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Title: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 16, 2009, 01:24:09 PM
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devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-16-09 12:57 PM
Original message
If people are responsible for what they put into their bodies, then why is most food available CRAP?
Seriously. I keep hearing that "you are what you eat" "personal responsibility" bullshit but let's say that you are on the road with your family and the kids get hungry.

What's usually available to you on the road? McDonald's, Burger King, Applebees, Chili's, etc. The service stations are stocked with pre-packaged processed crap. I mean please.... think about it.

I eat well but I'm just one person and not everyone has what I have near them and when I see this type of argument brought up, I wonder if people think past their own nose.

Just thought I'd ask.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6319334
Well, as a decent and civilized person, I'm not sure what it is that's intrinsically bad about McDonald's, Burger King, Applebee's, Chili's, etc.
But I'm sure the DUmp will explain.

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hlthe2b  (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-16-09 01:04 PM
Response to Original message
2. Forget the fast food joints, try buying anything without HFCS
 
I just got back from Safeway. I have a heavy week coming up and wanted to buy some convenience foods since I will have zero time to cook. I spent an hour reading labels--frozen foods, ice cream products, yogurts, deli packaged items, soup, you name it. Loaded with crap--high fructose corn syrup, MSG, food starches. Breads? LOADED with the crap. Not a single brand of packaged potato salad (or "fresh from the deli") that does not contain HFCS. Since I am boycotting Whole Foods, have no time to make potato salad, where am I going to get it as promised for a social event this week (attended by equally discerning "healthier eating" friends)?
It is all crap-- even (and especially the stuff labeled healthy). You can now pay 2 1/2 times the price for sandwich ham or turkey by paying for a "healthy" labeled brand that (when you read the fine print, is loaded with sugar-not hfcs, at least, but also nitrates.

Geebus. 65-80% of the store is crap I wouldn't eat, given a choice.  

There it is again, that eeevil HFCS. Again, not one DUmmy knows the reason they're supposed to hate it: It's made and used by American
companies. Like all American companies, they are owned and run by Republicans, who have more money and own more stuff than any DUmmy.
That's the reason they're supposed to hate HFCS. That and the fact it tastes so damn good, DUmmies keep eating until they're enormously fat.

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juno jones  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-16-09 01:23 PM
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11. Mostly salads kept unoxidized by chemicals (except where illegal) and served with calorically ridiculous dressings loaded with...ta-da...HCFS and crap oils. Fast food healthy is merely giving you the illusion of healthy.

I'm frustrated at my current place of employment because they have 6 kinds of pre-prepared chemical soup and neither balsamic vinegar nor olive oil which is all I put on my salad.

Uh-oh. Up until now, we'd been overlooking crap oils, and I've never given enough thought
to the hazards of "the illusion of healthy".
DUmmy juno jones must be a joy to work with.

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juno jones  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-16-09 01:16 PM
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5. There's a lot of hidden baddies too.
Even if you find a restaurant with decent food, often HFCS is hidden in products that they use, or crap oils like soy and corn, or other additives not put there deliberately by the restaurant but contained in ingredients that they use. Crap ingredients are really invasive, when I was running a 'health food' kitchen 19 years ago, even we had to compromise on some ingredients to satisfy everyone from customers to the health dept.

I truly wish they could make food these days without the crap. The adulteration of basic ingredients makes the stuff even more ubiquitous. It's well hidden and even those who claim to read all labels and reject the wanting are probably still ingesting some of that stuff albeit in a more peripheral manner.
Damn! Those hidden crap oils again! No wonder even well-informed DUmmies eventually die!  

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devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)        Sun Aug-16-09 01:21 PM
10. Exactly! Which is basically my point and that is most food available is shite and can't be avoided.
 
BTW, which ingredients did you have to comply with? Good call on soy and corn oil - what a scam!

You know, this could all go back to the health care business. If we all had free O-care, the DUmmies could
go to their free O-docs. Most of them are enormously fat, due to Republican HFCS and hidden crap oils, but
now they could do something about it. They could have their free O-doc perform free liposuction.

You can imagine the by-product: barrels, storage tanks, supertankers, all full of free DUmmyfat. Disposal would
become a problem for "the planet", but recycling could be a win-win solution. We could require that in all
prepared food, those hidden crap oils must be replaced by free O-fat. Food prices would decline, since
free O-fat would replace "crap oil", a ubiquitous ingredient.

There would surely be freepers who would object to being forced to have O-fat in their food. It
would be necessary to shut them up ruthlessly. One can imagine a terrified freeper, pursued by the
O-troopers, running through deserted streets screaming, "O-fat is DUmmies!"

 
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FarCenter (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-16-09 01:17 PM
6. Well, for example, at Burger King...
Order a plain Whopper, which is a bun, meat patty, and some pickles, lettuce and tomatoes (no double of anything, no cheeseon anything).
Do not order a soda -- if it is not a diet drink, it is usually HFCS; and if it is a diet drink, why are you paying money for nothing?
Do not order french fries, onion rings or any other greasy side dishes.
Do not order desert in any of the fatty, sweet forms.

Not so quick, DUmmy FarCenter, a plain Whopper with a glass of organic water won't get you off
the hook. That meat came from a critter that did not roam the free range. Imagine its mental
anguish, confined to a feedlot without even any reading material. Treated like an animal!

The bun was likely made from genetically modified wheat
The pickles, lettuce, and tomatoes undoubtedly benefited from petrochemical fertilizers and pesticides,
to say nothing of below-minimum wage farm workers.

Republicans enjoyed profits from all those petrochemicals, genetically modified grains,
and even the labor of those farm workers.

What's a DUmmy to do?

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MindPilot  (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-16-09 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
9. And single people --  
many "good" foods are difficult to buy (and in many cases prepare) in small enough quantities
for one person to use before it spoils.
 
We need an O-czar to regulate portion sizes. If O-portions were the law, and
we eliminated crap oils, maybe the DUmmies would stop dying.
 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: vesta111 on August 16, 2009, 01:41:07 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6319334
Well, as a decent and civilized person, I'm not sure what it is that's intrinsically bad about McDonald's, Burger King, Applebee's, Chili's, etc.
But I'm sure the DUmp will explain.
 
There it is again, that eeevil HFCS. Again, not one DUmmy knows the reason they're supposed to hate it: It's made and used by American
companies. Like all American companies, they are owned and run by Republicans, who have more money and own more stuff than any DUmmy.
That's the reason they're supposed to hate HFCS. That and the fact it tastes so damn good, DUmmies keep eating until they're enormously fat.
 
Uh-oh. Up until now, we'd been overlooking crap oils, and I've never given enough thought
to the hazards of "the illusion of healthy".
DUmmy juno jones must be a joy to work with.
Damn! Those hidden crap oils again! No wonder even well-informed DUmmies eventually die!  

You know, this could all go back to the health care business. If we all had free O-care, the DUmmies could
go to their free O-docs. Most of them are enormously fat, due to Republican HFCS and hidden crap oils, but
now they could do something about it. They could have their free O-doc perform free liposuction.

You can imagine the by-product: barrels, storage tanks, supertankers, all full of free DUmmyfat. Disposal would
become a problem for "the planet", but recycling could be a win-win solution. We could require that in all
prepared food, those hidden crap oils must be replaced by free O-fat. Food prices would decline, since
free O-fat would replace "crap oil", a ubiquitous ingredient.

There would surely be freepers who would object to being forced to have O-fat in their food. It
would be necessary to shut them up ruthlessly. One can imagine a terrified freeper, pursued by the
O-troopers, running through deserted streets screaming, "O-fat is DUmmies!"

  
Not so quick, DUmmy FarCenter, a plain Whopper with a glass of organic water won't get you off
the hook. That meat came from a critter that did not roam the free range. Imagine its mental
anguish, confined to a feedlot without even any reading material. Treated like an animal!

The bun was likely made from genetically modified wheat
The pickles, lettuce, and tomatoes undoubtedly benefited from petrochemical fertilizers and pesticides,
to say nothing of below-minimum wage farm workers.

Republicans enjoyed profits from all those petrochemicals, genetically modified grains,
and even the labor of those farm workers.

What's a DUmmy to do?
  
We need an O-czar to regulate portion sizes. If O-portions were the law, and
we eliminated crap oils, maybe the DUmmies would stop dying.
 


You have forgotten the Doctor that used his patients fat to fuel his cars.

BTW, when a diet consists of carbohydrates and little meat or vegetables, Pasta, Noodles and Ramen for 2 meals a day, people do get fat.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: jukin on August 16, 2009, 05:19:31 PM
I condensed this to "I'm fat and it's not my fault.  It is the HFCS fault and evil corporate people. And gosh darn it people like me."
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 16, 2009, 08:10:34 PM
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What's usually available to you on the road? McDonald's, Burger King, Applebees, Chili's, etc. The service stations are stocked with pre-packaged processed crap. I mean please.... think about it.

Ever heard of a grocery store?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 17, 2009, 08:49:07 AM
Ever heard of a grocery store?

NO, NO, NO....not an ordinary grocery store.

If the DUmmie is so funny about what he eats, why not pack a cooler to eat from while on the road. How damn much trouble can it be to throw a head of lettuce and 2 dozen carrots in a cooler?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: docstew on August 17, 2009, 09:09:28 AM
Ever heard of a grocery store?

most grocery stores that are by major highways are out, as they are of the Wal-Mart variety.  Can't be supporting those damned Repukelickers that exploit their workers by not allowing unions.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: Karin on August 17, 2009, 09:27:27 AM
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FarCenter (1000+ posts)      Sun Aug-16-09 01:17 PM
6. Well, for example, at Burger King...
Order a plain Whopper, which is a bun, meat patty, and some pickles, lettuce and tomatoes (no double of anything, no cheeseon anything).
Do not order a soda -- if it is not a diet drink, it is usually HFCS; and if it is a diet drink, why are you paying money for nothing?
Do not order french fries, onion rings or any other greasy side dishes.
Do not order desert in any of the fatty, sweet forms.

Do not ****ing tell me what to do. 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: thundley4 on August 17, 2009, 10:04:57 AM
Do not ****ing tell me what to do. 


That's right, that's the job of the government.  :lmao:
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 17, 2009, 01:01:03 PM
DUmmie says, "you are what you eat"...I can't help but wonder how long they've been cooking with used motor oil?
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 17, 2009, 04:15:43 PM
DUmmie says, "you are what you eat" . . .

If that's the case, then it should be really easy to determine their diets, as they are all shit.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Food With HFCS And "Crap Oils" - A Solution Is Proposed
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 17, 2009, 05:27:19 PM
If that's the case, then it should be really easy to determine their diets, as they are all shit.

Hey man, everything a liberal touches turns to shit.