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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: RobJohnson on July 26, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
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kpete (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-25-09 10:42 PM
Original message
Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming Bush tried to hide
Source: The Guardian
Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming Bush tried to hide
Photos from US spy satellites declassified by the Obama White House provide the first graphic images of how the polar ice sheets are retreating in the summer. The effects on the world's weather, environments and wildlife could be devastating
Satellite images of polar ice sheets taken in July 2006 and July 2007 showing the retreating ice during the summer. Photograph: Public Domain
Graphic images that reveal the devastating impact of global warming in the Arctic have been released by the US military. The photographs, taken by spy satellites over the past decade, confirm that in recent years vast areas in high latitudes have lost their ice cover in summer months.
The pictures, kept secret by Washington during the presidency of George W Bush, were declassified by the White House last week. President Barack Obama is currently trying to galvanise Congress and the American public to take action to halt catastrophic climate change caused by rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
One particularly striking set of images - selected from the 1,000 photographs released - includes views of the Alaskan port of Barrow. One, taken in July 2006, shows sea ice still nestling close to the shore. A second image shows that by the following July the coastal waters were entirely ice-free.
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/26/clima...
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Sparky 1 (57 posts) Sat Jul-25-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Darn them! It was criminal to hide evidence that affects us all. >;(
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-26-09 07:28 AM
Response to Reply #10
23. True, but it's outrageous that he classified photos of Earth, ffs. Wonder what
remains classified and what this administration will classify.
I thought I was headed to third party, thinking maybe Nader had the right idea. Now, I think I may be heading toward anarchy.
Tafiti (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-26-09 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #28
39. "What global warming?"
See, this is why I advocate use of the term "Climate Disruption" in lieu of "global warming." It's a much more accurate description in terms of consequences, as opposed to global warming, which speaks to the cause. It's a shame that so many people conflate the two - I hear the same type of denial all the time (or used to when I lived in the Midwest).
Climate Disruption :mental: :mental: :mental:
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-26-09 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
31. Bush may turn out to be
the most efficient mass murderer of all time.
Beating Stalin who had to work at it.
:bs:
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When do the impeachment hearings start?
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When do the impeachment hearings start?
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
I just want to know what President Obama is going to do to correct the cover up! :evillaugh:
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chimpyisstillsatan (201 posts) Sun Jul-26-09 01:00 PM
Response to Original message
41. Remember Dan Rather?
This may be Truth revealed, but this could easily be a photoshop scam. Be careful using this as evidence, it could be a plant to discredit the entire argument.
<DUmmie mode> FREEPER!
Gman (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-26-09 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. You're kidding, right?
Looks like pretty hard evidence. Rather's reporting on Bush's NG record was 100% accurate. The problem with Rather's reporting was that the story was in fact 100% accurate. Are you implying that the records Rather reported on were not accurate? Are you implying that Bush served honorably in the NG? That he never went AWOL? What's your point?
Oh and how is the "reality (free) based" community? :rotf: :lmao:
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chimpyisstillsatan
OK, whose mole is that? :-)
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What about that recent government evidence/report that climate change is bogus that Obama squelched?
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I woonder what will happen to their little brains when they see photos from 2008, 2009, 2010, or whatever that show wide variation from year to year...
Well, realistically, I know they will never look again once they have two data points that appear to go the right way for their argument, and the Obama administration is full of both equally stupid twits who think the same way and manipulative trolls who know exactly which buttons to push on the twits.
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-26-09 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
31. Bush may turn out to be
the most efficient mass murderer of all time.
Beating Stalin who had to work at it.
Jeez, compared to Mao, Stalin was a piker.
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Gman (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-26-09 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. You're kidding, right?
Looks like pretty hard evidence. Rather's reporting on Bush's NG record was 100% accurate. The problem with Rather's reporting was that the story was in fact 100% accurate. Are you implying that the records Rather reported on were not accurate? Are you implying that Bush served honorably in the NG? That he never went AWOL? What's your point?
Yep...fake but accurate. :whatever:
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When do the impeachment hearings start?
24 business hours.
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Satellite images of polar ice sheets taken in July 2006 and July 2007 showing the retreating ice during the summer.
I think I found the problem....
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Notice they don't bring up the last 2 years where the global ice sheets have been growing!
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Jeez, compared to Mao, Stalin was a piker.
I suppose Clintoon is completely innocent for the genocide in Somalia, right?
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I think I found the problem....
Seriously, such a Duh moment for the DUmmies. If the arctic did not warm during the summer, then life for the creatures up there they are oh so concerned about would be unsustainable. The Arctic Tundra warms and blossom during the spring and summer, ice melts, life is wonderful, then the ice grows again once cold weather hits. This is what is supposed to happen! If the ice did not shrink, then many animals would starve to death, people would be miserable, and it would be indicative (presuming that it lasted for more than a year or so) that another ice age may be beginning.
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You know... I can pull satellite images from all over the world, including polar ice caps, at any time of the year. Not once in the 8 years I've had this capability have I ever been told that I was not allowed to look at the ice caps. :whatever:
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I wonder what kind of crazy theory the come up with when the ice floes expand in the winter time?
:whatever:
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My brother does the Artic missions. He just said the other day that the scientists that he flies there all have stated the same thing -- man has absolutely nothing to do with the changes the earth goes through.
Common sense would kind of scream that at you everytime one goes to the ocean -- you think man can control or affect that incredible force of nature? Of course not.
:whatever:
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My brother does the Artic missions. He just said the other day that the scientists that he flies there all have stated the same thing -- man has absolutely nothing to do with the changes the earth goes through.
Common sense would kind of scream that at you everytime one goes to the ocean -- you think man can control or affect that incredible force of nature? Of course not.
:whatever:
The problem is, in refusing to acknowledge God, the primitives have made dirty little filthy pestilential gods of themselves, thinking they can alter the Way Things Are.
Yeah, right.
Anyone who has ever been eyewitness to a 15-minute thunderstorm in the Sandhills of Nebraska, during which time more electrical power is unleashed than millions of hydrogen bombs (fortunately, 99.999999.....% of it stays up in the air, though), has a pretty good notion of Nature versus Man.
Nature, or God, always wins, so one might as well accept it, adapt to it, and move on.
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Using flashearth and google earth you can compare at least 4 different satalite images and a number of different years and seasons. Seems to me, the ice is growing. Hardly "secret", is it.
Idiocy upon idiocy.
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try Ikonos imagery.
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Notice they don't bring up the last 2 years where the global ice sheets have been growing!
That is all a part of the Climate Disruption. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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What a bunch of retards. I wonder what the ice sheets would look like if you look at images from the last 10 years at the same approx date.
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Yep...fake but accurate. :whatever:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-27-09 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #63
69. The stupid Freepers simply cannot get the concept of
a rise in the average global temperature. Just can't get it. Too stupid, I guess.
And don't even start trying to explain that the ice cores positively demonstrate that at no time in the last 40,000 years has the average global temperature risen so much in so short a time span.
llmart (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-27-09 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #69
82. You're missing the point with regard to Freepers.......
The bottom line with them is that they don't care about anything that may happen in the future as long as they aren't affected by it. They figure they'll be dead when the s*** hits the fan. They just don't care about anyone but themselves.
:evillaugh:
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Global warming is undeniable and I have proof..........ice cubes melt in my tea.
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I wish our friend TT would tell us what that average global temperature is supposed to be. It would really help my outrage. :rofl:
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I just did a global warming experiment. I placed one ice cube in a glass of water. (actually, it was a leftover from a glass of tea) I put one fire ant on the ice cube. I placed it in the sunshine. It melted and the fire ant drowned..... the fire ant started swimming so I had to hold him down with my finger but he drowned.....or maybe I smashed against the side of the glass.....doesn't matter, he's dead as any of the drowned polar bears...... False but accurate data.
I would have used rabbit wire and cement blocks but they wouldn't float.
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Damn, you're good, sir.
Admirable.
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I would have used rabbit wire and cement blocks but they wouldn't float.
Hey, don't throw in the towel on that time-tested methodology yet, you can still use it to demonstrate the horrible consequences that will ensure when the coastal cities flood due to rising oceans!
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Hey, don't throw in the towel on that time-tested methodology yet, you can still use it to demonstrate the horrible consequences that will ensure when the coastal cities flood due to rising oceans!
Oh yeah, concrete buildings don't float....I think I can prove that.
Give me a few days, I'm outta chicken wire.
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That is all a part of the Climate Disruption. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
I guess Climate Disruption is the reason for having over 3000 record LOW temperatures set this year for July....
But I'm just a stupid freeper/conservative, what do I know.... :naughty:
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I guess Climate Disruption is the reason for having over 3000 record LOW temperatures set this year for July....
But I'm just a stupid freeper/conservative, what do I know.... :naughty:
That is EXACTLY what the Climate Thought Police will say if you ask them to explain why the 'Hockey stick' isn't happening and temperatures aren't rising accordingly.
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This is all well and good but how do we stop man-made continental drift?
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This is all well and good but how do we stop man-made continental drift?
Everyone must dig at least 12 post holes on their property and insert a government certified post 3 feet in the ground. This will slow the drift down and buy time to figure out how to stop it all together. Call your congressman now.
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Everyone must dig at least 12 post holes on their property and insert a government certified post 3 feet in the ground. This will slow the drift down and buy time to figure out how to stop it all together. Call your congressman now.
:rotf: