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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on August 03, 2009, 12:34:10 PM
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:19 PM
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Prediction: FreeRepublic will be shut down before the end of Obama's first term
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 12:21 PM by berni_mccoy
They are openly advocating insurrection and making veiled threats toward the President at that site. This is not a free speech issue. They cannot threaten (veiled or otherwise) the President of the U.S. without consequences. It's not just a few rogue members promoting these types of statements. The founder of the site has made the case for open rebellion against the government and threatening responses in similar posts have been allowed to remain. They have been reported and I suspect they've gone too far at this point. Don't be surprised if the either the FBI or the SS begin investigating members of the site, leading to it's eventual shutdown.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6208864
Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:20 PM
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1. Good ridance to bad rubbish. nt.
liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:22 PM
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4. Is anyone reporting these threats to the Secret Service?
Is DUmmy liberal N proud talking about the ones threatening Vice President Cheney?
BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:25 PM
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8. Wishful thinking...
They may dance right up to the edge of fighting words and hate speech, but we are stuck with them. It is an unfortunate fact that the extreme right wing fascists have decided a scorched earth policy is better than a meaningful discussion about America's future.
We need a meaningful discussion with DUmmies. That would be productive. Who wants to take DUmmy Philosoraptor?
AspenRose (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:26 PM
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9. Nah. I doubt it.
I'll be very surprised if that happens.
As an aside, though, I think we will see an increase in trolls coming over here planting specific threads (and then reporting on them) to get DU shut down by the SS.
The really crazy threads, like this one, are all started by Lousy Freeper Trolls.
WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:28 PM
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10. Only if Rim Jobinson doesn't shut down the Birthers on his site
The Birthers are killing his donation base. If he doesn't ban Birther bullshit, he'll shut down for lack of funding.
hugo_from_TN (414 posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:31 PM
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15. He'll probably move the birther threads to a 'dungeon' like the truther threads here.
What are they going to say when the elementary school photos of the little jihadi Lord Zero come out, the ones taken while he still had the warthog bone through his nose?
Wickerman (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:29 PM
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13. They certainly walk the line
and sometimes trip over. However, let them stay; keep all the freak corralled in that one cyber ghetto of a mid-90's 14 year old's version of a discussion board. It's so ugly the only people who venture there are the ever decreasing faithful and those who love to make fun of them.
Well, the DUmmy makes a point. FR has the absolute worst layout since Algore invented the internets.
LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:29 PM
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14. Well, at least when we did it Skinner had the sense to delete the stuff
I don't get why it was hating America when we criticized Bush, but it's not hating America when they say this stuff about Obama.
The main difference is that Bush was an American.
Even if the DUmmies decide to shut down FR, maybe they will give this place a reprieve.
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:whatever:
People in glass houses....
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They do have a horrible layout. I tried to join it, but just couldn't get past that. It was headachy. Why don't they do just a normal forum like we have?
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:whatever:
People in glass houses....
No freaking kidding. If DU wasn't shut down during the last 8 years, FR will be just fine. Remember, dissent was patriotic during the Bush years.
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Well, FR was around during th Clinton and Bush years. It is still there.
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Bronzy
Goldy
Irony
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Actually, I kinda like the fact you can look up posts made directly to you. I have never had a problem with their format, but of course I can write html.
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I see that the Thorazine drips must be dry on the Island today...It's the first of the month, maybe the meds haven't been passed around yet?
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No freaking kidding. If DU wasn't shut down during the last 8 years, FR will be just fine. Remember, dissent was patriotic during the Bush years.
Not necessarily. Remember those same people that thought dissent was cool...now want to silence any voice that doesn't sound like their own. They want to punish the soldiers they used to champion.
Like I've been saying...different President...different set of rules.
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I think the reason they want to shut it down is because it speaks to more and more people each day and they are going to be losing the power in a few more years.
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I think the reason they want to shut it down is because it speaks to more and more people each day and they are going to be losing the power in a few more years.
Yup. And when they lose it, it will be in a big way.
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It's the 'birther' movement thats making them crazy - probably because its the equivalent of both 'selected not elected' and the 'troofer' movement rolled into one. There is a universal truth among all primitives - They can dish it out, but can't take it.
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No freaking kidding. If DU wasn't shut down during the last 8 years, FR will be just fine. Remember, dissent was patriotic during the Bush years.
Especially after MoPaul's comments got $kammer the once over from the Secret Service.
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It's the 'birther' movement thats making them crazy - probably because its the equivalent of both 'selected not elected' and the 'troofer' movement rolled into one. There is a universal truth among all primitives - They can dish it out, but can't take it.
Speaking of the Troofers. There has been much made of the fact that @25% of conservatives have doubts about 0Bama's birth certificate, but what isn't reported much is the fact that almost 1/3 of DimRats believed that the US was involved with 9-11.
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Speaking of the Troofers. There has been much made of the fact that @25% of conservatives have doubts about 0Bama's birth certificate, but what isn't reported much is the fact that almost 1/3 of DimRats believed that the US was involved with 9-11.
Maybe if I build his birth certificate out of chicken wire they'll be interested? :rofl:
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Actually, I kinda like the fact you can look up posts made directly to you. I have never had a problem with their format, but of course I can write html.
I think the FR layout is simple and easy to use.
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I think their main problem is that they worry more about what is being said about the so called "hero's" scares the sh*t out of them the most. :fuelfire:
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I think the FR layout is simple and easy to use.
It's obvious that lots of people like it, but it keeps me away.
I doubt that causes JimRob to lie awake at night.
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 12:29 PM
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14. Well, at least when we did it Skinner had the sense to delete the stuff
I don't get why it was hating America when we criticized Bush, but it's not hating America when they say this stuff about Obama.
Here's the difference, numbnuts:
We say, Obama, Congress and moonbats bad, the rest of America, overall pretty good.
You say, Bush bad, military bad, intelligence apparatus bad, American history bad, Founding Fathers bad, Capitalism bad, achievers bad, anyone who makes more money than you bad, Christianity bad, Christians bad, cops bad, the South bad, flyover country bad, all Republicans bad, guns and Second Amendment bad, traditional values bad, white people bad, individual responsibility bad, people who have children bad, protecting our borders bad, free speech bad, anyone who disagrees with you bad, people who hate us good, our enemies good, terrorists good, people traveling the world over proclaiming their shame over being American good. Are you getting it now?
There's nothing wrong with reasoned, honest criticism of the President or any other elected official. Making up shit though just for the sake of criticism, though, doesn't fly. You don't see us claiming the election was stolen or that Obama is part of some secret cabal or that he's snorting methamphetamine in the Oval Office or that Michelle is pregnant with Rahm Emanuel's love child or whatever the right wing equivalent of your drugged-out fantasies might be.
There was plenty of criticism of Bush by Republicans during his tenure. The Leftist meme that we were "nowhere to be found" is just bullshit. Likewise, we will criticize Obama when it's warranted. The difference is ours will be based on, you know, "evidence."
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They do have a horrible layout. I tried to join it, but just couldn't get past that. It was headachy. Why don't they do just a normal forum like we have?
Free Republic. Proof that Republicans can't be hip.
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I see that the Thorazine drips must be dry on the Island today...It's the first of the month, maybe the meds haven't been passed around yet?
I did my part today to make sure they are stocked back up for another month. :-) They always run out "early"
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They do have a horrible layout. I tried to join it, but just couldn't get past that. It was headachy. Why don't they do just a normal forum like we have?
FR and DU share a common problem - they are both based on horrible, outdated software. The only difference is DU periodically applies window dressing to theirs. I'm certain its because neither site wants to lose their history, so they both plod along.
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The problem isn't so much the software at FR but the amount of posts and people posting there that makes it hard to navigate.
DU on the other hand uses a format that is really irritating to try to follow until you get used to it and even then its still cumbersome. Then throw in all the nuked posts and some threads you have no idea what they are talking about.
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Can someone explain to me how the posts within a thread are numbered on DU? When reading from top to bottom, they don't have sequential numbers.
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Can someone explain to me how the posts within a thread are numbered on DU? When reading from top to bottom, they don't have sequential numbers.
The posts are numbered chronologically, from the first to the latest.
However, the posts can be attached to wherever the posting primitives wish to attach them, resulting in bonfires that burn like 1, 19, 2, 31, 4, 3. 11, 57, 29, and so on.
The primitives on Skins's island are not intelligent enough, nor courteous enough, to bother with guoting others, such as is done here and on freerepublic. Primitives are lazy, selfish, inconsiderate, and ignorant people; they don't care about anybody but themselves.
And so when my fellow alum Skins, along with the DLC (Democrat Leadership Council), first set up Skins's island, they dealt with it by allowing the primitives to post their comments immediately following the post they would quote, if they were bright enough and considerate enough to quote it.
And thus the odd array of numbers, 2, 14, 27, 11, 5, 9, and so on, because the numbers are assigned in chronological order.
What this means is that it makes it easier for the primitives to lie, to hide things, because one watches a bonfire from top to bottom.
It's a lot of work, and so generally it's not worth it, given that one already knows DUmmies lie, all the time DUmmies lie, but if one takes a bonfire and arranges it into exact numerical order, one sees the awesome extent to which the primitives lie, or try to deceive, or play games.
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That is a very stupid way to run a board, one of the worst I've seen. Thanks for the info.
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The problem isn't so much the software at FR but the amount of posts and people posting there that makes it hard to navigate.
DU on the other hand uses a format that is really irritating to try to follow until you get used to it and even then its still cumbersome. Then throw in all the nuked posts and some threads you have no idea what they are talking about.
The way it's set up, you get a "reply to post #" crap, I just can't follow. I like things in context, which to DUmmies, is like holy water thrown on a vampire!
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FR and DU share a common problem - they are both based on horrible, outdated software. The only difference is DU periodically applies window dressing to theirs. I'm certain its because neither site wants to lose their history, so they both plod along.
DU is the most horrible looking forum I have seen in my life
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DU is the most horrible looking forum I have seen in my life
Its the threading combined with the primitives inability to properly highlight and display quotes. So, on an active DU thread, one almost needs to reread the entire thing instead of just heading to the bottom like nearly every other forum.
DCForum+ is almost exclusively used by DU and other primitive islands nowadays. Even the creators of the software haven't updated it since 2006. --And IIRC, those updates were only to address severe security issues, not to add features or improvements.
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I like the uncluttered look of FR
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I like the uncluttered look of FR
That too.
freerepublic was the first political web-site on which I ever ventured, in the late 1990s, although I never registered until 2003.
I'm sentimentally attached to freerepublic, and even if they were to have the posts in upside-down backwards Japanese, I'd still like it.
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Its the threading combined with the primitives inability to properly highlight and display quotes. So, on an active DU thread, one almost needs to reread the entire thing instead of just heading to the bottom like nearly every other forum.
You explained it better to thundley4 than I did, sir, and thank you.
The format as used on Skins's island is because the primitives have lesser-developed brains to figure things out, and because even if a rare primitive can, he's too lazy to quote.
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I never had a problem with FR..it is quite plain but with the ping feature you can have specific conversation or just follow the comments.
DU is what it should be given the inhabitants....insane.
You have no idea what a post is responding to except by the listing and it could be post 60 on a page referring to post 4.
Since as Frank said the fools don`t quote you have to scroll up and down a page to find out what they are commenting on.
It is complete idiocy but since all they ever care about is what each of them has to say it works fine for them.
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.....all they ever care about is what each of them has to say it works fine for them.
Bingo.
Another one of the predominant characteristics of the primitives.
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Bingo.
Another one of the predominant characteristics of the primitives.
They also care about recs and unrecs. It seems that rants have become more commonplace from even the lesser primitives. They are looking for approval from the other inmates.
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They also care about recs and unrecs. It seems that rants have become more commonplace from even the lesser primitives. They are looking for approval from the other inmates.
I just checked, sir, as you aroused my suspicions.
Yep, this is posted in "General Discussion" rather than in the two or three forums more appropriate for the topic.
The uncool primitives trying to be hip, cool, trendy, with-it, seen hanging around the cool primitives, rather than hanging around with uncool primitives in uncool smaller forums.
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I think Los DUmmies forget that we have screen caps of all of their threats against the chimperor.
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Well, Frank, I'm over here now as well. I'm expanding my horizons. As you know I've been on FR for some years, and I find the layout fairly easy to navigate. The problem for me is finding old threads, even those I've posted to. Keywords help somewhat, but not always.
Now I'll have to get used to the format here. I figured out how to reply by hitting your post # then the reply button. Hope that works...
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Well, Frank, I'm over here now as well. I'm expanding my horizons. As you know I've been on FR for some years, and I find the layout fairly easy to navigate. The problem for me is finding old threads, even those I've posted to. Keywords help somewhat, but not always.
Now I'll have to get used to the format here. I figured out how to reply by hitting your post # then the reply button. Hope that works...
Welcome to the board. The easiest way to reply to a post is to hit the "quote" button, top right corner of the post you want to reply to.
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Well, Frank, I'm over here now as well. I'm expanding my horizons. As you know I've been on FR for some years, and I find the layout fairly easy to navigate. The problem for me is finding old threads, even those I've posted to. Keywords help somewhat, but not always.
Now I'll have to get used to the format here. I figured out how to reply by hitting your post # then the reply button. Hope that works...
Hey, welcome, sir!
We work this way--when one wishes to respond to a particular post, rather than clicking the "reply" button, one clicks on the "quote" buttom. The whole quote shows up automatically at the top of your response.
I'm very happy to see you here!
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Welcome indeed! Hope you enjoy our little place.....
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Welcome to the board. The easiest way to reply to a post is to hit the "quote" button, top right corner of the post you want to reply to.
Thanks for the welcome, and to Frank and DixieBelle for same. And thanks for the tip on replies. I'll be nosing around for sure...
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Thanks for the welcome, and to Frank and DixieBelle for same. And thanks for the tip on replies. I'll be nosing around for sure...
I think you'll recognize a few fellow FReepers here as well.
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I think you'll recognize a few fellow FReepers here as well.
I already have. Right now I'll have to leave as I have work to do. But I'll be back later.
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Well, Frank, I'm over here now as well. I'm expanding my horizons. As you know I've been on FR for some years, and I find the layout fairly easy to navigate. The problem for me is finding old threads, even those I've posted to. Keywords help somewhat, but not always.
Now I'll have to get used to the format here. I figured out how to reply by hitting your post # then the reply button. Hope that works...
Sometimes its better to use Google. Freerepublic.com+ whatever
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That too.
freerepublic was the first political web-site on which I ever ventured, in the late 1990s, although I never registered until 2003.
I'm sentimentally attached to freerepublic, and even if they were to have the posts in upside-down backwards Japanese, I'd still like it.
FR is where I met ya coach. You and several others I still communicate with. It was how I ventured over to CU and ultimately here. I still occasionally visit FR, but CC is my home now. I like the company we keep here with a few exceptions of which I'm sure most here are aware of.
FR can be tedious, especially when you want to post attachments or pics. It helps to understand html. Still it stands out in my opinion for replying to posts made directly to you. I do wish we had that capability here.
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I still read FR..but post mostly here or one other site...I have to watch what I type to close at FR...