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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: TheSarge on August 04, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
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WASHINGTON -- Two nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines have been patrolling in international waters off the East Coast for several days, in activity reminiscent of the Cold War, defense officials said Tuesday.
U.S. Northern Command would not comment on the Russian submarines' movement. But in a prepared statement, Northern Command spokesman Michael Kucharek acknowledged the patrols and said the U.S. has been monitoring the two submarines.
Two senior U.S. officials, however, said the submarines had been patrolling several hundred miles off the coast and so far had done nothing to provoke U.S. military concerns. The officials provided details on condition of anonymity in order to discuss intelligence reports.
While the incident raises eyebrows, it did not trigger the more intense reaction by the U.S. military that Russia prompted when two of its bombers buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific in February 2008. U.S. fighter planes intercepted the two Russian fighters, including one that flew directly over the USS Nimitz twice at an altitude of about 2,000 feet.
The event did not escalate beyond that, but it signaled a more aggressive military agenda by Moscow.
The latest incident, which was first reported by The New York Times, comes amid increased Russian military activity in the region, and as the administration of President Obama works to thaw tense relations with Moscow over plans for a missile defense system in Central Europe.
Just last week a senior Pentagon official said the administration is looking at options for the plan, which would install 10 interceptors in Poland and a radar system in the Czech Republic. Assistant Secretary of Defense Alexander Vershbow told Congress members that the Obama administration is looking at various configurations as part of its review of missile defense plans.
Russia, meanwhile, conducted naval exercises with Venezuela last year in the Caribbean and sent one of its warships through the Panama Canal for the first time since World War II. The exercises with Venezuela were the first deployment of Russian ships to the Western Hemisphere since the Cold War.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/04/defense-officials-russian-subs-patrolling-east-coast-united-states/
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The latest incident, which was first reported by The New York Times
Which DimRat leaked the info?
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I'm surprised that they got two of their boats across the pond without them sinking
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"Once more, we play our dangerous game, a game of chess against our old adversary - The American Navy. For forty years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game and played it well. But today the game is different. We have the advantage. It reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin, when the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. Well, they will tremble again at the sound of our silence. We will pass through the American patrols, pass their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city
and listen to their rock 'n' roll while we conduct missile drills."
- Capt. Marko Ramius
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If these boats are in fact nuclear, what were they doing on the surface to be spotted.?
Or were they on the surface at all, I understand a sonar man can tell the country and designs of another SUB just by the sound of their screws, Is this true ?
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If nuclear (most likely) they weren't surfaced. SOSUS likely picked them up. And yes, while most of the technical stuff (tonals, etc.) are highly classified, one can identify down to a particular class of boat based on plant, screw, and machinery noise.
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Which DimRat leaked the info?
The officials provided details on condition of anonymity in order to discuss intelligence reports.
The ones that work for Uncle Eg0.
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"Once more, we play our dangerous game, a game of chess against our old adversary - The American Navy. For forty years, your fathers before you and your older brothers played this game and played it well. But today the game is different. We have the advantage. It reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin, when the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. Well, they will tremble again at the sound of our silence. We will pass through the American patrols, pass their sonar nets, and lay off their largest city
and listen to their rock 'n' roll while we conduct missile drills."
- Capt. Marko Ramius
Love this book/movie!
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Love this book/movie!
Book, yes. Movie, sucked.
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I have heard anything about us having vessels uot there shadowing them. I thought that used to be standard procedure.
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I have heard anything about us having vessels uot there shadowing them. I thought that used to be standard procedure.
Well, 'O' has the information now because it was posted online. I'm sure he didn't know about it until then .... :whatever:
Sure hope they are paying attention.
KC
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I have heard anything about us having vessels uot there shadowing them. I thought that used to be standard procedure.
No doubt it is, and it's not like we have that much else to do with our attack boats. However I would not expect the Navy to be out blabbing the fact to everyone, either.
Vesta, try applying some critical thinking to what you are looking at. I'm sure the pic is just a file photo to illustrate the class, it sure as Hell wasn't taken 'Several hundred miles out in the Atlantic' with that headland in view.
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If these boats are in fact nuclear, what were they doing on the surface to be spotted.?
Or were they on the surface at all, I understand a sonar man can tell the country and designs of another SUB just by the sound of their screws, Is this true ?
Yes. For example...the screw on a U.S. submarine is on a different frequency than they screw of a Russian boat.
Some of the mechanical noises from the engines are differnet as well.
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I have heard anything about us having vessels uot there shadowing them. I thought that used to be standard procedure.
It was during the Cold War. Somehow the suits in D.C. thought the Cold War was over when the Berlin Wall came down.
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No doubt it is, and it's not like we have that much else to do with our attack boats. However I would not expect the Navy to be out blabbing the fact to everyone, either.
Oh, ye of little faith. Shows what you know of boat ops. You'd be amazed what we do on a "regular" basis.
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Oh, ye of little faith. Shows what you know of boat ops. You'd be amazed what we do on a "regular" basis.
Could that be how we knew they were there? Our attack boats still play their little game with the Russian subs following them all over the Atlantic?
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Oh, ye of little faith. Shows what you know of boat ops. You'd be amazed what we do on a "regular" basis.
I meant aside from scraping paint and putting on a new coat...
:evillaugh:
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Could that be how we knew they were there? Our attack boats still play their little game with the Russian subs following them all over the Atlantic?
"Oceanographic Research" has a pretty broad scope, m'boy.