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Title: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Kimberly on August 05, 2009, 06:52:16 PM
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OmmmSweetOmmm  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-05-09 11:01 AM
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This is just too cool! A book written in symbols by our own Symbolman!
 Click and EnJoy! http://www.symbolman.com/

In this amazing book, the saga of Symbolman is told utilizing only a dreamlike stream of international symbols - kin to stories transmitted by cave paintings dating from the dawn of man, hierogyphics, and pictographs of all cultures throughout time - it's like nothing you've ever read.

The author writes: "Like a universal code, a sort of “visual esperanto” sprang into being, one which I believe allows just about anyone in any industrialized nation, anywhere on the planet, to read and understand this Tale, regardless of language."

The Story:

The Government drafts Symbolman, trains him to kill, and seeks to foreclose on the family farm, a move sure to leave his recently widowed mother homeless. Her cry for help, in the form of a letter, arrives the night before he's to be shipped off to war.


 
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symbolman  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-05-09 11:21 AM
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7. Hey Guardian Angel o' mine :)
 This IS published! We're self publishing, tho if the France deal works out, it may cover much of Europe, which would be killer

how's the back! Sore, huh?


Oooo. Self publishing, wow. There's an accomplishment to be proud of. On his website he has a couple sample pages. It's possibly one of the silliest things I've seen in awhile.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: AllosaursRus on August 05, 2009, 07:31:42 PM
Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6224330#6224369)
 

 

Oooo. Self publishing, wow. There's an accomplishment to be proud of. On his website he has a couple sample pages. It's possibly one of the silliest things I've seen in awhile.

More than likely it is also the DUmbest thing you have ever read!
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: TheSarge on August 05, 2009, 07:46:40 PM
More than likely it is also the DUmbest thing you have ever read!

You mean there could be something worse than Will Pitt's 5 page pamphlet?
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Chris_ on August 05, 2009, 08:42:01 PM
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=symbolman&x=23&y=17
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 05, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
You mean there could be something worse than Will Pitt's 5 page pamphlet?
No, that's not possible, but this is equally bad.

If you look at the sample pages on his site, you would swear some Freeper is doing a not-very-good job of making fun of the pinhead. But he's serious! Just calling him simply bad, does not do justice to the depths he plumbs.

He's every bit as bad as Pitt, just in a different, awful genre.

These DUmmies keep pushing DUmmy Mythsaje closer to Pulitzer.

http://www.symbolman.com/bible.html
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 05, 2009, 09:34:44 PM
Is it available at the Amazon Kindle store yet? (any of us could put things there for sale)
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: franksolich on August 06, 2009, 08:10:20 AM
Hey, question.

As most know, the cymbals-clanging primitive used to fly all over Alaska, taking photographs of the terrain for one of the federal agenices.  It was probably a fun job, and undoubtedly a well-paying job.

Is it possible to lose a pilot's license, or such a job (this was Alaska, after all), by being caught smoking weed?
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: TheSarge on August 06, 2009, 08:58:00 AM
Hey, question.

As most know, the cymbals-clanging primitive used to fly all over Alaska, taking photographs of the terrain for one of the federal agenices.  It was probably a fun job, and undoubtedly a well-paying job.

Is it possible to lose a pilot's license, or such a job (this was Alaska, after all), by being caught smoking weed?

Yes because all Federal Agencies do random drug testing.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: jtyangel on August 06, 2009, 08:58:19 AM
Oh fer crissakes! Are they serious? And I have read this before, DUmbasses, it's called the PEC system used by non-verbal folks to communicate. My son uses a modified version of it:

(http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2148011/pecs54-main_Full.jpg)
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Flame on August 06, 2009, 09:31:26 AM
Holy crap, that was stupid.  I can't believe I wasted 3 minutes of my life at his website!
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Flame on August 06, 2009, 09:32:31 AM
Oh fer crissakes! Are they serious? And I have read this before, DUmbasses, it's called the PEC system used by non-verbal folks to communicate. My son uses a modified version of it:

(http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2148011/pecs54-main_Full.jpg)

jty, what you posted looks just like regular sign language...at least it completely matches the pictures in my sign language book!
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 06, 2009, 09:41:07 AM
Okay, now say "100 Le Francois come from Fort DuQuesne, and attack at dawn in three days" - ?

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: jtyangel on August 06, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
jty, what you posted looks just like regular sign language...at least it completely matches the pictures in my sign language book!

Yep, they are very similar. A lot of the command or active type of stuff, I think, looks similar to sign language pics too. Here is another version of the less active items. This looks a lot like Ryan's PEC book.

(http://specialedandme.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/pecs.jpg)

the other thing I posted--the active things--generally are posted on the wall by the activity they are supposed to do. For example, the bathroom might have a whole string on the process of washing hands or what needs to be done while in there. I think it's meant to keep autistic children on task or they have a tendency to stim. Ryan likes to turn the water on and play in it if he doesn't have a visual cue to keep him focused.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: franksolich on August 06, 2009, 10:57:52 AM
Yes because all Federal Agencies do random drug testing.

Well, I suppose that pretty much explains everything; thanks.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 06, 2009, 11:13:43 AM
Yes because all Federal Agencies do random drug testing.

Perhaps misleading, they all do it for pilots, vehicle operators (CDLs if not all) and other 'Designated positions' that involve public safety like ATCs, it is not everyone across the board.  If he was actually flying the A/C as part of his job, he would certainly have been subject to testing.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: diesel driver on August 06, 2009, 11:23:13 AM
Perhaps misleading, they all do it for pilots, vehicle operators (CDLs if not all) and other 'Designated positions' that involve public safety like ATCs, it is not everyone across the board.  If he was actually flying the A/C as part of his job, he would certainly have been subject to testing.

I had to do a yearly drug test, plus I was randomly tested 2 more times yearly when I drove a truck.

I still have a CDL, but my DOT physical card lapsed 5 years ago....
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: diesel driver on August 06, 2009, 11:27:48 AM
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The author writes: "Like a universal code, a sort of “visual esperanto” sprang into being, one which I believe allows just about anyone in any industrialized nation, anywhere on the planet, to read and understand this Tale, regardless of language."

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I can't make heads or tails out of these "cave drawings" they are passing off as some kind of "language".

However, I read and write English very well....
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 06, 2009, 11:54:06 AM
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I can't make heads or tails out of these "cave drawings" they are passing off as some kind of "language".

However, I read and write English very well....

I didn't find it all that easy to follow without reading his one-sentence blurbs about what is going on in each page.  Appears to me to be one of those things that looks a whole lot more intelligible after you know what it's SUPPOSED to say.  The page where he is conscripted was particularly one that would be gibberish without a written subtitle. 
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Wineslob on August 06, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
Holy crap! It's so good you need words to explain the shit!




Friggin idiot.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 06, 2009, 12:49:16 PM
My first class in Business Management is Business Communications. This would be a total failing grade.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 06, 2009, 01:02:12 PM
My first class in Business Management is Business Communications. This would be a total failing grade.

It's an interesting concept.  However his project completely overdrives the capability of the medium, due to his desire to express a modern, Leftie version of War and Peace through international bathroom directions for the illiterate. 
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 06, 2009, 01:07:15 PM
Tank:

The whole point of communication is that the two or more people doing the communicating must be 'more or less', more in business, speaking the same language.

This project made up a language. If that was the object of the project, OK, but a rosetta stone translator would be nice.

BY the way this Google Toolbar will translate any site into English or other languages. That is a pretty cool feature. I did it to one of my stories, in German, looked way cool... Arabic not so much.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 06, 2009, 01:29:51 PM
Well, his idea that these supposedly-international symbols (Some, not so much) already make up a (Primitive, in my view) language which is shared widely regardless of the spoken tongue, and that the symbols could be used to tell a conventional story in lieu of using transcribed verbal language, is what I do find to be an interesting concept.

Unfortuantely for Symbolman and his project, though, his story not only suffers from dangerously toxic levels of suckage, but also was far too abstract and complex for the medium he chose, and therefore is an EXTREME FAIL.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Wineslob on August 06, 2009, 02:29:59 PM
Tank:

The whole point of communication is that the two or more people doing the communicating must be 'more or less', more in business, speaking the same language.

This project made up a language. If that was the object of the project, OK, but a rosetta stone translator would be nice.

BY the way this Google Toolbar will translate any site into English or other languages. That is a pretty cool feature. I did it to one of my stories, in German, looked way cool... Arabic not so much.


Heh, lets have some fun, your post translated and back:


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As for all point of communication to transmit do that the people of two or more which the ' It is to become; It is many or less' The business which speaks the same language it is many. This project formed language. That project and OK, but object of the translator of the [rozetsuta] stone is splendid, but be. By the way this Google Toolbar translates the sight in English or other language. That is rather cool feature. I that it makes one of my story, with German, being cool and being seen the method… The Arabic so.


I love Babelfish.    :-)
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 06, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
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Unfortuantely for Symbolman and his project, though, his story not only suffers from dangerously toxic levels of suckage
Now that you mention it, I've noticed that extreme suckage, no, exquisite suckage, is a consistent quality among DUmpmonkeys who try to write.
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 06, 2009, 02:48:32 PM

Heh, lets have some fun, your post translated and back:



I love Babelfish.    :-)

lol. The Google one is automatic and the site stays the same, pretty cool.

Babelfish is freaking hilarious
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 06, 2009, 02:50:07 PM
[quote author = Wineslob link = topic = 31819.msg335641 # msg335641 date = 1249586999]

 Heh, können Spaß haben, Ihre Nachricht übersetzt und zurück:



 Ich liebe Babelfish. :-)
 [/ quote]
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Wineslob on August 06, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
Ahh, but I did mine in Engrish.......





 :lmao:
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 06, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
[quote author = Wineslob link = topic = 31819.msg335641 # msg335641 date = 1249586999]

 Heh, können Spaß haben, Ihre Nachricht übersetzt und zurück:



 Ich liebe Babelfish. :-)
 [/ quote]

I doubt Babelfish would translate it back just this way, but a live-human retranslation of that would be "Heh, can have fun your news translated and back.  I love Babelfish."  Does roughly convey the idea on the first translation, but going through it once again would probably start to produce some real 'Generational errors.'

 :-)
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 06, 2009, 03:05:38 PM
I doubt Babelfish would translate it back just this way, but a live-human retranslation of that would be "Heh, can have fun your news translated and back.  I love Babelfish."  Does roughly convey the idea on the first translation, but going through it once again would probably start to produce some real 'Generational errors.'

 :-)

Babel fish is fun. Google translator just turns the words on a website into another language. No fun at all. Useful though for web surfing if you don't speak english
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: Wineslob on August 06, 2009, 04:16:07 PM
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If I Babelfish like this do that exactly, it translates, retranslation between that residents " So it doubts that it is; When the back section your news which is translated being pleasant can Heh, pass. As for me Babelfish." It loves; Generally thought of first translation is carried, but keeps depending on that once more perhaps the substantial ' It starts creating; Generation errors.'





I jest can't hep it.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Silly symboldude writes silly book
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 06, 2009, 04:30:17 PM
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So it doubts that it is

No, how can you doubt you exist? If you have doubt then you must exist for there can be no doubt without existence