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Title: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: CC27 on August 04, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov."

http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/04/call-for-informants-if-you-oppose-obamacare-the-white-house-wants-to-know-about-it/
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: bijou on August 04, 2009, 03:26:06 PM
That is sinister. But I like some of the ideas in the comments.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: formerlurker on August 04, 2009, 03:55:32 PM
This is more than just a little concerning.   Wow. 
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Karin on August 04, 2009, 03:59:20 PM
Definitely read the comments at Redstate.  Then go viral with this. 
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 04, 2009, 04:48:16 PM
Will it be ACORN or Organizing for America that gets the list?

Please inform them on tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com I could use their traffic!
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 04, 2009, 04:50:52 PM
I posted this on the Cubs message board.
Quote
The ministry of Truth
 
 
Wants you to report all those right wing fundies that are sending you emails against reforming healthcare.

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov."

www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

Let the 0Bama brown shirts take care of those pesky trouble makers.
 

2 replies.one from an Obamabot.
Quote

 
What is wrong with combating negative press head on?

It isn't like those types of emails come from credible sources.
 
One that gets it.
Quote
Awesome. The Gestapo in full effect.

It's only been on there 1/2 hour and the Cubs board is busy.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 04, 2009, 05:08:30 PM
I posted this on the Cubs message board.
2 replies.one from an Obamabot.One that gets it.
It's only been on there 1/2 hour and the Cubs board is busy.

Negative press?? Reporting someone from a casual conversation is "negative press"??

Next thing they will force you to register as a lobbyist before you can talk to friends, family and neighbors about their policies.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 04, 2009, 05:23:10 PM
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/635/crazydangeroussm.jpg)

Got it from cripplecreek, a FReeper
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 04, 2009, 05:47:00 PM
This is smack of Fascism.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 04, 2009, 06:15:21 PM
If the DUmmies see this they'll overload the system reporting their friends and family. :rotf:
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: formerlurker on August 04, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
Tax dollars are being spent to "correct" emails and internet postings.    Never in my life would I have imagined such a totally insane idea like this would come from our White House.

This is bat shit crazy stuff that isn't even remotely funny.

Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: formerlurker on August 04, 2009, 06:35:24 PM
You do realize that Obama will be running again in another year's time.   What "corrections" will he be looking to make then? 

 :banghead:  <---- this really can't be happening. 
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 04, 2009, 06:41:16 PM
You do realize that Obama will be running again in another year's time.   What "corrections" will he be looking to make then? 

 :banghead:  <---- this really can't be happening. 

He'll bring the backing of the DOJ to bear. That is unless his other czars haven't already shut down teh innerwebz and Faux News.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on August 04, 2009, 07:22:06 PM
This is smack of Fascism.
Close...

(http://i26.tinypic.com/alnrib.png)
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Airwolf on August 04, 2009, 09:03:33 PM
This is smack of Fascism.

Then you missed the part where Big Zero's Government wants access to your bank accounts to pay for your healthcare as well as the other fundingsources they can get their mitts on.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 04, 2009, 10:37:38 PM
A chat over the back fence becomes a federal concern
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: vesta111 on August 05, 2009, 02:13:33 AM
A chat over the back fence becomes a federal concern

So this is lesson number 3 in how to take down a country.

As I look at all this I tell myself this has to be a joke, the banks and the auto industry were a fluke and the National health care will never pass.
 
No Joke, stark reality, how can this be happening right under our nose and how can we just accept it like sheep.?

Now what, this reminds me of the Commie hunts of the 1950's.

Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 05, 2009, 03:28:06 AM
The Red States Scare of 2010 is coming!
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: formerlurker on August 05, 2009, 05:22:01 AM
So this is lesson number 3 in how to take down a country.

As I look at all this I tell myself this has to be a joke, the banks and the auto industry were a fluke and the National health care will never pass.
  
No Joke, stark reality, how can this be happening right under our nose and how can we just accept it like sheep.?

Now what, this reminds me of the Commie hunts of the 1950's.



Vesta I don't think we are taking it like sheep.

Congressmen McGovern came back to MA and had his ass handed to him over this health care issue at a Town Hall Mtg.    It was very ugly, and note the majority of the audience were liberal democrats.

Congress keeps marching in lock step with this Administration then they will find themselves unemployed in their next election cycle.   They don't think America is paying attention, but they couldn't be more wrong.  

The tea party crowd is about to explode in growth.   Democracy in action - this just may be the very thing we need for Americans to reclaim their political parties, especially the Democrats.  
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Chris_ on August 05, 2009, 05:46:06 AM
So this is lesson number 3 in how to take down a country.

As I look at all this I tell myself this has to be a joke, the banks and the auto industry were a fluke and the National health care will never pass.
 
No Joke, stark reality, how can this be happening right under our nose and how can we just accept it like sheep.?

Now what, this reminds me of the Commie hunts of the 1950's.



I think we need to hunt some Commie's again and prosecute them for treason.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Karin on August 05, 2009, 10:45:47 AM
Did you guys drop your lines yet?  I did; I mentioned some sites that are discussing healthcare.  I said these sites have actually read the actual bill. 
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: YupItsMe on August 05, 2009, 12:56:34 PM
My e-mail to Flag@whitehouse.gov.


So my elderly father is not too crazy about the new health plan being discussed.  If I turn him in do I get one of those nifty brownshirts and armband?
 
 
Sincerely,
 
 
A very concerned citizen.
 
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 05, 2009, 01:46:11 PM
Did you guys drop your lines yet?  I did; I mentioned some sites that are discussing healthcare.  I said these sites have actually read the actual bill. 

Is it a crime to read the bill yet?
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 05, 2009, 01:48:42 PM
Is it a crime to read the bill yet?

It's still okay to read it, you just can't discuss it.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on August 05, 2009, 05:14:34 PM
If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to..."
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Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 05, 2009, 05:19:49 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/34773f7.png)

Some blog is telling people to send this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crappie) to the White House. It's safe to click, but it's appropriate in more than one way.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Chris_ on August 05, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
If the DUmmies see this they'll overload the system reporting their friends and family. :rotf:

I'm looking forward to overloading the system by forwarding all those e-mails from Barrister Kunta Kinte, the acai berry merchants, the penis enlargement folks; hell, I have a new purpose for everything in my Junk-mail folder now!

 :evil: :rocker2: :blowkiss:
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: TheSarge on August 05, 2009, 05:35:39 PM
I think we need to hunt some Commie's again and prosecute them for treason.

Somewhere Sen. Joe McCarthy is smiling broadly and feeling very validated and vindicated right about now.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: TheSarge on August 05, 2009, 05:38:49 PM
Two thoughts on this:

1) WTF we go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan to rid their countries of this kind of crap only to have it show up in ours?


2) And yes I do see something fishy that needs to be reported...a 1,000 page POS intended to wreck the healthcare system of the U.S. that has not been read in it's entirety by one elected official trying to force us to accept it.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: rich_t on August 05, 2009, 05:52:33 PM
Two thoughts on this:

1) WTF we go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan to rid their countries of this kind of crap only to have it show up in ours?

Is that what we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan about?
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 05, 2009, 05:56:12 PM
Is that what we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan about?

Yes it was, at least in the sense that we went to war to defeat people that wanted to destroy the US. Now the numbnuts in this country elected like minded people.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: TheSarge on August 05, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
Is that what we went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan about?

You know what I mean.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: bijou on August 05, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
So Obama is a DUer and he has set up a big old national alert button.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: rich_t on August 05, 2009, 05:57:49 PM
You know what I mean.

Of course I do.

I was just teasing a bit.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: thundley4 on August 05, 2009, 06:22:23 PM
So Obama is a DUer and he has set up a big old national alert button.

Don't worry, your posts have been alerted on also.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 05, 2009, 09:02:08 PM
I'm looking forward to overloading the system by forwarding all those e-mails from Barrister Kunta Kinte, the acai berry merchants, the penis enlargement folks; hell, I have a new purpose for everything in my Junk-mail folder now!

 :evil: :rocker2: :blowkiss:

That is a great idea, I might have 1,000
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Chris_ on August 05, 2009, 11:51:49 PM
Think if everyone here sent in atleast 10 fowards from their bulk/trash mail we could crash their servers in no time
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Chris_ on August 06, 2009, 12:13:32 AM
Just started my Quixotic crusade by forwarding some forwarded messages from the DNC to "the appropriate channels".

I can't wait until the jack-booted O-bot thugs start trying to kick down my door to get back at me.  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: debk on August 06, 2009, 12:37:06 AM
This seems to be an appropriate time for this reminder.....

Quote:

First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Catholic.

And then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left
to speak up for me.



There are many variations on this poem by Martin Niemoller, a survivor of Dachau, but they all say the same thing: in order to defeat hatred we all have a duty to speak up.




 :(


There are many descriptive nouns that could be used in place of "Communist, Jew, Catholic"......

............Republican, Conservative, Christian, Elderly, Infirm, the unborn child.......
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Sam Adams on August 06, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
My e-mail to Flag@whitehouse.gov.


So my elderly father is not too crazy about the new health plan being discussed.  If I turn him in do I get one of those nifty brownshirts and armband?
 
 
Sincerely,
 
 
A very concerned citizen.
 



 :II:
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: crockspot on August 08, 2009, 05:14:35 AM
White House Move to Collect 'Fishy' Info May Be Illegal, Critics Say

The White House strategy of turning supporters into snitches when they see "fishy" information about the health care debate may run afoul of the law, legal experts say.

"The White House is in bit of a conundrum because of this privacy statute that prohibits the White House from collecting data and storing it on people who disagree with it," Judge Andrew Napolitano, a FOX News analyst, said Friday.

"There's also a statute that requires the White House to retain all communications that it receives. It can't try to rewrite history by pretending it didn't receive anything," he said.

"If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/white-house-collect-fishy-info-health-reform-illegal-critics-say/

CHIMPEACH!!!!!1111one11
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 08, 2009, 06:56:25 AM
Simce when has a little thing like "the law" ever stopped a democRAT?
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: docstew on August 08, 2009, 09:15:11 AM
so, unless they've shut the website down, report yourself, then file a FOIA request for any information regarding yourself.  When information comes up, sue the gov't claiming the WH violated your privacy, and generally make a big stink about it; if info doesn't come up, show that the info was recieved and that the WH deleted it, call for a special prosecutor to look into violations of the second statute... A lawsuit against the POTUS will get a lot of attention to violations of the law, a special prosecutor will get attention as well along with blowing the claims of "most ethical" out of the water.  Check and Mate.

I know that the D controlled HR and Senate will do nothing now, but get started before 2010 so the R's have something to work with when they take over in Jan 2011
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 08, 2009, 09:33:22 AM
Its a government email, so they can't say its not them
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: BadCat on August 08, 2009, 10:42:33 AM
By law, the White House has to retain (pretty much forever) any correspondence it receives.

About a billion emails they have to keep forever might make them think twice about doing something like this again.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: SilverOrchid on August 08, 2009, 07:21:27 PM
Hm. I tried to send some of my junk mail to the email address but it won't let me.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 08, 2009, 07:28:23 PM
Hm. I tried to send some of my junk mail to the email address but it won't let me.

I think their email is full
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: LC EFA on August 08, 2009, 07:40:53 PM
I wonder if the freaks over at places like 4chan have heard of this address yet...

Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: miskie on August 08, 2009, 07:47:37 PM
I may alert on myself  :-) Maybe I can convince Obama that all it'll take to convert me is a couple of beers at a plastic table on the White House Lawn.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Chris_ on August 08, 2009, 07:48:33 PM
I think their email is full

I've been sending hoodia, penis enlargement, and XXX GIRLZ e-mails to that e-mail all day.

Maybe I'm on some "speshul" list or somethin'?
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 08, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
Yep, They wouldn't take my email either. I think they took the address down.
Wow. A little bad publicity and they freak. Real leaders would stick by their guns. But expose an Obama plot and they scatter like roaches in the light.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 08, 2009, 08:29:14 PM
Wait, I got thru! I went to the blog, and thats still up. I clicked on their link, outlook popped up. I sent them my blog: Obama lied, seniors died.
AND IT WENT THROUGH!

Go to the whitehouse blog, use outlook, and you spam will go thru!

Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Chris_ on August 08, 2009, 08:43:34 PM
I've been forwarding 'em straight from my hotmail account's Junk-Mail folder.  Occasionally I'll forward stuff that gets all the way through to my outlook inbox, but the really juicy stuff gets blocked by hotmail directly.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 09, 2009, 10:42:59 AM
He's making a list, checking it twice.
Gonna find out who's naught or nice.
Obama ONE is coming to town.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 10, 2009, 01:02:10 AM
Just saw on Drudge that Pelosi and Hoyer have written an editorial in today's USA Today that calls the town hall protestors "un-American."  They really don't want to stay in power, do they?
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: The Village Idiot on August 10, 2009, 01:45:40 AM
Just saw on Drudge that Pelosi and Hoyer have written an editorial in today's USA Today that calls the town hall protestors "un-American."  They really don't want to stay in power, do they?

I just updated my blog about that and posted it in the Lounge too. Please leave a comment.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 10, 2009, 01:52:11 AM
I think their email is full
I've had no trouble sending them the entire contents of my junk mail folder.
I think a lot of it is fishy, and hope it gets investigated.
I don't believe a simple pill can enlarge a certain part of a man's body.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 10, 2009, 04:06:54 AM
I'll post the editorial in a seperate thread.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Airwolf on August 10, 2009, 06:37:17 PM
I've had no trouble sending them the entire contents of my junk mail folder.
I think a lot of it is fishy, and hope it gets investigated.
I don't believe a simple pill can enlarge a certain part of a man's body.

It most likely can't but an election can make ones head swell.
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,'
Post by: thundley4 on August 10, 2009, 07:46:27 PM
http://imfishy.com/ 

Some funny comments on the site.

Trout
8/10/2009 6:55:29 PM
this is racial profiling! i protest! where's my beer summit?
sincerely,
hard-working, all-American trout

Deanna Danford
8/10/2009 10:12:53 AM
I received an e-mail from the White House today talking about misinformation and "scare tactics" from those who are opposed to Obamacare. Mr. President, do you seriously want to talk "scare tactics" when you're having the secret service point assault rifles at women and children protesting your invasion in their lives? I want to see you AND congress on board to be on the same health care you want us on! By the way, where is Senator Kennedy's end of life counselors?

Jen Roering
8/8/2009 8:54:17 PM
Mr. President, I don't agree with anything your teleprompter has to say and will fight against your Marxist policies for the sake of my children and their right to live in a free country.

Like Rush, I hope you fail at what you're trying to do to this great nation. (p.s. quit apologizing for America, while you and your wife may not like this nation most of us believe our freedoms and liberty to be sacred).

Respectfully submitted,

Jen Roering
Albany, MN
Title: Re: Call For Informants: If You Oppose Obamacare, Even in 'Casual Conversation,' WH
Post by: Rebel on August 10, 2009, 07:47:30 PM
(http://www.moonbattery.com/Obamacare_Flag_Nazi_Logo_Troops.jpg)