. And she's bought all the garbage about how the taxpayer will be paying for illegal aliens under any reform.
I spent what little time I had to spare explaining that rationing occurs now and more people are cut to maintain the profitability of insurance companies that receive services. She knows that. I also pointed out that if something doesn't happen and Medicare would disappear, it is likely that neither she or I would ever have any coverage if something happens to our husbands because of the type of preexisting conditions we have. She said she stays away from doctors now because she doesn't want to get caught owing anyone anything. So, I pointed out, she has begun rationing her own care.
I told her that if nothing is done, there will be neither coverage nor affordable care in the future for either one of us.
She nods, but says she still doesn't like it that the government will be taking over health care.
Iv'e seen bullshit "talking notes" before, but this crap takes the cake.
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Iv'e seen bullshit "talking notes" before, but this crap takes the cake.
With apology to Connie Francis and " lipstick on your collar"
"Skid marks on your skivies told a tale on you, skidmarks on your skivies told you had been untrue, theres the toilet paper, up there on the shelf , grow up you dirty bum learn to wipe yourself."
Sorry EX comes to mind here. Our favorite song.
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Meh - four bongs. Sad and uninspired.