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Title: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Carl on August 08, 2009, 05:07:14 AM
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-06-09 11:51 PM
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Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6240407


The mental contortions a DUmmy has to make...
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Lex  (1000+ posts)          Thu Aug-06-09 11:52 PM
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1. I agree that it is, but being a misinformed loudmouth isn't informed dissent.
   nt

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Hugabear (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-06-09 11:56 PM
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5. Dissent just for the sake of dissent is no core value
   In the past, whenever protesters dissented, they usually had an alternative solution. These mobs are not offering anything substantive, they're dissenting for the sheer purpose of intimidating and bullying others into submission.

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BattyDem  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-06-09 11:55 PM
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4. What's happening at the town hall meetings is NOT dissent!
   It's an organized effort to prevent ordinary citizens from talking to their congressional representatives about healthcare and other issues that matter to them. It was bad enough when they were simply being obnoxious and shouting RW talking points, but now they're getting aggressive. They're using fear and intimidation to stop the democratic process.

It's not dissent - it's terrorism.
:whatever:

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MADem  (1000+ posts)        Fri Aug-07-09 12:49 AM
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14. There's a difference between being a clueless hectoring crackpot, and
   disagreeing with a government policy or program based on honest KNOWLEDGE of what that program entails.

When you say "dissent," if you don't mean "INFORMED dissent" you're not being true to the original meaning of the sentence.

Crazed rantings by misinformed asswipes isn't dissent. That's behavior that is the result of clueless nitwits buying off on pure propaganda.

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Juche  (1000+ posts)          Fri Aug-07-09 04:11 AM
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29. Dissent based on what
   Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 04:12 AM by Juche
Dissent based on a desire for personal liberties and freedom carried out by an informed, passionate public against a tyrannical government? Yes.

Dissent based on low information voters with right wing authoritarian (aka protofascist) personality types who have their fears, prejudices and bigotries stoked and manipulated by corporate interests so they can be molded into useful idiot foot soldiers who oppose meaningful legislation designed to improve standards of living for Americans, legislation most of them don't understand the first thing about? No.

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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)          Fri Aug-07-09 10:25 AM
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35. We have an obligation to silence these teabaggin' assholes
   These disruptions are clearly hate crimes. In order for justice and freedom to continue we must crush these assholes and their stinking families - as a warning to other haters.

The irony of that statement. ::)

There you have it,agree with a left position and it is dissent...agree with a conservative position and it is being an uninformed thug.

Notice how quickly one can redefine protest and dissent into criminal behaviour.
History is trying to repeat itself and it is a bit scary.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 08, 2009, 05:26:53 AM
In that vein, neighbor, I just found this:

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Hopefully, the link works . . .
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Flame on August 08, 2009, 09:17:23 AM
It is, of course, they are just changing the definition of dissent now to suit their agenda!

Kinda like "Depends on what the definition of "is" is".
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Freeper on August 08, 2009, 09:20:25 AM
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BattyDem  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-06-09 11:55 PM
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4. What's happening at the town hall meetings is NOT dissent!
   It's an organized effort to prevent ordinary citizens from talking to their congressional representatives about healthcare and other issues that matter to them. It was bad enough when they were simply being obnoxious and shouting RW talking points, but now they're getting aggressive. They're using fear and intimidation to stop the democratic process.

It's not dissent - it's terrorism.

so a bunch of rightwingers showing dissent is terrorism but slamming planes into the world trade center wasn't. Gotta love the DUmmies.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: TheSarge on August 08, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)          Fri Aug-07-09 10:25 AM
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35. We have an obligation to silence these teabaggin' assholes
   These disruptions are clearly hate crimes.

Funny how you weren't saying that when the Ditch Bitch was disrupting everything and everyone.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Freeper on August 08, 2009, 09:51:25 AM
Funny how you weren't saying that when the Ditch Bitch was disrupting everything and everyone.

havent you got the meme?
Activism and protests from the left are patriotic. Activism and protests from the right is hate speech and needs to be silenced.

Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: BadCat on August 08, 2009, 10:00:00 AM
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)          Fri Aug-07-09 10:25 AM
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35. We have an obligation to silence these teabaggin' assholes
   These disruptions are clearly hate crimes. In order for justice and freedom to continue we must crush these assholes and their stinking families - as a warning to other haters.

This one should be distributed to every person you know.
The real views of the liberal left on public display.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Karin on August 08, 2009, 10:04:09 AM
Badcat, absolutely.  Deeply disturbing post.  Forwarding to Beck, Rush, Hannity and anybody else who will listen.  Also, my other site Moonbattery, which is getting a lot of traffic. 

Most of that thread was such pure bullshit I scrolled through it until I got to the end. 
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 08, 2009, 12:58:17 PM
Badcat, absolutely.  Deeply disturbing post.  Forwarding to Beck, Rush, Hannity and anybody else who will listen.  Also, my other site Moonbattery, which is getting a lot of traffic. 

Most of that thread was such pure bullshit I scrolled through it until I got to the end. 

Forwarding to DUmmie Funnies. lol
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: djones520 on August 08, 2009, 01:14:05 PM
Badcat, absolutely.  Deeply disturbing post.  Forwarding to Beck, Rush, Hannity and anybody else who will listen.  Also, my other site Moonbattery, which is getting a lot of traffic. 

Most of that thread was such pure bullshit I scrolled through it until I got to the end. 

Hell, I'd forward it to the FBI as well.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 08, 2009, 01:19:35 PM
Everyone on this thread is gonna be reported on the snitch line.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 08, 2009, 04:02:59 PM
Everyone on this thread is gonna be reported on the snitch line.

Hell, I want to be first, then!

Oh, and this idiot:

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AngryAmish (1000+ posts)          Fri Aug-07-09 10:25 AM
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35. We have an obligation to silence these teabaggin' assholes
   These disruptions are clearly hate crimes. In order for justice and freedom to continue we must crush these assholes and their stinking families - as a warning to other haters.

Just which group has most of the guns?   :uhsure:
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Airwolf on August 08, 2009, 06:16:14 PM
They must really be feeling their oats if they want to keep pushing this agenda on those that don't want it.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: USA4ME on August 08, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
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MADem

When you say "dissent," if you don't mean "INFORMED dissent" you're not being true to the original meaning of the sentence.

And exactly who defines "INFORMED dessent?"  Because I assure you that any definition from the likes of you and those like you is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, an accurate definition.

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Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: TheSarge on August 08, 2009, 10:14:58 PM
Everyone on this thread is gonna be reported on the snitch line.

My name's already in the Gov't system. They won't have to look too hard to find me so I'm not worried.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 08, 2009, 11:11:45 PM
Situational ethics on parade.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: TheSarge on August 09, 2009, 08:45:23 AM
Situational ethics on parade.

It's one of the cornerstones of being a Libtard.  Being able to take any side of any of any issue so they are never wrong.
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: Splashdown on August 09, 2009, 10:26:27 AM
Where was the "informed opinion" when they were orgasming when Cindy was camping in the ditch? Or assaulting Condi Rice with blood-stained hands? Or any of that other Code-Pinko wacko crap?
Title: Re: Dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. Agree or disagree?
Post by: delilahmused on August 09, 2009, 10:44:06 AM
AngryAmish has GOT to be a mole. No one can be that ignorant, even a DUmmie. I don't think the Amish part is working out so well for Angry. This kind of rage would be dangerous if it wasn't a DUmmie and therefore impotent.

Cindie