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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on July 31, 2009, 03:50:26 PM
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-31-09 11:54 AM
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Egads! I made it to the next round of interviews.
Unfortunately, they wanted to see me TODAY to test out my uber computer skillz. Ha.
I have to be there in a 1/2 hour! Help! Wish me luck.
BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-31-09 02:27 PM
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7. Thanks. I'm back
I think it went ok. I had to use Word and Excel. I couldn't figure out how to make a graph with the data I put in Excel though. I could have eventually figured it out if I had time to play around with it. I guess I'll hear back from them.
Thank you for the well-wishes.
I say no.
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It's doubtful. Most companies aren't going to mess around with OJT with so many looking for work in this Oconomy.
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She needs to get on the phone with that scam artist Video Professor.
Try his product.
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She needs to get on the phone with that scam artist Video Professor.
Try his product.
The Video Professor dude is an actor and he admitted once to knowing nothing about computers
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Can't make a graph with Excel?
Damn, it takes like 3 clicks.
Must not know Excel.
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Can't make a graph with Excel?
Damn, it takes like 3 clicks.
Must not know Excel.
I have Office 2007 and have never used any of it.
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I have Office 2007 and have never used any of it.
But are you applying for a job where its use is required?
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I have Office 2007 and have never used any of it.
I am required to have MS Office 2007 at the online college. Its easy to use. I can make graphs with it. It had to be MS Office not OpenOffice, not MS Works, not Wordpad....
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I am required to have MS Office 2007 at the online college. Its easy to use. I can make graphs with it. It had to be MS Office not OpenOffice, not MS Works, not Wordpad....
Mine was "free' so I don't feel bad about not using it.
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It's doubtful. Most companies aren't going to mess around with OJT with so many looking for work in this Oconomy.
Honestly, though, this is why we have to have some compassion for people. I'd be one of those your speaking of and I have student loan to repay. I know the realities, but its not for lack of trying. Without some opportunity, I'm going to be stuck. I don't know her situation, but what's going on now was a chance I took when I took loans for my degree and it scared the hell out of me. It's a bit depressing to know the worst case scenario actually happened. And yes, I have work experience, but I have been home with children for many years. I don't have use for Excel most days and am working, painfully, to learn it(I hate it with a white hot passion..always have...but I have to learn it). Unfortunately, you don't ge ta lot of practice in 'classes' with it and I'm hard pressed to figure out how to work with a program in practical way when I can't find any practical application I can play around with it with.
If any of you guys have any suggestions, fire away, because I really hate that I feel like such an imbecile with this program. I, like, barenaked one could figure it out with a bit of time and my learning curve is usually pretty short when I start using it regularly, but I still need that little bit of time to acclimated to it. I think that's what she's talking about too. Again, any suggestions would be great since I hate not knowing it and I wish I could learn to at least have a tolerable working relationship with Excel 2007(LOL). :thatsright:
BTW, I'm not complaining too much. I want to learn it but I'm adaptable. I'm planning to get my certifications to be a group instructor at the gym in the meantime so I'll be working one way or the other and meh, I'll be getting paid to workout...woot! :-)
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Honestly, though, this is why we have to have some compassion for people. I'd be one of those your speaking of and I have student loan to repay. I know the realities, but its not for lack of trying. Without some opportunity, I'm going to be stuck. I don't know her situation, but what's going on now was a chance I took when I took loans for my degree and it scared the hell out of me. It's a bit depressing to know the worst case scenario actually happened. And yes, I have work experience, but I have been home with children for many years. I don't have use for Excel most days and am working, painfully, to learn it(I hate it with a white hot passion..always have...but I have to learn it). Unfortunately, you don't ge ta lot of practice in 'classes' with it and I'm hard pressed to figure out how to work with a program in practical way when I can't find any practical application I can play around with it with.
If any of you guys have any suggestions, fire away, because I really hate that I feel like such an imbecile with this program. I, like, barenaked one could figure it out with a bit of time and my learning curve is usually pretty short when I start using it regularly, but I still need that little bit of time to acclimated to it. I think that's what she's talking about too. Again, any suggestions would be great since I hate not knowing it and I wish I could learn to at least have a tolerable working relationship with Excel 2007(LOL). :thatsright:
BTW, I'm not complaining too much. I want to learn it but I'm adaptable. I'm planning to get my certifications to be a group instructor at the gym in the meantime so I'll be working one way or the other and meh, I'll be getting paid to workout...woot! :-)
Don't be intimidated. Not one person in a thousand who uses Excel can take advantage of all its capabilities, nor do they need to. It's a massive program, with more nooks and crannies of specialized information crunching features than anyone can use. The fundamentals - creating spreadsheets, sorting data, using formulas, selecting data to display in various ways, techniques for moving data around the spreadsheet, and graphs / charts - are actually very simple and intuitive. You can probably learn them on your own with a few hours of trial and error, or have any college student who's in a hard sciences curriculum get you started. Just don't feel overwhelmed that you need to learn the whole enchilada, because no one does, and you have no need to do that.
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Don't be intimidated. Not one person in a thousand who uses Excel can take advantage of all its capabilities, nor do they need to. It's a massive program, with more nooks and crannies of specialized information crunching features than anyone can use. The fundamentals - creating spreadsheets, sorting data, using formulas, selecting data to display in various ways, techniques for moving data around the spreadsheet, and graphs / charts - are actually very simple and intuitive. You can probably learn them on your own with a few hours of trial and error, or have any college student who's in a hard sciences curriculum get you started. Just don't feel overwhelmed that you need to learn the whole enchilada, because no one does, and you have no need to do that.
OH boy...I did a course already involving it and it is, unfortunately, not intuitive for me. I know with some practice I could eventually learn it, but I definitely need the repetition that coursework doesn't offer to do so. Because I'm such an infant with it, playing with it is hard for me to do because I just don't know how to use it if that makes sense. I mean, with word, I can make up mail merge things and various kinds of documents, newsletters, and just play around with it, but I feel like I'm really pushing it with excel to figure out things to do. I suppose I could try to make a spreadsheet of some of the things I'm sorting in the house like my scrapbook items? Perhaps I'll start there with what I've already learned.
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:tongue:
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OH boy...I did a course already involving it and it is, unfortunately, not intuitive for me. I know with some practice I could eventually learn it, but I definitely need the repetition that coursework doesn't offer to do so. Because I'm such an infant with it, playing with it is hard for me to do because I just don't know how to use it if that makes sense. I mean, with word, I can make up mail merge things and various kinds of documents, newsletters, and just play around with it, but I feel like I'm really pushing it with excel to figure out things to do. I suppose I could try to make a spreadsheet of some of the things I'm sorting in the house like my scrapbook items? Perhaps I'll start there with what I've already learned.
Free online tutorial for Excel. (http://www.baycongroup.com/el0.htm) I bookmarked this for when I want to take the time to learn some of it.
Here's a tutorial (http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC100620751033) from Microsoft.
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Free online tutorial for Excel. (http://www.baycongroup.com/el0.htm) I bookmarked this for when I want to take the time to learn some of it.
Here's a tutorial (http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC100620751033) from Microsoft.
Thanks, thundley. I really need the hands on repetative things like this.
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:tongue:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/special/dummy.jpg)
Tell me about it! I actually tried reading that thing but it was written as if you were a dummy even when not using excel. I can handle something with grown up words, thank you. :tongue: :-)
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The dummie has to take me off of her call list. I am sure working at a car warrenty call center she can do that.
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Mine was "free' so I don't feel bad about not using it.
As a U of P student MS Office can be bought for as little as $13....
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As a U of P student MS Office can be bought for as little as $13....
I think the student copies are only valid for 120 days. :p
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I think the student copies are only valid for 120 days. :p
oh well. I got the free version, the one where someone with a 3 user license gives me a registration number :hyper:
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I say no.
Ha! I wonder if it put down MS Office as one of its proficiencies; lied in other words. Making a graph is about as easy as can be with Excel.
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Ha! I wonder if it put down MS Office as one of its proficiencies; lied in other words. Making a graph is about as easy as can be with Excel.
See post 12 :-)
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Honestly, though, this is why we have to have some compassion for people. I'd be one of those your speaking of and I have student loan to repay. I know the realities, but its not for lack of trying. Without some opportunity, I'm going to be stuck. I don't know her situation, but what's going on now was a chance I took when I took loans for my degree and it scared the hell out of me. It's a bit depressing to know the worst case scenario actually happened. And yes, I have work experience, but I have been home with children for many years. I don't have use for Excel most days and am working, painfully, to learn it(I hate it with a white hot passion..always have...but I have to learn it). Unfortunately, you don't ge ta lot of practice in 'classes' with it and I'm hard pressed to figure out how to work with a program in practical way when I can't find any practical application I can play around with it with.
If any of you guys have any suggestions, fire away, because I really hate that I feel like such an imbecile with this program. I, like, barenaked one could figure it out with a bit of time and my learning curve is usually pretty short when I start using it regularly, but I still need that little bit of time to acclimated to it. I think that's what she's talking about too. Again, any suggestions would be great since I hate not knowing it and I wish I could learn to at least have a tolerable working relationship with Excel 2007(LOL). :thatsright:
BTW, I'm not complaining too much. I want to learn it but I'm adaptable. I'm planning to get my certifications to be a group instructor at the gym in the meantime so I'll be working one way or the other and meh, I'll be getting paid to workout...woot! :-)
Try gcflearnfree.org.
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I had plenty of experience in Excel while working inventory control. When I started I only knew the basics. By the time I left, I could program my own formulas. The online tutorials help a bunch! There are also quite a few sites devoted to some of the hidden macros. I used to get weekly emails with all kinds of "tricks" and short cuts you could use. Look around for something like that and join a forum. They're great for when you get stuck. You wont believe how many gurus are out there.
I'm pretty sure the internet tutorials can teach you more than you ever need to know. Once you get the basics down, it pretty much takes the mystery out of it. It actually became like a computer game to me. Even the IT guys were having me design shit for them.
You can even design forms like are being used in this blog with Excel!
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I had plenty of experience in Excel while working inventory control. When I started I only knew the basics. By the time I left, I could program my own formulas. The online tutorials help a bunch! There are also quite a few sites devoted to some of the hidden macros. I used to get weekly emails with all kinds of "tricks" and short cuts you could use. Look around for something like that and join a forum. They're great for when you get stuck. You wont believe how many gurus are out there.
I'm pretty sure the internet tutorials can teach you more than you ever need to know. Once you get the basics down, it pretty much takes the mystery out of it. It actually became like a computer game to me. Even the IT guys were having me design shit for them.
You can even design forms like are being used in this blog with Excel!
Thanks for everyone's help. I really appreciate it. See, I don't like computer games really, of any kind, so I really don't find much to do with them 'fun'. lol I'll just have to grunt my way through it. It's just one of those things that I will just learn to use even if I don't like it, but that's ok. We all have those kinds of things and if I want to ever use the skills I DO have, I need to be able to learn the tools to make those skills applicable practically.
Again, thanks folks, for the ribbing too...*cough* thundley *cough*. :-)
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Thanks for everyone's help. I really appreciate it. See, I don't like computer games really, of any kind, so I really don't find much to do with them 'fun'. lol I'll just have to grunt my way through it. It's just one of those things that I will just learn to use even if I don't like it, but that's ok. We all have those kinds of things and if I want to ever use the skills I DO have, I need to be able to learn the tools to make those skills applicable practically.
Again, thanks folks, for the ribbing too...*cough* thundley *cough*. :-)
I know whacha mean!!! I hate work period! I'd rather be fishin'! Seems I can't get away from it though. LOL
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jtyangel, I use Excel about 80% of my day. What you could do to give yourself practice is put your household financial stuff on it. Recreate your checkbook on it, putting in the plus and minus formulas. You could also build a spreadsheet, working off of receipts, to see where your money is going. Give each item a classification, like Food, Clothing, Entertainment, Toiletries, etc. in a column and then sort them on that. Add in a sub-total.
You are always welcome to PM me if you get stuck.
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I have Office 2007 and have never used any of it.
I feel dated.
I'm still using Word 2000, but the only thing I use it for is to print letters and envelopes....
I use Intuit Quickbooks for invoices and statements....
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Don't be intimidated. Not one person in a thousand who uses Excel can take advantage of all its capabilities, nor do they need to. It's a massive program, with more nooks and crannies of specialized information crunching features than anyone can use. The fundamentals - creating spreadsheets, sorting data, using formulas, selecting data to display in various ways, techniques for moving data around the spreadsheet, and graphs / charts - are actually very simple and intuitive. You can probably learn them on your own with a few hours of trial and error, or have any college student who's in a hard sciences curriculum get you started. Just don't feel overwhelmed that you need to learn the whole enchilada, because no one does, and you have no need to do that.
My little brother knows and uses Excel a GREAT deal (he's the "computer guru" for the local county government), and I doubt even he knows all there is to know about Excel....