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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: seemomgonuts on February 25, 2008, 10:34:06 AM
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Can someone help me with this? I have this pic and want to know what was going on at the time it was taken. Anyone know?
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/seemomgonuts/obamamuslim.jpg)
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http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-needs-to-bury-this-muslim-photo.html
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
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That was fast! Thanks! :cheersmate:
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(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/seemomgonuts/obamamuslim.jpg)
"First, we must see if you are properly circumcised..."
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
(http://kyra-mike.net/blog/ernie-bert-wtf.jpg)
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Post one of a US president doing that (or senator, or congressman).
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
This is not a muslim head dress -- which carries meaning not embraced by either GWB or former President Clinton.
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Can someone help me with this? I have this pic and want to know what was going on at the time it was taken. Anyone know?
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/seemomgonuts/obamamuslim.jpg)
Obama's first attempt at dressing for a toga party goes terribly, terribly wrong.
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Can someone help me with this? I have this pic and want to know what was going on at the time it was taken. Anyone know?
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/seemomgonuts/obamamuslim.jpg)
Obama's first attempt at dressing for a toga party goes terribly, terribly wrong.
:rotf:
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
This is not a muslim head dress -- which carries meaning not embraced by either GWB or former President Clinton.
:banghead:
2 years ago, I took part in a festival in Aomori City. I was dressed in a traditional Japanese garb that had religious connotations that I don't agree with.
I guess that means I support that religion then?
No, I was being polite, and accepting the honor that my host nation showed me in allowing to partake in a very important ceremony of theirs.
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Wow--TNO got one right. But even broken clocks are right twice a day.
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Just incase someone thinks there is anything sinister with what he is wearing... Emphasis is mine.
The photo has sparked a storm over who released the image
A photo of US presidential candidate Barack Obama wearing Somali clothing is causing a storm after it got released to the Drudge Report website.
Yusuf Garaad Omar, head of the BBC's Somali Service, explains the meaning of the robes.
These are the normal clothes that nomadic people wear.
The head turban is especially used by elderly people as a suggestion of respect. It is something that has no meaning whatsoever in Somalia culture.
If you see someone dressed like that in Somalia, you think it is a nomadic person - that is all.
There is no religious significance to it whatsoever. It is mainly the nomadic people who use it. Some of them are religious, some are not.
It is simply a tradition of the place where they are from.
In this particular place, Wajir in north-east Kenya, the community is majority ethnic Somali.
They have a council for Peace and Development, and when they get delegates they dress them as a nomadic person.
I have been trying to track down the old man in the photo with Mr Obama, and I have been told he is Mohammed Hassan, the chair of the council itself. But he is not in town today, and we could not get hold of him.
This debate reminds me of people back home in Somalia, who say that women should not wear trousers, or other cultures who say men should not wear a tie. I just don't think it makes sense.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7265115.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7265115.stm)
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
This is not a muslim head dress -- which carries meaning not embraced by either GWB or former President Clinton.
:banghead:
2 years ago, I took part in a festival in Aomori City. I was dressed in a traditional Japanese garb that had religious connotations that I don't agree with.
I guess that means I support that religion then?
No, I was being polite, and accepting the honor that my host nation showed me in allowing to partake in a very important ceremony of theirs.
If we were at war with Japan at the time then you would be an ass, and other choice words I won't post.
We are at war with Islamic Fundamentalists. Dressing in muslim head dress during a time of war (unless it is a requirement of their job) is quite frankly the height of stupidity.
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
This is not a muslim head dress -- which carries meaning not embraced by either GWB or former President Clinton.
:banghead:
2 years ago, I took part in a festival in Aomori City. I was dressed in a traditional Japanese garb that had religious connotations that I don't agree with.
I guess that means I support that religion then?
No, I was being polite, and accepting the honor that my host nation showed me in allowing to partake in a very important ceremony of theirs.
If we were at war with Japan at the time then you would be an ass, and other choice words I won't post.
We are at war with Islamic Fundamentalists. Dressing in muslim head dress during a time of war (unless it is a requirement of their job) is quite frankly the height of stupidity.
Before you make a further ass of yourself, why don't you read my next post.
And we are at war with Terrorists who view an extemist form of Islam.
WE ARE NOT AT WAR WITH ISLAM!
Or maybe you'd like to explain that to the 15,000 Muslims who serve in the US Military that we are at war with them?
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When visiting foreign lands, political figures often don the traditional garb worn in those places. Ain't no thing.
Other than Nancy Pelosi when she went under Bush's nose to Syria... I have yet to see a pic of Bush or Clinton in a dashiki, turban, or whatever. Provide proof, or STFU.
(http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg)
(http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg)
Open mouth, insert foot?
These pics came right from the drudge story.
This is not a muslim head dress -- which carries meaning not embraced by either GWB or former President Clinton.
:banghead:
2 years ago, I took part in a festival in Aomori City. I was dressed in a traditional Japanese garb that had religious connotations that I don't agree with.
I guess that means I support that religion then?
No, I was being polite, and accepting the honor that my host nation showed me in allowing to partake in a very important ceremony of theirs.
If we were at war with Japan at the time then you would be an ass, and other choice words I won't post.
We are at war with Islamic Fundamentalists. Dressing in muslim head dress during a time of war (unless it is a requirement of their job) is quite frankly the height of stupidity.
Before you make a further ass of yourself, why don't you read my next post.
And we are at war with Terrorists who view an extemist form of Islam.
WE ARE NOT AT WAR WITH ISLAM!
Or maybe you'd like to explain that to the 15,000 Muslims who serve in the US Military that we are at war with them?
[Geeska Afrika caption:] U.S. Senator Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali Elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia. The area is at the epicenter of a severe drought that has hit the Horn of Africa region, after erratic and insufficient rains during the April-June season.
According to the photo’s caption, what Mr. Obama is wearing is NOT a Kenyan elder’s garb, but a Somali elder’s garb. This is quite an important difference, especially in view of the fact that Kenya is 90% Christian and Somalia is 100% Sunni Muslim.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip)
Oh and here is an article your boy Yusuf Garaad Omar wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/africa/5051588.stm
Oh you mean that Somalia? Yeah, that Somalia.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
"He's wearing clothes that Muslims wear! That means he's supporting Islam! And we all know that every Muslim is a terrorist!"
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2294476622_5008630661_o.jpg)
But his headgear seems to be a topi or kopiah or what the Jews call a kippah, which is worn by Muslims all around the world.
From Wikipedia:
Kippah
Many Muslims wear a kippah equivalent called a topi. The origin of this practice, and any other practice of men covering their heads with various head gear, is the general sunnah (or normative practice / example) of the Prophet Muhammad to cover one’s head. Until more recent times, men in most Muslim societies were rarely seen without headdress of some sort.
A kufi covers most of the head. Covering the head is seen by Muslims to transcend many religious traditions, confirming Muslim belief in the practice’s Divine origin, as, according to Muslim belief, all Prophets of God preached the same basic message with varying cultural and social adjustments throughout time…
And again, nobody here is saying this makes Mr. Obama a Muslim.
It is just a curious thing that we should not have seen such photos before, if they are in the possession of the Associated Press.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/another-photo-of-obama-in-muslim-garb (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/another-photo-of-obama-in-muslim-garb)
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
Last I heard, we where not a war with Kenya.
Tell me, if someone where wearing the traditional garb of Saudi Arabia, or Oman, or Pakistan, or Qatar, would that be a stupid move?
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
Last I heard, we where not a war with Kenya.
Read the article your source wrote. Islam rules Somalia. Dressing in Somalia elder wear is not wise, no matter what way you slice it.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
Last I heard, we where not a war with Kenya.
Read the article your source wrote. Islam rules Somalia. Dressing in Somalia elder wear is not wise, no matter what way you slice it.
He was wearing the clothing of Kenyan's who where ethnically Somali. He was visiting a Kenyan village that our troops where helping to rebuild after being destroyed by a flood.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
Last I heard, we where not a war with Kenya.
Tell me, if someone where wearing the traditional garb of Saudi Arabia, or Oman, or Pakistan, or Qatar, would that be a stupid move?
Unless it is a requirement of our soldiers (as they make female soldiers cover up) then I would hope this would not happen by any of our visiting Congress.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
Last I heard, we where not a war with Kenya.
Read the article your source wrote. Islam rules Somalia. Dressing in Somalia elder wear is not wise, no matter what way you slice it.
He was wearing the clothing of Kenyan's who where ethnically Somali. He was visiting a Kenyan village that our troops where helping to rebuild after being destroyed by a flood.
In the world of politics perception is reality. His intent means little to nothing. He is wearing the garb of a Somali Sunni Muslim during a time of war. That is damaging.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
Hardly bigotry.
In a political sense this picture is extremely damaging and not something he should have partaken in during a time of war.
Last I heard, we where not a war with Kenya.
Read the article your source wrote. Islam rules Somalia. Dressing in Somalia elder wear is not wise, no matter what way you slice it.
He was wearing the clothing of Kenyan's who where ethnically Somali. He was visiting a Kenyan village that our troops where helping to rebuild after being destroyed by a flood.
In the world of politics perception is reality. His intent means little to nothing. He is wearing the garb of a Somali Sunni Muslim during a time of war. That is damaging.
Only to those who are ignorant.
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http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-needs-to-bury-this-muslim-photo.html
Thanks for the link Dixie, though it doesn't really explain why he was dressed in Somali gear when he was visiting Kenya except that presumably being a border area there would have been some ethnic Somalis in the area. It is not the usual sort of donning a head covering to enter a temple or mosque as a mark of respect which most visiting politicians do.
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:whatever:
Thank you for a classic example of bigotry.
"He's wearing clothes that Muslims wear! That means he's supporting Islam! And we all know that every Muslim is a terrorist!"
Well, the latter part is pretty much true.