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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on August 18, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 12:15 PM
stupidity found here.Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6336608)
Top 50 US War Criminals
Compiled below, in hopes that it may be of some assistance to Eric Holder, John Conyers, Patrick Leahy, active citizens, foreign courts, the International Criminal Court, law firms preparing civil suits, and local or state prosecutors with decency and nerve is a list of 50 top living U.S. war criminals. These are men and women who helped to launch wars of aggression or who have been complicit in lesser war crimes. These are not the lowest-ranking employees or troops who managed to stray from official criminal policies. These are the makers of those policies.
The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have seen the United States target civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, use antipersonnel weapons including cluster bombs in densely settled urban areas, use white phosphorous as a weapon, use depleted uranium weapons, employ a new version of napalm found in Mark 77 firebombs, engage in collective punishment of Iraqi civilian populations -- including by blocking roads, cutting electricity and water, destroying fuel stations, planting bombs in farm fields, demolishing houses, and plowing down orchards -- detain people without charge or legal process without the rights of prisoners of war, imprison children, torture, and murder.
The list below does not include those responsible for war crimes prior to 2001. Nor does it include those currently in power who are making themselves complicit by failing to prosecute or cease commission of these crimes. The list could be greatly expanded. It could also be narrowed. I would argue, however, that it presents a more reasonable starting place than Holder's reported proposal to investigate only CIA employees who failed to comply with criminal torture policies, of whom there are no doubt more than 50.
Click here for the list of 50 and how you can hold them accountable:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/warcriminals
Oh...this should be good...
1. John Yoo: Professor of Law at Boalt Hall School of Law in Berkeley, California, with house at 1241 Grizzly Peak Blvd., Berkeley, (but a lawyer with the Pennsylvania bar from which he should be disbarred and would be if enough people demanded it) counseled the White House on how to get away with war crimes, wrote this memo promoting presidential power to launch aggressive war, and claimed the power to decree that the federal statutes against torture, assault, maiming, and stalking do not apply to the military in the conduct of the war, and to announce a new definition of torture limiting it to acts causing intense pain or suffering equivalent to pain associated with serious physical injury so severe that death, organ failure or permanent damage resulting in loss of significant body functions will likely result. Yoo claimed in 2005 that a president has the right to enhance an interrogation by crushing the testicles of someone's child. Yoo has been confronted in his classroom: video, and defended by the Washington Post, and again confronted in the classroom.
Additional collaborators:
2. Robert J. Delahunty, Yoo colleague, should be disbarred in NY
3. Patrick F. Philbin, Yoo colleague, Deputy, should be disbarred in D.C. and MA
4. Jay Bybee: federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, headquartered in San Francisco, California (but Bybee based in Las Vegas), counseled the White House on how to get away with war crimes, including by helping Yoo draft the memo linked above. He signed not only torture memos but also a memo purporting to legalize illegal and unconstitutional wars. BYBEE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED. He works, among other places, at the James R. Browning Courthouse, 95 7th Street, San Francisco, CA 94103, -- This is a giant marble building in the center of the city represented in Congress by the Speaker of the House.
5. William J. "Jim" Haynes, II: was General Counsel to the Department of War ("Defense"). He is now Chief Corporate Counsel at the Chevron Corporate Office in San Ramon, California. He counseled the White House on how to get away with war crimes, including by drafting memos for Yoo. Works at Chevron Headquarters, 6001 Bollinger Canyon Road, San Ramon, CA 94583. Member of bar in GA, NC, DC.
More collaborators:
6. Major General (Ret.) Michael E. Dunlavey, (now Judge, Erie County Court, Common Pleas, Erie, PA
7. Diane Beaver, top military lawyer at Gitmo
8. Jack Landman Goldsmith, III, [the illegal transfer memo in March 2004], DoD General Counsel's Office at Pentagon
9. Ms. Eliana Davidson, International Law Division, Office of the General Counsel, Office of the Secretary of "Defense"
10. Colin Powell: strategic limited partner with Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield & Byers, a Silicon Valley venture capital firm, appears as a speaker in a series of motivational events called Get Motivated, board member of Revolution Health and of the Council on Foreign Relations, took part in White House meetings personally overseeing and approving torture by authorizing the use of specific torture techniques including waterboarding on specific people, lied to the United Nations about the grounds for war in a failed attempt to legalize a war of aggression, and was in fact a leading liar in making the false case for an illegal war of aggression.
Now, the list is by state and not in numeral order, so GWB doesn't make the top ten, which is sure to piss off the leftist socialists.
However, it is a good list to look at as the Obamaist's list of who to put up against the wall first-ist.
Because each of the people on this list should be nonviolently protested everywhere they go (more on that below), I have organized them by location. Please post updates on where they are as comments at http://afterdowningstreet.org/warcriminals
Ah... that makes sense....sort of...
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NEBRASKA:
46. Andrew Card works in Omaha, NE. His crimes are listed at War Criminals Watch.
Hmm... wonder what Andrew did.
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Hmm... wonder what Andrew did.
Didn't he have that one woman cousin or somesuch relative, who tried to cause trouble during the build-up to the War for the Liberation of Iraq, and ended up looking like a fool?
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Another excercise in impotent and juvenile stupidity that amounts to nothing. :loser:
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Another exercise in impotent and juvenile stupidity that amounts to nothing. :loser:
That's what the Swanson TV dinner primitive, a rich kid, does.
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That's what the Swanson TV dinner primitive, a rich kid, does.
No doubt considers himself a valient warrior in the fight against oppression. ::)
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I'm shocked that the list isn't Bush 25 times and Cheney 25 times kind of like the old DU stupid conservatives of the week most the entries every week was Bush or Cheney.
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...in hopes that it may be of some assistance to Eric Holder, John Conyers, Patrick Leahy...
I wouldn't hold your breath, idiot.
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Apparently you are the maximum level of war criminal if you are a lawyer and never touched anyone or had the power to make anyone do a damn' thing, since as any commander will tell you, a legal opinion is just 'Advice' which he does not have to follow (At his own risk, of course).
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Hmm...wonder if I made the list?
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davidswanson (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 12:15 PM
stupidity found here.Original message
Top 50 US War Criminals
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