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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on August 16, 2009, 11:36:14 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6318711
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-16-09 11:44 AM
Original message
Perhaps the democratic party could form a "group policy" for all its members
and offer a union-style, good-coverage health care policy that we could all buy into..and then let the republicans do whatever the hell they want
A single "group" with 55 million or so, should have some clout
I only bring this here for two responses out of a tiny bonfire but so very telling.
stray cat (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-16-09 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
6. So who will throw in $15,000 to cover themselves?
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 12:25 PM by stray cat
and donate another $15,000 to cover someone who can't pay?
The DUmmy position...it shouldn`t cost ME anything.
eomer (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-16-09 11:55 AM
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2. I don't think so. Our group policy would surely end in a "death spiral".
I assume you would want to allow everyone to participate, regardless of pre-existing conditions What would happen, then, is that everyone who can't get coverage anywhere else would come to the Democratic Party plan. The price for the plan would eventually have to include the cost of all these currently uninsured people, many of whom have catastrophic illnesses. The price would rise to the point that healthy people would opt out, since they would be able to buy coverage other places. You would eventually have just the seriously ill people and the cost would be too high for most of them to afford. The plan would crash and burn in a death spiral.
The only solution to the pre-existing condition problem is universal coverage and universal elimination of the pre-existing condition exclusion.
Explains in a nutshell why socialism won`t work and then solves it by simply declaring that one has to pretend it doesn`t exist to keep believing what they want to believe.
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Anyone recall a couple years back when some DUmmy suggested DU form its own insurance group? :lmao:
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1. Make Insurance Company
2. ???????????????
3. Utopia
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eomer (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-16-09 11:55 AM
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2. I don't think so. Our group policy would surely end in a "death spiral".
I assume you would want to allow everyone to participate, regardless of pre-existing conditions What would happen, then, is that everyone who can't get coverage anywhere else would come to the Democratic Party plan. The price for the plan would eventually have to include the cost of all these currently uninsured people, many of whom have catastrophic illnesses. The price would rise to the point that healthy people would opt out, since they would be able to buy coverage other places. You would eventually have just the seriously ill people and the cost would be too high for most of them to afford. The plan would crash and burn in a death spiral.
Sometimes a blind squirrel finds a nut...
The only solution to the pre-existing condition problem is universal coverage and universal elimination of the pre-existing condition exclusion.
Then drops it on the way back to the nest.
So close to clarity - yet so far.
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Nice to see them admit that the only way their version of America can work is by forcing citizens to participate.
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Sometimes a blind squirrel finds a nut...
Then drops it on the way back to the nest.
So close to clarity - yet so far.
The nut slips through its paws and it falls, hitting every branch and a powerline on the way to the hard pavemenbt of DUmminess below.